Rotel Toroidal Transformer Manufacturing Process

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  • Опубліковано 26 чер 2020
  • Every Rotel toroidal transformer is designed, engineered and manufactured in our own factory to ensure the performance and quality deserving of Rotel is included in each model. Noise free, high performance and and the highest standards of build quality. This process ensures every model is deserving of the Rotel name.
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КОМЕНТАРІ • 121

  • @davidfalconer8913
    @davidfalconer8913 8 місяців тому +6

    The toroid winding machine is very satisfying to watch in any transfomer factory ! ...... DAVE™ 🛑

  • @fredgien
    @fredgien 3 роки тому +2

    Top kwaliteit zo te zien.

  • @roberthallas6964
    @roberthallas6964 8 місяців тому +4

    Amazing process respect

  • @lmwlmw4468
    @lmwlmw4468 8 місяців тому

    Awesome, I wasn't aware of this. I still have my old ROTEL RCD965BX CD player.......

  • @KeritechElectronics
    @KeritechElectronics 8 місяців тому

    Nice. I learned something new! :)

  • @mirkodrechsel
    @mirkodrechsel 8 місяців тому +32

    It's a shame that the music is so loud that it suppresses the manufacturing noise

    • @Timsturbs
      @Timsturbs 7 місяців тому +5

      that is manufacturing noise, 120db of high fidelity music 24/7, Rotel HiFi !

  • @emmanuelunitedchurchottawa4152
    @emmanuelunitedchurchottawa4152 7 місяців тому

    Beautiful

  • @Andrey_Kirich
    @Andrey_Kirich 7 місяців тому +3

    Такая крутая фирма, а судя по видео ощущение что цеха где-то в подвале...

  • @hanseich
    @hanseich 7 місяців тому +1

    @1:32 I’d like to see how that works in detail. I have a hard time imagining how the machine can continuously feed a wire around the core. Is there a really long lead up that is folded in half? The cable can’t possibly be on a feeder coil or that coil would have to be passed through the transformer that is being built. Anyone got any info on that?

    • @2sc458
      @2sc458 7 місяців тому

      The xformer's total wire need is wound onto the armature that goes through the torroid's hole, then 'unwound' onto the laminations.

  • @alexandrsherbakov9878
    @alexandrsherbakov9878 8 місяців тому +4

    Очень качественная работа. Респект.

    • @RASSTRIGIN
      @RASSTRIGIN 7 місяців тому

      Как понять очень качественная работа? Это не в гараже ни коленке....

    • @alexandrsherbakov9878
      @alexandrsherbakov9878 7 місяців тому

      Да "Калина" тоже не на коленке делается, но почему то предпочитают Мерседес, Фольксвапен и т.д...))

  • @sureshchgame2391
    @sureshchgame2391 8 місяців тому

    ❤❤❤

  • @josepeixoto3384
    @josepeixoto3384 2 місяці тому

    testing there at 1000 Volts and 20 milli Amperes; what was that for?

  • @abelederon855
    @abelederon855 7 місяців тому

    Very nice! Good job!

  • @Fergo101
    @Fergo101 7 місяців тому

    I loved my 5 channel rotel amp - it was a monster.. but one night while in bed it went bang. It sounded like a hand grenade. The capacitors exploded and leaked a horrid smell. it was under warranty. Unfortunately for me, the courier ‘lost’ it on its way to the rotel repair center. I can’t blame rotel for that but it was their product failing that required the courier in the first place. I was in my 20’s and saved like crazy to get it. Bummed out for sure.

    • @juanbaclavab
      @juanbaclavab 7 місяців тому

      so you lost it entirely along with the money or someone had to pay you for losing it?

  • @user-bx3ew3sr9s
    @user-bx3ew3sr9s 7 місяців тому +1

    Отличная работа, я думал что китай делает по другому...

    • @user-es7lo7fb6z
      @user-es7lo7fb6z 7 місяців тому

      Да качество разное попадается.

  • @laszlobenyei483
    @laszlobenyei483 7 місяців тому

    👍❤️

  • @dirkwalther2354
    @dirkwalther2354 7 місяців тому

    Hier sehen wir natürlich gleich mehrere Fehler - allerding ein gutes Zeichen dafür, dass nicht nur bei preiswerten Geräten Kompromisse eingegengen werden. Insgesamt sehe ich die Marke "Rotel" aber überwiegend als empfehlenswert an, die Preise schätze für den Einsteigerbereich als gut und günstig ein.

