This is officially the longest analysis video I've done on the channel, even longer than both Bianca ones combined! I've had the idea for this sitting around in my head since 2019, and I felt now was the perfect time to get it done!
It was a pleasure to help work on this with you and finally get it out there! I remember the days when we had no idea what to say about him for an analysis video, and now with this video, I think it sums everything up perfectly!
I'm still laughing at that weird drone of spyro they made. Also, I kinda wished that i could've been able to get myself one of those spyro pool rings, those were actually pretty amazing, ngl.
The amount of people who seem to think that Spyro was "ruined" in reignited will never not be hysterical to me. I can't really see anything wrong or "inferior" about his portrayal in Reingited, and, if I may be Frank - which I can't because that's not my name - I actually like his Reingited portrayal more than the original.
From Spyro the Dragon to Spyro 2: Ripto's Rage, I always thought that a year or two has past when I heard Spyro's voice sounding older in the second game. In a way, Carlos being the first to voice Spyro actually works well. :)
For those curious, I was the one who recorded that Tom Kenny shout out. Long story short, I went to one of his concerts at the LA Farmer's Market back in 2019, and I got him and Carlos Alazraqui to record separate shout-outs for Miharu after the show. So I'm very glad to finally see this used in a video!
Spyro is such amazing and dear mascot to me. His color purple, his short size and sassy attitude. And the reignited trilogy brought all to life. However, after seeing this analysis, it kinda hit me that they never give him much a of character depth, but I'm okay with simplicity as long it doesn't get too derailed.
Personally i like the Reignited spyro more, somehow he captures the way i viewed him as a child, i always focused on the enthusiastic aspect when i was little.
@@MiharuTheFox Yooo you know I always Loved Ripto as much as you do, he’s always been my favorite angry shortie 🧡 I’m so happy he’s finally getting some recognition in Crash Team Rumble!
Lets not forget that the experience of the voice actor from then to now can show when they are getting the feel of the character being portrayed. Overall I can agree there are some differences between classic and reignited. A well done analysis
Thank you so much for addressing this, Miharu. As being a Spyro fan since the late 90's (97 Spyro was my first PSX game, in actuality), it was the cocky punkass personality that made me come to love Spyro at only seven years-old. Through Carlos' delivery of certain lines, I had gotten the impression that Spyro was young and just starting out on his first adventure, which he was.
One detail I think helps make a difference between both versions of Spyro 2 is Ripto's introduction. In the original, he's largely treated as nuisance that Elora just tells Zoe to distract without much effort. In the remake, Ripto tries to attack Spyro and Zoe steps in on her own accord and stops him, with her acting making quite clear she's TERRIFIED and endangering herself doing so. When Zoe comes back, Spyro can be seen shooting a protective look at Ripto, like "Okay, I get what YOU'RE all about, jerk". I feel like this helps reasons why Spyro seems a bit more motivated in the remake, since he knows from the get go that Ripto is a bully and a threat that these guys are struggling to repel.
Overall, reignited for me brought how my imagination remembered spyro into reality however seeing the side by side I do see the difference in personality, I wouldn't say it harms the character more of the slightest variation that both grows the depth of Spyros character in some ways(for the returning fans who could appreciate some evolution) but also aligning the personality to a more modern take of what the 90's personality was for new fans
I kind of like spyro as a more optimistic character I mean that’s what a titular character is supposed to act like before he or she meets the dangers of the adventure
OMG SPYRO!! :DDDD 💜💜💜 I understand you’re viewpoint. However, from my point of view, I prefer Spyro in Reignited over the originals. He seems the most real to me in Reignited in other areas that I just bound to more. He’s a lot more likable and I’d honestly be really upset if they change him to be more mean. Spyro’s a hero, and he’s meant for children. Times are different now, and I don’t think children would be drawn into a hero with too much sass. Spyro in Reignited has the perfect blend of sass and heroism, and that’s the Spyro I’ve grown attached to. But at the end of the day, interpretations of our amazing purple boi are subjective to us, and that’s why we all love Spyro. Make sense? Overall, nice video and THANK YOU SO MUCH for doing a Spyro character analysis! He’s my favorite organism in all of fiction, nonfiction, and undiscovered fiction!!! 💜💜💜
Of who Spyro is in a nutshell, he's Bart Simpson in a lot of ways, you can really tell with the more mischievous side of him to when he actually cares I think if Spyro Reignited leaned towards more of a halfway mark of being Sarcastic and Sassy to being caring and determined I think Reignited could've been a better product all around, I do think that TFB when working on Spyro 4 should go back to the drawing board for Spyro and the rest of the crew of how to handle them going forward, much like how Insomniac handled going from Ratchet and Clank's 2016 Reimagining to Rift Apart where focused heavily on leaning towards that classic era of Ratchet while having some nods toward the 2016 game, so yeah a new Spyro game that leans heavily from the classic era of games while nodding towards reignited is the best option they got for Spyro 4.
While I do like the Reignited version for some of the changes that it brings, you're right that there's just a lot that the original trilogy had to offer that really got lost in the remake. The real feeling that the first game was this spitfire trouble-maker kid making a name for himself and making mistakes along the way, but open with his thoughts and emotions. From the sympathetic daredevil in the original, to growing a bit, but dealing with the unfortunate situation of the second game but growing into it, to the more confident version in the 3rd game, actively working with the mystery of the world. All of it lines up with what you were talking about, and it's a sentiment that I share in that regard. It's a progression of the character that gets lost in the remake, I feel. It feels less like it's occurring over the course of several years and more like they're happening near back to back in sequence in regards to chronology of the series. That's more the impression that I get with the two. It's kind of the reason why I still prefer the original trilogy when I go back to play it on a trilogy binge. Just something about it that keeps bringing me back to it. I'll still play Reignited, but will more likely keep going back to the originals, even if I'm grateful for Reignited to have happened.
I would argue that the idea of voice delivery making lines different is because Tom Kenny sees a different character than what others see. He wants Spyro to evolve into his own interpretation than Carlos' performance.
In fact about Spyros voice, i found that really helpfull when i was thinking about Spyros age throught the games, something like this Spyro 1: 8 Spyro 2: 11 Spyro 3 to Hero 12 to 13 Spyro new beg: 14 Spyro night: 15 Spyro Dawn D: 18
@@MiharuTheFox hmm maybe but i also figures the legend series as some kind of the same story told from a different point of view, soemthing wich happends with Zeldas games and lore
@@MiharuTheFoxThat's true. I see TLOS Spyro, and by story-driven extension, Cynder, as around 13 in ANB/TEN, and 16 in DOTD. I also see Skylanders Spyro is around 18, as Sonic Boom, one of the 4 original Air Skylanders, is around Spyro's size, and she already has children.
The lead concept artist of TLoS, Jared Pullen said his personal headcanon for Spyro's age in The Legend of Spyro is 12 or 13 in A New Beginning/The Eternal Night and 15 or 16 in Dawn of the Dragon. And there's apparently old Wendy's Spyro toys for The Eternal Night that listed Spyro's age as 12, which I didn't know until recently. Based on those, I've been saying 12 for ANB/TEN and 15 for DotD, but none of it is 100% confirmed canon, so no interpretation is wrong. 😌 As for Classic Spyro, the OG was designed to be something of a bratty 8 or 10 year old for the first game, so I've always went with 10 in Spyro The Dragon, 11 in Ripto's Rage/Gateway to Glimmer, and 12 in Year of the Dragon. IDK if ReIgnited is still going for that young feel or if he's in his 20's (12 years older for each installment?) and still smol, LOL.
