That is what I think!!! I thought locomotives were smaller when I never railfanned, but the first station I railfanned at ever was Riverside Downtown, and I saw how big the Rotems and F59's and MP35's were!! I even saw a a bunch of GEVO's, a Genset, and a GP60M-3! They are huge man.
I'll add my two cents not directed to you personally but, as a general statement demonstrating nuances of railroading. I'll phrase it the way you did. You have no perspective of how large these locomotives are till you have to get 15 of them together in the yard, hook all of the air hoses and, do a consist air brake test and, then take them to another place in the yard. Oh, i forgot, and switch a few of them out in the correct order. Hours later you are done just getting to power together. Days like that make for a very long day.
My fondest memories of living in Southern California was hanging out in my car on the Pepper Avenue bridge on the East end of this yard; watching trains and eating a Double-Double from In-N-Out Burger. Heaven!
Wow, great video. I worked there when it was brand spanking new back in 1973 when it was the SP yard. It was pretty state of the art at that time. The crest units used to have what we called a slug for dynamic braking, I believe, between two engines. Seems like they were 2800 EMDs. I could be wrong.
Yes, those are snoot nosed SD40-2's. No, the 3rd unit is not an SD40-2. It's an SD38-2 that was built for SP back in the day specifically for hump service.
That was really interesting. I would jump at the chance to go on a tour like that. From what I can see UP (and BNSF) must have got the cleanest looking locomotives around.
Visited this yard in 97 I asked if there was someone who could show me around the facilities or a small tour of the loco shed The guy I spoke to told me that it wouldn’t be possible, but! If it were, he’d be the guy to do the job, glad to see it’s happened Spent the day at Pepper Ave Bridge
Intereseting .. Love the SD90 that was in the shop - i know it was 7 years ago but i thought UP had Sold all the SD90s due to mechanical issues .. and the yard is massive compared to what i have seen.. great vid
In 1974 the N&S blew up the rail yard in Decatur Illinois when a butane car jumped the coupler and punctured the car. Something to remember when humping cars that fast.
@MiNameIsNash Federal Railroald Admin. Whenever there's a wreck, FRA investigates the incident to see who's at fault, mechanical or human factor, sort of what the Highway Patrol or local police do when an accident occurs. These two units were involved with the wreck at Chatsworth and currently there's two units that were involved in the wreck at Fontana.
Nice to see the shops, from inside. Do you know the story about the engines that were covered up? I've been thru the Santa Fe (now BNSF) shops back in the 80's in Kansas City, KS.
Nice vid, it's sumthing a lot of us railfans that don't have time to get out n get the chance to see the real action being performed. One thing that sum people stated in your vid was the autoracks were being humped, ladies n gentlemen if you're watching trains go by n you look @ the labels what does it say, DO NOT HUMP! Autoracks r 2 long 2 hump.
Well....they are not too long to hump i've done it loaded and empty. The real problem is the drawbar, either on the rack or the car it will tie too, can possibly jar off center thus, causing a derailment by crossed drawbar coupling. the other thing is because those vehicles are high value loads. If i'm not mistaken at work we ar kicking autos again. I've seen them humped with and without damage. Sometimes when they hit too hard the vehicles jump off or push the wheel chocks and the vehicles slide toward or, into the door of the car on the end the car where they impact.
i heard this was the last rail yard in the usa somewhere but i think it was a typo and mint biggest because there still some pretty big rail yards close to where i live that do all the things this rail yard does
A rail yard, railway yard or railroad yard is the US term for a complex series of railroad tracks for storing, sorting, or loading/unloading, railroadcars and/or locomotives. Railroad yards have many tracks in parallel for keeping rolling stock stored off the mainline, so that they do not obstruct the flow of traffic. So by that definition rail yards will never go away as long as there are trains.
nice video singwith why did they send the RCLs down the hump they normaly stay on it when they are humping cars. I have never seen the RCLs them selves go down the hump normaly it is the Trim RCLs who are at the bottom of the hump.
saw two things i didn't think they did!!! One: thought railroads didn't hump autoracks and Two: didn't think they took the engines over the hump like that lol but I haven't seen a lot of hump yard action so maybe its just me not having enough experience lol
Some engines have a snow plow on them which the retarders will catch on them that is why those don't go over the hump. The newer retarders might not have that issue if i'm not mistaken.
