I absolutely agree with you When I am taking notes via keyboard on a laptop or anywhere, I remember barely nothing, but if I write down on a paper, it gives me a much better experience, flexibility, and most importantly, I can remember much more things
For quite some time, I carried a laptop, iPad, small Android tablet, cellphone and all of those chargers, cables and an external battery to charge my stuff, if needed. Besides shoulder pain, theft was my biggest fear. I replaced my stuff with an Onyx because after reviewing by actual needs day to day, I settled on a Boox device. Now I carry the Boox, my paper notebooks and a few pens. My back pain/shoulder pain is gone. I still use these devices so they are added as required. I never thought that a Boox would come into my life, but it has. After reviewing my day and what I actually require, the Boox is my favorite and most useful device. Great channel, I am now a fan. Cheers.
Perfect timing! I just got my Note Air 3C delivered! Edit: regarding the writing on Onenote. I've come to understand that the delay you referred to has to do with a Boox implementation to improve onenote performance on the device. If you tap somewhere on the page with your finger, it should render the writing without having to refresh the screen or go into the settings.
This is so helpful! I just ordered my NA3C and am waiting for it to be delivered. I feel more comfortable, knowing some of the basics before it gets here. Thanks!
Thank u for good review and some tips. I own Note Air 2 for almost a year.still learning new features and tricks. I have a problem that im not able to connect OneNote with the one we use at work (security policy),so i have cant sync my notes there, but im using the integraded notes app in boox and im super happy even with the BW version. Cant wait to learn more. Thnx again
I also have the same sync issue with my work account and onenote. It's really a shame and has limited my use case for onenote with my Boox device. For the purposes of planning, I've switched from the onenote planner to the PDF planner primarily because of the smoother hyperlink experience and I no longer need my planner to be accessible from other devices.
I´m still unsure about getting the coloured version or not. I like the idea of the colours in the notes, but I´ve heard, that the screen isn´t as bright as it is on the Note 3 and it needs a lot more battery. On the other hand the 3c has a better resolution when it comes to the screen... Naaaaah, what should I dooooo 🙂
I'm thinking about the NA3 but am definitely passing on the 3C. The battery life is horrendous on the 3C (just like the Tab Ultras) because of the GPU they added. It burns battery like a LCD/OLED tablet now. The Air 3 seems to keep the traditional E-Ink battery life but I wanted to understand how OneNote works. I had the Note Pro years ago and 3rd party writing apps didn't work at all. It was hard to understand in this video because of the minimal writing done and some editing I noticed. Will continue to look around for OneNote content
I ordered mine and never checked on OneNote compatibility. This video was the first one that really showcased that along with other productivity on the device in a normal use case. So thanks for that. Can anyone comment on how well split screen works with either penley or OneNote?
I'm now sold. I have a question. I am a current user or SN A5x and really like the Table of Contents as I tend to only have 1 note file. So being able to quickly get to different day's note is key. Is there such a feature in Boox NA3C? If not, what is the best workaround, without having to open a new note file every single time
I've had mine for about a month and gotta say the case is the worst part. It's heavy, it reduces the finger print reader performance, and the pen is constantly knocked off by the edge of the case. Not to mention you can't charge the device with the case closed.
I haven't found the cover to interfere with the fingerprint reader in practice. I think the rest of your critiques are fair, but I have found the benefits of this device in my own workflow exceed the annoyances presented by those issues.
@@dr3m4n totally agree! I actually overcame the fingerprint issue by erasing my initial scans and doing them again with the case on. Haven't had any issues yet
@@robinherrick2177 I curl it back behind the cover. It hasn't bothered my writing as I find it only causes the device to rock if I'm writing on the lower right side of the screen. That being said, I'm typically not writing for long period of time on a flat surface where it may present more of an annoyance. My use case is such that I'm jotting quick notes down and often holding the device in my other arm.
A firmware update is need in Boox note taking app : 1. The ability to create table of contents like in superonte a5x and a6x 2. link star should be like supernote do you could know it is registered.
Thank you for your good review. I have a questions, in everyday working life which one do you use for note-taking between Digital Notebook (PDF) and Application (like Onenote or Penly)?
I have tried both versions of the planner. I like the implementation of hyperlinks a lot better in the PDF version of the planner, but I use the hyperlinked OneNote version as my daily driver. The flexibility of OneNote just can't be beat. There are some idiosyncrasies to get used to,but I'm quite happy with this device and the onenote planner for my needs.
The only real gripe I have that keeps me from buying it is the relatively bad battery runtime. It has a 3700mAh battery, while the small 7" Tab Mini C has a 5000mAh battery. That tells me that I'll have to recharge a lot more often, considering the larger screen... all I would like is a new version of this with a more powerful battery.
I have had a note air for the last month I charge it once every week and a half. I use it for work (heavy note taking) and read a couple hours a day. I have WiFi and Bluetooth off 98% of the time. I have also had the kobo elipsa 2e and the kindle scribe but I returned them. This is my favorite of the three devices hands down.
@@franksinatra8211 Which Note Air, though? The 3C? There's a big difference depending on which specific model (due to presence or absence of "Boox Super Refresh"). The reviewer, My Deep Guide, was getting 7 to 14 hours for the Air 3C depending on how much front light was being used.
You might consider the B&W Boox Note Air 3 (without the C). It is much cheaper and has the same functionality and build as the Note Air 3C. I have received mine just a few days ago, still having to get used to it. Battery running now for several days and still about 70%.
