It’s interesting to think that if House Stark got the Targareyen Bride they were promised then not only would they be related to House Baratheon but all of the Stark descendants would have a similar claim to the Iron Throne
Meh, Orys Baratheon was literally The Conquerors bastard brother so Baratheons would always have a decent claim, but a Targaryen bride would give the offspring of said bride a claim but nobody after them.
@@CommanderOfRussia1 But isn’t that how Robert Baratheon was able to “Legally” claim the Throne though? I believe his Great Grandmother of some sorts like that, was a Targaryen, so he had a claim from being a descendant of one. That is why he wanted to Kill EVERY Targaryen, not only cause he hates them, but because each one had a rightful claim to the Iron Throne before him.
@@adam_clown Wasn’t a very good claim though, he just needed a legal reason to rebel. It’s funny how he started the war saying he would kill every Targaryen, but used his Targaryen grandmother as his claim to the throne. He didn’t plan on sitting the throne when he first rose up in rebellion I don’t think, but after the two year war it was easiest. As to killing Targaryens because of their claim, well any king would do the same to secure his house’s rule. Robert was a badass fighter none can doubt, but beyond that he was really an idiot.
Surprising how house Dustin remained loyal to the Starks, considering they were descendants of once the strongest house in the North before being defeated by the Starks
Setiawan Setiawan maybe they did it out of fear. Maybe the starks has a pact with the children and walker who would join the starks and help defeat their enemies.
Setiawan Setiawan I mean they are not as loyal anymore, Lady Barber Dustin never liked Ned Stark because he never returned the bones of her husband, Lord Dustin, who died at the Tower of Joy, so she is slightly more loyal to the Boltons
One thing to correct is 17:38 Willam Stark fell in battle but his brother Artos took command and personally slayed Raymund. Later, when the Watch arrived late, he had them clean the battlefield and burn the bodies as punishment for being late and the Lord Commander has since been known as Sleepy Jack for letting the Wildlings through in the first place
Legend say Torrhen was confident his brother can kill a dragon but 3 of them? The odds were against him. And don't think its too impossible since once you ground a dragon with nets and weights they can be killed like any beasts
when bran meets the three eyed raven he sees a vision of past when a furious young man(brandon snow) enters the godswood and snatches branches from weirwood tree shaping them into 3 arrows to kill the dragons.... significance of this vision in ADWD book is to educate starks how to kill dragons if they need to....
5:58 I love it when you reuse pictures from your Lord of the Rings videos, not an accusation, just fun seeing your awesome illustration of Eru Ilúvatar pop up as the central god of the faith of the seven
@@johnpascua3351 But it's still considered a magic sword. Anyway it doesn't matter, I wasn't expecting the Night King to be killed by what created him in the first place.
I am going to reiterate what others have said--incredible work man! This really must take a long time and it shows. Great job for those of us seeking a little entertainment :P
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When you put a pic of the “others” on screen there was a wolf and it looks just how Ghost did at the end of season 8 with the missing ear and wound on his side! So crazy bc this came before that ep lol
"The Northmen are rumored to have killed 3000 warriors ina day." Taken straight from spanish chronicles during the conquest of the americas. They said the Aztecs would sacrifice up to 5000 people a day there or about. They ridiculously up played the sacrifices by aztecs but still the point is, G,R,R,M knows his history and often mimics it in his tales. Think of the layout of england, Hadrens Wall to the north kept the wild pictish folk from invading the romans that moved in to the south. The romans could never quite conquer the north so they left it alone and built a wall to keep the demons covered in tattoos in the north. Alot like the wildlings. But fastforward british history to Saxon invasions and you have the first men, norman invasion and you have the Andales, the ironborn could easily be viking raiders, or irish lololol. haha. I love the history twists G.R.R.M writes.
Wouldn't the Andals be the Saxons though and the first men the celts? The celts aren't native to Britain so the crossing over makes sense for the first men and the whole thing about a bunch of kingdoms being established until only seven remained is similar to the actual Saxon invasion.