I know they're under control, but there is something inherently wrong about seeing a rail car just coasting down hill, lazily coasting to where they need to go. Very cool, but just so strange.
Humps usually have high gradients as part of their design, and the concern for intermodal cars is that they will get stuck. Because intermodal cars are depressed (their floor is lower than that of a standard railcar), there is a better chance for the wells to touch the rails and "bottom out" (the well is touching the rails, but the wheels aren't).
I remember pulling pins on the hump. We had a "tote board" that told you whether to cut 1 or 2 cars. You had to be on your toes if you had to "walk a pin" all the way and look up and see you've got two piggybacks coming. You had to haul ass back or the first piggy would pull out your slack. I also remember a time that the retarders were letting some cars just fly through and actually pushed a few cars through at the trim end. Some new wheels from Japan had a coating like Teflon or something
Ahh...yes the slack rolls out. When you miss you have to back up stop and time it to get the pin while keeping the car balanced at the breaking point so it will roll downhill . We're veterans. LOL
What is it that is squeeling like a pig in a blender every time a car gets cut loose on a hump? The NS Yard in Elkhart Indiana has a hump and damn does that squeeling get annoying quick. Are they brakes set in the track to prevent the car from flying out of control or something?
I think they might have housed some electronics back in the day. All i see in them now is a longer bathroom (in cab access) and and an empty room that is accessed from outside the conductor's side.
Can someone please tell me what the 2 small exhaust stacks are in front of the windshield? Usualy on both sides of the short nose. Seems that older type locos only have one. They are shown at 3:18. Thanks.
Sand filler access hatch. Interesting you mention that. I was on a loco two and a half weeks ago when the mechanic had to fill the loco with sand. That hasn't happend to me in a long time.
The hump itself gets cars up to speed around 10-15mph then a set of automated rails called retarders slow the car down automatically classifies it and computer knows where the car is going along with the guy in the hump tower.
@@Scorges1 Thanks for the reply. I understand what your saying and that makes since, but how can the cars move without the airline attached? There must be a way to keep the brakes unlocked once the cars are separated from each other without the air. It's always been a mystery to me.
@@wayned1807 Great mystery indeed. However A "simple" explanation of a car's brakes is that the air reservoir on a rail car actually has two sides to it, service and emergency. BOTH are normally pressured up for movement. Controlled pressure reduction on the service lines applies the car brakes due to the pressure present in the service portion of the reservoir. When disconnected from a train, the service side of the reservoir releases all air pressure and the emergency air pressure holds the brakes at full application. This portion of air can be bled off (leak off) which releases the brakes and allows the car to free roll if no hand brakes are set, which is what allows a hump yard to work.
@@Scorges1 Thanks, that is the answer I was looking for and suspected all along but wanted some kinda explanation. I stopped at the North Platt Bailey yard once and wondered ever since how that worked.
@@wayned1807 Hope you enjoyed Bailey Yard. They just recently closed the east hump, looks like a place now for extra locomotives and extra cars. They will reopen it soon I'm sure once business picks up again hopefully soon. Also you are very welcome
Fascinating video. You have no perspective of how large these locomotives are until you see them in a setting like this video.
That is what I think!!! I thought locomotives were smaller when I never railfanned, but the first station I railfanned at ever was Riverside Downtown, and I saw how big the Rotems and F59's and MP35's were!! I even saw a a bunch of GEVO's, a Genset, and a GP60M-3! They are huge man.
I'll add my two cents not directed to you personally but, as a general statement demonstrating nuances of railroading. I'll phrase it the way you did. You have no perspective of how large these locomotives are till you have to get 15 of them together in the yard, hook all of the air hoses and, do a consist air brake test and, then take them to another place in the yard. Oh, i forgot, and switch a few of them out in the correct order. Hours later you are done just getting to power together. Days like that make for a very long day.
THATS FREAKIN AWESOME DUDE, THIS IS GOING RIGHT TO MY FAVORITES
My fondest memories of living in Southern California was hanging out in my car on the Pepper Avenue bridge on the East end of this yard; watching trains and eating a Double-Double from In-N-Out Burger. Heaven!