  • @Myghty_Pipka
    @Myghty_Pipka 7 місяців тому

    ммм классика...

  • @user-jj2jf1mg3d
    @user-jj2jf1mg3d 7 місяців тому

    интересно почему после печи лента цвет не поменяла или это нормально ?

  • @juliegreen7604
    @juliegreen7604 7 місяців тому +3

    @thomaslechner1622
    A LPS has a much lower noise level than SMPS so is generally a better choice for electrically sensitive equipment such as high quality hifi and medical equipment.
    But obviously is lower efficiency, heavier etc.
    A SMPS may be ok for general stuff, but that doesn't make it good for everything.

    • @guytech7310
      @guytech7310 7 місяців тому +2

      Nah. Good SMPS will have much less noise as it will eliminate all of the line noise. Its much easier to filter out high frequency than very low frequencies (ie 50hz\60hz) since you can CLC and coupled inductors can be considerable smaller for high frequencies. Also much faster load regulation.

    • @juliegreen7604
      @juliegreen7604 7 місяців тому

      @guytech7310
      That only considers electrical supply noise, the rf emissions are an issue with smps compared to linear.
      It's no use trying to argue black is white, facts are facts, there simply isn't ~20kHz radiation from linear, where there is from a smps.
      Once you have emitted electromagnetic waves it is difficult to eliminate, hence why linear supplies have their applications.

    • @guytech7310
      @guytech7310 7 місяців тому +2

      @@juliegreen7604 Put this way, My Fluke 7- digit precision multimeter has a SMPS.
      When I design any electronics that uses precision analog inputs, its got a SMPS. I typically use a high frequency buck converter for the analog rail voltage regulation & use a CLC with a coupled inductor to get the noise very low, then I use a ultra low noise linear regulator to remove any remaining noise. I've used this to supply for 16-bit & 20-bit ADCs.
      Line noise is a problem for linear PS, Every time a inductance load turns on\off it generates noise that a linear PS will not filter out.

    • @juliegreen7604
      @juliegreen7604 7 місяців тому +1

      @guytech7310
      I suggest you read my previous reply as you are completely missing the concept of noise.
      Smps are producers of significant rfi/emc issues , these issues are all but non-existent with linears.
      Smps have their place, but they are not magic, there are instances where linears are more suitable.
      Line noise, as you said, can be reduced easily, rfi and emc issues are notoriously difficult to resolve.

    • @guytech7310
      @guytech7310 7 місяців тому +1

      @@juliegreen7604 No since SMPS can be shielded. The emi/rf problem you continue to hang on to isn't an issue in the real world.
      You seem to just be ignoring facts & reality. Hope that works out for you. Good day.

  • @psyphonyxaudio
    @psyphonyxaudio 8 місяців тому

  • @coolruehle
    @coolruehle 7 місяців тому

    Where I live, Rotel is a canned salsa base

  • @diabolo3506
    @diabolo3506 7 місяців тому

    La musique est pénible. ;)

  • @barryf5479
    @barryf5479 7 місяців тому +1

    It would be interesting to show the toroid winding process. 'Something quickly glossed over in the video.

  • @mdatikur5278
    @mdatikur5278 2 роки тому +1

    এ গুলোর দাম কত

  • @specop6783
    @specop6783 8 місяців тому

    More than 85% of household appliances in the United States are made in China. In Europe - 70%. China produces more than 50% of all cameras in the world, 30% of air conditioners and 25% of washing machines.

    • @gibbogle
      @gibbogle 7 місяців тому

      It probably makes 50% of EVs.

  • @metalmartin6.6.6
    @metalmartin6.6.6 Рік тому +10

    The humming transformer in the RB-1582mk2, your Chinese manufacture is bad, which is confirmed not only by me, but also by other users of the said power amplifier.

    • @Kolin4556
      @Kolin4556 9 місяців тому +1

      И сильно гудит? Торы гудят обычно. Я напечатал на 3д принтере круглые ножки, наклеил 10мм вспененную резину, усилитель NAD гудел ели слышно, на ножках вообще перестал гудеть.