I think the first men are supposed to be equivalent to the britons (celts), Andals are supposed to be Ango-Saxons (+ the ever forgotten Jutes), and the Targaryens being the normans. I do agree with you on the ironborn being somewhat similar to thew vikings though. To me it sort of seems like both the North and the Iron Islands share a lot in common with the Scandinavians
Good stuff, man! I just thought of something... what if Rhaegar was given to Lyanna Stark to fulfill the Pact of Ice and Fire? And then, once again, history remembered it wrong?
Im pretty sure thats the case. Jon Snow being Lyanna and Rhaegar's kid is Ice and Fire. Rhaegar even appears in Dany's vision looking over a child saying "his is the song of ice and fire"
Notorious he saved the north, if he didn’t kneel than the would have been destroyed. But men like Cregan stark should have declared independence after the dance with dragons.
@@MM-xm5vx he probably didn't declare independence because of their dragons, Although many dragons died during that time there were still dragon eggs which could potentially hatch big dragons and following his ancestor Torrehn Stark he chose to not take the chance of letting his people die in a hopeless battle against dragons. Only if they knew that those were the last dragon threat they had.
rickard stark was intersted in southern politics thats why he chose a tully bride for his son brandon and from there starks started going down... you know genetics shit and all... northmen were supposed to be strong and stern men not weaklings like neds children...
What’s interesting to me is that the people of Yi Ti say that during the long night they were attacked by demons. Well the legends of westeros were true, so what happened over in Yi Ti?
Can you guys please make a star wars video on viciat,valkorion and the Jedi who killed him. Make it long like the revan one. Could you also make one about Darth malgus and the first jedis. You guys make the best videos and can’t wait for your great star wars vids
@@jonathonwellinger9529 Just go to Reddit or Google it. But first go to awoiaf.westeros.org. westeros is similar to that of the 14th or 15th century of Europe. North is similar to that of Scotland and North of England.
@@Brandonhayhew GRR Martin is very inspired by history, and since Westeros parallels Great Britain in many ways, Scotland and the North end up having a lot of similarities, especially medieval Scotland
I feel sorry for everyone who doesn't know about CivilizationEx. I love this shit more than any tv show at this point. At first I thought the cartoons where slightly corny, then I realised how epic they are. I love love love. Wish I could buy you steaks for dinner
3 years later and I'm still watching his videos. I know I've seen his before years back when looking for GoT lore. UA-cam clips and the start of finally reading the first book has me curious.
Anyone else think agaeon would have saved himself and his house a while whole load of trouble if he'd just let everyone stay kings and called himself emperor, of great king, or high king or king of kings or whatever?
First of all, these videos are great! I haven't checked the timelines between this and your video on the Andals but I have a legit question or two if you ever see this! I was under the impression that it was the Andals who were slaughtering the Children in a much worse way than the First Men. The man turned by the Children against the weirwood tree in the spiral of stones had blonde hair - why would anyone indigenous to the north have blonde hair? I guess my question is, was the Night King an Andal or a Northerner? Seems strange that the Children would hate the Northerners after they adopted worship of the Weirwood trees - surely the people who were "cutting down the trees and slaughtering the Children" as said by the Child to Bran in the show were Andals and not Northerners? But then how did the Andals get that far as they never succeeded in taking the North? And was the Long Night before the Andal invasion? Anything you can say to clear this up would be great as I have a feeling the new writers for the show may never give us this kind of closure (GRR Martin didn't want a typical good vs evil story but maybe Hollywood does?)
The show is a bit different from the books, but I will try to clarify from a book POV. The First Men were the first ones to fight a war against the Children. They killed them, took their lands and burned their trees. After 2000 years of fighting they signed a peace. The books haven't mentioned how the White Walkers were created, but if the show is accurate, then it is most likely that the children created them when they were fighting the First Men, because after they signed their peace came the Long Night, when the First Men and Children teamed together to fight them. Up to this point no Andals were in Westeros as far as we know. Many years after the White Walkers were defeated, the Andals invaded and started a war with both the children and first men. They were so ruthless the Children practically went extinct. But from the known timeline the White Walkers already existed at this point, so they most likely were made from First Men. I suggest checking out my timeline when you can, it clarifies the order of everything. :)
@@CivilizationEx Thanks A lot, maybe that guy wasn't as blonde as I remember him ha! I will check out that timeline video immediately! It really speaks volumes about your dedication that you would respond to little ol' me so quickly and so long after the video was uploaded. You're doing the Lord of Light's work, friend!