I wanna start saying that thumbnail is lit. It presents the video at how it's gonna be and I love it. And a SHOUTOUT from Mr. Tom Kenny himself? AWESOME! Finally! A character analisis about the main protagonist! Crazy, huh? You know? I haven't noticed that Spyro in fact sounded nasally in the first game until years later. When I first played Spyro, I loved his snarky, bratty, braggy but daring and cool personality, just like any kid from the 90's would. It looks kinda resembling to Bart Simpson. And overall I enjoyed him personality, he was that 90's cool kid behavior that every kid wanted to be. In Reignited, I noticed how most of the dialogue was softened/altered in order to make Spyro sound much less bratty and snarky, and much more heroic and symphatetic, and actually I loved that personality. I see why, nowadays when you make a kid hero, you want him to be a good example and an inspiration for the others, instead of something similar to a jerk. The original Spyro was returning after a long time so they wanted to give him a fresh comeback, and I think they did it well, Tom Kenny's 2018 voice shows how much he got to understand Spyro as a character and how he wants him to be seen by the world. I don't think any of Spyro's voices did less to Spyro, they all did his best into portraying the little purple hero that saves the world and wants to chill. Also I wanna mention about how he as a character is barely a bystander as you mentioned. The fact that the story mostly is him saving the world, it works in gameplay wise, but when we start asking about him and his story and role, there's where things get interesting. I always wanted Spyro to have a connection to the story, such as in The Legend of Spyro where he is part of a prophecy and the key of salvation. It's about make him stand with the plot, I would like to see that. At the end, he is still what he ever was, Spyro, the dragon. Amazing video! Some of my favorite topics is to indulge into a character's differences between version, and here it was about Spyro's personality. In all honestly, both are good, it shows a different portray of him according to the era he was and is, but still retains most of his characteristics. Indeed an informative video that helps to understand him better. Superb!
if spyro was an kid, then Ratchet (from Ratchet and Clank) was the teenager, an snarky sarcastisc guy that had an good hearth, but can be sellfish sometimes ( like the most obvious version, the 2002 og, but he was kinda sellfish to clank in tools of destruction), but hes imperfections made him more, you know, human and relatable....... too bad that the 2016 game doesnt have any of that (also on a side note, Clank also changed in the second game, he is alot more passive agressive in some scenes).
@@evelinelima4243According to the Jak X racing, the Ratchet from Deadlocked option in the character selection screen; Ratchet was 18 around the time of Deadlocked.
I admit I miss petulant Spyro in the original 1. Carlos' Spyro sounded more insecure and tempremental, like this was his first real adventure after a ton of screw ups as the bumbling kid of the group ("Not that YOU ever get into trouble Spyro", another character building quote they completely changed the delivery of). Kind of this shortened down 'Thomas the Tank Engine' type arc I guess where the overeager brat finally saves the day and proves himself. It lined up nicely with all his allies in later games like Hunter and Bianca as well, all insecure kids trying to put on a swanky front (with Ripto his character foil as a villain with all his worst qualities intensified). All three adventures felt like they tied into this small arc Spyro had as a hero. It's still there a LITTLE in Reignited, but not nearly as evident, only really by virtue that the dialogue is the same. I feel like Reignited 2 does Spyro quite well, since that was alreeady the more matured Spyro but the animations and Tom's acting give him more enthusiasm (or in areas frustration due to being thrown into the game). This is full on altruistic Spyro, but it was meant to be in the first place. Spyro 3 is a bit of a downgrade though, I feel like Tom nailed his smartass side better in the original. I do like the animations showing his friendlier side though, especially around Hunter and the hatchlings in the final ending. He doesn't seem as apathetic here as in the original sequels. I feel like the biggest problem with Toys For Bob's versions is that they tend to stick to only one side of a character, one that did exist before, but often what makes them interesting and dynamic is its a dual layer with another personality trait. Again an insecure frustrated character playing tough guy, or a goofball that has a hidden crafty/badass side, or a pompous intellectual that makes really dumb mistakes. Toys For Bob's interpretations tend to just be one or the other, flanderizing them into less compelling archetypes. Their take on Crash had a similar vibe with me. The simple laid back goofball who yet somehow outwits the uptight and thin skinned intellectuals was too much for them. Now he's just the comic relief dimwit around tons of flawlessly smart characters. These characters were always fairly simple archetypes, but the full use of all their characteristics made them likeable, TFB can't even use TWO and as a result their world and character building seems more...phony. And in fairness they kept the 'cruelty to sheep' gags. "Jerkass Spyro" still exists even with the softening up. :P
While I wasn't really bothered by the change in the newer remaster it can be felt.. I think they should take a look at Sonic the Hedgehog in some of his newer stuff. Learn from that, and use it towards farther developing our boy Spyro. Sonic still has that whole sass, but care free 90's attituded feel to him a lot, and I think it can still be captured for Spyro as well. How ever, I honestly think if they have more time to work on a newer game than they got for Reignited, that perhaps things would feel more smooth and natural interaction/dialogs wise.. Or Well.. I hope that would be the case.
Personally, I would say I like the original portrayal of Spyro's character better -- he always came across to me as being somewhat overconfident and slightly immature, almost like he's not doing his heroics because he wants to, but because he feels he has to. In the first game, he rescues the other dragons because they're his kin, and takes out Gnasty Gnorc as a way to get revenge on him for what he did to his species; again, it feels less like he wants to do it, but that he feels he has to because he's the only one that can step up to the challenge. It's the same kind of thing in Ripto's Rage -- he was brought to Avalar by an outside force, he doesn't WANT to be there, and given that it's implied that the game takes place not long after the first, he is most likely still unwinding after having defeated Gnasty Gnorc, but whichever way you choose to look at it, I think it's understandable that he doesn't want to be in Avalar if he doesn't have to, and the rest of the cast knows it, which is why they make the effort to let him have access to Dragon Shores as a way to thank him for all he did for them, as can be seen in the cutscence after beating Gulp. That said, Spyro still comes to respect his companions, especially Hunter and Elora, and I feel the third game shows this well, particularly with Hunter, which I think is why he's offput by him falling for Bianca: again, Spyro is rather immature, and I personally believe that his portrayal in the original games making him snarkier and less eager to jump to the aid of others because of said immaturity is more believable, especially since he's still so young. That said, I get why they wanted to make him friendlier in the Reignited Trilogy: he's an ironic mascot and the hero of the games he appears in, so they wanted to make him feel nicer and more heroic to try to make him more appealing and a better role model for young impressionable kids that pick up the game -- the problem is that it comes at the expense of making him feel less relatable -- most kids wouldn't want to be thrust into a position were they have to be the ones to save people, in no small part because that's a lot of work and responsibility to have for one so young.
The more I come back to this video, I can't help but feel grateful that there was so much depth and research that went into this Spyro analysis video. It's really one of your best analysis videos, Miharu. The highlighted comparisons between OG and Reignited successfully show Spyro in two different lights. Personally, I'm biased toward preferring his OG personality portrayal over RI, but that's just my two cents, aha xD. Still, I think RI played a huge role in making Spyro relevant today, regardless of my preference lol (for instance, his updated model and render are gorgeous.) No, seriously, fantastic job with the video 💜🐲
People like Tom Kenny who happily give shout outs like he did are the best. I always like these analysis videos, they scratch a particular itch in my brain that has this need to compare everything. The comparison of voice inflection and tone are why I prefer Clancy Brown's Dr. Cortex from Lex Lang's portrayal in the N. Sane Trilogy. Lex did stellar work in Twinsanity so he's not bad by any means, the writing, character acting and voice direction just seems to be the main complaints for the modern works, it seems. It's a testament to the original portrayals that they can still be deemed superior even after all this time and remaking.