Yes it will sync across all platforms and this is a great video to start to learn OneNote. Learn to Use OneNote Digital Planner | Full How To Guide To OneNote ua-cam.com/video/uxW13rlHKvs/v-deo.html
Hi there, great start up lesson thank you. My Air 3c is in the post and im waiting impatiently for it in New Zealand. My question please, can you create separate accounts on the device to use at home and work please.? Conscious of having personal notes and planner entres open at work.. would love to leave work at work also by simply switching accounts once im home. Interested in you feedback. Cheers Robin.
I am not directly sure about if you can have mutiple sign in on the device. But you could have different accounts in some apps, like OneNote. You could sign in and out of each account. Just note with the change in account sign ins you would have to download your notebooks.
Thanks for the great review ! My boox 3 c is shipping one of the main reasons I got it was for creating flashcards. I searched everywhere there is no videos on that. I have goodnotes on my ipad that can create study sets. So now I am getting nervous about this any suggestions ? Thanks
I would jump on either reddit or google and see if you can find an Android App that makes flash cards. Keep in mind that the Boox uses android so you have access to the apps in the google play store.
Thank you ! I tried reditt etc they keep mentioning a ankidroid the shorts video on boox for that is pathetic. Laggy. I wonder quiz let or anki or note taking apps work on boox as I will have to return the device if I am unable to access flashcards. Please make a short video of you find some information as it will be good for students and potential buyers and there are not many videos on any eink devices use case for flash cards thank you
I would love for Onyx to update the Boox Note line. It’s been a bit kind of like the reMarkable, but they recently released a new product and although it’s awesome. I think a new boox device would suit my needs more.
Can you use the OneNote quick note function that opens a small note taking window on the side of the acreen like on a windows.desktop? I was hoping that would help me with book note taking while reading to have my notes all saved in OneNote.
I have not personally used that feature. If it is a common feature in the android mobile version of onenote, then I would think it would work. Anyone else have some personal experience with this?
I enjoyed this review, very well done, thank you! I still have one question though, I also read about in other reviews: how long will Android 12 last and what happens afterwards? Any opinions or knowledge on this?
I am not sure on the exact answer to your question. But I find that in most cases the software out lasts the use of the device. E Ink devices are pretty much on a slow upgrade curve, so I would imagine you would have a lot of time with the product.
I want to take a moment to express my gratitude for all the amazing comments on my recent UA-cam video. Your feedback is incredibly valuable, and I'm truly appreciative of each and every one of you.
Branden, thanks for your video. I am new to e-ink, and have a specific use case. I am an engineer, and often work remote, and have a need to share ideas and draw pictures live while on a call. Trying to use a mouse to draw in whiteboard add-on type applications within Zoom, or Teams is terrible. I'd like to be able to share pictures live that look and feel more handwritten/drawn. Do you know of any applications that would interface live in meeting apps that would allow me to use a stylus?
Thanks for the informative review. Just ordered a monochrome version Note Air 3 for its battery life. Have your tried Evernote on Air 3c? Does it run smoothly on the device?
There is a scribble function, and Boox said it's made its software support pen to screen low latency buffer with: OneNote, WPS, and Evernote. I haven't tried Evernote yet. For Boox's note taking app to be as responsive as around 20ms, the Wacom pen input is directly sent to the screen as a buffer while sending the data to the screens at the same time. It's carried out to the 3 other softwares. Edit: Fix comment to say not just OneNote has low latency feature.
Remarkable subscription service (i paid $30 for the year) syncs your Remarkable notes & allows easy importing of PDF's with the app. I gave the Remarkable away to a family member as I couldn't stand not having a backlight though & got this Note Air3C.
Definitely a learning curve as there are an overwhelming amount of options, a few software quirks to overcome (i couldn't do their software update until I turned off an auto sleep setting & mine has difficulty with downloading unless I'm close to my router despite it saying that my connection speed is excellent), & the price is alot for what it is. Despite those, I like it so far. I like having the extra sd card option, the play store if needed, color option with kindle books, nice look of the tablet, & backlight.
@@stephenowens8658 I do think the backlit is a must in the next generation of remarkable. My question is why hasn't remarkable released a new generation? It's been nearly 4 years.
@@bodendorfer I'm tossing up between Remarkable and the NA3 and this is definitely one of the things making me think - I know as soon as I buy a R2 they'll announce a new model and I'll be pssed haha. That and the paid subscription model are really putting me off it. If I buy a premium device with relatively limited functionality, don't you dare put some funtions behind a paywall. It's really making me think twice.
Hi @boden. . I'm now sold. I have a question. I am a current user or SN A5x and really like the Table of Contents as I tend to only have 1 note file. So being able to quickly get to different day's note is key. Is there such a feature in Boox NA3C? If not, what is the best workaround, without having to open a new note file every single time
It depends how you do this. But if you are using the pdf app, some planners like ours has a table of contents. If you are using onenote, the tab navigation and search are very functional.
sir, can you do a full device review of all the functions? otherwise kindly point me out to the best video were can I see all the functions available. bought it but struggling.
You are the third person to bring up a lag in Penly when using it. I am surprised because I am not experiencing this. If you see in the video there is not much of a lag. My question is are you making annotation on a pdf or with a template?
