I’m one of the original early days petrol heads, I’ve done a couple of 308 to 355 strokers, first one went into my LH Torana. I bought Scat 9000 cast crank, I then hobbled together good quality parts, the Torana went really well, being the petrol head that I was I wasn’t satisfied. The next stroker I built I went the whole hog I bought a forged steel scat stroker kit, big sold roller cam, tie bar solid lifters,aluminum cylinder heads comp roller rockers, billet steel main caps, main cap girdle, hi volume sump, a. Fully adjustable timing gears, electric fuel pump, electric water pump, hi rise air gap manifold, 750 DP Holly carby and an MSD ignition system. The first motor was pretty cheap to build the parts cost me about $3 &1/2 grand plus a grand for machining I’ve no idea of the HP but it went pretty good I’d say around 300HP. I sold that motor I wished I hadn’t, it was an ideal street motor and for 41/2 Gand it was for me a cheap build so go stroker if you can do it cheap enough. Go for a pair of VN style cylinder heads, you can pick them up pretty cheap if you look around. If you want the specs of that cheap motor I’m quite happy to give them to you. The last stroker cost me 81/2grand but f#@k me did it go, I didn’t have it dyno’d but we figured around 550HP but I’m sure you don’t want to spend 81/2 grand.
thanks for the details mate, i love hearing about other peoples builds and what they acheive. im actually looking to spend around the 10k figure for the engine, machining and parts start to add up in todays world. definitely running VN heads / manifold, Scat stroker kit but not sure what crank size to run yet. still need to sit down and work through it, ive sat down with the trans builder. thanks watching the channel mate apricate it
Get ready to buy a lot of blocks, unless you are lucky. In the finishing stages of a mildly hot 355 and i am 6 blocks in to find one that is good enough, at 800 to 1000 each to buy, and 700 a pop to hot tank/crack test, measure and sonic, you can see why there is a great reason that everyone goes LS.......These Holden blocks are fcking hard work mate. 450hp is going to be very hard with a stock stroke, a 450hp 355 on VN heads is quite easy depending on which camshaft you want and how much comp you can live with.
@@goldshiftgarage No worries. Hopefully the block is a decently low bore to allow you to get away with 30 or 40 thou over, I already have so much invested in Dash 3's or else i would be putting efi heads on in a heartbeat. If you dont mind short rear gears and a decent stall, an f288, mid 11s static comp, and even mildly ported efi heads will see any decently put together 355 up around 500hp.
Years ago i got my 5ltr stroked to 355ci with Harrop stroker crank VN heads just a mild cam and was a very big difference in power to a 5ltr engine and wasnt to bad on fuel either.
if there is 1 engine I know its the 308, I've built a couple of the fastest in 1998 till 2003 we race the fast 308 in the country national record holder at 9'96 138mph stock crank and also built 1 of the fastest 355's went 9.40 142mph and in 1995 I race a 327 stroker which went 11.5 at 121mp back when fast street cars were making 12's, what a lot of people dont know that the volermetic efficiency of the 308 killed 350 chev VE, the 1st was an off set grind crank to take it out to 327 using sj chev rods, ported heads, speedpro forged pistons, crane cc288 cam you looking at about 480hp, the 308 we raced made 598hp with b-cast heads nitrited standard 253 crank there lighter, BME ultra light alloy rods, custom made JE pistons, TLF custom crane cam Ford lifters, 2.02/1.60 5/16 Valves titanium retainers, heads mods and porting by Peter Micheals, crane D-V springs, crane Gold roller rockers and stand girtle, fully ported stripmaster single plane manifold, 900cfm Braswell methanol carbi, mad crank trigger, 643hp with VN EFI heads with same work, the 355 688hp harrop lighten 355 crank, BME Utra light 6" aluminium rods, custom made JE pistons, custom 4 bolt block, -9 Yella Terra alloy heads, ported by Peter Michaels, Brodix satellite seats 2.05/1.60 5/16" valves, crane d springs titanium retainers and locks,Yella Terra shaft roller rocker, ported strip Master manifold, Barry Grant methanol gold claw carbi, custom TLF Custom grind Crane cam, ford 351 lifters, there's obviously more done in block work but thats the main componets I've had more 308's than you can poke a stick we gave away racing when I broke my back and spent 10years recovering and rehab, my newest is a 427 LSX Turbo, if they never made LS's I would still be building killa 308's I love them I would build a 355 yells Terra -9 heads I would buy Harrop gear and there manifolds are a good thing
thanks for all the info mate, i enjoyed reading all the specs n details you provided. sorry to here about your accident, backs take a long time to repair - i also have a rotten back ( 3 surgeries ) i hit the gym to stay strong these days. i am thinking VN CNC EFI heads, high rise manifold - not sure on the crank size as yet but will determine that when i chose the stroker kit - do you rate Skat cranks at all or would a Crane crank be a better option? thanks for watching mate, hope your enjoying the build so far, i have around 20 shed build built cars for the 6pack challenge race day. should be a fun day out
Looks like someone has been in there before, they never came with Yella terra rockers, be interesting to see what the bores look like. Thought about going down the stroker path myself as mine needs a rebore anyway, just depends on your budget and how much power you want. 🍻
someone has definitely been there before, im like you - very interested in the piston / bore size. im away at work atm but will see what we have when i get home 👍
@@goldshiftgarage330 is a great setup. My current, soon to be replaced setup is a 333, uses a small journal rod and an SBC slug. Definitely a half hot thing but a 355 has a fair bit more power potential at a given rpm..
