I placed order for edge HD last October and still waiting, ETA is late Sep 2023 ! Almost a year and no guarantees it will come. Crazy, got my car in 4 months.
Hi Ken, I have just got into astronomy (as well as attempting some astrophotography in the near future) and I have just bought an Edge HD 8" I wanted to say a big thank you for posting this series of videos, not only for the taking of and processing of photos but mainly for the initial setting up of the scope. For a real novice like me it all seems quite daunting reading about setup. Actually watching and listening to someone proficient setting up from the start to finish has been immensely helpful for me. I am sure you have stopped me from making a lot of mistakes a newbie would make. Thank you again and clear skies
THANK YOU!! so much Ken for the great video. I have been reviewing your video now for the 20th time :). Sorry I'm very NEW with telescopes. I always wanted a telescope and I finally bought my 1st telescope ever. I ended up purchasing the Celestron 8" EdgeHD with the CGEM mount. Yes I know its a little bit over my SKILLZ but I will master it with you and others. So now I play the waiting game on UPS to come to my house on 10/27/15. Thanks again Ken
New to astrophotography. Thank you for the tutorial. Extremely helpful. If I may, could you include the photo adapter info and T ring for the canon camera. I cant seem to find one that looks like the photo adapter in your video.
The irony of the person taking the video toward the light instead of from the opposite angle so the subject would be lit... funny. Informative video. Thanks.
What's the backfocus of the focal reducer to the camera for this instrument, is it much different from the backfocus of the Nexstar 8SE with f/6.3 reducer?
Ken, for backyard observation and then doing some imaging, from a light polluted (30 minutes from main city center), and using my cannon 5D markii, would you recommend a smaller refractor (4" to 6"), this set up you showing here, or the edge 9.5"? I will be moving it in and out of my house to the backyard. Thanks!
Excellent demonstration and set up. I have the celestron nexstar evolution 9.25 model. It doesn't require an autoguider as the more stars you align to it becomes more accurate :)
Hi Ken, I like your videos, very well presented. Can I ask, should the T-adapter 'extension' be removed if you're using the .7 Reducer; to maintain the best back focus. I noticed you left the T-adapter and extension attached when putting on the camera.
Hi Ken. I am looking at getting a new mount for astrophotography and came across your videos. My two options right now are the Skywatcher EQ6 and the AVX but the lack of a hand controller is a bit of a turn off on the skywatcher but in the same breath, the payload that the AVX can handle is another put of on that end. How have you found imaging with the AVX, especially with the payload. I am looking to use a meade 8" SCT and more often my 6SE's SCT with my nexguide camera and 70mm travelscope as a guidescope. Any advise you have would be greatly appreciated. Clear Skies. Amith.
Great series! Listened to all 4 tonight. Questions, what was the name of the app used to confirm the polar alignment on phone? Did you use a camera with the HA filter taken out? Are you using same softwares today given this is a few years old? Thx much!
Great video Ken. The finder has been modified to accept the Orion Star Shooter with an adapter ring. Where does one purchase the adapter or does one come with the autoguider?
You can use ASPA which is already built in to your handset to Polar align your mount pretty accurately, removing the need for the Polar 'scope or for you to lean on the concrete with your hands and knees cricking your neck up...Nice video BTW.
Hello, from a visual observing point of view, would you say the Edge HD OTA's are better than the regular XLT's? I'm trying to decide between the Celestron CPC 9.25 Edge HD or the CPC 11' XLT, on one hand i get larger aperture with the 11, but would the 9.25 Edge produce the same or better visualy? what are your thoughts thanks
I'm looking to buy a second telescope for long-exposure astroimaging that is compact enough to be taken out into the countryside, and this particular model seems ideal for me. My only concern, however, is the polar alignment procedure. I'm used to manually orienting my Newtonian SkyWatcher to the home position using R.A. and DEC setting circles and a pocket spirit level. Does the advanced VX mount come with R.A. and DEC setting circles or does it follow a different alignment method? In other words, can it be aligned and electronically track objects accurately enough for me to capture long-exposures or is an autoguider required for that purpose? I hope that made sense.
I was going to ask you a question Ken,about the orion auto guider with Adapter ring,but I see you don`t answer any questions ,folks are only asking you for a bit of help.?