I feel like it's that deal I mentioned before. Clancy Brown could effortlessly combine 'serious and sinister' Cortex with 'hammy and comical' Cortex while it feels like with N Sane Trilogy they go full on with either one or the other with Lex Lang, making his performance feel more limited. The remakes and new games for both Crash and Spyro feel like they tend to only go for one personality trait with the characters making them feel more one dimensional.
@@e-122psi3I would agree. I wonder if it was the limitations of the time that made all involved more focused on a more thought out performance, or if that level of thought just isn't put into it as much anymore. I wonder which it might be, if either.
I know that some people don't like Spyro's slight personality change, or the fact that the level design is altered from the original PS1 games. But man... I consider the Reignited Trilogy to be a miracle. Spyro's new design and animations are like a work of art. The levels so beautiful now, too. There are times when I'm afraid I'll wake up one day and discover that it was all a dream and the Reignited Trilogy never really happened. I love that little purple boi.
This helps me realize some reasons why some lines feel off in Reignited, not bad, just... a bit too clean for what I expect from spyro. Not to say there weren't flaws before, and nostalgia is a factor, certainly but, I generally prefer the original voice acting for spyro, as well as hunter and even some npcs. Both are valid experiences but I'll still play the original sometimes, which I don't feel the need to do for the N'sane trilogy as a similar example, which captures the original feel and I consider more of a definitive upgrade. But that's just me.
*While it never hurts to have a healthy taste of Memory Lane in things and characters, I think having a beautiful blend of naturalistic truth pureheartedness and vibrant hope helps balance with the heroic spunk, inique intelligence, and winsome charm of characters, especially for Spyro the Dragon in the modern era!* *Thanks for the new video, **#MiharuTheFox**!* ;D *Here's hoping we get more of Spyro 's better angels to overcome his inner demons in future video game sequels like Spyro 4 and beyond!* ;D 😇
Coming back after a while not keeping up with your videos I love you included Shantae in your video intro. I miss Elora but Shantae makes a fine replacement. :) Also I kinda miss Carlos' interpretation of Spyro, even if Tom's portrayal has become alot more iconic. It would have been awesome if later TFB included a DLC voice pack that re-recorded all of Spyro's lines with Carlos reprising the role - So you could choose your preferred Spyro between him and Tom.
One bit of 'savage' Spyro remaining I notice no one talks about, in Spyro 3, he not only objects to helping Bianca from the monster, but in the remake, when it actually swallows her whole, while Hunter looks horrified, Spyro just has a totally vacant smile. Basically "Welp, that's the end of that then." :P I definitely feel like Spyro 3 gave him a bit more of his attitude back, like maybe they thought Spyro 2 softened him up a bit too much.
9:26 Nervous, you say? I think the way he said "Battle" sounds like Spyro barely sees these boss fights as an actual challenge. Which is accurate; Jacques doesn't put much of a fight.
Which is why I brought up that it could be interpreted that way as well. But seeing as this is the only boss he asks for advice about, coupled with the face he makes, I thought it a notable interaction to mention.
Great video, Miharu! 😁 Personally, I like Spyro's ReIgnited interpretation more overall (though I do still love the original takes and voices too). I grew up with The Legend of Spyro before the Insomniac trilogy, so I'm biased. Spyro feels like more of his own character in ReIgnited to me, and I think it's because OG Classic Spyro having that 90's snark makes him too similar to Sonic the Hedgehog in my interpretation of their characters. Each time his characterization got lighter-hearted (Between 1 and 2, and then the remake), it just felt like it fit more. I do agree that his sarcastic takes can be interesting and that they sometimes fit better (rescuing Jed being a good example) and it's totally okay that he's still got the cocky side of him for his achievements and belief in himself, but I like that he doesn't feel as mean-spirited and dismissive when he talks to the elder dragons too. That said, I want to see a good blend of sarcastic banter and playful enthusiasm, and I think ReIgnited is a step in the right direction. I'm looking forward to seeing how they might expand his personality in the possible Spyro 4. 😌😊
Great analysis. And, yeah, I think that, nowadays, writers seem to fear a hero that doesn't act up the ideals of hero. A hero must be someone always someone pure-hearted, nice to everyone. And while there's nothing wrong with that, the problem is that they are turning characters that were knew to be arrogant, snarky and nasty with their enemies. What happened with Spyro, happened with Ratchet of Ratchet & Clank, since when the Movie/game came out, he's like a different character from the one we know and love.
Well, Ratchet naturally grew up throughout the series; he was somewhat of a cocky teen in the Classic Trilogy, and a young Adult in the Future Trilogy, where a lot of revelations had changed his personality from a cocky attitude to a more serious attitude. By Rift Apart, he's already matured as a slightly older Adult.
All around I think you perfectly summarise not only that old Spyro's acting compared to the reignited acting is not only better for the setting but almost all of the characters sound much better in the old games. Fun fact: In the reignited Trilogy you have the option to changed the Ost in the game to the original versions. That kinda thing makes me wish they had a similar option for the voicing acting
This was an interesting comparison to see side by side Miharu! For me, I really enjoy both versions of Spyro and think they're both valid. I don't consider Reignited to be a "replacement" for the original trilogy, but a worthwhile reimagining. I think both interpretations of Spyro explore plenty about the character, and I just can't bring myself to ever say "there can only be one REAL Spyro personality!" I also think Spyro's enthusiastic nature in Reignited absolutely represents the times we currently live in. At least, to me, he kinda represents what I was personally feeling when Reignited happened. Joy, enthusiasm, and a desire to go on memorably magical adventures and flame bad guy butt! Cause there is no game like Spyro at all! I also have always seen Spyro to be very setting and gameplay driven in its narratives. Much like Crash Bandicoot, Spyro is a character whom I feel his personality resonates most as I play through the game and interacting with these magical worlds.
Characters nowadays might be a bit too apologetic for my tastes. There's nothing wrong with making a character who's a bit selfish, a little abrasive, maybe slightly jaded, and yet still has a heart of gold.
Imo the difference between Tom's & Carlos's performance of Spyro is much more noticeable in the 1st game, while Tom's performance in 2 & 3 of both the orignals & Reignited was more or less the same. In the 1st game, Spyro was edgier and cockier so Carlos's performance was perfect for that. By Spyro 2, Spyro's was kinda reluctant to waste his vacation time to stop a bad guy so he was more mellowed out & more reserved so I'm used to Tom's interpretation of that Spyro who felt like he grew up a bit from his first adventure.
I do think of Beast Makers in the comparison between the OG Spyro and the New Spyro. In the old version when he's talking to the Beast Makers dragons and their state of home he's much more reluctant to side with a 'Swamp' thinking it personally gross (Ironic that Legend Spyro gets raised in One.) but he still helps them anyway cause 'hey I need to help these guys if it means I get to get Gnasty Gnorc!' as apposed to the new version where he's just happy to help regardless. When he says "I'm sure it was." in response to "It was beautiful" he sounds like he's biting back his nausea in OG when in the new version he's happier positive it was what the Elder said it was. Needless to say Spyro just wanted out of that Swamp much like how in Ripto's Rage in just wanted his Vacation. Shame that Dragon Shores round up paying an exuberant entry fee and was Gnorc run! (I think he burnt it down.)
Funny you should mention the Beast Makers comparison, as that was actually going to be in the video at one point, but I removed it to cut down the time. I described it as being a good example of sympathy vs empathy.
@@MiharuTheFox Yeah I'd say that's part of it. I think the big driving factor of Spyro 1 was his personal growth of being a snot that cares for himself to being a person that winds up caring for others. I liked that about Skylanders Academy having a self-absorbed over-confident Spyro that had his ego blown, and had to learn heroism the hard way. I think they did get the source material, its just a shame that it was received the way it had been! (I totally want to see Dark Spyro in Spyro4!)
