This is such a great video! I can't stand gatekeeping and those with that ego that they are the "best". That isn't possible within art, its subjective! Thank you for making this.
Pro tip for thumbnails: Wojack the junk out of them. Huge red arrows pointing at... something. Also, we just gotta keep making what we want and tell off the haters. Finally, that four hour movie analogy made me remember pre-pitch-clock baseball. I love baseball, but a four-hour 14-inning game is a grind.
@@jonathancaballeros3408 Wojack? Not sure I know what that is 😬 I’m not a baseball guy because it feels like the entire game is a grind to watch 😂 can’t imagine a 14 inning game
@@doublenegative4real Wojacks are the crude drawings of people with overly expressed faces and them pointing at whatever you've made them point to. Baseball is faster now, I swear!
Its semantics, I think what many people consider a filmmaker, may differ from what you consider one. A title is something you work towards, I can understand if people who are involved in the traditional film industry are getting annoyed with tens of thousands of largely self-taught people latching onto what they have worked towards. It lessens the decades of hard work they have put in in the eyes of others. Many people who worked in the traditional film industry also see the TV industry as a separate thing. I'm an engineer, a job title that's been used for a huge range of roles. I don't get annoyed if someone asks what I do and I say my job title and they think I repair kitchen goods, when in reality I mostly sit behind a computer all day working on high-value projects but many of the old timers do.
@@banana_necessary I think working towards a title makes sense if you need a license or education to be something. Like a doctor or rank in the military. But with filmmaking, there’s no such thing. Everyone’s definition of being a filmmaker is a different thing because some have access to Hollywood and others don’t. Trying to create invisible lines is silly in something like photography or filmmaking because there’s no governing institution that makes the rules.
@@doublenegative4real Certainly, there are no specific formal qualifications or licences, but the traditional pathway has always seemed to be, going to film school, but not necessarily completing it and taking low level positions within the industry, developing connections/building friendships, getting more work and responsibilities within several roles over an extended period. There are also unions linked to the industry. UA-cam bypasses this. UA-cam is simply a content delivery platform, with an algorithm that promotes/pushes creators. It would be unfair to say all content on the platform is the same, as there are individuals creating feature length documentaries, but there are significantly more short cat videos. I imagine there would be less pushback about the filmmaker title if it were just the individual’s making documentaries.
@ I don’t think it’s all the same, but I do think the public generally sees all those different styles of story-telling as the same. You can rent big blockbusters on UA-cam as well as watch a guy ranting into the camera. I think most people are beginning to not differentiate between the two as much as they used to. I hold Dune 2 in higher regard than a regular YT video, but I think that’s becoming an old fashioned way of thinking.
Yeah, no… I divorced myself from SM many years ago. Dropped local and national news broadcasts as well. Gotta say my stress level dropped! Now I’m focused more on things 1) I can affect; and 2) I choose what info comes my way, instead of being a passive sponge. But, you know, that’s just me, an old guy (69 at the end of December). People who spend time looking for others to put down… 1) not worth anyone’s time; 2) are not making anything of value. So, yeah… you don’t need to cover this topic again. But I am going to look up your podcast. Make for a change of pace listening to while I’m out running errands or heading out to photograph. Thanks, Will!
@@ezpoppy55 getting off social is a good move! I’m effectively off it in some ways, I mostly just post and interact with friends. Scrolling too much makes me feel gross. But yes negativity gets views but is definitely a waste of time. Thanks for watching! Always appreciate your thoughts!
Gate keeping and the art/creative world, name a more iconic duo.
@@zguy95135 lol 😂 definitely
This is such a great video! I can't stand gatekeeping and those with that ego that they are the "best". That isn't possible within art, its subjective! Thank you for making this.
@@MoMo-li3zn thanks!! Glad you enjoyed it!
Pro tip for thumbnails: Wojack the junk out of them. Huge red arrows pointing at... something.
Also, we just gotta keep making what we want and tell off the haters.
Finally, that four hour movie analogy made me remember pre-pitch-clock baseball. I love baseball, but a four-hour 14-inning game is a grind.
@@jonathancaballeros3408 Wojack? Not sure I know what that is 😬
I’m not a baseball guy because it feels like the entire game is a grind to watch 😂 can’t imagine a 14 inning game
@@doublenegative4real Wojacks are the crude drawings of people with overly expressed faces and them pointing at whatever you've made them point to.
Baseball is faster now, I swear!
Its semantics, I think what many people consider a filmmaker, may differ from what you consider one. A title is something you work towards, I can understand if people who are involved in the traditional film industry are getting annoyed with tens of thousands of largely self-taught people latching onto what they have worked towards. It lessens the decades of hard work they have put in in the eyes of others. Many people who worked in the traditional film industry also see the TV industry as a separate thing.
I'm an engineer, a job title that's been used for a huge range of roles. I don't get annoyed if someone asks what I do and I say my job title and they think I repair kitchen goods, when in reality I mostly sit behind a computer all day working on high-value projects but many of the old timers do.
@@banana_necessary I think working towards a title makes sense if you need a license or education to be something. Like a doctor or rank in the military. But with filmmaking, there’s no such thing. Everyone’s definition of being a filmmaker is a different thing because some have access to Hollywood and others don’t. Trying to create invisible lines is silly in something like photography or filmmaking because there’s no governing institution that makes the rules.
@@doublenegative4real Certainly, there are no specific formal qualifications or licences, but the traditional pathway has always seemed to be, going to film school, but not necessarily completing it and taking low level positions within the industry, developing connections/building friendships, getting more work and responsibilities within several roles over an extended period. There are also unions linked to the industry. UA-cam bypasses this.
UA-cam is simply a content delivery platform, with an algorithm that promotes/pushes creators. It would be unfair to say all content on the platform is the same, as there are individuals creating feature length documentaries, but there are significantly more short cat videos. I imagine there would be less pushback about the filmmaker title if it were just the individual’s making documentaries.
@ I don’t think it’s all the same, but I do think the public generally sees all those different styles of story-telling as the same. You can rent big blockbusters on UA-cam as well as watch a guy ranting into the camera. I think most people are beginning to not differentiate between the two as much as they used to. I hold Dune 2 in higher regard than a regular YT video, but I think that’s becoming an old fashioned way of thinking.
Yeah, no… I divorced myself from SM many years ago. Dropped local and national news broadcasts as well. Gotta say my stress level dropped!
Now I’m focused more on things 1) I can affect; and 2) I choose what info comes my way, instead of being a passive sponge.
But, you know, that’s just me, an old guy (69 at the end of December).
People who spend time looking for others to put down… 1) not worth anyone’s time; 2) are not making anything of value.
So, yeah… you don’t need to cover this topic again. But I am going to look up your podcast. Make for a change of pace listening to while I’m out running errands or heading out to photograph.
Thanks, Will!
@@ezpoppy55 getting off social is a good move! I’m effectively off it in some ways, I mostly just post and interact with friends. Scrolling too much makes me feel gross.
But yes negativity gets views but is definitely a waste of time.
Thanks for watching! Always appreciate your thoughts!