If it's the noise I think you're talking about, then that's the spitter valves. They're used to drain the water from the air tanks.
Wow, great video. I worked there when it was brand spanking new back in 1973 when it was the SP yard. It was pretty state of the art at that time. The crest units used to have what we called a slug for dynamic braking, I believe, between two engines. Seems like they were 2800 EMDs. I could be wrong.
So awesome even if I just digging holes with a shovel in the rail yard I'd be happy just being around locomotives I've always loved trains
One of your best videos Snuffy!, West Colton looks very busy and the workshops too 5* and favorites
Yes, those are snoot nosed SD40-2's. No, the 3rd unit is not an SD40-2. It's an SD38-2 that was built for SP back in the day specifically for hump service.
Good video. Humping cars into a class yard. Ive seen it done thousands of times, but never got the chance to video it.
I've done a thousand times. LOL.
That was really interesting. I would jump at the chance to go on a tour like that. From what I can see UP (and BNSF) must have got the cleanest looking locomotives around.
Exterior only maybe but, inside one of them is another story. Every BN unit iv'e been in has been way cleaner than any up locomotive ive been in.
Visited this yard in 97 I asked if there was someone who could show me around the facilities or a small tour of the loco shed
The guy I spoke to told me that it wouldn’t be possible, but! If it were, he’d be the guy to do the job, glad to see it’s happened
Spent the day at Pepper Ave Bridge
Awesome Video Snuffy
Congratulations you got lucky amigo! I've been there on the other side of the road.
fine video enjoyed we have a hump yard in houston like this man u caught lots of action
Intereseting .. Love the SD90 that was in the shop - i know it was 7 years ago but i thought UP had Sold all the SD90s due to mechanical issues .. and the yard is massive compared to what i have seen.. great vid
simply amazing...wish i live closer ....great work man
Very cool! I got to see that in North Platte from the Golden Spike tower. It is fun to watch!
Awesome video!! Thanks for posting!!!
wow , you got to film in the train house ....great ! love watching these videos.
Man, I'm jealous!! Nice one!
Thats better than a Pentrex film, good job, thanks for the informative post.
Awesome video Snuffy!!!!!!
In 1974 the N&S blew up the rail yard in Decatur Illinois when a butane car jumped the coupler and punctured the car.
Something to remember when humping cars that fast.
And then Leonard Nimoy made that tank car safety video.
That's amazing! Great footage and video!
Love US LOCO ,Brilliant ❤️🤗🤝👍
It's funny to see the hump power go into the bowl to fish a mistake out that would otherwise take forever for the trim job to find.
Great vid!! I wish I could get a tour like that at Englewood!!
@MiNameIsNash those were units that were involved in a crash. They were covered up due to FRA inspection.
@MiNameIsNash Federal Railroald Admin. Whenever there's a wreck, FRA investigates the incident to see who's at fault, mechanical or human factor, sort of what the Highway Patrol or local police do when an accident occurs. These two units were involved with the wreck at Chatsworth and currently there's two units that were involved in the wreck at Fontana.
You're welcome and thank you for sharing.
Awesome video mate
Excellent amazing video! Great 5*****
I've never seen a video like this, coolio!!! bravo
AWESOME video!
@ T doubleU:
Those cars are called "auto racks". They are used to transport automobiles.
Wow. Thanks for that inside look, little Train Buddy! (I'm serious.)
Lucky! Great video!
@jerry91a- Not quite. 3206 and 3202 are SD40-2's. 833 is an SD38-2 though.
great video dude.
Amazing video!
ooh covered units. A sign of new heritage units!
Chatsworth head on engines.
That was fantastic, thanks.
Great video.
awesome video mate!
Nice video !
Just like letters being sorted out in a post-office. :-)
But with RR Tracks
Or stocking grocery store shelves.
Those "slugs" last I heard, ended up in Denver (I started work at the service tracks there at WC in 3/2000) when they were being phased out
@singwith LOL sometimes they have the power stay at the top and they leave the trim engines at the bottom
yea ive seen this its off of the I-10 east right side. ive seen it many times going to arizona
I have a model of that same SD90MAC #8030! haha! Awesome video!