Growing up. Carlos in Spyro the dragon 97 interpetacion voise got stuck to me through the years in comparison whit Tom Kennys Year of the dragon..... even when I did´t have access to a Spyro game anymore for a lot of years, the fist thing itmidiatly it pop my head when Thinking of Spyro in an imaginary situación, it this one. I think Carlos nail it!
Great video, I didn't realise that the voice acting was changed that much to change Spyro's whole personality. I prefer the mean Spyro, SRT is too friendly.
Cons first, some parts where a hit but not a bullseye. Other parts it felt like the voice actors where reading of there lines with out putting more feelings into it. Pros I do like that they put some body language in it. The characters had more put into them that gave them a unique look. All in all it was hit but not a bullseye.
Spyro is a hero with a bit of an attitude he does get angry and even get a little rude at times he’s also sometimes happy at Moments as well there is never a moment where he’s not just happy all the time and never gets angry he does quite frequently many a times.
To answer your closing question, I think the casual fan dosn't even notice the difference. You make a good point thoguh. The line delivery in the orrigional is better.
So.. before I discovered the original games, I was introduced to Spyro by/grew up with the Legend trilogy, so that version of him and Elijah Wood's work will always be my favorite. But I love Tom Kenny as well as the other VA.
This is the first I'm hearing about not likng Carlos Alazraqui's performance. Even as someone who only played that demo on the Crash 3 disc before getting Spyro 2, Tom Kenny's voice took a little getting used to.
I wasn't aware this was a contention with the fans, but it is kinda silly. It is two different Spyros. The original one and the Skylanders one. Spyro one-- he was an eager brat, because he was the youngest dragon. Two-- he was an annoyed hero. Three-- he had attitude and wanted peace. Then the company went under and like Crash the buyers didn't know what to do with the character, and by time Dragon's Rage came out for the Wii Spyro changed to be a borderline jerk. Disney bought the character (I think or just the licences) and then we got Skylander Spyro, which Reignited is based off of. Of course it is a more genuine and kinder Spyro because that is the one that's based off of Skylander, which was a product mythos projected completely at very young players. Comparing them is pretty moot because both Spyros have different themes, interpretations, and ideas embedded within them on creation. Example: Spyro is like Batman-- Brave and the Bold and Batman Satam. Both have the tropes of Batman and even the themes of Batman, but the avenue of ideas and treatment of those tropes are what makes them two completely different works.
Do you mind if I use an edited version of your podcast form thing? because I've been getting into a lot of shit recently for using a few seconds of someone's footage without crediting them
I reeeally liked spyro's snark. I like that he was a little mean and a little selfish. I think they made him less interesting and too... I don't know how to explain it but it's like the way people talk in a children's show
Personally my favorite Spyro voices in order was always Tom Kenny, Carlos Alazraqui, Elijah Wood, and Jess Harnell. I never found Carlos Alazraqui annoying. He was my first Spyro and a VERY fitting voice for the purple boy. Though I still prefer Tom Kenny, him and Carlos are still my all time favorite voices for Spyro. I'm not a huge fan of the changes made in the dialogue either. It feels more like they took away what made Spyro, Spyro in the 90's for the sake of "updating" him for modern audience's.
I prefer Reignited. The Reasons are, better Gameplay, better Controls, better Voice-Acting yada yada yada... Not to say the Orignals aren´t bad, they just aged poorly by today´s Standard. Spyro 1 (Reignited): A great Game but with some frustrating Flighting-Levels and bad Bosses. Spyro 2 (Reignited): The best of the Trilogy, even though it some little Issues that kept it from being perfect. Spyro 3 (Reignited): Playing as different Characters is definitely a great Change of Pace for a trhird Game, even though some sh*tty Minigames bring it a bit down from being as good as the second Game.
Here is the thing..sacrasm and sass are lazy. Writing and portraying a character like this is a crutch. Sarcasm isn't emotion and isnt even witty. It is just saying the opposite of how you feel with a tone. Unlike wrodplay where you need an understanding of the language to appreciate it, you either have the abilty to recognize the tone or you dont. Even people who cant recognize it can still mimic a tone that expresses sarcam themselves. Simialrly, anyone can just be sassy and rude. This is why so many maladjusted kids become bullies and class clowns. It takes no actual mental effort or talent to be a jerk for laughs and attention. Same with trolls. It is an easy way for pepple to gain self gratification at a keyboard without actually doing anything of effort or worth. In the 90s, this was very well recognized by video game producers whos target demographic were kids. Rude and sarcastic characters are the junk food of media so of course they hammered them in gor the kids as much as possible. Lots of comedians want to pressure the idea that this is high comedy as well becayse it makes their job easier. It is hard to create jokes that are funny based on the concept and emotional acting delivery. It is easy for a person to be critical and say the opposite of what they feel with a tone added. Lots of people, especially those who grew up with the impression it is high vomedy and cool forced down their throat may still fall for it. A lot of other people realize the truth howevere after the insane flooding of this we hace gotten to essnetially every medium. If it is such high comedy that only those with taste can appreciate, why is there so much in the mainstream and why are there so many people doing it that come off almost exactly the same as each other? I think the progressive move to shy away from this crutch and hace charceters express MORE than just sass and sarcas. In their deliveries to act as a sole idenity should be auplauded. We dont need more fumb mean kid junkfood for the brain. This is how people grow up with stunted emotional intellegence, when thier exposed to such mich lacking and indifferent,empathetic behavior while being told it is real and acceptable emotion. Its a bery paper thin charicature. Children and people in greral need exposure to diverity and genuin emotion. Thats why acting is not typically easy. You are expressing something to be emotionally genuin on command. We should praise actirs attempting and doing this more over ones just being sarcastic. If you want to be a dimb little kid your whole life, then keep believing you are right..see? See how easy? I can be the next voice of Spyro! Again! See?
This is officially the longest analysis video I've done on the channel, even longer than both Bianca ones combined! I've had the idea for this sitting around in my head since 2019, and I felt now was the perfect time to get it done!
It was a pleasure to help work on this with you and finally get it out there! I remember the days when we had no idea what to say about him for an analysis video, and now with this video, I think it sums everything up perfectly!
I'm still laughing at that weird drone of spyro they made.
Also, I kinda wished that i could've been able to get myself one of those spyro pool rings, those were actually pretty amazing, ngl.
I hope they make Spyro 4 soon and drop a trailer
that's awesome you meet tom Kenny that crazy lucky !
@@cyburnman27 I didn't, my friend Max got those shoutouts for me
I will never get over that Spyro once sounded like SpongeBob or still is SpongeBob.
Tom Kenny is amazing I think. I have very mixed feelings about SpongeBob nowadays, but there’s no denying his impact on pop culture as a whole.
A more mature SpongeBob.
@@SplashSurfer216 absolutely!
And Heffer, and the Ice King, and Wayne Cramp, and of course Pencilvester who was a strong recurrent character in many Rick and Morty episodes.
@@e-122psi3 a vast list of different roles.
The amount of people who seem to think that Spyro was "ruined" in reignited will never not be hysterical to me. I can't really see anything wrong or "inferior" about his portrayal in Reingited, and, if I may be Frank - which I can't because that's not my name - I actually like his Reingited portrayal more than the original.
Honestly, me too. I love just about everything about the remake, and to me, I like the new portrayal. It makes the dragon more adorbs 😁
Too damn happy
Spyro is ruined because there is no new content with him since like ummmm 2008?
@@FREGFAT there's no such thing as "too happy." In this situation.