Nope, there are like crocodiles but we don't know more... Maybe they are not even crocodilians and they are real giant lizards, also, unlike crocodiles they have sharp teeth.
It’s interesting to think that if House Stark got the Targareyen Bride they were promised then not only would they be related to House Baratheon but all of the Stark descendants would have a similar claim to the Iron Throne
LoneStarWolf Entertainment and they would have potential wolf dreams and dragon dreams.
True but Robert grandmother was a targaryen so we had a direct connection not just a targaryen ancestor
Meh, Orys Baratheon was literally The Conquerors bastard brother so Baratheons would always have a decent claim, but a Targaryen bride would give the offspring of said bride a claim but nobody after them.
@@CommanderOfRussia1 But isn’t that how Robert Baratheon was able to “Legally” claim the Throne though? I believe his Great Grandmother of some sorts like that, was a Targaryen, so he had a claim from being a descendant of one. That is why he wanted to Kill EVERY Targaryen, not only cause he hates them, but because each one had a rightful claim to the Iron Throne before him.
@@adam_clown Wasn’t a very good claim though, he just needed a legal reason to rebel. It’s funny how he started the war saying he would kill every Targaryen, but used his Targaryen grandmother as his claim to the throne. He didn’t plan on sitting the throne when he first rose up in rebellion I don’t think, but after the two year war it was easiest. As to killing Targaryens because of their claim, well any king would do the same to secure his house’s rule. Robert was a badass fighter none can doubt, but beyond that he was really an idiot.
Your videos are so underrated, this must have took so much work. The art, the music, the research and the script. Quality content man 🙂
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I've been watching a few simular "history of Westeros" video's now , And have to agree this one is the most comprihencive of them all.
The voice is too nasal and monotone for wide appeal.. Sorry Civ.
@@AnimatedStoriesWorldwide confusing vocal fry with nasal voice, F, sit down.
I agree. They are amazing.
I love Essos, I’m so happy that GRRM doesn’t make Westeros seem like the only place in the world that matters
Surprising how house Dustin remained loyal to the Starks, considering they were descendants of once the strongest house in the North before being defeated by the Starks
Setiawan Setiawan maybe they did it out of fear. Maybe the starks has a pact with the children and walker who would join the starks and help defeat their enemies.
Setiawan Setiawan I mean they are not as loyal anymore, Lady Barber Dustin never liked Ned Stark because he never returned the bones of her husband, Lord Dustin, who died at the Tower of Joy, so she is slightly more loyal to the Boltons
If you can't beat them, join them.
One thing to correct is 17:38 Willam Stark fell in battle but his brother Artos took command and personally slayed Raymund. Later, when the Watch arrived late, he had them clean the battlefield and burn the bodies as punishment for being late and the Lord Commander has since been known as Sleepy Jack for letting the Wildlings through in the first place
13:06 - 13:11 He wanted to do what? This man is either incredibly brave or incredibly stupid.
Rafayet Rahman Ratul incredibly brave.. he knew the danger
He was hoping to wise weirwood arrows, probably using power of the oldgods.
Legend say Torrhen was confident his brother can kill a dragon but 3 of them? The odds were against him. And don't think its too impossible since once you ground a dragon with nets and weights they can be killed like any beasts
when bran meets the three eyed raven he sees a vision of past when a furious young man(brandon snow) enters the godswood and snatches branches from weirwood tree shaping them into 3 arrows to kill the dragons....
significance of this vision in ADWD book is to educate starks how to kill dragons if they need to....
Again killed it man I knew most of this but nice you put time and effort in to explain in detail never get tired of your stuff
Thank you! This is beautiful! The story telling was so engaging that I didn't notice the video was about to end! Good job!