@@thomasfox8027 guys! Ken From now runs a business in Alberta and Edmonton, Alberta, Canada. The business is called All-Star Telescopes......he is really busy with orders and international telescope orders and does not have the time to run his UA-cam channel. There are other amateur astronomers with similar setups and UA-cam channels you can tap into 👓🎓🔭
Hi Ken, I own a AVX mount and recently purchased an 8" Edge HD for astrophotography. My concern is that the mount may not be strong enough to carry that much weight and still be precise it its tracking. Even with short 500mm focal lengths, I often need to toss half of my subs because of tracking inaccuracies. Do I need to hypertune the mount? What can I do to make it function as perfectly as possible? Thanks, Martin
david Hirshhorn Yep. You just need the t-adapter for the edge HD- www.celestron.com/browse-shop/astronomy/astroimaging-accessories/t-rings-and-adapters/t-adapter,-(edgehd-8) And a t-ring for a canon camera- www.celestron.com/browse-shop/astronomy/astroimaging-accessories/t-rings-and-adapters/t-ring-for-canon-eos-camera
How much does your ota, camera, etc weigh? The avx is capable of a 30lb payload and the ota itself weighs around 13lbs but it doesn’t appear you have any difficulties tracking accurately even though you seem to to be very close if not over the 50% payload sweet spot so many AP people speak about.
Hi, I have the same equipment as you. I didn´t start taking deep sky photos yet, but I will soon. My question is, does this mount support exposures of more than 5 minutes with all the equipment or will I have to buy a HEQ5 or a NEQ6 mount for exposures of more than 6 or even 10 minutes?
Hi Florin, The mount you have is more than capable of doing 5min exposures(even more) provided that you have an auto-guiding system. If you're doing this without at autoguider than it can become quite difficult. You can probably do 1-2min exposures with the Edge HD's focal length if you have really really really good polar alignment and mount balancing
So what exactly is the adapter ring you used for the auto guider. I have a QHY5L that I'd like to use for guiding but I need the adapter ring. It's standard 1.25"
No difficulties at all if your using a 4" to 14" but if you don't have a large enough back yard it can be difficult to transport and 8" to 14" to a dark location if you don't have a car :)
thanks, I bought a Celestron 8 last summer and took it on vacation from NY to Utah for dark skies, previous scope was 4.5 inch, and wanted to get into astrophotography.. good vid! Dark skies to you!
F Fighter I had the same question and decided to bite the bullet, get the parts and figure out how to put them together. Short story is that you need one of these: agenaastro.com/blue-fireball-t-t2-male-sct-male-m48-female-adapter-t-07.html My setup is: Celestron 9x50 finder (part #51611) that shipped with my CGEM 800 HD Blue Fireball adapter Orion Starshoot Autoguider For anyone looking to pair the SSAG with a different scope, note that the SSAG attaches to the T / T2 male thread (M42x0.75) on the adapter. You will just need to find out how to mate that to your scope. Hope this helps!
VinnieB Thank for the info. I will have to give it a try. I have another question that maybe you can answer. I also have the polar scope, and its almost impossible to see the map inside unless I shine a red light in the front. This guy seems to have no issue. Maybe Im doing something wrong?
Robert Desoto Happy to help. I don't own the Polar Finder, so I can't comment from first hand experience. I have read about others having to use a flashlight for illumination but not sure how that works out. If I had to give it a try I would use a red light like you suggest.
you can. they sell t-adapters with a barlow built in, or there are televue (IIRC) adapters with magnification as well. Better for planetary/lunar/solar imaging than wider field deep space, from what I understand.
In other words, the video camera is adjusting to the light behind you. If you shoot with the light behind you, it'll look better. PS Very informative video....thank you!!
When I watch videos that others make, I do not criticize or make suggestions. I think it is rude. Especially when this man took the time to share his knowledge and experience. If you don't like what you are seeing then stop watching.
+crankabit If you're going to make a how-to video you really do need to make sure your exposure and lighting is sufficient. Especially when you're showing people how to do various balancing and setup of a nice piece of equipment like this. What Ken is saying is interesting and well presented, however I have to save more thought could have gone into the filming. There's a difference between criticism and constructive feedback.
I don't think it's rude. It's actually helpful, so next videos could be with better quality. For me it's not a problem, but why not better, when it's possible?
if you have any nugatory near you mount undoing things you take you counter weight bar and give them the golden rivet with the weight attached now i dont know about you but i would think twice about touching another mans mount is just wrong :P
Right, because producing amateur high quality images of the cosmos and doing basic observations of celestial bodies is such a waste of time. In fact, why don't we just label everything that people try doing on their own, something thats a waste of time.