From Spyro the Dragon to Spyro 2: Ripto's Rage, I always thought that a year or two has past when I heard Spyro's voice sounding older in the second game. In a way, Carlos being the first to voice Spyro actually works well. :)
For those curious, I was the one who recorded that Tom Kenny shout out. Long story short, I went to one of his concerts at the LA Farmer's Market back in 2019, and I got him and Carlos Alazraqui to record separate shout-outs for Miharu after the show. So I'm very glad to finally see this used in a video!
Tom Kenny literally shouted you put, Miharu? That’s amazing I think.
Yeah! My friend went to see him in concert that night, and Carlos happened to be there too, so he was able to get two Spyro shoutouts in one!
@@MiharuTheFox no way!
Spyro is such amazing and dear mascot to me. His color purple, his short size and sassy attitude. And the reignited trilogy brought all to life.
However, after seeing this analysis, it kinda hit me that they never give him much a of character depth, but I'm okay with simplicity as long it doesn't get too derailed.
omg that tom kenny cameo is great
Personally i like the Reignited spyro more, somehow he captures the way i viewed him as a child, i always focused on the enthusiastic aspect when i was little.
I totally get it! I feel the same way about Reignited's portrayal of Ripto!
@@MiharuTheFox Yooo you know I always Loved Ripto as much as you do, he’s always been my favorite angry shortie 🧡
I’m so happy he’s finally getting some recognition in Crash Team Rumble!
Lets not forget that the experience of the voice actor from then to now can show when they are getting the feel of the character being portrayed.
Overall I can agree there are some differences between classic and reignited. A well done analysis
Thank you so much for addressing this, Miharu. As being a Spyro fan since the late 90's (97 Spyro was my first PSX game, in actuality), it was the cocky punkass personality that made me come to love Spyro at only seven years-old. Through Carlos' delivery of certain lines, I had gotten the impression that Spyro was young and just starting out on his first adventure, which he was.
One detail I think helps make a difference between both versions of Spyro 2 is Ripto's introduction. In the original, he's largely treated as nuisance that Elora just tells Zoe to distract without much effort. In the remake, Ripto tries to attack Spyro and Zoe steps in on her own accord and stops him, with her acting making quite clear she's TERRIFIED and endangering herself doing so. When Zoe comes back, Spyro can be seen shooting a protective look at Ripto, like "Okay, I get what YOU'RE all about, jerk". I feel like this helps reasons why Spyro seems a bit more motivated in the remake, since he knows from the get go that Ripto is a bully and a threat that these guys are struggling to repel.
Overall, reignited for me brought how my imagination remembered spyro into reality however seeing the side by side I do see the difference in personality, I wouldn't say it harms the character more of the slightest variation that both grows the depth of Spyros character in some ways(for the returning fans who could appreciate some evolution) but also aligning the personality to a more modern take of what the 90's personality was for new fans
JEEEEEEZ I WAS FANGIRLING THORUGH THE ENTIRETY OF THE INTRO WITH TOM KENNY 🤧😭🤧😭💖💖💖💖💖 That was so cool to get greetings for the channel!!!
I kind of like spyro as a more optimistic character I mean that’s what a titular character is supposed to act like before he or she meets the dangers of the adventure
OMG SPYRO!! :DDDD 💜💜💜
I understand you’re viewpoint. However, from my point of view, I prefer Spyro in Reignited over the originals. He seems the most real to me in Reignited in other areas that I just bound to more. He’s a lot more likable and I’d honestly be really upset if they change him to be more mean. Spyro’s a hero, and he’s meant for children. Times are different now, and I don’t think children would be drawn into a hero with too much sass. Spyro in Reignited has the perfect blend of sass and heroism, and that’s the Spyro I’ve grown attached to. But at the end of the day, interpretations of our amazing purple boi are subjective to us, and that’s why we all love Spyro. Make sense?
Overall, nice video and THANK YOU SO MUCH for doing a Spyro character analysis! He’s my favorite organism in all of fiction, nonfiction, and undiscovered fiction!!! 💜💜💜
Of who Spyro is in a nutshell, he's Bart Simpson in a lot of ways, you can really tell with the more mischievous side of him to when he actually cares I think if Spyro Reignited leaned towards more of a halfway mark of being Sarcastic and Sassy to being caring and determined I think Reignited could've been a better product all around, I do think that TFB when working on Spyro 4 should go back to the drawing board for Spyro and the rest of the crew of how to handle them going forward, much like how Insomniac handled going from Ratchet and Clank's 2016 Reimagining to Rift Apart where focused heavily on leaning towards that classic era of Ratchet while having some nods toward the 2016 game, so yeah a new Spyro game that leans heavily from the classic era of games while nodding towards reignited is the best option they got for Spyro 4.
Thanks for keeping spyro alive miharu 😊
While I do like the Reignited version for some of the changes that it brings, you're right that there's just a lot that the original trilogy had to offer that really got lost in the remake. The real feeling that the first game was this spitfire trouble-maker kid making a name for himself and making mistakes along the way, but open with his thoughts and emotions.
From the sympathetic daredevil in the original, to growing a bit, but dealing with the unfortunate situation of the second game but growing into it, to the more confident version in the 3rd game, actively working with the mystery of the world. All of it lines up with what you were talking about, and it's a sentiment that I share in that regard.
It's a progression of the character that gets lost in the remake, I feel. It feels less like it's occurring over the course of several years and more like they're happening near back to back in sequence in regards to chronology of the series. That's more the impression that I get with the two.
It's kind of the reason why I still prefer the original trilogy when I go back to play it on a trilogy binge. Just something about it that keeps bringing me back to it. I'll still play Reignited, but will more likely keep going back to the originals, even if I'm grateful for Reignited to have happened.
I would argue that the idea of voice delivery making lines different is because Tom Kenny sees a different character than what others see. He wants Spyro to evolve into his own interpretation than Carlos' performance.
Oh sure, it's not that his interpretation is wrong, I just think the earlier portrayals are more interesting overall.
In fact about Spyros voice, i found that really helpfull when i was thinking about Spyros age throught the games, something like this
Spyro 1: 8
Spyro 2: 11
Spyro 3 to Hero 12 to 13
Spyro new beg: 14
Spyro night: 15
Spyro Dawn D: 18
Since LoS is a retelling of his origin, wouldn't that reset his age as well?
@@MiharuTheFox hmm maybe but i also figures the legend series as some kind of the same story told from a different point of view, soemthing wich happends with Zeldas games and lore
@@MiharuTheFoxThat's true. I see TLOS Spyro, and by story-driven extension, Cynder, as around 13 in ANB/TEN, and 16 in DOTD.
I also see Skylanders Spyro is around 18, as Sonic Boom, one of the 4 original Air Skylanders, is around Spyro's size, and she already has children.
The lead concept artist of TLoS, Jared Pullen said his personal headcanon for Spyro's age in The Legend of Spyro is 12 or 13 in A New Beginning/The Eternal Night and 15 or 16 in Dawn of the Dragon. And there's apparently old Wendy's Spyro toys for The Eternal Night that listed Spyro's age as 12, which I didn't know until recently. Based on those, I've been saying 12 for ANB/TEN and 15 for DotD, but none of it is 100% confirmed canon, so no interpretation is wrong. 😌
As for Classic Spyro, the OG was designed to be something of a bratty 8 or 10 year old for the first game, so I've always went with 10 in Spyro The Dragon, 11 in Ripto's Rage/Gateway to Glimmer, and 12 in Year of the Dragon. IDK if ReIgnited is still going for that young feel or if he's in his 20's (12 years older for each installment?) and still smol, LOL.
I wanna start saying that thumbnail is lit. It presents the video at how it's gonna be and I love it.
And a SHOUTOUT from Mr. Tom Kenny himself? AWESOME!
Finally! A character analisis about the main protagonist! Crazy, huh?
You know? I haven't noticed that Spyro in fact sounded nasally in the first game until years later.