    • @Subgunman
      @Subgunman 8 місяців тому +1

      The humming issue could be eliminated by running weld lines along the open sides of the core every inch. This will bond the laminations together eliminating hum. This also solved the issue with standard transformer cores. Welding the laminating layers together.

    • @theaustralianconundrum
      @theaustralianconundrum 8 місяців тому

      I bought my Rotel RB 1582 MKII in 2017 and it is absolutely SILENT. No hum whatsoever! It's an amazing power amp for the price.@@Subgunman

    • @Timsturbs
      @Timsturbs 7 місяців тому

      you payed 2000euro for an amp? ahahahahaa

    • @metalmartin6.6.6
      @metalmartin6.6.6 7 місяців тому

      @@Timsturbs I'm also happy that I paid less than 200 Euro for a new piece at auction :)

  • @williamhardy4328
    @williamhardy4328 7 місяців тому +6

    Imagine how little time and effort it would take to develop a procedure for insulation testing that didn't expose workers to deadly voltages.

    • @wombatillo
      @wombatillo 7 місяців тому +4

      Indeed. That is some medieval testing fixture using alligator clips or pushing wire ends into brass forks and the testing supply gives +500V and 45 mA. That could easily flatline a worker.

    • @BungeeGum1
      @BungeeGum1 7 місяців тому +3

      @@wombatillo The testing power supply is not on (1000v, 50ma) until the worker holds down a momentary switch that is positioned away from the fixture, it's completely safe.
      Worker has been doing it for 30 years lol.

  • @fododude
    @fododude 7 місяців тому

    Nice amplifiers until something goes wrong. Then the price to have it repaired nearly matches the price you paid for it.

  • @cosmomatic4280
    @cosmomatic4280 7 місяців тому

    Made In China?

  • @user-si8bi6ns3o
    @user-si8bi6ns3o 7 місяців тому

    да китайчата даже сейчас добротней делают

  • @kesemoi100
    @kesemoi100 8 місяців тому

    工場ちうごくなのね

  • @profdc9501
    @profdc9501 7 місяців тому

    Doesn't spot welding the core so that it doesn't unravel create a shorted turn?

    • @guytech7310
      @guytech7310 7 місяців тому

      I am pretty sure the heat treat process would make all of the lamination as one big lamination reducing over all core inductance & increasing eddy currents.

  • @widodopare4817
    @widodopare4817 7 місяців тому

    Harganya

  • @chlopen1
    @chlopen1 8 місяців тому

    when I see it, so I'd rather have a 50 year old JVC repaired

  • @premajwani1290
    @premajwani1290 8 місяців тому +3

    Better than British company

  • @jjtrades7186
    @jjtrades7186 7 місяців тому

    I ordered some of these for my computer but I can't figure out where they're supposed to go on the motherboard

  • @thomaslechner1622
    @thomaslechner1622 7 місяців тому +6

    Big heavy 50 /60 Hz transformer plus diode rectifier is 100 years old technology. Modern SMPS can deliver same power at less weight. Plus: It can have PFC, though this is often not implemented. Why would anybody still use 50 Hz transformer nowadays?

    • @fonebones88
      @fonebones88 7 місяців тому +10

      Reliability for the next 100 years?

    • @thomaslechner1622
      @thomaslechner1622 7 місяців тому +2

      ​@@fonebones88In both cases: Not even 25 years. Electrolytics get dry over time, regardless if it is an SMPS or old type PSU.

    • @fonebones88
      @fonebones88 7 місяців тому +1

      @@thomaslechner1622 I have seen some electrolytics that are still good enough even after 50 years. Of course 100 years is a bit far-fetched.

    • @TheYURIYG
      @TheYURIYG 7 місяців тому

      😂😂😂

    • @ipodtouchiscoollol
      @ipodtouchiscoollol 7 місяців тому

      @fonebones88 With contant cycling or just sitting idle in a warehouse

  • @huss03
    @huss03 10 місяців тому +10

    So, a video showing us how a Chinese transformer company makes the toroids that Rotel buys is meant to indicate what exactly? That there are Chinese companies who make toroids? If that's Rotel's "point of differentiation", I'd be interested to know what they save money on.

    • @poisonduckee
      @poisonduckee 9 місяців тому

      No Rotel owns a manufacturing plant in China. I think it's funny how a lot of people just assume if something is made in China it's bad.