I used it with a template and not with a pdf. I saw also in the video that there is a lag, writing is much better with the native app. You may want to try to write with normal speed and see how it works…
Good review Brandon. One major hole in it: I need to see a review that runs through a Zettelkasten workflow properly: 1.) Start with the process of reading documents (science/medical articles, textbooks, etc. in PDF AND ePUB formats). Boox works GREAT for this. 2.) Demonstrate taking notes on the document - in both formats (pdf & epub). I need to see that notes are linked to text on screen. Ideally, I want to be able to highlight a section of text, have that + my annotations appear in the note. 3.) Then I want to be able to export ALL the notes in the document/book (or section of a book) to use in other software. Those notes need to come with associated highlighted text, and they need to reference where in the document/book they occurred (so I can footnote that in my own papers). 4.) I need to be able to import those annotated notes into Zettelkasten software that lets me build a PKMS - something like Notion/Obsidian on Android, or Lattics, EccoPro or InfoQube on PC. That last step is crucial because NO eInk eReader/Note-taker supports Zettelkasten workflow & functionality in its own proprietary software! No reviewer is doing all this. That's a problem because we can't test these things for that functionality without purchasing them, as you've discovered & pointed out. We rely on you as reviewer to do that. I'm finding no end of complaints from other end users on Reddit who have purchased an eInk device & discovered they just don't support functional use beyond reading. SO PLEASE: show us that workflow.
I also thought the speeding up and editing that is done in the writing section was a bit disingenuous. People watch the review to understand how it works in real time so if you speed up the video to make the writing quicker or have cuts in when you refresh while you make think you're making a cleaner video you are actually hurting the viewers ability to understand the performance of the device. Many channels are "paid" reviewers so if you are not then keeping in some of those device pauses makes more a much more fair and balanced presentation for your viewers and you'll find many more people returning to you.
The sheer entitlement lmfao. "WE HAVE NO WAY OF FINDING THIS INFORMATION FOR EXACTLY 100% OUR WORKFLOW". So... buy the goddamn thing. Test it. And if it doesn’t do what you want send it back. Its not that complicated.
I agree. Also, I’d like to see if he can show a Kindle book on one side of the screen and then take notes from it on the other side. Then download those notes into something else-Word (although I won’t pay rent for Word), Pages, or PDFs.
I've been using the Penly app as per your suggestion on my Samsung S22 Ultra & my old Samsung Tab 10" tablet and liked the app. I just got my new Boox Tab Pro C tablet and for some reason, I find that writing on the Penly app has too much of a lag between when I make a stroke and when it shows up on the page. Much more noticeable than the native app. I just rewatched your video, and I think I see similar lag on your video. Do you feel there is noticeable more lag on Penly than on then native note app?
@bodendorfer - Please help. I would like to buy a Boox device (like tab ultra C) to write directly my notes as comments or check lists in OneNote. Could you please do a test / review where you write some text in OneNote as comments and check lists and convert it to standard type writing? My use-case is replacing my paper note pad so I save time not having to re-type my notes when I email them as meeting minutes or see them typed as check-lists in OneNote directly on Windows. THAAAAAANKS !
Thanks for the review. I have 3 questions. 1- Don't you think Onenote handwriting looks different? Why do their thickness change and not look like normal handwriting? (e.g. as in its own application) 2- Are there any other applications you recommend for reading PDFs and taking notes? Unfortunately, the pen writes with a delay in the applications I downloaded from the Android market. I need an application with a fast response time.
3- The eraser part of the pencil looks like it will scratch the glass. Do you think it is reliable? Because the eraser is made of hard plastic, I wasn't sure. Thank you so much !
The onenote writing looks different for several reasons. The first is that it is using different "brushes" than the default apps. This would be true with any other writing app you install on the device. The second is that the writing input works a little differently for Onenote (and I think Evernote) versus other writing/drawing apps on the playstore. The writing input is captured by the boox device as native input and then sent into the app in bulk. That is the reason that the thickness and color change between when you write something in onenote after a while. This allows for the smooth writing input that you get in the app as opposed to the delay you see in other apps from the playstore.
The Boox range is impressive and in a busy office environment they excel, but for organised writing, note taking and reviewing work... Supernote reigns as king.
What is your feeling on the build of the Supernote? I find that it is a nice device for writing, however the build quality is mostly plastic and feels cheap.
@@bodendorfer Hi bodendorfer. Like a snail out of its shell, I think the Supernote is a pretty bland looking device out of its case, but that plastic and rubber-like screen gives it a robustness others don't have, if you don't believe me _[which I believe you do]..._ try droping a Boox device onto a hard floor with a Supernote and see which comes off best... that was one of the first things that drew me towards the Supernote. However, since using the device that robustness _almost_ paled into insignificance once I discovered what the OS offered, its really quite ingenious and for my user case, has transformed my studies, research as well as my reviewing of documents/books/papers. However, if I was in a different environment, I'd go for a Boox device though with some concerns regarding its fragility, and the battery. Today, with some Boox devices coming out of the Box with a full battery charge only just getting the *heavy user* through a full day, I see problems appearing as the recharge cycle count nears say... 500-600 hundred cycles, leaving some users having to get used to carrying a cable about with them which with e-Ink devices, we all thought was a thing of the past. Even with the Supernote, I can burn through a charge in two or three days with hours of writing, and if I had a Boox colour device I could see me being tethered to a wall socked pretty quickly. Because of new EU regulations, Supernote's new range has a user replaceable battery which speaks of a longevity Boox doesn't offer, unless of course, you are prepared to crack the case.
I’m leaning towards SN, and I love how they develop things and improve. But I do wish they have more tools, like integration with obsidian and the likes. Granted my comments is only based on what little I know thru research (I don’t own one but I’m doing research as I want one)
@@Cons2911 I have one. Love to write on it, but I feel if I toss it my back is going to crack. But I do understand it could be a weight thing or to keep cost low.
It all comes down to the fact if you are a fan of eink and are a heavy writer. If you prefer writing with eink devices, but want the options that an android tablet offers.
I have both devices, I like the air for note taking as it is slightly lighter. However the Ultra has a little more function and power for productivity apps.