355 kit with 10.5-11 to 1 compression pistons and "VT" heads. I have Harrop inlet manifold on mine, don't be shy with the cam and exhaust system from the heads back🤑
Ha ha I doubt VGG actually licks it but hey at least ya know what it tastes like now ha ha. I've got a Chev Pattern 308 (Now 355) but kept with the original heads (heavily ported etc) bolted up to a TH350 Built by Sam at SA Race in my VL. Would take way too long to list everything, enjoying the vids, cheers. Leo.
Not sure if you want to stay loyal to the the Iron Lion but in reality there are limits whilst running up a serious bill for only marginal results, perhaps in the 80's and 90's this was the go but today an LS conversion is the way to go where you are assured to leave the Foulcan in your wake
I’m one of the original early days petrol heads, I’ve done a couple of 308 to 355 strokers, first one went into my LH Torana. I bought Scat 9000 cast crank, I then hobbled together good quality parts, the Torana went really well, being the petrol head that I was I wasn’t satisfied. The next stroker I built I went the whole hog I bought a forged steel scat stroker kit, big sold roller cam, tie bar solid lifters,aluminum cylinder heads comp roller rockers, billet steel main caps, main cap girdle, hi volume sump, a. Fully adjustable timing gears, electric fuel pump, electric water pump, hi rise air gap manifold, 750 DP Holly carby and an MSD ignition system. The first motor was pretty cheap to build the parts cost me about $3 &1/2 grand plus a grand for machining I’ve no idea of the HP but it went pretty good I’d say around 300HP. I sold that motor I wished I hadn’t, it was an ideal street motor and for 41/2 Gand it was for me a cheap build so go stroker if you can do it cheap enough. Go for a pair of VN style cylinder heads, you can pick them up pretty cheap if you look around. If you want the specs of that cheap motor I’m quite happy to give them to you. The last stroker cost me 81/2grand but f#@k me did it go, I didn’t have it dyno’d but we figured around 550HP but I’m sure you don’t want to spend 81/2 grand.
thanks for the details mate, i love hearing about other peoples builds and what they acheive. im actually looking to spend around the 10k figure for the engine, machining and parts start to add up in todays world. definitely running VN heads / manifold, Scat stroker kit but not sure what crank size to run yet. still need to sit down and work through it, ive sat down with the trans builder. thanks watching the channel mate apricate it
@@goldshiftgarage make sure you use a machinist that knows what he’s doing there’s plenty of them out there so do your research.
Doesn't matter if you stroke it... still gonna beat ya... if I ever get it finished! Another great vid Lee! 🤘🍻
its going to be a great race! Holden all day long
#FordPowaaaah
@@TwistedMetalCustoms damn straight!!
@@goldshiftgarage yeah baby!!
@@TwistedMetalCustoms 😁🤣🤣
If putting vn heads on maybe look at direct ejection, more reliable
Great vid,
Keep up the good work 👍🏼
thanks for watching, happy you enjoyed it 👍
Get ready to buy a lot of blocks, unless you are lucky. In the finishing stages of a mildly hot 355 and i am 6 blocks in to find one that is good enough, at 800 to 1000 each to buy, and 700 a pop to hot tank/crack test, measure and sonic, you can see why there is a great reason that everyone goes LS.......These Holden blocks are fcking hard work mate.
450hp is going to be very hard with a stock stroke, a 450hp 355 on VN heads is quite easy depending on which camshaft you want and how much comp you can live with.
thats some good advice thanks mate, i agree the VN head 355 is probably my best option.
@@goldshiftgarage No worries. Hopefully the block is a decently low bore to allow you to get away with 30 or 40 thou over, I already have so much invested in Dash 3's or else i would be putting efi heads on in a heartbeat. If you dont mind short rear gears and a decent stall, an f288, mid 11s static comp, and even mildly ported efi heads will see any decently put together 355 up around 500hp.
Years ago i got my 5ltr stroked to 355ci with Harrop stroker crank VN heads just a mild cam and was a very big difference in power to a 5ltr engine and wasnt to bad on fuel either.
im looking fwd to the power side of the build, VN heads is a good option. thanks for the comment it gives me something to think about 👍
if i could build my 355 again i would go with vn style heads and a full roller set up spend the money once and do it right the first time ;)
i think your 100% correct, do it properly once!