5:58 I love it when you reuse pictures from your Lord of the Rings videos, not an accusation, just fun seeing your awesome illustration of Eru Ilúvatar pop up as the central god of the faith of the seven
13:40 Your illustration of one of the men of the north has become one of the northmen
I'm glad you decided to do these videos for the North.
Edd stark even gave back dawn to Arthur daynes family like he was a very honourable man
It would be cool if Jon was given Dawn to fight against the Night King.
saljpal3 It’s not Valyrian steel though. It’s made from a meteorite
@@johnpascua3351 But it's still considered a magic sword. Anyway it doesn't matter, I wasn't expecting the Night King to be killed by what created him in the first place.
Ayeee civilization mah boi. Keep up the good work bro. I’m here for every video.
Even though the Starks didn't get their princess they did get a prince in the end
not really because he fucked off to the lands beyond the wall
This is so well done
One of the best GoT videos I’ve ever seen 👏👏 Extremely informative
Been a while since I've been on these kinds of channels. Season 8 just took it out of me.
Good job on this one man! Very well done!
I am going to reiterate what others have said--incredible work man! This really must take a long time and it shows. Great job for those of us seeking a little entertainment :P
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CivilizationEx can you do a history of war of wrath but showing time and map?
When you put a pic of the “others” on screen there was a wolf and it looks just how Ghost did at the end of season 8 with the missing ear and wound on his side! So crazy bc this came before that ep lol
This mans videos are quite under rated
never been so happy to press that subscribe button.
5:57 Eru Iluvatar? :O
Right?! I couldn't be the only one who noticed that. I loved it. It gave me a chuckle. :)
22:40
YES, FUCKING YES, PREACH IT, SING IT, YELL IT
STANNIS! STANNIS!! STANNIS!!!!!!!
I to like the way you break down the lore of A Song of Ice , and Fire.
Nice Eru Illúvatar reference being used as a visual for the Andal's god 😉
Best ASOIAF lore channel
"The Northmen are rumored to have killed 3000 warriors ina day." Taken straight from spanish chronicles during the conquest of the americas. They said the Aztecs would sacrifice up to 5000 people a day there or about. They ridiculously up played the sacrifices by aztecs but still the point is, G,R,R,M knows his history and often mimics it in his tales. Think of the layout of england, Hadrens Wall to the north kept the wild pictish folk from invading the romans that moved in to the south. The romans could never quite conquer the north so they left it alone and built a wall to keep the demons covered in tattoos in the north. Alot like the wildlings. But fastforward british history to Saxon invasions and you have the first men, norman invasion and you have the Andales, the ironborn could easily be viking raiders, or irish lololol. haha. I love the history twists G.R.R.M writes.
Wouldn't the Andals be the Saxons though and the first men the celts? The celts aren't native to Britain so the crossing over makes sense for the first men and the whole thing about a bunch of kingdoms being established until only seven remained is similar to the actual Saxon invasion.
I think the first men are supposed to be equivalent to the britons (celts), Andals are supposed to be Ango-Saxons (+ the ever forgotten Jutes), and the Targaryens being the normans. I do agree with you on the ironborn being somewhat similar to thew vikings though. To me it sort of seems like both the North and the Iron Islands share a lot in common with the Scandinavians
@@simonkemfors wow yeah completely forgot Jutes invaded aswell. Probably cause it doesn't have the same ring
@@TheAztecGamer123 yeah, how do you even include that in the word anglosaxon
@@simonkemfors hence why its ignored. Really sad for the Jutes
These are sooooooo good. I’ve been binging them all.
Good stuff, man! I just thought of something... what if Rhaegar was given to Lyanna Stark to fulfill the Pact of Ice and Fire? And then, once again, history remembered it wrong?
Im pretty sure thats the case. Jon Snow being Lyanna and Rhaegar's kid is Ice and Fire. Rhaegar even appears in Dany's vision looking over a child saying "his is the song of ice and fire"
A Targaryen GIRL would be given to the Starks. Not a boy
@@NTLuck I don't think it matters especially if there's no girl available
The Starks really did fall off, they used to be powerful
Tony Flamingo you can blame the honorable fool Ned Stark for putting in motion the Stark’s descent in power
Notorious he saved the north, if he didn’t kneel than the would have been destroyed. But men like Cregan stark should have declared independence after the dance with dragons.