Hi, just bought PENLY on the app store after seeing this video. The writing has so much lag that it's unusable. ?? Note 3c few weeks old... any advice ? Thx
A common problem with giving the user a full-blown android OS and the play store. Only a few apps will work as intended with e-ink, This is so much more evident with drawing apps. It can quite quickly make for a bad tablet experience if you are not aware that 99% of apps will be a poor user experience. There's only a few e-ink dedicated non-proprietary apps, so one has to wonder if Boox are really doing things right regarding a streamlined and pleasant UX. You then begin to realise why tailored products like the supernote and remarkable exist. Each to their own though... Boox - great for tinkering, IMO.
@@JamesWilliam70 I like SN, but I do wish they have a few more things like browser as I google and save links for flute reference, or make notes based on those links
That is always the question that I ask myself when reviewing e-ink. For most people it is the writing feel vs writing on glass, reduction in connected services, notifications, and the long battery life. Most people that I know that have e-ink, use it primary for writing and still use an iPad or tablet for computer like mobile productivity.
I think it's a different experience because e-ink uses front lights, not backlights. There is zero backlighting with the 3C even though that word is used a LOT in various reviews. It is only front-lit, so the light is directed away from you and towards the screen. With backlights, the light is directed at you. However, I agree that the price is quite high, so real writing feel and no backlighting have to be really important to justify.
i have ever own a tablet, and I can't really use it, because i always got pretty bad headache and eye strain every time i use it, even by a single hour of usage, so my bad I gotta sold it. but since my work and study require me to do a long session of reading and writing so this e ink device is the best solution for me. friendlier to my sensitive eyes.
It's a great device for note-taking. You may want to pair it with a planner. Check this out: 2024 Supernote Digital Planner | How to Digital Plan ua-cam.com/video/SdCOA9M5dAM/v-deo.html
I'm looking forward to what the A5X2 might bring. Rumoured to be coming by the end of the 1st quarter 2024. As an artist, the drawing app Atelier is the best I've seen in e-ink devices so far with the precise eraser which is essential in art and makes the Supernote the most valuable to me. The Boox OS looks like a bad user experience outside their proprietary software with 99% of apps from the Play store that won't work as intended.
You highlight the strengths of the 3C well but I find the comparison with the supernote unfair. Totally different philosophies, supernote is all about the software and note taking and is exceptional at that. 3C is all about hardware and polyvalence but not as good for note taking as lacks all the options Supernote has to store and go through previous notes such as tags, categories and stars. 3C is better for people who don’t take a lot of notes at work and want an all in one e-ink machine. I take way too many notes at work to favour the 3C over the Supernote, I’d get lost in my notes in 2 weeks time.
Hey man, different devices for different people in workflow. I will say I like the feel of the supernote, I just feel the build quality is low and it doesn't have the ability to integrate with other apps. If you are someone looking for a device that has the ability to note take, listen to audio books, and connect with the kindle app, then the 3C is probably best for you.
I'm now sold. I have a question. I am a current user or SN A5x and really like the Table of Contents as I tend to only have 1 note file. So being able to quickly get to different day's note is key. Is there such a feature in Boox NA3C? If not, what is the best workaround, without having to open a new note file every single time
I absolutely agree with you
When I am taking notes via keyboard on a laptop or anywhere, I remember barely nothing, but if I write down on a paper, it gives me a much better experience, flexibility, and most importantly, I can remember much more things
I wholeheartedly agree with you and share the same point of view.
For quite some time, I carried a laptop, iPad, small Android tablet, cellphone and all of those chargers, cables and an external battery to charge my stuff, if needed. Besides shoulder pain, theft was my biggest fear.
I replaced my stuff with an Onyx because after reviewing by actual needs day to day, I settled on a Boox device. Now I carry the Boox, my paper notebooks and a few pens. My back pain/shoulder pain is gone.
I still use these devices so they are added as required.
I never thought that a Boox would come into my life, but it has. After reviewing my day and what I actually require, the Boox is my favorite and most useful device.
Great channel, I am now a fan. Cheers.
That's a great story. I find that if you can use devices that sync content and store files in the cloud.
Perfect timing! I just got my Note Air 3C delivered!
Edit: regarding the writing on Onenote. I've come to understand that the delay you referred to has to do with a Boox implementation to improve onenote performance on the device. If you tap somewhere on the page with your finger, it should render the writing without having to refresh the screen or go into the settings.
yes, they use a global inking with third party apps and you are right if you touch the screen the screen refresh does help. Great tip.
Thank you! I was hoping for this video. Can you do one for using Second Brain/PARA with this?
This is so helpful! I just ordered my NA3C and am waiting for it to be delivered. I feel more comfortable, knowing some of the basics before it gets here. Thanks!
You are welcome. Let me know what you think of the device after a few weeks of use it.
How do you like the device
Thank u for good review and some tips. I own Note Air 2 for almost a year.still learning new features and tricks. I have a problem that im not able to connect OneNote with the one we use at work (security policy),so i have cant sync my notes there, but im using the integraded notes app in boox and im super happy even with the BW version. Cant wait to learn more. Thnx again
I also have the same sync issue with my work account and onenote. It's really a shame and has limited my use case for onenote with my Boox device. For the purposes of planning, I've switched from the onenote planner to the PDF planner primarily because of the smoother hyperlink experience and I no longer need my planner to be accessible from other devices.
great to hear. Happy to hear after using the device you still love it.