When I first played Spyro, I loved his snarky, bratty, braggy but daring and cool personality, just like any kid from the 90's would. It looks kinda resembling to Bart Simpson.
And overall I enjoyed him personality, he was that 90's cool kid behavior that every kid wanted to be.
In Reignited, I noticed how most of the dialogue was softened/altered in order to make Spyro sound much less bratty and snarky, and much more heroic and symphatetic, and actually I loved that personality.
I see why, nowadays when you make a kid hero, you want him to be a good example and an inspiration for the others, instead of something similar to a jerk. The original Spyro was returning after a long time so they wanted to give him a fresh comeback, and I think they did it well, Tom Kenny's 2018 voice shows how much he got to understand Spyro as a character and how he wants him to be seen by the world.
I don't think any of Spyro's voices did less to Spyro, they all did his best into portraying the little purple hero that saves the world and wants to chill.
Also I wanna mention about how he as a character is barely a bystander as you mentioned. The fact that the story mostly is him saving the world, it works in gameplay wise, but when we start asking about him and his story and role, there's where things get interesting.
I always wanted Spyro to have a connection to the story, such as in The Legend of Spyro where he is part of a prophecy and the key of salvation.
It's about make him stand with the plot, I would like to see that.
At the end, he is still what he ever was, Spyro, the dragon.
Amazing video!
Some of my favorite topics is to indulge into a character's differences between version, and here it was about Spyro's personality.
In all honestly, both are good, it shows a different portray of him according to the era he was and is, but still retains most of his characteristics.
Indeed an informative video that helps to understand him better. Superb!
if spyro was an kid, then Ratchet (from Ratchet and Clank) was the teenager, an snarky sarcastisc guy that had an good hearth, but can be sellfish sometimes ( like the most obvious version, the 2002 og, but he was kinda sellfish to clank in tools of destruction), but hes imperfections made him more, you know, human and relatable....... too bad that the 2016 game doesnt have any of that (also on a side note, Clank also changed in the second game, he is alot more passive agressive in some scenes).
and i am saying that as an guy that likes the 2016 game
@@evelinelima4243According to the Jak X racing, the Ratchet from Deadlocked option in the character selection screen; Ratchet was 18 around the time of Deadlocked.
even the first voice actor too?! Sweet
Awesome video I'm glad to be a Spyro fan I still think that Tom Kenny is my favorite voice of Spyro but I also like Elijah Wood as well
I admit I miss petulant Spyro in the original 1. Carlos' Spyro sounded more insecure and tempremental, like this was his first real adventure after a ton of screw ups as the bumbling kid of the group ("Not that YOU ever get into trouble Spyro", another character building quote they completely changed the delivery of). Kind of this shortened down 'Thomas the Tank Engine' type arc I guess where the overeager brat finally saves the day and proves himself. It lined up nicely with all his allies in later games like Hunter and Bianca as well, all insecure kids trying to put on a swanky front (with Ripto his character foil as a villain with all his worst qualities intensified). All three adventures felt like they tied into this small arc Spyro had as a hero. It's still there a LITTLE in Reignited, but not nearly as evident, only really by virtue that the dialogue is the same.
I feel like Reignited 2 does Spyro quite well, since that was alreeady the more matured Spyro but the animations and Tom's acting give him more enthusiasm (or in areas frustration due to being thrown into the game). This is full on altruistic Spyro, but it was meant to be in the first place. Spyro 3 is a bit of a downgrade though, I feel like Tom nailed his smartass side better in the original. I do like the animations showing his friendlier side though, especially around Hunter and the hatchlings in the final ending. He doesn't seem as apathetic here as in the original sequels.
I feel like the biggest problem with Toys For Bob's versions is that they tend to stick to only one side of a character, one that did exist before, but often what makes them interesting and dynamic is its a dual layer with another personality trait. Again an insecure frustrated character playing tough guy, or a goofball that has a hidden crafty/badass side, or a pompous intellectual that makes really dumb mistakes. Toys For Bob's interpretations tend to just be one or the other, flanderizing them into less compelling archetypes. Their take on Crash had a similar vibe with me. The simple laid back goofball who yet somehow outwits the uptight and thin skinned intellectuals was too much for them. Now he's just the comic relief dimwit around tons of flawlessly smart characters. These characters were always fairly simple archetypes, but the full use of all their characteristics made them likeable, TFB can't even use TWO and as a result their world and character building seems more...phony.
And in fairness they kept the 'cruelty to sheep' gags. "Jerkass Spyro" still exists even with the softening up. :P
While I wasn't really bothered by the change in the newer remaster it can be felt.. I think they should take a look at Sonic the Hedgehog in some of his newer stuff. Learn from that, and use it towards farther developing our boy Spyro. Sonic still has that whole sass, but care free 90's attituded feel to him a lot, and I think it can still be captured for Spyro as well. How ever, I honestly think if they have more time to work on a newer game than they got for Reignited, that perhaps things would feel more smooth and natural interaction/dialogs wise.. Or Well.. I hope that would be the case.
Personally, I would say I like the original portrayal of Spyro's character better -- he always came across to me as being somewhat overconfident and slightly immature, almost like he's not doing his heroics because he wants to, but because he feels he has to. In the first game, he rescues the other dragons because they're his kin, and takes out Gnasty Gnorc as a way to get revenge on him for what he did to his species; again, it feels less like he wants to do it, but that he feels he has to because he's the only one that can step up to the challenge. It's the same kind of thing in Ripto's Rage -- he was brought to Avalar by an outside force, he doesn't WANT to be there, and given that it's implied that the game takes place not long after the first, he is most likely still unwinding after having defeated Gnasty Gnorc, but whichever way you choose to look at it, I think it's understandable that he doesn't want to be in Avalar if he doesn't have to, and the rest of the cast knows it, which is why they make the effort to let him have access to Dragon Shores as a way to thank him for all he did for them, as can be seen in the cutscence after beating Gulp. That said, Spyro still comes to respect his companions, especially Hunter and Elora, and I feel the third game shows this well, particularly with Hunter, which I think is why he's offput by him falling for Bianca: again, Spyro is rather immature, and I personally believe that his portrayal in the original games making him snarkier and less eager to jump to the aid of others because of said immaturity is more believable, especially since he's still so young. That said, I get why they wanted to make him friendlier in the Reignited Trilogy: he's an ironic mascot and the hero of the games he appears in, so they wanted to make him feel nicer and more heroic to try to make him more appealing and a better role model for young impressionable kids that pick up the game -- the problem is that it comes at the expense of making him feel less relatable -- most kids wouldn't want to be thrust into a position were they have to be the ones to save people, in no small part because that's a lot of work and responsibility to have for one so young.
The more I come back to this video, I can't help but feel grateful that there was so much depth and research that went into this Spyro analysis video. It's really one of your best analysis videos, Miharu. The highlighted comparisons between OG and Reignited successfully show Spyro in two different lights. Personally, I'm biased toward preferring his OG personality portrayal over RI, but that's just my two cents, aha xD. Still, I think RI played a huge role in making Spyro relevant today, regardless of my preference lol (for instance, his updated model and render are gorgeous.) No, seriously, fantastic job with the video 💜🐲
AAA THANK YOU!!
People like Tom Kenny who happily give shout outs like he did are the best.
I always like these analysis videos, they scratch a particular itch in my brain that has this need to compare everything. The comparison of voice inflection and tone are why I prefer Clancy Brown's Dr. Cortex from Lex Lang's portrayal in the N. Sane Trilogy. Lex did stellar work in Twinsanity so he's not bad by any means, the writing, character acting and voice direction just seems to be the main complaints for the modern works, it seems. It's a testament to the original portrayals that they can still be deemed superior even after all this time and remaking.