@@MM-xm5vx he probably didn't declare independence because of their dragons, Although many dragons died during that time there were still dragon eggs which could potentially hatch big dragons and following his ancestor Torrehn Stark he chose to not take the chance of letting his people die in a hopeless battle against dragons. Only if they knew that those were the last dragon threat they had.
rickard stark was intersted in southern politics thats why he chose a tully bride for his son brandon and from there starks started going down... you know genetics shit and all... northmen were supposed to be strong and stern men not weaklings like neds children...
Your videos are so interesting my man.
World Council Seoul Guide Medical loves your channel
I would like to know more the Skagosi and there rebellion in a video on just that if thats possible lol
Man, the old king guard was soooo cool. Dayne etc
The north is my favorite part of this world, the deepest and most interesting exposition imo
I'd love to see an updated version of this.
Go ahead
What’s interesting to me is that the people of Yi Ti say that during the long night they were attacked by demons.
Well the legends of westeros were true, so what happened over in Yi Ti?
Theory that the "Land of Always Winter" expands to Essos, and so the "Others" were able to go over there as well
Can you guys please make a star wars video on viciat,valkorion and the Jedi who killed him. Make it long like the revan one. Could you also make one about Darth malgus and the first jedis. You guys make the best videos and can’t wait for your great star wars vids
This man Ned had to be the most honorable person in Westeros history.. Anybody could have took the Sword of Dawn n ran off with it.
Dam. There’s so much history they could make a few more series of shows! How many books are there??
So far there is 5 novels, 1 history book, 1 geography book, 3 prequel books and several short stories.
The Summery of The North is kinda Similar to that of Scotland?
please tell me more ... you have my interest
@@jonathonwellinger9529 Just go to Reddit or Google it. But first go to awoiaf.westeros.org. westeros is similar to that of the 14th or 15th century of Europe. North is similar to that of Scotland and North of England.
I think that is very intentional
@@simonkemfors explain?
@@Brandonhayhew GRR Martin is very inspired by history, and since Westeros parallels Great Britain in many ways, Scotland and the North end up having a lot of similarities, especially medieval Scotland
Love the videos
The voice of this man makes me happy
If you had to pick a region to live in, not as a noble, but as a commoner?
I'd go with the Reach for sure
I feel sorry for everyone who doesn't know about CivilizationEx. I love this shit more than any tv show at this point. At first I thought the cartoons where slightly corny, then I realised how epic they are. I love love love. Wish I could buy you steaks for dinner
3 years later and I'm still watching his videos. I know I've seen his before years back when looking for GoT lore. UA-cam clips and the start of finally reading the first book has me curious.
You serious? The cartoons are the BEST part of his channel!
I didn't start watching this channel until HoTD was announced. I love these videos.
Imagine a 10 year summer in texas or arizona or new mexico...nah that ain’t for me
10 years lol small potatos more like 1000s 😂 yes but i can picture it & thats a nightmare. Avoid Dorne
Anyone else think agaeon would have saved himself and his house a while whole load of trouble if he'd just let everyone stay kings and called himself emperor, of great king, or high king or king of kings or whatever?
I love the stark's history, wish we had more details.
4:34 Did you say the Marsh King wielded a Frog Spear? say what
The dude pretty much rode a giant alligator and wielded a giant fork. A frog spear is a 4 to 5 tipped spear.
The North remembers.
And if if they forget Arya will slit their throats. 😄
The Starks should’ve axed the boltons a long time ago. They were just waiting for an opportunity to undermine them
what book i can find this informations ?
The north remembers
I wonder what Westerosi history would be like if the Children Of The Forest succeeded in sinking the Neck into the sea
Do House Targareyn History next.
Plz finish this now !!!
So what is this basically?