Not actually true, it is not a waste of time. It would be nice if you could attend free university outreach lectures & stargazing events to broaden your knowledge. Astronomers, astrophysicist & scientists receive a lot of a data from amateur astronomers which helps and speeds up their research. Some significant discoveries has been made from amateur astronomers :)
There are a lot of young amateur astronomers around the world not just retired gentle men. Also astronomy set up is as delicate as surgery because everything has to be spot on in order for the telescope to perform as it should :)
I placed order for edge HD last October and still waiting, ETA is late Sep 2023 ! Almost a year and no guarantees it will come. Crazy, got my car in 4 months.
Hi Ken,
I have just got into astronomy (as well as attempting some astrophotography in the near future) and I have just bought an Edge HD 8"
I wanted to say a big thank you for posting this series of videos, not only for the taking of and processing of photos but mainly for the initial setting up of the scope. For a real novice like me it all seems quite daunting reading about setup. Actually watching and listening to someone proficient setting up from the start to finish has been immensely helpful for me. I am sure you have stopped me from making a lot of mistakes a newbie would make.
Thank you again and clear skies
THANK YOU!! so much Ken for the great video. I have been reviewing your video now for the 20th time :). Sorry I'm very NEW with telescopes. I always wanted a telescope and I finally bought my 1st telescope ever. I ended up purchasing the Celestron 8" EdgeHD with the CGEM mount. Yes I know its a little bit over my SKILLZ but I will master it with you and others. So now I play the waiting game on UPS to come to my house on 10/27/15. Thanks again Ken
Its a good thing that Ken keeps up with his FANS more then his business. Keep up the great work
www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/681781-REG/Celestron_11080_CGEM_800_HD_Computerized.html
New to astrophotography. Thank you for the tutorial. Extremely helpful. If I may, could you include the photo adapter info and T ring for the canon camera. I cant seem to find one that looks like the photo adapter in your video.
Grazie Ken per la aiuta, cieli chiari profesor!
The irony of the person taking the video toward the light instead of from the opposite angle so the subject would be lit... funny.
Informative video. Thanks.
What's the backfocus of the focal reducer to the camera for this instrument, is it much different from the backfocus of the Nexstar 8SE with f/6.3 reducer?
Pretty much the same 🔭
Ken, for backyard observation and then doing some imaging, from a light polluted (30 minutes from main city center), and using my cannon 5D markii, would you recommend a smaller refractor (4" to 6"), this set up you showing here, or the edge 9.5"? I will be moving it in and out of my house to the backyard.
Thanks!
Excellent demonstration and set up. I have the celestron nexstar evolution 9.25 model. It doesn't require an autoguider as the more stars you align to it becomes more accurate :)
Notts boy24 Keep believing that... 😏
It works perfectly, I love the new innovation celestron has applied to this new telescope :)
i love such videos! keep them coming!
Hi Ken, I like your videos, very well presented. Can I ask, should the T-adapter 'extension' be removed if you're using the .7 Reducer; to maintain the best back focus. I noticed you left the T-adapter and extension attached when putting on the camera.
What size thread does the camera end of the reducer accept? M48M?
The thread is compatible with both Canon and Nikon T-rings 🔭
Hi I have a Nikon d3400 but can't seem to find the correct settings to get good results. Can you help with camera settings.
It depends what you are imaging and what type of telescope you are using!
I'd also like to know if that's an off-the-shelf adapter to get the Orion StarShoot to fit into the stock standard Celestron finderscope.
Cody Konior Ken, could you address this question, I would like to know the answer as well.
Hi Ken. I am looking at getting a new mount for astrophotography and came across your videos. My two options right now are the Skywatcher EQ6 and the AVX but the lack of a hand controller is a bit of a turn off on the skywatcher but in the same breath, the payload that the AVX can handle is another put of on that end. How have you found imaging with the AVX, especially with the payload. I am looking to use a meade 8" SCT and more often my 6SE's SCT with my nexguide camera and 70mm travelscope as a guidescope. Any advise you have would be greatly appreciated. Clear Skies. Amith.
Great series! Listened to all 4 tonight. Questions, what was the name of the app used to confirm the polar alignment on phone? Did you use a camera with the HA filter taken out? Are you using same softwares today given this is a few years old? Thx much!