In my case I fix this issue by installing word and log in each 15 days, otherwise it logs off, good luck
I´m still unsure about getting the coloured version or not. I like the idea of the colours in the notes, but I´ve heard, that the screen isn´t as bright as it is on the Note 3 and it needs a lot more battery. On the other hand the 3c has a better resolution when it comes to the screen... Naaaaah, what should I dooooo 🙂
I'm thinking about the NA3 but am definitely passing on the 3C. The battery life is horrendous on the 3C (just like the Tab Ultras) because of the GPU they added. It burns battery like a LCD/OLED tablet now. The Air 3 seems to keep the traditional E-Ink battery life but I wanted to understand how OneNote works. I had the Note Pro years ago and 3rd party writing apps didn't work at all. It was hard to understand in this video because of the minimal writing done and some editing I noticed. Will continue to look around for OneNote content
I ordered mine and never checked on OneNote compatibility. This video was the first one that really showcased that along with other productivity on the device in a normal use case. So thanks for that. Can anyone comment on how well split screen works with either penley or OneNote?
The split screen works well for an e-ink device. Just keep in mind that e - ink devices have a low refresh rate.
I'm now sold. I have a question. I am a current user or SN A5x and really like the Table of Contents as I tend to only have 1 note file. So being able to quickly get to different day's note is key. Is there such a feature in Boox NA3C? If not, what is the best workaround, without having to open a new note file every single time
Great video. Did you ever try the likes of JotterPad on this? I am curious if it works well.
No I have not... I will see about downloading it now.
Excellent video as always thanks , Very informative .
I appreciate your support. Happy to hear the video was informative and met your needs.
Hi great review here, is it possible to install and use the ChatGPT and Claude App on the Note Air 3C?Appreciated
You should be able to install them from the Google Play store.
I've had mine for about a month and gotta say the case is the worst part. It's heavy, it reduces the finger print reader performance, and the pen is constantly knocked off by the edge of the case. Not to mention you can't charge the device with the case closed.
I haven't found the cover to interfere with the fingerprint reader in practice. I think the rest of your critiques are fair, but I have found the benefits of this device in my own workflow exceed the annoyances presented by those issues.
@@dr3m4n totally agree! I actually overcame the fingerprint issue by erasing my initial scans and doing them again with the case on. Haven't had any issues yet
What do you do with the flap when you're using the device? I find it gets in the way because it curls over the screen.
@@robinherrick2177 I curl it back behind the cover. It hasn't bothered my writing as I find it only causes the device to rock if I'm writing on the lower right side of the screen. That being said, I'm typically not writing for long period of time on a flat surface where it may present more of an annoyance. My use case is such that I'm jotting quick notes down and often holding the device in my other arm.
@@dr3m4n I'll look at some other suppliers of cases. There seem to be many out there.
Thank you so much for this video.
You are so welcome. What part of the video was most helpful?
A firmware update is need in Boox note taking app :
1. The ability to create table of contents like in superonte a5x and a6x
2. link star should be like supernote do you could know it is registered.
Thank you for your good review. I have a questions, in everyday working life which one do you use for note-taking between Digital Notebook (PDF) and Application (like Onenote or Penly)?
I have tried both versions of the planner. I like the implementation of hyperlinks a lot better in the PDF version of the planner, but I use the hyperlinked OneNote version as my daily driver. The flexibility of OneNote just can't be beat. There are some idiosyncrasies to get used to,but I'm quite happy with this device and the onenote planner for my needs.
Great review. A question - Does this tablet allow writing using stylus over screen protector? Thanks.
yes this shouldn't be an issue.
The only real gripe I have that keeps me from buying it is the relatively bad battery runtime. It has a 3700mAh battery, while the small 7" Tab Mini C has a 5000mAh battery. That tells me that I'll have to recharge a lot more often, considering the larger screen... all I would like is a new version of this with a more powerful battery.
What would be the reasonable frequency for charge. I will track my usage and let you know, how often I charge.
I have had a note air for the last month I charge it once every week and a half. I use it for work (heavy note taking) and read a couple hours a day. I have WiFi and Bluetooth off 98% of the time.
I have also had the kobo elipsa 2e and the kindle scribe but I returned them. This is my favorite of the three devices hands down.
@@franksinatra8211 Which Note Air, though? The 3C? There's a big difference depending on which specific model (due to presence or absence of "Boox Super Refresh"). The reviewer, My Deep Guide, was getting 7 to 14 hours for the Air 3C depending on how much front light was being used.
You might consider the B&W Boox Note Air 3 (without the C). It is much cheaper and has the same functionality and build as the Note Air 3C. I have received mine just a few days ago, still having to get used to it. Battery running now for several days and still about 70%.
Question. Is there a link that explains how to use your planner with OneNote. Also, do the written notes come across on all platforms?
Yes it will sync across all platforms and this is a great video to start to learn OneNote. Learn to Use OneNote Digital Planner | Full How To Guide To OneNote
ua-cam.com/video/uxW13rlHKvs/v-deo.html
Hi there, great start up lesson thank you. My Air 3c is in the post and im waiting impatiently for it in New Zealand. My question please, can you create separate accounts on the device to use at home and work please.? Conscious of having personal notes and planner entres open at work.. would love to leave work at work also by simply switching accounts once im home. Interested in you feedback. Cheers Robin.
I am not directly sure about if you can have mutiple sign in on the device. But you could have different accounts in some apps, like OneNote. You could sign in and out of each account. Just note with the change in account sign ins you would have to download your notebooks.
Thanks for the great review ! My boox 3 c is shipping one of the main reasons I got it was for creating flashcards. I searched everywhere there is no videos on that. I have goodnotes on my ipad that can create study sets. So now I am getting nervous about this any suggestions ? Thanks
I would jump on either reddit or google and see if you can find an Android App that makes flash cards. Keep in mind that the Boox uses android so you have access to the apps in the google play store.