I feel like it's that deal I mentioned before. Clancy Brown could effortlessly combine 'serious and sinister' Cortex with 'hammy and comical' Cortex while it feels like with N Sane Trilogy they go full on with either one or the other with Lex Lang, making his performance feel more limited. The remakes and new games for both Crash and Spyro feel like they tend to only go for one personality trait with the characters making them feel more one dimensional.
@@e-122psi3I would agree. I wonder if it was the limitations of the time that made all involved more focused on a more thought out performance, or if that level of thought just isn't put into it as much anymore. I wonder which it might be, if either.
I know that some people don't like Spyro's slight personality change, or the fact that the level design is altered from the original PS1 games. But man... I consider the Reignited Trilogy to be a miracle. Spyro's new design and animations are like a work of art. The levels so beautiful now, too. There are times when I'm afraid I'll wake up one day and discover that it was all a dream and the Reignited Trilogy never really happened.
I love that little purple boi.
Good ol Tom. What a treasure.
This helps me realize some reasons why some lines feel off in Reignited, not bad, just... a bit too clean for what I expect from spyro.
Not to say there weren't flaws before, and nostalgia is a factor, certainly but, I generally prefer the original voice acting for spyro, as well as hunter and even some npcs. Both are valid experiences but I'll still play the original sometimes, which I don't feel the need to do for the N'sane trilogy as a similar example, which captures the original feel and I consider more of a definitive upgrade.
But that's just me.
*While it never hurts to have a healthy taste of Memory Lane in things and characters, I think having a beautiful blend of naturalistic truth pureheartedness and vibrant hope helps balance with the heroic spunk, inique intelligence, and winsome charm of characters, especially for Spyro the Dragon in the modern era!* *Thanks for the new video, **#MiharuTheFox**!* ;D *Here's hoping we get more of Spyro 's better angels to overcome his inner demons in future video game sequels like Spyro 4 and beyond!* ;D 😇
That’s awesome that you got Tom Kenny to to a video into for you.
Coming back after a while not keeping up with your videos I love you included Shantae in your video intro.
I miss Elora but Shantae makes a fine replacement. :)
Also I kinda miss Carlos' interpretation of Spyro, even if Tom's portrayal has become alot more iconic. It would have been awesome if later TFB included a DLC voice pack that re-recorded all of Spyro's lines with Carlos reprising the role - So you could choose your preferred Spyro between him and Tom.
One bit of 'savage' Spyro remaining I notice no one talks about, in Spyro 3, he not only objects to helping Bianca from the monster, but in the remake, when it actually swallows her whole, while Hunter looks horrified, Spyro just has a totally vacant smile. Basically "Welp, that's the end of that then." :P
I definitely feel like Spyro 3 gave him a bit more of his attitude back, like maybe they thought Spyro 2 softened him up a bit too much.
9:26 Nervous, you say?
I think the way he said "Battle" sounds like Spyro barely sees these boss fights as an actual challenge.
Which is accurate; Jacques doesn't put much of a fight.
Which is why I brought up that it could be interpreted that way as well. But seeing as this is the only boss he asks for advice about, coupled with the face he makes, I thought it a notable interaction to mention.
Love your content 🎉
I love Carlos performance, who doesn’t?
Great video, Miharu! 😁
Personally, I like Spyro's ReIgnited interpretation more overall (though I do still love the original takes and voices too). I grew up with The Legend of Spyro before the Insomniac trilogy, so I'm biased. Spyro feels like more of his own character in ReIgnited to me, and I think it's because OG Classic Spyro having that 90's snark makes him too similar to Sonic the Hedgehog in my interpretation of their characters. Each time his characterization got lighter-hearted (Between 1 and 2, and then the remake), it just felt like it fit more. I do agree that his sarcastic takes can be interesting and that they sometimes fit better (rescuing Jed being a good example) and it's totally okay that he's still got the cocky side of him for his achievements and belief in himself, but I like that he doesn't feel as mean-spirited and dismissive when he talks to the elder dragons too. That said, I want to see a good blend of sarcastic banter and playful enthusiasm, and I think ReIgnited is a step in the right direction. I'm looking forward to seeing how they might expand his personality in the possible Spyro 4. 😌😊
Great analysis. And, yeah, I think that, nowadays, writers seem to fear a hero that doesn't act up the ideals of hero. A hero must be someone always someone pure-hearted, nice to everyone.
And while there's nothing wrong with that, the problem is that they are turning characters that were knew to be arrogant, snarky and nasty with their enemies.
What happened with Spyro, happened with Ratchet of Ratchet & Clank, since when the Movie/game came out, he's like a different character from the one we know and love.
Well, Ratchet naturally grew up throughout the series; he was somewhat of a cocky teen in the Classic Trilogy, and a young Adult in the Future Trilogy, where a lot of revelations had changed his personality from a cocky attitude to a more serious attitude. By Rift Apart, he's already matured as a slightly older Adult.
All around I think you perfectly summarise not only that old Spyro's acting compared to the reignited acting is not only better for the setting but almost all of the characters sound much better in the old games.
Fun fact: In the reignited Trilogy you have the option to changed the Ost in the game to the original versions. That kinda thing makes me wish they had a similar option for the voicing acting
Thanks! I actually did a video a few years ago on why switching the voice tracks wouldn't work as well: ua-cam.com/video/LzY2vPY8uEg/v-deo.html
I'm playing Spyro while watching this!
This was an interesting comparison to see side by side Miharu!
For me, I really enjoy both versions of Spyro and think they're both valid.
I don't consider Reignited to be a "replacement" for the original trilogy, but a worthwhile reimagining.
I think both interpretations of Spyro explore plenty about the character, and I just can't bring myself to ever say "there can only be one REAL Spyro personality!"
I also think Spyro's enthusiastic nature in Reignited absolutely represents the times we currently live in. At least, to me, he kinda represents what I was personally feeling when Reignited happened. Joy, enthusiasm, and a desire to go on memorably magical adventures and flame bad guy butt! Cause there is no game like Spyro at all!
I also have always seen Spyro to be very setting and gameplay driven in its narratives. Much like Crash Bandicoot, Spyro is a character whom I feel his personality resonates most as I play through the game and interacting with these magical worlds.
5:45 I'm pretty sure you can take some sort of deep, philosophical meaning from this.
Yooo congrats on the Tom Kenny Spyro shoutout for Miharu!
Characters nowadays might be a bit too apologetic for my tastes.
There's nothing wrong with making a character who's a bit selfish, a little abrasive, maybe slightly jaded, and yet still has a heart of gold.
Very on point.
Carlos to me just sounds like pee wee herman
Imo the difference between Tom's & Carlos's performance of Spyro is much more noticeable in the 1st game, while Tom's performance in 2 & 3 of both the orignals & Reignited was more or less the same. In the 1st game, Spyro was edgier and cockier so Carlos's performance was perfect for that. By Spyro 2, Spyro's was kinda reluctant to waste his vacation time to stop a bad guy so he was more mellowed out & more reserved so I'm used to Tom's interpretation of that Spyro who felt like he grew up a bit from his first adventure.
Good video! Also love the thumbnail!
No inventes... ¡¡el mismo Bob Esponja te saludo!! ¿o el profesor?
I do think of Beast Makers in the comparison between the OG Spyro and the New Spyro. In the old version when he's talking to the Beast Makers dragons and their state of home
he's much more reluctant to side with a 'Swamp' thinking it personally gross (Ironic that Legend Spyro gets raised in One.) but he still helps them anyway cause 'hey I need to help
these guys if it means I get to get Gnasty Gnorc!' as apposed to the new version where he's just happy to help regardless. When he says "I'm sure it was." in response to "It was beautiful"
he sounds like he's biting back his nausea in OG when in the new version he's happier positive it was what the Elder said it was. Needless to say Spyro just wanted out of
that Swamp much like how in Ripto's Rage in just wanted his Vacation. Shame that Dragon Shores round up paying an exuberant entry fee and was Gnorc run! (I think he burnt it down.)