This setup would not work with a 9 and a quarter SCT ? or would it ? (same mount)
Yes a 9 25" telescope can be mounted and set up the same as the 8" Edge HD 🔭
Great video Ken. The finder has been modified to accept the Orion Star Shooter with an adapter ring. Where does one purchase the adapter or does one come with the autoguider?
www.all-startelescope.com/sales/product_info.php?products_id=829
You can use ASPA which is already built in to your handset to Polar align your mount pretty accurately, removing the need for the Polar 'scope or for you to lean on the concrete with your hands and knees cricking your neck up...Nice video BTW.
Very good set of videos.
Regarding the Autoguider adaptation to the starpointer that comes with the telescope. What it is needed ?
You mention an adapter ring in the video
Any particular part easily fond in any shop?
photo adapter for the right spacing. How do I find put which adapter t use?
Hello, from a visual observing point of view, would you say the Edge HD OTA's are better than the regular XLT's? I'm trying to decide between the Celestron CPC 9.25 Edge HD or the CPC 11' XLT, on one hand i get larger aperture with the 11, but would the 9.25 Edge produce the same or better visualy? what are your thoughts thanks
I'm looking to buy a second telescope for long-exposure astroimaging that is compact enough to be taken out into the countryside, and this particular model seems ideal for me. My only concern, however, is the polar alignment procedure. I'm used to manually orienting my Newtonian SkyWatcher to the home position using R.A. and DEC setting circles and a pocket spirit level. Does the advanced VX mount come with R.A. and DEC setting circles or does it follow a different alignment method? In other words, can it be aligned and electronically track objects accurately enough for me to capture long-exposures or is an autoguider required for that purpose? I hope that made sense.
Hi Ken i heard you say it works on crop sensor camera but does it work just as well on a full frame like with a 6D ?
I was going to ask you a question Ken,about the orion auto guider with Adapter ring,but I see you don`t answer any questions ,folks are only asking you for a bit of help.?
Six years later and still no answer. Sad. Lol
@@thomasfox8027 guys! Ken From now runs a business in Alberta and Edmonton, Alberta, Canada. The business is called All-Star Telescopes......he is really busy with orders and international telescope orders and does not have the time to run his UA-cam channel. There are other amateur astronomers with similar setups and UA-cam channels you can tap into 👓🎓🔭
Dome or roll-off roof - which one do you prefer and why?
Exelent video Ken , my new go to info place ,thank you , question does that focal reducer fit a NexStar Evolution 8? thanks again
Hi Ken, do you know what spacing I would need for a full frame canon 6d camera with focal reducer?
ken , how would you do planetary photography with this system, for example magnification without the eyepiece
Hi Ken,
I own a AVX mount and recently purchased an 8" Edge HD for astrophotography. My concern is that the mount may not be strong enough to carry that much weight and still be precise it its tracking. Even with short 500mm focal lengths, I often need to toss half of my subs because of tracking inaccuracies. Do I need to hypertune the mount? What can I do to make it function as perfectly as possible?
Thanks,
Martin
This may sound like a stupid question but how is the telescope powered? There never seem to be any details about that in the listings.
2010pinmaster are you talking about the mount? The telescope isn't powered but the mount has a 12 volt plug in I believe
Hi, I would like to buy this________> Celestron Edge HD 8 and I have a question: can I mount my Canon 50D camera onto it?
david Hirshhorn Yep. You just need the t-adapter for the edge HD- www.celestron.com/browse-shop/astronomy/astroimaging-accessories/t-rings-and-adapters/t-adapter,-(edgehd-8)
And a t-ring for a canon camera- www.celestron.com/browse-shop/astronomy/astroimaging-accessories/t-rings-and-adapters/t-ring-for-canon-eos-camera
How much does your ota, camera, etc weigh? The avx is capable of a 30lb payload and the ota itself weighs around 13lbs but it doesn’t appear you have any difficulties tracking accurately even though you seem to to be very close if not over the 50% payload sweet spot so many AP people speak about.
Hi, I have the same equipment as you. I didn´t start taking deep sky photos yet, but I will soon. My question is, does this mount support exposures of more than 5 minutes with all the equipment or will I have to buy a HEQ5 or a NEQ6 mount for exposures of more than 6 or even 10 minutes?
Hi Florin, The mount you have is more than capable of doing 5min exposures(even more) provided that you have an auto-guiding system. If you're doing this without at autoguider than it can become quite difficult. You can probably do 1-2min exposures with the Edge HD's focal length if you have really really really good polar alignment and mount balancing
Paolo Portillo Hello from Spain!