Thank you ! I tried reditt etc they keep mentioning a ankidroid the shorts video on boox for that is pathetic. Laggy. I wonder quiz let or anki or note taking apps work on boox as I will have to return the device if I am unable to access flashcards. Please make a short video of you find some information as it will be good for students and potential buyers and there are not many videos on any eink devices use case for flash cards thank you
I just got my first Boox Note Air 3C and your video is very helpful to start. How do you create your own templates to handwritten notes? Thank you
I personally use Adobe design tools for creating the templates. However, many people find success with Canva.
Does this device have the "Speech to Text" feature, which converts speech to text, like the Bigme device has?
Yes if you enter type mode, you can choose to use the speech to text feature. IT seems to work pretty good.
Great video, thank you for making it
Thank you for taking the time to let me know what you thought about the video. Happy to hear it was helpful.
I would love for Onyx to update the Boox Note line. It’s been a bit kind of like the reMarkable, but they recently released a new product and although it’s awesome. I think a new boox device would suit my needs more.
Can you use the OneNote quick note function that opens a small note taking window on the side of the acreen like on a windows.desktop? I was hoping that would help me with book note taking while reading to have my notes all saved in OneNote.
I have not personally used that feature. If it is a common feature in the android mobile version of onenote, then I would think it would work. Anyone else have some personal experience with this?
I enjoyed this review, very well done, thank you! I still have one question though, I also read about in other reviews: how long will Android 12 last and what happens afterwards? Any opinions or knowledge on this?
I am not sure on the exact answer to your question. But I find that in most cases the software out lasts the use of the device. E Ink devices are pretty much on a slow upgrade curve, so I would imagine you would have a lot of time with the product.
Found this relly helpful. Thx.
I want to take a moment to express my gratitude for all the amazing comments on my recent UA-cam video. Your feedback is incredibly valuable, and I'm truly appreciative of each and every one of you.
Branden, thanks for your video. I am new to e-ink, and have a specific use case. I am an engineer, and often work remote, and have a need to share ideas and draw pictures live while on a call. Trying to use a mouse to draw in whiteboard add-on type applications within Zoom, or Teams is terrible. I'd like to be able to share pictures live that look and feel more handwritten/drawn. Do you know of any applications that would interface live in meeting apps that would allow me to use a stylus?
I often do this. Which e-ink device did you hand on? You can share a screen to zoom and share your notes.
I'd really like to use something like thia as a flight computer screen on my paraglider. But, I wish i could try it before buying it.
Thanks for the informative review. Just ordered a monochrome version Note Air 3 for its battery life. Have your tried Evernote on Air 3c? Does it run smoothly on the device?
I am not a huge fan of Evernote. Just prefer to handwrite in my note-taking app.
There is a scribble function, and Boox said it's made its software support pen to screen low latency buffer with: OneNote, WPS, and Evernote. I haven't tried Evernote yet.
For Boox's note taking app to be as responsive as around 20ms, the Wacom pen input is directly sent to the screen as a buffer while sending the data to the screens at the same time. It's carried out to the 3 other softwares.
Edit: Fix comment to say not just OneNote has low latency feature.
Will you be reviewing the Remarkable Pro
Yes. Have 3 videos that will be posting.
Remarkable subscription service (i paid $30 for the year) syncs your Remarkable notes & allows easy importing of PDF's with the app. I gave the Remarkable away to a family member as I couldn't stand not having a backlight though & got this Note Air3C.
How do you like the Air 3c after using it over the remarkable?
Definitely a learning curve as there are an overwhelming amount of options, a few software quirks to overcome (i couldn't do their software update until I turned off an auto sleep setting & mine has difficulty with downloading unless I'm close to my router despite it saying that my connection speed is excellent), & the price is alot for what it is.
Despite those, I like it so far. I like having the extra sd card option, the play store if needed, color option with kindle books, nice look of the tablet, & backlight.
@@stephenowens8658 I do think the backlit is a must in the next generation of remarkable. My question is why hasn't remarkable released a new generation? It's been nearly 4 years.
@@bodendorfer I'm tossing up between Remarkable and the NA3 and this is definitely one of the things making me think - I know as soon as I buy a R2 they'll announce a new model and I'll be pssed haha. That and the paid subscription model are really putting me off it. If I buy a premium device with relatively limited functionality, don't you dare put some funtions behind a paywall. It's really making me think twice.
Hi @boden. . I'm now sold. I have a question. I am a current user or SN A5x and really like the Table of Contents as I tend to only have 1 note file. So being able to quickly get to different day's note is key. Is there such a feature in Boox NA3C? If not, what is the best workaround, without having to open a new note file every single time
It depends how you do this. But if you are using the pdf app, some planners like ours has a table of contents. If you are using onenote, the tab navigation and search are very functional.
sir, can you do a full device review of all the functions? otherwise kindly point me out to the best video were can I see all the functions available. bought it but struggling.
I don't have a full spec review. What is the issue you are experiencing with the device?
The lag with Penly is very disappointing. I am surprised that it's not even mentioned in the video. :(
You are the third person to bring up a lag in Penly when using it. I am surprised because I am not experiencing this. If you see in the video there is not much of a lag. My question is are you making annotation on a pdf or with a template?
I used it with a template and not with a pdf. I saw also in the video that there is a lag, writing is much better with the native app. You may want to try to write with normal speed and see how it works…
Good review Brandon. One major hole in it:
I need to see a review that runs through a Zettelkasten workflow properly:
1.) Start with the process of reading documents (science/medical articles, textbooks, etc. in PDF AND ePUB formats). Boox works GREAT for this.
2.) Demonstrate taking notes on the document - in both formats (pdf & epub). I need to see that notes are linked to text on screen. Ideally, I want to be able to highlight a section of text, have that + my annotations appear in the note.
3.) Then I want to be able to export ALL the notes in the document/book (or section of a book) to use in other software. Those notes need to come with associated highlighted text, and they need to reference where in the document/book they occurred (so I can footnote that in my own papers).
4.) I need to be able to import those annotated notes into Zettelkasten software that lets me build a PKMS - something like Notion/Obsidian on Android, or Lattics, EccoPro or InfoQube on PC.
That last step is crucial because NO eInk eReader/Note-taker supports Zettelkasten workflow & functionality in its own proprietary software!
No reviewer is doing all this. That's a problem because we can't test these things for that functionality without purchasing them, as you've discovered & pointed out. We rely on you as reviewer to do that. I'm finding no end of complaints from other end users on Reddit who have purchased an eInk device & discovered they just don't support functional use beyond reading.
SO PLEASE: show us that workflow.
I also thought the speeding up and editing that is done in the writing section was a bit disingenuous. People watch the review to understand how it works in real time so if you speed up the video to make the writing quicker or have cuts in when you refresh while you make think you're making a cleaner video you are actually hurting the viewers ability to understand the performance of the device. Many channels are "paid" reviewers so if you are not then keeping in some of those device pauses makes more a much more fair and balanced presentation for your viewers and you'll find many more people returning to you.
The sheer entitlement lmfao. "WE HAVE NO WAY OF FINDING THIS INFORMATION FOR EXACTLY 100% OUR WORKFLOW". So... buy the goddamn thing. Test it. And if it doesn’t do what you want send it back. Its not that complicated.
I agree. Also, I’d like to see if he can show a Kindle book on one side of the screen and then take notes from it on the other side. Then download those notes into something else-Word (although I won’t pay rent for Word), Pages, or PDFs.
I understand the device has preinstaled Google Play, but, can you tell me if the device are certificated by Google Play Protect?
What is Google Play Protect?
I've been using the Penly app as per your suggestion on my Samsung S22 Ultra & my old Samsung Tab 10" tablet and liked the app. I just got my new Boox Tab Pro C tablet and for some reason, I find that writing on the Penly app has too much of a lag between when I make a stroke and when it shows up on the page. Much more noticeable than the native app. I just rewatched your video, and I think I see similar lag on your video. Do you feel there is noticeable more lag on Penly than on then native note app?
I have noticed a bit more lag. However, I have made adjustments that seem to satisfy my own insanity with it. The onxy app is faster for sure.
@bodendorfer - Please help. I would like to buy a Boox device (like tab ultra C) to write directly my notes as comments or check lists in OneNote. Could you please do a test / review where you write some text in OneNote as comments and check lists and convert it to standard type writing? My use-case is replacing my paper note pad so I save time not having to re-type my notes when I email them as meeting minutes or see them typed as check-lists in OneNote directly on Windows. THAAAAAANKS !
I am waiting for this to go on sale! Taxes in the Philippines is a bit steep
Do they go on sale on the local seller?
I’m curious what the silver square is on your collar.
That is the magnetic that is holding the mic.
Thanks for the review. I have 3 questions.
1- Don't you think Onenote handwriting looks different? Why do their thickness change and not look like normal handwriting? (e.g. as in its own application)
2- Are there any other applications you recommend for reading PDFs and taking notes? Unfortunately, the pen writes with a delay in the applications I downloaded from the Android market. I need an application with a fast response time.
3- The eraser part of the pencil looks like it will scratch the glass. Do you think it is reliable? Because the eraser is made of hard plastic, I wasn't sure.
Thank you so much !
The onenote writing looks different for several reasons. The first is that it is using different "brushes" than the default apps. This would be true with any other writing app you install on the device. The second is that the writing input works a little differently for Onenote (and I think Evernote) versus other writing/drawing apps on the playstore. The writing input is captured by the boox device as native input and then sent into the app in bulk. That is the reason that the thickness and color change between when you write something in onenote after a while. This allows for the smooth writing input that you get in the app as opposed to the delay you see in other apps from the playstore.
Try the AI feature "smart erase",u dont need the eraser on ur pen anymore. It erases with strokes 😊
Do you try the new boox go 10.3?😊
We are working on a video for that device.
Can Note Air open OneNote from OneDrive and sync across multiple devices?
Yes you should be able to download one note from the app store and then sign in and sync your onedrive notebooks across devices.
Can you do a comparison with the BOOX Tab Ultra C Pro version?
Take a look at this video: ua-cam.com/video/dJsrDpBKXYo/v-deo.html
The Boox range is impressive and in a busy office environment they excel, but for organised writing, note taking and reviewing work... Supernote reigns as king.
What is your feeling on the build of the Supernote? I find that it is a nice device for writing, however the build quality is mostly plastic and feels cheap.
@@bodendorfer Hi bodendorfer.
Like a snail out of its shell, I think the Supernote is a pretty bland looking device out of its case, but that plastic and rubber-like screen gives it a robustness others don't have, if you don't believe me _[which I believe you do]..._ try droping a Boox device onto a hard floor with a Supernote and see which comes off best... that was one of the first things that drew me towards the Supernote.
However, since using the device that robustness _almost_ paled into insignificance once I discovered what the OS offered, its really quite ingenious and for my user case, has transformed my studies, research as well as my reviewing of documents/books/papers.
However, if I was in a different environment, I'd go for a Boox device though with some concerns regarding its fragility, and the battery. Today, with some Boox devices coming out of the Box with a full battery charge only just getting the *heavy user* through a full day, I see problems appearing as the recharge cycle count nears say... 500-600 hundred cycles, leaving some users having to get used to carrying a cable about with them which with e-Ink devices, we all thought was a thing of the past.
Even with the Supernote, I can burn through a charge in two or three days with hours of writing, and if I had a Boox colour device I could see me being tethered to a wall socked pretty quickly.
Because of new EU regulations, Supernote's new range has a user replaceable battery which speaks of a longevity Boox doesn't offer, unless of course, you are prepared to crack the case.
I’m leaning towards SN, and I love how they develop things and improve. But I do wish they have more tools, like integration with obsidian and the likes. Granted my comments is only based on what little I know thru research (I don’t own one but I’m doing research as I want one)
@@bodendorferI have not held one, but I think it helps with the weight
@@Cons2911 I have one. Love to write on it, but I feel if I toss it my back is going to crack. But I do understand it could be a weight thing or to keep cost low.
Where do you get that pdf planner?
My biggest and most frequent question when I look at this device is what am I getting that I can’t get with a galaxy or other android based tablet?
It all comes down to the fact if you are a fan of eink and are a heavy writer. If you prefer writing with eink devices, but want the options that an android tablet offers.
Great video
Would you recommend this device over the Tab Ultra c pro?
I have both devices, I like the air for note taking as it is slightly lighter. However the Ultra has a little more function and power for productivity apps.
For people that want the keyboard type note app which app do you recommend for this device?
I think OneNote is going to be the best choice if you want to to use a keyboard with the device.
Whare can you buy this? Had the remarkable took it back was not good
Are you looking for the planner or the device?
@bodendorfer Device
13:00 holy crap, that is a lot of lag!
Hi, just bought PENLY on the app store after seeing this video. The writing has so much lag that it's unusable. ?? Note 3c few weeks old... any advice ? Thx
which speed are you using? I normally run Fast or Ultra fast in the e-control settings and normally don't experience much lag at all.
Went to from fast to ultra fast...and I couldn't use that for notes and so disappointed. Great format but lost money there.
I heard that hand writing works well for native apps, not much on others
A common problem with giving the user a full-blown android OS and the play store. Only a few apps will work as intended with e-ink, This is so much more evident with drawing apps. It can quite quickly make for a bad tablet experience if you are not aware that 99% of apps will be a poor user experience. There's only a few e-ink dedicated non-proprietary apps, so one has to wonder if Boox are really doing things right regarding a streamlined and pleasant UX. You then begin to realise why tailored products like the supernote and remarkable exist. Each to their own though... Boox - great for tinkering, IMO.
@@JamesWilliam70 I like SN, but I do wish they have a few more things like browser as I google and save links for flute reference, or make notes based on those links
I really can’t see the advantage over a tablet (Android or Apple doesn’t matter) considering the price range is mostly the same. What am I missing?
That is always the question that I ask myself when reviewing e-ink. For most people it is the writing feel vs writing on glass, reduction in connected services, notifications, and the long battery life. Most people that I know that have e-ink, use it primary for writing and still use an iPad or tablet for computer like mobile productivity.
I think it's a different experience because e-ink uses front lights, not backlights. There is zero backlighting with the 3C even though that word is used a LOT in various reviews. It is only front-lit, so the light is directed away from you and towards the screen. With backlights, the light is directed at you. However, I agree that the price is quite high, so real writing feel and no backlighting have to be really important to justify.
i have ever own a tablet, and I can't really use it, because i always got pretty bad headache and eye strain every time i use it, even by a single hour of usage, so my bad I gotta sold it. but since my work and study require me to do a long session of reading and writing so this e ink device is the best solution for me. friendlier to my sensitive eyes.
Bonjour avez vous les explications en français 🥴?
Just bought tye new supernote. Didnt see this before. But still think i made a good decision. Cheers
It's a great device for note-taking. You may want to pair it with a planner. Check this out: 2024 Supernote Digital Planner | How to Digital Plan
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A6x2?
@@Cons2911 I will take a deep look at this device.
I'm looking forward to what the A5X2 might bring. Rumoured to be coming by the end of the 1st quarter 2024. As an artist, the drawing app Atelier is the best I've seen in e-ink devices so far with the precise eraser which is essential in art and makes the Supernote the most valuable to me. The Boox OS looks like a bad user experience outside their proprietary software with 99% of apps from the Play store that won't work as intended.
Does this have Norwegian language?
sub titles added
Hm I'll try this on a Bigme
You highlight the strengths of the 3C well but I find the comparison with the supernote unfair. Totally different philosophies, supernote is all about the software and note taking and is exceptional at that. 3C is all about hardware and polyvalence but not as good for note taking as lacks all the options Supernote has to store and go through previous notes such as tags, categories and stars. 3C is better for people who don’t take a lot of notes at work and want an all in one e-ink machine. I take way too many notes at work to favour the 3C over the Supernote, I’d get lost in my notes in 2 weeks time.
Hey man, different devices for different people in workflow. I will say I like the feel of the supernote, I just feel the build quality is low and it doesn't have the ability to integrate with other apps. If you are someone looking for a device that has the ability to note take, listen to audio books, and connect with the kindle app, then the 3C is probably best for you.
SUPERNOTE all the way besids it not being backlit. Also battery life is really bad but great job!
Can you add turkish subtitles
done... please let me know how it comes through.
@@bodendorfer I heard that it was added from the UA-cam studio application, but I don't know exactly either.
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why is the latency so massive on this device😪
Where are you experiencing the lag? I find that it's pretty quick for a e ink device.
Like for the love of cheese ❤😂
The Cheese is great from Wisconsin.
I'm now sold. I have a question. I am a current user or SN A5x and really like the Table of Contents as I tend to only have 1 note file. So being able to quickly get to different day's note is key. Is there such a feature in Boox NA3C? If not, what is the best workaround, without having to open a new note file every single time
They just released go 10.3, not colored but seems good