The one true King Stannis Baratheon will destroy the Boltons and avenge the Red Wedding
😂😂😂😂😂
Do we know who built Mott cailin.
First of all, these videos are great!
I haven't checked the timelines between this and your video on the Andals but I have a legit question or two if you ever see this! I was under the impression that it was the Andals who were slaughtering the Children in a much worse way than the First Men. The man turned by the Children against the weirwood tree in the spiral of stones had blonde hair - why would anyone indigenous to the north have blonde hair? I guess my question is, was the Night King an Andal or a Northerner? Seems strange that the Children would hate the Northerners after they adopted worship of the Weirwood trees - surely the people who were "cutting down the trees and slaughtering the Children" as said by the Child to Bran in the show were Andals and not Northerners? But then how did the Andals get that far as they never succeeded in taking the North? And was the Long Night before the Andal invasion? Anything you can say to clear this up would be great as I have a feeling the new writers for the show may never give us this kind of closure (GRR Martin didn't want a typical good vs evil story but maybe Hollywood does?)
The show is a bit different from the books, but I will try to clarify from a book POV.
The First Men were the first ones to fight a war against the Children. They killed them, took their lands and burned their trees. After 2000 years of fighting they signed a peace. The books haven't mentioned how the White Walkers were created, but if the show is accurate, then it is most likely that the children created them when they were fighting the First Men, because after they signed their peace came the Long Night, when the First Men and Children teamed together to fight them. Up to this point no Andals were in Westeros as far as we know. Many years after the White Walkers were defeated, the Andals invaded and started a war with both the children and first men. They were so ruthless the Children practically went extinct. But from the known timeline the White Walkers already existed at this point, so they most likely were made from First Men.
I suggest checking out my timeline when you can, it clarifies the order of everything. :)
@@CivilizationEx Thanks A lot, maybe that guy wasn't as blonde as I remember him ha! I will check out that timeline video immediately! It really speaks volumes about your dedication that you would respond to little ol' me so quickly and so long after the video was uploaded. You're doing the Lord of Light's work, friend!
@@graysaltine6035 :)
i enjoyed the video but you should try putting a little more emotion in your voice, i think that would make the videos perfect ^^
Retrìca yeah it’s kinda spooky ngl
Is the arm of Dorne the world’s equator?
Nice
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CivilizationEx sounds good. For some reason I didn’t get a notification for your comment. That was weird.
Worth all the gold in Casterly Rock, losing my gmails to resubscribe and relike all these videos
Not Robert Baratheon it's Bobby B has a better ring to it.
CivEx!!!
22:40 Stannis is Robert's older brother
robinbuster actually Robert is older otherwise he would not be the lord of storm’s end when their parents died.
@@nicholasloremann4741 you are right
In order to be more similar to the show you should have included some nudity. Then it truly would be GoT.
Damn dog....why ya gotta do lyannas eyebrows like that
Why did they call it the 'Thousand Year War' despite it only spanning 200 years?
Because the '200 Year War' didn't sound badass enough.
The Starks were much more brutal in the old days
"lizard lions"
you mean crocodiles?
Nope, there are like crocodiles but we don't know more... Maybe they are not even crocodilians and they are real giant lizards, also, unlike crocodiles they have sharp teeth.
@@diegoolivaresgonzalez42 ''unlike crocodiles they have sharp teeth''
are you high or you just never saw crocodilian teeth?
@@rekoken2911 Sharp like a dagger I mean, crocodile teeth can not cut meat... that's why they have to spin arround in order to tear meat pieces.
14:20
"Kidnapped" indeed. 😁
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I know how to help you but you must not defy your lord , Ezekiel. 🐉🐉🐉
How exactly, can ANY religion in this fictional verse be called "pagan"?
I mean REALLY?
ONE MAN
Dude you are so fucking talented!
The men of Big Feet.
Hobbits?
Da king in the norf
Prince EMOgar Targaryen
So the
First Men were the Romans
Andals were the Saxons
and the
Normans are the Valyrians
Amazing
If anything, the Valyrians are the Romans. The empire they had is very Imperium Romanorum
This wouldn’t be a great show 😊
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