Killer Footage A+, Thanks!
Beautiful
Super materiał ciekawe te amerykańskie potwory
Why were those units at the end covered with tarps? Wrecks? Nice video!
Could be something like the CNW 1995 before they painted it. Or perhaps an export unit. I've seen them shipped like that.
if i was there i would be like "omg theres to much going on at once! what do i video tape?" sweet vid
Nice to see the shops, from inside. Do you know the story about the engines that were covered up? I've been thru the Santa Fe (now BNSF) shops back in the 80's in Kansas City, KS.
I believe those were the 2 engines involved in the Chatsworth collision.
Nice vid, it's sumthing a lot of us railfans that don't have time to get out n get the chance to see the real action being performed. One thing that sum people stated in your vid was the autoracks were being humped, ladies n gentlemen if you're watching trains go by n you look @ the labels what does it say, DO NOT HUMP! Autoracks r 2 long 2 hump.
I love this part here it's coil
Well....they are not too long to hump i've done it loaded and empty. The real problem is the drawbar, either on the rack or the car it will tie too, can possibly jar off center thus, causing a derailment by crossed drawbar coupling. the other thing is because those vehicles are high value loads. If i'm not mistaken at work we ar kicking autos again. I've seen them humped with and without damage. Sometimes when they hit too hard the vehicles jump off or push the wheel chocks and the vehicles slide toward or, into the door of the car on the end the car where they impact.
Now that's cool!
Sooper video! Like!
i heard this was the last rail yard in the usa somewhere but i think it was a typo and mint biggest because there still some pretty big rail yards close to where i live that do all the things this rail yard does
A rail yard, railway yard or railroad yard is the US term for a complex series of railroad tracks for storing, sorting, or loading/unloading, railroadcars and/or locomotives. Railroad yards have many tracks in parallel for keeping rolling stock stored off the mainline, so that they do not obstruct the flow of traffic. So by that definition rail yards will never go away as long as there are trains.
This one is big, but it’s not the biggest. The largest railyard is in North Platte Nebraska at the Union Pacific’s Bailey Yard.
nice video singwith why did they send the RCLs down the hump they normaly stay on it when they are humping cars. I have never seen the RCLs them selves go down the hump normaly it is the Trim RCLs who are at the bottom of the hump.
I've done it. Not at this yard. We typically have to go in the bowl to get in wrong cars or pull a track back up the hill to re-hump it
If only we had a virtual railfan on the railyards
P.S. how are you able to get free access into the railyard
This is my dream in a video
Ha ha ha I luved that runaway car scene in the beginning
+The Diamond Tree films // tone does it \\ Those are not runaway cars.
It's called a hump
Its called a 'Hump Yard.'
and its all ways in control
saw two things i didn't think they did!!! One: thought railroads didn't hump autoracks and Two: didn't think they took the engines over the hump like that lol but I haven't seen a lot of hump yard action so maybe its just me not having enough experience lol
Some engines have a snow plow on them which the retarders will catch on them that is why those don't go over the hump. The newer retarders might not have that issue if i'm not mistaken.
This is so cool... So, can you just visit the engine repair place? Or do you have to have a special pass?
I know they're under control, but there is something inherently wrong about seeing a rail car just coasting down hill, lazily coasting to where they need to go.
Very cool, but just so strange.
I'd rather see it in the yard than on the mainline. I've heard scary stories.
Get on over here!!!!!!!!!
Cool
2:25 wow remote control UP locomotives! Awesome!
#jobkiller
Nice day to day railroad actiion
COOL SNUFFY!!!
0:33 is very cool!
0:33
great thanks
I thought Intermodal and auto rack cars were prohibited from being humped
Only intermodal cars.
Why so?
+D R I'm not sure, but on the front and back of intermodal Wells it strictly says "Do Not Hump"
Carl Covington
Yeah I thought they were too
Humps usually have high gradients as part of their design, and the concern for intermodal cars is that they will get stuck. Because intermodal cars are depressed (their floor is lower than that of a standard railcar), there is a better chance for the wells to touch the rails and "bottom out" (the well is touching the rails, but the wheels aren't).