Thanks for answering! Yes, I have an autoguide system, now I know I can do long exposure, thanks again.
What are the pros/cons of the Fastar f/2 adaption?
So what exactly is the adapter ring you used for the auto guider. I have a QHY5L that I'd like to use for guiding but I need the adapter ring. It's standard 1.25"
This video helped me alot keep up the good work more help makes it easier for me
is it difficult to use 8" SCT for a beginner...???
No difficulties at all if your using a 4" to 14" but if you don't have a large enough back yard it can be difficult to transport and 8" to 14" to a dark location if you don't have a car :)
thanks, I bought a Celestron 8 last summer and took it on vacation from NY to Utah for dark skies, previous scope was 4.5 inch, and wanted to get into astrophotography.. good vid!
Dark skies to you!
How did you hook up that Orion Starshoot autoguider to the main tube?
F Fighter I had the same question and decided to bite the bullet, get the parts and figure out how to put them together. Short story is that you need one of these:
agenaastro.com/blue-fireball-t-t2-male-sct-male-m48-female-adapter-t-07.html
My setup is:
Celestron 9x50 finder (part #51611) that shipped with my CGEM 800 HD
Blue Fireball adapter
Orion Starshoot Autoguider
For anyone looking to pair the SSAG with a different scope, note that the SSAG attaches to the T / T2 male thread (M42x0.75) on the adapter. You will just need to find out how to mate that to your scope.
Hope this helps!
VinnieB Thank for the info. I will have to give it a try. I have another question that maybe you can answer.
I also have the polar scope, and its almost impossible to see the map inside unless I shine a red light in the front. This guy seems to have no issue. Maybe Im doing something wrong?
Robert Desoto Happy to help. I don't own the Polar Finder, so I can't comment from first hand experience. I have read about others having to use a flashlight for illumination but not sure how that works out. If I had to give it a try I would use a red light like you suggest.
What adapter do you use for the finder scope to auto guider , i have the same setup in mind and need some help. Ernest
www.all-startelescope.com/sales/product_info.php?products_id=829
can you use a 2" barlow with a dslr on a scope. new to all this any help would be great
you can. they sell t-adapters with a barlow built in, or there are televue (IIRC) adapters with magnification as well. Better for planetary/lunar/solar imaging than wider field deep space, from what I understand.
which dslr camera is he using??
Ok thank you;)
When he said "came out in 2013" I was like "this was made after 2013?! Then why's he filming it in VHS?!"
Just listening to my 8 track tape player as well.
@@AllStarTelescope I know why you don`t answer questions . you don`t know the Answers! to you KEN U fool
Excellent video and a great channel - subbed.
Scott
Excellent video, greetings from chile
very helpfull video, the paper manual is not always clear. Thx!
Really useful video, thanks
Nice video
Contrast is killing me :(
When you shoot a video, shoot from the side that the light is on, not behind you. All there is is a silhouette of you.
In other words, the video camera is adjusting to the light behind you. If you shoot with the light behind you, it'll look better.
PS
Very informative video....thank you!!
When I watch videos that others make, I do not criticize or make suggestions. I think it is rude. Especially when this man took the time to share his knowledge and experience. If you don't like what you are seeing then stop watching.
+crankabit If you're going to make a how-to video you really do need to make sure your exposure and lighting is sufficient. Especially when you're showing people how to do various balancing and setup of a nice piece of equipment like this. What Ken is saying is interesting and well presented, however I have to save more thought could have gone into the filming. There's a difference between criticism and constructive feedback.
I don't think it's rude. It's actually helpful, so next videos could be with better quality.
For me it's not a problem, but why not better, when it's possible?
if you have any nugatory near you mount undoing things you take you counter weight bar and give them the golden rivet with the weight attached now i dont know about you but i would think twice about touching another mans mount is just wrong :P
Great video, Thank you
Anyone want to loan me one of these?
:) Lol
What a lot of faffing around, kinda puts me off to be honest. Fine for someone who is retired.
Right, because producing amateur high quality images of the cosmos and doing basic observations of celestial bodies is such a waste of time. In fact, why don't we just label everything that people try doing on their own, something thats a waste of time.
Not actually true, it is not a waste of time. It would be nice if you could attend free university outreach lectures & stargazing events to broaden your knowledge. Astronomers, astrophysicist & scientists receive a lot of a data from amateur astronomers which helps and speeds up their research. