A Song of Ice and Fire: History of Sothoryos and Ulthos
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- A brief history of Sothoryos and Ulthos, two mysterious far eastern continents, little understood by the people of Westeros. Based on the A Song of Ice and Fire series by George R.R. Martin.
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I can't get enough of this continent I love its mystical history
Sothoryos is like Africa/Australia. We really need a Spin Off series with these unknown places from the map.
More like South America
@@Rotisiv I've never seen one episode of GOT, but I do know some things about the world of the series. Since these places in the GOT world are supposed to have real-life counterparts and Essos is basically supposed to be Eurasia, I'd say Sothoryos is probably Africa since it looks to be south of Essos.
@@Rotisiveh geography and people seem more like Africa
I am far more interested about ulthos
Sothoryos does seem to be based on Africa, though the parallels are of a shallow stereotype. Historically, disease did keep European and Arab traders from venturing deep into the continent so there were mythological tales about “here be dragons” and attempts to explain away the exotic animals deep within the continent.
The people in sothoryos though are more isolated than the ones in ancient and medieval sub-Saharan Africa; with kingdoms like Abyssinia and Mali regularly trading with outsiders.
Yeah, the Summer Islanders too, they seem to be based off of Somalis, since they were seen as intrepid sailors whose exotic goods spread as far as China
@@luffy101311 and it would play into the medieval theme too as trade from the Middle East was how the Europeans knew about the nations in the Far East. Also like in Essos, the stories are often highly exaggerated due to distance.
well they may not necessarily be as isolated as you think. the Summer Islanders may have maps of southern Sothoryos and they don't like sharing them. that would historically seem to suggest that maybe there are people there they trade with and they don't want their trade secret out because right now no one knowing about their secret trade partner means they profit the most off of them. Vikings were notorious about lying about where they traded, who they raided. it was a tactic to make sure you made the most money. that COULD potentially mean George was subtly hinting there may be people in the south who trade with Summer Islanders who then expose those goods to the rest of the world. which is very reminiscent of real world trade routes
@@keegan112099 that is a good point, but we don’t know how large the continent is; as one Valyrian dragon rider couldn’t find its end after three years. If we were to parallel this to Africa, it harks back to rumors that either the Carthaginians or Egyptians found the cape of Good Hope. That and we don’t know how deep the summer islanders ventured into the continent. It seems like any outsiders who stay in Sothoryos for some amount of time succumbs to some horrifying disease.
I think what is told about Sothoryos is largely exaggerations told by the maesters who have flimsy records at best about the land.
Those places always intrigued me. What type of unknown history could those places have. The mind can wonder on and on.
The other lands seem to Africa, Asia, South America and maybe Australia
Sothoryos i think is supposed to come off like the amazon and south america, one of the targayens spent years riding the western coast, aerial on dragonback in search of the southern coast/edge, and never found it. Thats alot like south america, very long western coast, and a southern coast line that basically doesnt exist. Part of the reason why the Targaryen was able to safely scout it, for years, without having to deal with alot of the horrors were that on its western side, its mostly mountains, juuuust like south america. She flew for i think 1.5-2 years aerially in search of its southern coastline and never found it, assumed it was endless. She had to land every once in a while during those years to feed her dragon and rest, the western mountains of Sothoryos gave her the ability to do that. South americas western mountains are also known to have a unique wind element from it coming off the ocean that keep things airborne for a long time. It just totally makes sense to me that, sothoryos is modeled after south america. Also alot of places in game of thrones first letter or prefix will represent its location, for instance westeros (west), essos (east), So-thoryos i think is named after south. like South america.
@@profo4544 sothoryos is clearly africa while essos is europe and asia. Ulthos can be australia. North and south america are westeros. South westeros aka dorne can be south america since it's way hotter with tanner people. Canada and the arctic is the North. The map is basically just another version of our world map
@@cephalonrolli5678 Maybe in ur head, but i have an actual degree in geography, i mean idk what hill ur prepared to die on over this, but if u were to say take a small chunk of every continent so far in the GOT world, and say what does this match in the real world. Sothoryos matches south america almost exactly, africa isnt primarily jungle its literally only classified as a rainforest after u dip beneath cameroon and enter gabon, and even before u leave gabon it starts turning into grassland. Now you compare it to south america, wich is classified as a rainforest/jungle climate at the top and has a giant rainorest, Around 2 million km² of Africa is covered by tropical rainforests. They are second only in extent to those in Amazonia, which cover around 6 million km². Now once u leave the northern most of sothoryos, u reach grasslands savanahh exactly like south america. The scorched barrens is where it starts cutting off, but tbh, i think its both. It kinda looks like he tried to connect south america and africa or something, because ulthoa and sothoryos are actually connected. But yeah just go examine and compare both and its kind of obvious.
@Ali Chaudhry westeros could be great britain with dorne being like spain/portugal/italy and the north being like scandinavia, but sothoryos is absolutely africa. no debate. North and south america might not be in that world yet unless arya finds it in another series or book.
@Ali Chaudhry when martin was creating all this, he had africa in mind and probably never bothered thinking about north and south america. He even said it's loosely based on africa just like how essos is europe and asia. Ulthos would have to be australia since that's the only option left and australia was so far away from britain that it was more of an unknown that north/south america
So basically Southoryos just like Monster Hunter World
Yup Castle Schrade's ruler was a dragonlord. He rode Fatalis.
I have a full map of Southoryos and the rest of the known world and to be honest the world of Game of Thrones is a lot bigger than you think it is
@@Colin-um5tz isn’t sorothros endless?
@@nicholash1691 nope it’s just really big
@@Colin-um5tz trueee.. who was the Targaryen woman to fly it for 3 years again?
before ANYMORE spinoffs based on fucking westeros, we need a show that has plotlines in essos and sothoryos. Both are so damn big with so much more exciting, evil, magic, and monsters. Ulthos can be explored in tiny amounts just to leave us wanting more, but the 2 main plotlines should be essos and sothoryos. We've had enough westeros. Martin better write some books exploring these 2 places or have his assistants do it since he's too old. I don't want just west essos bcz we've seen that too and it's pretty similar to westeros and not mysterious at all.
Just imagine show with an exploration crew of main characters and minor characters venturing out into sothoryos only to discover all kinds of monsters, foreign people, diseases, and maybe magic.
I find it more than a bit odd that a Dragonrider traveled for 3 years and couldn't find the other side. That would make Southoryos like 300 times larger than the known map. It has to be either a mistake in canon or a case of misspeaking .
Even if it's 3 years, she came back, so it's actually 1.5 years each way.
But really, I think everything he was talking about is stories.
The more you venture east and south it seems like people know less of so they fill the gaps and dramatize what they saw.
@@PureInsanity It sounds like south america. long west coast. she chose the western coast to scout, wich is exactly someone trying to avoid the center of south america would do, and south america doesnt really have a southern coast, its western coast is extremely long and basically turns to a point. People say africa but, i think it has wayyy more in common with south america if you know some geography, the northern big jungles, the winding rivers throughout it. That represents the amazon to me. Also alot of places in game of thrones the first letter or prefix of the place will dictate its direction on the asoif globe. For instance westeros is west, essos east, so-thoryos im pretty sure is south. Like south america.
@@profo4544 you're trying so hard in so many comments tryna convince everyone that sothoryos is south america when it's clearly africa. Even Martin himself has said it's based off africa. Case closed. It sounds like you're triggered that he would dare use africa like this, so you're redirecting it to south america........which doesn't make you look any better morally
@@cephalonrolli5678 Then why didnt you state that in ur first comment? watd you go look that up ? what are u talking morals for lmao ? where u trying to bring this LMAO, it sounds like ur the one triggered lmao whatttt.
@@cephalonrolli5678 It does resemble South America though, why is that weird to you ? Alot of people think and thought this, i dont think anyones trying to win any moral ground here man, ur taking things a little to personal.
Always excited when i hear that intro!
It makes you wonder if there’s some magical apex beings to the extreme south like the white walkers in the extreme north
This is what HBO should have produced and call The Undiscovered countries.
I'm so looking forward to your future content on house of the dragon. you really do explain well a song of ice and fire but everyone you cover. keep up the good work.
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Love Essos far more interesting and mysterious then boring Westeros shame it’s not focused enough in any live action show, love to see Yi ti brought to life.
Maybe we’ll see it in the following spin-off shows
@@doc.emmetbrown8584 Bigger chance in seeing it than the Winds of Winter
The trouble with Sothoryos is that GRRM has made the place sooo dangerous and sooo deadly that it’s virtually impossible to explore. Any group of characters landing there will be quickly dispatched by disease, native, or wildlife.
Amazing video as always!
Awesome, please do more asoiaf videos
Is the Winds of Winter coming soon?
It’s been 84 years already.
It bugs me how Valyrians didn't see 10k ships passing by their territory neither with naval patrol nor dragon riders or they let them be to see what would happen to them if they tried to settle in Sothoryos like experiment
The mouth of the Rhoyne had several river paths leading out of it. The Rhoynar followed one that did not go near Valyrian territory.
@@CivilizationEx I just took it that it was the territory and resources and most fit of slaves they wanted and not the women, elderly and children as they would be more trouble than they're worth. In other words, they had bigger fish to fry.
George R. R. Martin isn't looking to explore/expand-on such lands anytime soon.
It was easy writing whole Bibles when he was broke. Now though life has changed with all the money, birds, jewelry and exotic Sports Cars.
Definitely inspirations from the old erupean perception of African
Sothoryos i think is supposed to come off like the amazon and south america, one of the targayens spent years riding the western coast, aerial on dragonback in search of the southern coast/edge, and never found it. Thats alot like south america, very long western coast, and a southern coast line that basically doesnt exist. Part of the reason why the Targaryen was able to safely scout it, for years, without having to deal with alot of the horrors were that on its western side, its mostly mountains, juuuust like south america. She flew for i think 2-3 years aerially in search of its southern coastline and never found it, assumed it was endless. She had to land every once in a while during those years to feed her dragon and rest, the western mountains of Sothoryos gave her the ability to do that. South americas western mountains are also known to have a unique wind element from it coming off the ocean that keep things airborne for a long time. It just totally makes sense to me that, sothoryos is modeled after south america. Also alot of places in game of thrones first letter or prefix will represent its location, for instance westeros (west), essos (east), So-thoryos i think is named after south. like South america. The northern giant jungle and winding rivers running through its northernmost area also just totally reflect the amazon, idk how more people dont pick up on this.
To add to that, the natives are said to practice cannibalism and make blood sacrifice, just like how the native people of south America were said to practice (although alot of what is said about that is exaggerated and coming from corrupt sources, the Aztec empire did practice ritualistic sacrifice) also their big cities seem very reminiscent of mezo-american cities, specifically the idea of abandoned cities hidden deep in the jungle, which could be referencing actual Mayan city ruins that have been found similarly
Also, while I like your idea for the reason why the dragon rider never found the southern edge, I am personally of the opinion that there was some magic shenanigans going on there, maybe with time dilation, maybe with space dilation, I don't know. We know apparently that Planetos is smaller than Earth, so considering how fast a dragon flies I can't imagine it taking 1.5 years (1.5 to the most south they could reach, 1.5 back) to be able to at least see the end ocean, seeing as people like Amelia Earhart were able to do loops of the earth in a couple of months at most
@@notlurking2128 well, i think she primarily used the western coast to travel, but she most likely criss crossed it aerially a bunch of times, she said it was desert and jungle and mountains just that dont end, and i africa has only 2 million km2 area covered by jungle/rainforest, its second only to amazonia wich has 6 million km2 covered. Quite a difference.
@@profo4544 that makes alot of sense! I hadn't thought of her criss-crossing the continent
@@notlurking2128 Yeah, for some reason alot of people have been getting up in arms about me comparing sothoryos to south america, over africa. Like its a racial thing or something its wild, im like ok here we go, and i have to explain to them geography like a 13 year old. Like dude, take a look at what continent has a northern giant jungle, with rivers winding thru it, UHHH definitly not africa, and that is primarily jungle, africa isnt primarily jungle first of all.. only ignorant people think that, like i said only 2 million km2 area of africa is rainforest/jungle, wich isnt alot concidering its size, the rest is mostly desert and dry climate. South america is has a rainforest/jungle area of over 3 times that of africa, its over 6 million km2 of area, and it also has dry areas and desert. So i think its south america, but people also think its a combination of both wich makes sense. The amazon and congo are some of the least explored jungle terrain in the world, in the 90s people thought there was a dinosaur in the congo lol.. But the amazon is rumored to literally have buried civilizations under all the plant growth, and its remote regions are just as unexplored and dangerous as the congo. Its the just the congo is a very dangerous area to visit alot of wars and stuff so theres that, while amazon has much more tourist activity. But it definitly has its unexplored areas, its very vast.
Hasn't this been posted like 8 times or am I crazy? Swear I watched this 2 Years ago
This is an updated version of a video I made several years ago.