Funny you should mention the Beast Makers comparison, as that was actually going to be in the video at one point, but I removed it to cut down the time. I described it as being a good example of sympathy vs empathy.
@@MiharuTheFox Yeah I'd say that's
part of it. I think the big driving factor of Spyro 1 was his personal growth of being a snot that cares for himself to being a person that winds up caring for others. I liked that about Skylanders Academy having a self-absorbed over-confident
Spyro that had his ego blown, and had to learn heroism the hard way. I think they
did get the source material, its just a shame that it was received the way it had been!
(I totally want to see Dark Spyro in Spyro4!)
Growing up. Carlos in Spyro the dragon 97 interpetacion voise got stuck to me through the years in comparison whit Tom Kennys Year of the dragon..... even when I did´t have access to a Spyro game anymore for a lot of years, the fist thing itmidiatly it pop my head when Thinking of Spyro in an imaginary situación, it this one. I think Carlos nail it!
To be honest, I've never noticed the differences. Although, I've also never compared to played the original and Reignited side by side.
Great video, I didn't realise that the voice acting was changed that much to change Spyro's whole personality. I prefer the mean Spyro, SRT is too friendly.
Cons first, some parts where a hit but not a bullseye. Other parts it felt like the voice actors where reading of there lines with out putting more feelings into it. Pros I do like that they put some body language in it. The characters had more put into them that gave them a unique look. All in all it was hit but not a bullseye.
I'll always prefer smart ass Spyro, besides... I've practically grown up with the Spyro games myself
Spyro is a hero with a bit of an attitude he does get angry and even get a little rude at times he’s also sometimes happy at Moments as well there is never a moment where he’s not just happy all the time and never gets angry he does quite frequently many a times.
Hot take; I honestly prefer Carlos over Tom as the voice of Spyro personally.
You and me 👊 (I love Tom, don't get me wrong, but Carlos WAS the Spyro for me, personally)
To answer your closing question, I think the casual fan dosn't even notice the difference.
You make a good point thoguh. The line delivery in the orrigional is better.
So.. before I discovered the original games, I was introduced to Spyro by/grew up with the Legend trilogy, so that version of him and Elijah Wood's work will always be my favorite. But I love Tom Kenny as well as the other VA.
This is the first I'm hearing about not likng Carlos Alazraqui's performance. Even as someone who only played that demo on the Crash 3 disc before getting Spyro 2, Tom Kenny's voice took a little getting used to.
I wasn't aware this was a contention with the fans, but it is kinda silly.
It is two different Spyros.
The original one and the Skylanders one. Spyro one-- he was an eager brat, because he was the youngest dragon. Two-- he was an annoyed hero. Three-- he had attitude and wanted peace. Then the company went under and like Crash the buyers didn't know what to do with the character, and by time Dragon's Rage came out for the Wii Spyro changed to be a borderline jerk.
Disney bought the character (I think or just the licences) and then we got Skylander Spyro, which Reignited is based off of. Of course it is a more genuine and kinder Spyro because that is the one that's based off of Skylander, which was a product mythos projected completely at very young players.
Comparing them is pretty moot because both Spyros have different themes, interpretations, and ideas embedded within them on creation.
Example:
Spyro is like Batman-- Brave and the Bold and Batman Satam. Both have the tropes of Batman and even the themes of Batman, but the avenue of ideas and treatment of those tropes are what makes them two completely different works.
Which I find funny because Spyro in Skylanders Academy has arguably the most negative qualities of any version.
@@MiharuTheFox negative as how:
As in he was a jerk?
As in he wasn't his self?
As in he was a self-centered jerk.
Still waiting for the next game
Is this a D&D allignment vidio for Spyro?
Do you mind if I use an edited version of your podcast form thing? because I've been getting into a lot of shit recently for using a few seconds of someone's footage without crediting them
I reeeally liked spyro's snark. I like that he was a little mean and a little selfish. I think they made him less interesting and too... I don't know how to explain it but it's like the way people talk in a children's show
Personally my favorite Spyro voices in order was always Tom Kenny, Carlos Alazraqui, Elijah Wood, and Jess Harnell. I never found Carlos Alazraqui annoying. He was my first Spyro and a VERY fitting voice for the purple boy. Though I still prefer Tom Kenny, him and Carlos are still my all time favorite voices for Spyro.
I'm not a huge fan of the changes made in the dialogue either. It feels more like they took away what made Spyro, Spyro in the 90's for the sake of "updating" him for modern audience's.
Yeah toys 4 bob took alot of charm out of those games. But i got mods atleast
all i can say pick tom kenny over carlos don't get me wrong he ok doing spyro one but Reignited Trilogy one fav all time
I prefer Reignited.
The Reasons are, better Gameplay, better Controls, better Voice-Acting yada yada yada...
Not to say the Orignals aren´t bad, they just aged poorly by today´s Standard.
Spyro 1 (Reignited): A great Game but with some frustrating Flighting-Levels and bad Bosses.
Spyro 2 (Reignited): The best of the Trilogy, even though it some little Issues that kept it from being perfect.
Spyro 3 (Reignited): Playing as different Characters is definitely a great Change of Pace for a trhird Game, even though some sh*tty Minigames bring it a bit down from being as good as the second Game.
I hate you. I wanna meet Tom Kenny! ❤
So do I, I've only talked to him on the phone XD
@@MiharuTheFoxlol
Here is the thing..sacrasm and sass are lazy. Writing and portraying a character like this is a crutch. Sarcasm isn't emotion and isnt even witty. It is just saying the opposite of how you feel with a tone. Unlike wrodplay where you need an understanding of the language to appreciate it, you either have the abilty to recognize the tone or you dont. Even people who cant recognize it can still mimic a tone that expresses sarcam themselves. Simialrly, anyone can just be sassy and rude. This is why so many maladjusted kids become bullies and class clowns. It takes no actual mental effort or talent to be a jerk for laughs and attention. Same with trolls. It is an easy way for pepple to gain self gratification at a keyboard without actually doing anything of effort or worth. In the 90s, this was very well recognized by video game producers whos target demographic were kids. Rude and sarcastic characters are the junk food of media so of course they hammered them in gor the kids as much as possible. Lots of comedians want to pressure the idea that this is high comedy as well becayse it makes their job easier. It is hard to create jokes that are funny based on the concept and emotional acting delivery. It is easy for a person to be critical and say the opposite of what they feel with a tone added. Lots of people, especially those who grew up with the impression it is high vomedy and cool forced down their throat may still fall for it. A lot of other people realize the truth howevere after the insane flooding of this we hace gotten to essnetially every medium. If it is such high comedy that only those with taste can appreciate, why is there so much in the mainstream and why are there so many people doing it that come off almost exactly the same as each other? I think the progressive move to shy away from this crutch and hace charceters express MORE than just sass and sarcas. In their deliveries to act as a sole idenity should be auplauded. We dont need more fumb mean kid junkfood for the brain. This is how people grow up with stunted emotional intellegence, when thier exposed to such mich lacking and indifferent,empathetic behavior while being told it is real and acceptable emotion. Its a bery paper thin charicature. Children and people in greral need exposure to diverity and genuin emotion. Thats why acting is not typically easy. You are expressing something to be emotionally genuin on command. We should praise actirs attempting and doing this more over ones just being sarcastic. If you want to be a dimb little kid your whole life, then keep believing you are right..see? See how easy? I can be the next voice of Spyro! Again! See?