2:30 are these locomotives remote controlled?
most likley
Joe Dohn ***** en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Remote_control_locomotive
Spieker Yes they are
No
Spieker probably
I remember pulling pins on the hump. We had a "tote board" that told you whether to cut 1 or 2 cars. You had to be on your toes if you had to "walk a pin" all the way and look up and see you've got two piggybacks coming. You had to haul ass back or the first piggy would pull out your slack. I also remember a time that the retarders were letting some cars just fly through and actually pushed a few cars through at the trim end. Some new wheels from Japan had a coating like Teflon or something
Ahh...yes the slack rolls out. When you miss you have to back up stop and time it to get the pin while keeping the car balanced at the breaking point so it will roll downhill . We're veterans. LOL
What is it that is squeeling like a pig in a blender every time a car gets cut loose on a hump? The NS Yard in Elkhart Indiana has a hump and damn does that squeeling get annoying quick. Are they brakes set in the track to prevent the car from flying out of control or something?
Yes. and, in some yards they use what is called a skate which basically a specially designed wheel chock.
Me too!
what were the engines under the tarps, wreck victims?
What's with the lengthened noses on those SD40-2s?
Those are snoot noses. I think it is something to do with fixed -2 electric systems or a bigger toilet room.
I think its a rebuild
I think they might have housed some electronics back in the day. All i see in them now is a longer bathroom (in cab access) and and an empty room that is accessed from outside the conductor's side.
@@myeyeisnotblue Nope built that way. up is too cheap to use that much sheet metal. It would be nice if it was a rebuild.
what happen to all the santa fe trains working here
02:15 cant believe they use 3 engines for hum operations... we use 2 SD40 in NLR without a problem :D
Were those covered units from the wreak in Fontana?
Maybe they were the drivers backing their train into the yard. Just guessing.
cool
The two units covered up at 5:40 - are those the units from that collision in California?
I guess they are new or wreck units. First one looks kinda twisted from its longhood.
How'd you manage a Tour ? How do you even set one up?
Ho, I forgot to menchion, was this in San Bernardino?
i was laughing when they cut loose the auto rack
I've done it, without damage.
So, how'd you get a special tour?
I meant the Chattsworth wreak, not the Fontana wreak.
0:28 was unsafe that could’ve caused an accident!
when
Can someone please tell me what the 2 small exhaust stacks are in front of the windshield? Usualy on both sides of the short nose. Seems that older type locos only have one. They are shown at 3:18. Thanks.
Sand filler access hatch. Interesting you mention that. I was on a loco two and a half weeks ago when the mechanic had to fill the loco with sand. That hasn't happend to me in a long time.
@@BossSpringsteen69 Thanks.
i love american trains such a beasts
So how do they roll without the air hose attached? I always thought it took air to release the brakes.
The hump itself gets cars up to speed around 10-15mph then a set of automated rails called retarders slow the car down automatically classifies it and computer knows where the car is going along with the guy in the hump tower.
@@Scorges1 Thanks for the reply. I understand what your saying and that makes since, but how can the cars move without the airline attached? There must be a way to keep the brakes unlocked once the cars are separated from each other without the air. It's always been a mystery to me.
@@wayned1807 Great mystery indeed. However A "simple" explanation of a car's brakes is that the air reservoir on a rail car actually has two sides to it, service and emergency. BOTH are
normally pressured up for movement. Controlled pressure reduction on the service lines applies the car brakes due to the pressure present in the service portion of the reservoir. When disconnected from a train, the service side of the reservoir releases all air pressure and the emergency air pressure holds the brakes at full application. This portion of air can be bled off (leak off) which releases the brakes and allows the car to free roll if no hand brakes are set, which is what allows a hump yard to work.
@@Scorges1 Thanks, that is the answer I was looking for and suspected all along but wanted some kinda explanation. I stopped at the North Platt Bailey yard once and wondered ever since how that worked.
@@wayned1807 Hope you enjoyed Bailey Yard. They just recently closed the east hump, looks like a place now for extra locomotives and extra cars. They will reopen it soon I'm sure once business picks up again hopefully soon. Also you are very welcome
0:40 Thats a dangerous way of loading!
0:40
how do you get the tour
Dang, Thanks though