So basically, Sothoryos is King Kong’s Skull Island, turned into a continent
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I like to think those who live deep into the continent are very civilized but are very good at hiding away from would be colonizers. My theory is that the people of Sothoryos probably have some protection magic that make it hard for intruders to settle while simultaneously giving life to the environment. So plants, trees, and the animals and insects probably all work to protect the people there. However, I would love to see a show about the inner workings of their political structures and how the game of thrones may be played on that continent as well. And there would inevitably be more folks who look like me, so that would be cool too. It’s high time folks get privy to fantasy that is inspired by other areas besides England and the Nordic Countries. Some of the most fascinating fantasy stories take place on other continents as well. 🤷🏾♂️ And I trust George to do his homework…if he even lives that long to do more stories 😬
Agreed. Personally i think my Nordic culture has been done to death in fantasy, and often poorly copied. African fantasy is a largely untapped well of inspiration that could easily be used and incorporated in the fantasy genre. Just wish writers and movie producers had the balls lol
@@seanthegrizz3983 I think you are wrong on that account. People associate a certain "vibe" to medieval England. This is probably because the fantasy genre largely started in England. With your Tolkiens and earlier King Arthur. Its only natural to write what you know best, and every writer is shaped by his/her environment.
They must be gods
@@arawn1061 the fantasy genre did not start “largely start in England”. Like what are you even saying? There are fantastical tales that have been written in Asia, Africa, South America, and by indigenous folks for centuries.
An example would be a the fantasy epic the “Enûma Eliš” which, get this, was written in ancient Babylon. Also, “The Tales of the Court of King Khufu” which contained many works in f fantasy was written in ancient Egypt… Now…That’s strange cause the last I checked, neither of those places are England. 💁🏾♂️🤷🏾♂️🤦🏾♂️ Now, the reason why you can make such an inane statement is a direct result of colonialism and a conscious effort to eradicate other cultures. Please do some research to inform your limited worldview because we can’t even begin to have an honest discussion if the starting point is based in propaganda and historical inaccuracies. 🤷🏾♂️💁🏾♂️
@@benjaminjenkins394 calm down Kang. I get it. You wuz Kangz n shite. None of what you mentioned is the root of modern fantasy. I get you are insecure about your ancestors culture not being the basis of modern culture. I get it. But none of what you mentioned is fantasy. Its mythology. The fantasy genre has a specific start in western Europe. And Western Europe is white, which reflects in the characters of western fantasy.
Now the fantasy genre has expanded since Tolkein. But when you consider characters ethnicities in fantasy stories you have to take into account the reality of how people looked. For example if you have a fantasy setting in "fantasy south Africa" you are not gonna have white skinned characters being common. Now modern fantasys roots are based on western mythology. And if you are living in the west thats what you are gonna see. The fact that you're ancestors lost your culture and had a minimal impact on the shape of western culture is not your fault.
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It's an update to an old video.
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Ulthos has big beaked people who can fly.
I thought he already did this one
This is an updated version of an old video.
So pretty much. Valyria is Rome, and ghis is carthage
Sothoryos is Africa before discovery of malaria and other antibiotics.
I’m convinced it’s Skull Island…
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I always thought it was a direct reference to South America and the Amazon, with the huge insects, snakes, diseases, parasites, native tribes..
Too bad this area will never be explored by anyone
Once george dies they are going to milk the series dry and probably explore every nook and cranny till people stop buying the books and watching the shows
Sounds like Australia! Yeah being silly.
Sothoryos is basically H.P.Lovecraft Island.
People saying this place is based of Africa are saying it centuries old stereotypes that Africa's a huge jungle with underdeveloped humans with spears 😂 it's funny actually
Sothorys is basically Jurassic Park
Skull island of king kong
Sothoryos is basically south America, Australia and africa in one
Westeros = West Europe
Beyond the Wall = Antartica
Essos = East Europe, Turkey, Russia, Middle East, China
Sothoryos = Africa, South America, Australia.
Ulthos = Unknown
Yi Ti= East Asia i.e. China, Japan, Korea....
Great Moraq I'd say is India
no.
Westeros = UK
Essos = Western Europe, Eastern Europe, Russia, China
Sothoryos = Africa
Ulthos = Australia
Ulthos... we don't know....
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Sooo, looks like it’s a heaven for furry?
Explore sothorios properly you'll find pyramids...
And following literally any version of this would have probably been more interesting than the same feudal knights and kings of every other fantasy story.
Bit harsh
@@Some_Call_Me_Pietro I'm still salty it all went to shit I suppose.
@@samwill7259 books are still pretty damn good
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