Please don't stroke it.leave it 1:54 a 308 ,nice and original
C.o.m.e racing do a 383 kit for these
thanks for the info mate, i will look into that option 👍
Someone in the area near Newcastle just got a Gen 3 5.7 litre Chevrolet LS1 V8 engine bolted into their WB Holden Statesman !
that would be a weapon of a ute!
if there is 1 engine I know its the 308, I've built a couple of the fastest in 1998 till 2003 we race the fast 308 in the country national record holder at 9'96 138mph stock crank and also built 1 of the fastest 355's went 9.40 142mph and in 1995 I race a 327 stroker which went 11.5 at 121mp back when fast street cars were making 12's, what a lot of people dont know that the volermetic efficiency of the 308 killed 350 chev VE, the 1st was an off set grind crank to take it out to 327 using sj chev rods, ported heads, speedpro forged pistons, crane cc288 cam you looking at about 480hp,
the 308 we raced made 598hp with b-cast heads nitrited standard 253 crank there lighter, BME ultra light alloy rods, custom made JE pistons, TLF custom crane cam Ford lifters, 2.02/1.60 5/16 Valves titanium retainers, heads mods and porting by Peter Micheals, crane D-V springs, crane Gold roller rockers and stand girtle, fully ported stripmaster single plane manifold, 900cfm Braswell methanol carbi, mad crank trigger, 643hp with VN EFI heads with same work,
the 355 688hp harrop lighten 355 crank, BME Utra light 6" aluminium rods, custom made JE pistons, custom 4 bolt block, -9 Yella Terra alloy heads, ported by Peter Michaels, Brodix satellite seats 2.05/1.60 5/16" valves, crane d springs titanium retainers and locks,Yella Terra shaft roller rocker, ported strip Master manifold, Barry Grant methanol gold claw carbi, custom TLF Custom grind Crane cam, ford 351 lifters, there's obviously more done in block work but thats the main componets I've had more 308's than you can poke a stick we gave away racing when I broke my back and spent 10years recovering and rehab, my newest is a 427 LSX Turbo, if they never made LS's I would still be building killa 308's I love them
I would build a 355 yells Terra -9 heads I would buy Harrop gear and there manifolds are a good thing
thanks for all the info mate, i enjoyed reading all the specs n details you provided. sorry to here about your accident, backs take a long time to repair - i also have a rotten back ( 3 surgeries ) i hit the gym to stay strong these days.
i am thinking VN CNC EFI heads, high rise manifold - not sure on the crank size as yet but will determine that when i chose the stroker kit - do you rate Skat cranks at all or would a Crane crank be a better option?
thanks for watching mate, hope your enjoying the build so far, i have around 20 shed build built cars for the 6pack challenge race day. should be a fun day out
Looks like someone has been in there before, they never came with Yella terra rockers, be interesting to see what the bores look like. Thought about going down the stroker path myself as mine needs a rebore anyway, just depends on your budget and how much power you want. 🍻
someone has definitely been there before, im like you - very interested in the piston / bore size. im away at work atm but will see what we have when i get home 👍
355 all the way 30% more torque . Or old skool 330 combo offset ground stnd crank with hemi rods will rev to 7k crane 288 grind solid cam
@@chadlantry858 im leaning towards the 355 for sure but this 330 combo has me interested, will do some research on it - cheers for that
@@goldshiftgarage330 is a great setup. My current, soon to be replaced setup is a 333, uses a small journal rod and an SBC slug. Definitely a half hot thing but a 355 has a fair bit more power potential at a given rpm..
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Thanks for watching Tim, hope you enjoyed it 👍
355 kit with 10.5-11 to 1 compression pistons and "VT" heads. I have Harrop inlet manifold on mine, don't be shy with the cam and exhaust system from the heads back🤑
Ha ha I doubt VGG actually licks it but hey at least ya know what it tastes like now ha ha. I've got a Chev Pattern 308 (Now 355) but kept with the original heads (heavily ported etc) bolted up to a TH350 Built by Sam at SA Race in my VL. Would take way too long to list everything, enjoying the vids, cheers. Leo.
haha my 440bb engine oil smelt like KFC!! but I still wasn't game to taste it bahaha, well done mate!
it was horrid!! never again will i taste oil hahaha
Not sure if you want to stay loyal to the the Iron Lion but in reality there are limits whilst running up a serious bill for only marginal results, perhaps in the 80's and 90's this was the go but today an LS conversion is the way to go where you are assured to leave the Foulcan in your wake
Go the 355 vn heads ported 10.5 comp 750 dp crane 280 soild sick air gap manifold and good dizzy should be a beast