Mid level VS High End Riflescopes - Is it worth spending the extra money?

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  • Опубліковано 2 гру 2024

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  • @ColoradoAirgunner
    @ColoradoAirgunner 3 роки тому +1

    Very cool side by side comparison!

  • @georgedeedsnotwords2162
    @georgedeedsnotwords2162 3 роки тому +1

    Good to see your still kicking my friend ! Great video . Time for some shooting stuff !

  • @deanmorriss7184
    @deanmorriss7184 3 роки тому

    Gday .Nikko Stirling has great scopes and a great price. I can remember Nikko winning the Gold Medal for their glass some years back , I have never had a problem with them . Good video .cheers Dean

  • @Acutus3399
    @Acutus3399 3 роки тому +1

    Very nice comparison! Well done! May want to add the Helix cared to the other two.
    One of the ibguess compromises I have to make or prefer to make is I like having a lower power low end. I like having field of view for hunting. I think most scopes including Element are built on long range only or paper shooting. I'm really waiting for Element to come out with a 3-18 or at least 4-16.

  • @numizaairguns1373
    @numizaairguns1373 3 роки тому +2

    Great video... And im still like Titan for the money and it's very useful for Airguns in my case

  • @chrisfigueroa3361
    @chrisfigueroa3361 3 роки тому +2

    I have the titan and I've noticed that on 25 mag its kinda hard to get a good clear image or a good Parallax great video thanks for sharing

    •  3 роки тому

      Got same with my titan hard to focus on high zoom level.
      I been in contact with element optics in this subject so they now about it.
      I think the helix glass is more value for the money then the titans.
      I have compared my titan with my vortex strike eagle sfpx24 and in long range the vortex is clearer.
      But the titan is a keeper anyway!
      It is better in many other ways

    • @rowdog6376
      @rowdog6376 3 роки тому

      What brand of rings are you using and what's it mounted on? Thanks

    •  3 роки тому +1

      @@rowdog6376 iam using it with eaglevision 34mm rings on a impact

    • @commonsense5709
      @commonsense5709 2 роки тому +1

      Element scopes simply don't have good glass that's why you can't get a sharp image on high magnification. None of them do, not for the prices they charge if you compare other similar priced I'd bit cheaper scopes from other companies.

    • @chrisfigueroa3361
      @chrisfigueroa3361 2 роки тому +1

      @@commonsense5709 yup I have discovery VT 2 4.5 -18-44 it was like 180 bucks I think and better then my titan lol

  • @commonsense5709
    @commonsense5709 Рік тому

    It would be really nice to get a review on the new Bushnell Match Pro ED 5-30x56 that sells for MSRP $699.99. VS the Element Titan specifically both set at 25x magnification to be fair. The new Bushnell Match Pro ED is lighter at 32oz and has 30mils/103moa elevation and a 1st and 2nd rotation elevation turret indicator. It is also made in China just like the Element Titan. Its probably also clearer than the Element Nexus specifically when compared up to 20x.

  • @commonsense5709
    @commonsense5709 2 роки тому

    This is an excellent topic to discuss.
    We recently did a head to head comparison between the $450 Arken EP5 5-25x56 vs the $1500 Element Nexus 5-20x50 specifically at 5-20x magnification and they both were surprisingly close. It was a toss up which had nicer image quality between both of these scopes with more than a $1000 price difference between them. The turrets felt noticeably better with the Arken EP5 and had a lot more elevation adjustment (EP5 106moa vs 78moa Nexus based on our actual testing). The zero stop felt more positive on the EP5. The EP5 was around 7oz heavier. Both scopes have lifetime warranties. Is the Nexus worth paying more than triple the price of the Arken EP5 with the $1050 price difference? We honestly don't think so.
    When we compared the $450 Arken EP5 5-25x56 to the $800 Element Titan 5-25x56 the image quality were very similar throughout their entire magnification range with edge going to the EP5 up to 22x. The Arken EP5 turret feel were superior compared to the Titan and had more elevation travel at 107moa EP5 vs 89moa Titan. Yes, the second test translated to 107moa. The zero stop felt more positive on the Arken EP5 as well. They both have very similar weighs. Both have lifetime warranties. Is the Element Titan worth paying almost double the price of the Arken EP5 with the $350 price difference? We honestly don't think so and considering both of these scopes are made in China.
    We can't recommend the $299 Arken SH4 6-24x50 due to sub par glass quality that is simply not good enough to support 24x magnification however the $289 4-16x50 SH4 is a better option and the glass is good enough and is a superior scope in every aspects (glass, turrets, total elevation travel and is almost $200 cheaper than the Elements Helix and also made in China) in this magnification.
    We look forward to testing the new 30mm light weight $380 and $400 Arken EPL4s head to head against the Element Helix at a later date when they become available. The specs on paper are extremely close for the 6-24x50 models and hopefully the new Arken EPL4 has a much better more forgiving eye box than the Element Helix.

  • @CyclopsJoeVideos
    @CyclopsJoeVideos 3 роки тому +1

    Great Video Man , new subscriber here 🍻

  • @tyroneclarke1666
    @tyroneclarke1666 3 роки тому

    Thank you for the video. I would rather spend more money on quality. Especially for something you’ll keep and take care of for years. Keep the videos coming mate. Cheers

  • @rowdog6376
    @rowdog6376 3 роки тому

    Nice one mate. Giles did a good one on the two Helix scopes yesterday. In my case big and heavy is good due to being prone 99% of the time.