    • @timothyhall7606
      @timothyhall7606 8 місяців тому +1

      Well said! Not sure of the heritage of this particular brand, but far too many companies claim their products are unique, when in actuality they just farm everything out to the cheapest producers in the far east.

    • @poisonduckee
      @poisonduckee 8 місяців тому +1

      @@timothyhall7606 it's not well said. This is Rotels factory. They own it. They operate it. Just because something's made in China doesn't mean it's cheap.

    • @jerrypartington3650
      @jerrypartington3650 7 місяців тому

      Rotel is a family owned company based in Taiwan, the transformers featured in the video are manufactured in house by Rotel.

    • @dirkwalther2354
      @dirkwalther2354 7 місяців тому

      ​@@poisonduckee Billig in den meisten Fällen schon - deshalb aber nicht unbedingt schlecht. Allerdings hat die Produktion in China schon an einigen Stellen ihre Schwächen, welche sich aber durch den Aufbau/die "Infrastruktur" der jeweiligen Betriebsführung deutlich reduzieren lassen - also un Russland oder in Afrika "hochwertig" zu Fertigen, das sollte in den meisten Fällen deutlich schwieriger sein. ;)

  • @Peter_Riis_DK
    @Peter_Riis_DK 7 місяців тому +1

    Perhaps it's common, but I don't like they weld on the core.

  • @harveysmith6337
    @harveysmith6337 9 місяців тому +2

    97% pure copper? I thought electrical copper was 99+%.

    • @johnstreet797
      @johnstreet797 8 місяців тому +1

      not in cryna

    • @lumpyfishgravy
      @lumpyfishgravy 8 місяців тому +1

      steel

    • @modorangeorge4991
      @modorangeorge4991 8 місяців тому

      97% copper will have worse electrical characteristics.

    • @dirkwalther2354
      @dirkwalther2354 7 місяців тому

      Ja, 97% ist für Elektro(lyt)kupfer ein sehr guter Witz - aber wenigstens sind sie in dem Video ehrlich bezüglich ihrer "Qualität. :D

    • @gibbogle
      @gibbogle 7 місяців тому

      @@johnstreet797 Taiwan is not China.

  • @user-nh8tc9po2l
    @user-nh8tc9po2l 8 місяців тому +3

    the cover is manufactered by Rotel and Coil in China 🤣🤣

    • @gibbogle
      @gibbogle 7 місяців тому

      Taiwan is not China.

    • @user-nh8tc9po2l
      @user-nh8tc9po2l 7 місяців тому

      @@gibbogle ist same 🤣🤣🤣🤣

    • @gibbogle
      @gibbogle 7 місяців тому

      @@user-nh8tc9po2l It is by no means the same. For example, Taiwan Semiconductor is one of the most advanced chip makers in the world, and makes high end CPUs. By contrast, only low end chips are made in China. TSMC quality is second to none.

    • @user-nh8tc9po2l
      @user-nh8tc9po2l 7 місяців тому

      @@gibbogle SAME 😂😂😂

  • @railgap
    @railgap 8 місяців тому +3

    "Over 97% pure copper" - wait, what?? I would hope it's higher than that!!

  • @cv507
    @cv507 8 місяців тому

    RinkcäirnträFF0€?? vv

  • @RASSTRIGIN
    @RASSTRIGIN 7 місяців тому

    ,👎😟 за фон

  • @v8snail
    @v8snail 8 місяців тому +1

    At least their high prices ensure the best quality tape is used to keep their testing instruments together...

  • @johnstreet797
    @johnstreet797 8 місяців тому +1

    another example of tofu dreg crynese manufacturing standards

    • @gibbogle
      @gibbogle 7 місяців тому

      Taiwan is not China, look at an atlas.

  • @funnyworld9784
    @funnyworld9784 13 годин тому

    MADE IN CHINA!

  • @Galova
    @Galova 7 місяців тому +1

    not very precisely made. windings are quite chaotic

  • @theaustralianconundrum
    @theaustralianconundrum 8 місяців тому +6

    The machinery is absolute rubbish! How old is this factory? Looks like it's from the 1940's.... BAD look Rotel.

    • @gibbogle
      @gibbogle 7 місяців тому +1

      You think there's something wrong with the transformers?

    • @theaustralianconundrum
      @theaustralianconundrum 7 місяців тому

      nope@@gibbogle

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    @syavagor 8 місяців тому

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