  • @yvessehnaoui3532
    @yvessehnaoui3532 3 роки тому +3

    High end should mean s&b, nf, etc...

  • @jimhoffman5103
    @jimhoffman5103 3 роки тому

    I shot a Queens with a modern Vortex Strike Eagle FFP. The third day was at 800m. Put it this way; it was not the scope that cost me the points.

  • @MrTyroneweaver
    @MrTyroneweaver 3 роки тому

    Arnold owns a home here in Idaho. Occasionally he is spotted fishing around the Sun Valley, Ketchum area. I own a Element Helix mounted on a venturi avenger
    At 70 yards Strelok pro said 29 clicks up, and I hit that pigeon dead center

  • @rzage1
    @rzage1 3 роки тому

    I like my Titan but one thing I don’t like is the extra weight and size . BTW I like your haircut , got to get one myself !!!

  • @Ace-wu4zm
    @Ace-wu4zm Рік тому

    Can you do the writing clarity on your drink bottle with the the element nexus 5-20x50 and your schmidt and bender, and maybe some pine needles comparison test too 🌲😂

  • @paulclarkejr.7046
    @paulclarkejr.7046 3 роки тому

    Good stuff!

  • @peteralexben
    @peteralexben 3 роки тому

    on a airgun is there realy a need for a scope of 50 mm or bigger sniper scope ,its more in the 22lr range ,150 meters target, i think the adjustments and reproducibility/repeatabilty of the startingpoint/tracking with turrets ,parallax and eyefocus and sharp crosshairs are more important then the super brilliant picture . did you find finaly a good haircutter :-)

  • @PitFitHuntFan
    @PitFitHuntFan 3 роки тому +1

    If you can afford it why not. Even if you can’t afford it, if you are into long range shooting the higher end scopes maybe the scope for you. 😁

  • @baobo67
    @baobo67 3 роки тому

    Good Vid. A couple of comparisons at lower powers would have been good. Maybe their lowest and 5x 9x 12x. Cheers.

  • @Elfin4
    @Elfin4 3 роки тому

    Happy haircut , nice and tight on the back and sides !!

  • @petemulhearn7787
    @petemulhearn7787 3 роки тому +1

    The required quality of scope glass reduces with the age of the shooter :-)

  • @17hmr243
    @17hmr243 3 роки тому

    elements opt - are they rated for brake barrel springers?

    • @rowdog6376
      @rowdog6376 3 роки тому

      Apparently and up to 50bmg

  • @fsend9191
    @fsend9191 3 роки тому

    I prefer fixed focal length.

  • @stedyone1090
    @stedyone1090 3 роки тому +1

    Skullduggery afoot.
    😆 lol

  • @ilveverythingdaft
    @ilveverythingdaft 3 роки тому

    Wouldn't mind a element scope just can't afford 1 with none of the spendy foldy stuff

  • @nekeke1
    @nekeke1 3 роки тому

    Value= Arken Optics all the way.

  • @happyface7342
    @happyface7342 3 роки тому

    👍👍👍👍👍👍👍

  • @steviebby
    @steviebby 3 роки тому

    I wouldn’t call a bushnell scope high end no matter what price they put on it..

  • @davidhollingdale3548
    @davidhollingdale3548 3 роки тому

    March V S&B >

  • @hotchihuahua1546
    @hotchihuahua1546 3 роки тому

    Cheap or expensive , if it takes abuse and stays on zero I’m sure the I would be satisfied !

  • @benoliver619
    @benoliver619 3 роки тому

    Ive herd and seen element optics isn't up too par with lower priced optics. Hey some heads up Australia prices are over 3xs more then in the states. 2 different pics no comparison. Take the same pic with both then you can make a comparison. I hope people don't help you much. Now this is confusing to me how can a country that bans guns allows people to shoot? Sorry raised with guns. If it goes bang ive shot it or if you have to pull it ive shot it. I'm in the states not overseas.

    • @commonsense5709
      @commonsense5709 2 роки тому

      You heard correctly. Their success is based on genius marketing like this one you're watching here and many buyers not knowing any better to take a good look at other similarly priced if not cheaper brands to see for themselves.

    • @commonsense5709
      @commonsense5709 2 роки тому

      Check out the Arken EP line of scopes. The EP5 currently at $449 is almost half the cost of the Titan and they are also made in China just like the Titan and Helix. Their new lighter weight Arken EPL series look promising for $379 and $399 and have 10 yard minimum close focus and are under 24oz. I wouldn't recommend the SH4 unless it's specifically the 4-16x50 for $289. Element brand scopes are way too overpriced IMHO.

  • @FxFanBoy
    @FxFanBoy 3 роки тому

    You should pay attention to your hands 🙌. Your hands say you are lieying 🤷‍♂️ and eyes.

  • @Hipporider
    @Hipporider 3 роки тому

    Not a fan of the repetitive background music, I have to say

    • @meatheadmarksman2013
      @meatheadmarksman2013  3 роки тому

      Yeah it's ever so slightly too loud... my bad

    • @christhomas4260
      @christhomas4260 3 роки тому

      Is the Helix FFP on the website

    • @meatheadmarksman2013
      @meatheadmarksman2013  3 роки тому

      @@christhomas4260 i dont think so, not yet but if you email or call and ask your local dealer they are in stock

    • @christhomas4260
      @christhomas4260 3 роки тому

      @@meatheadmarksman2013 No prop will do. Just thought you mentioned they have the FFP ready in stock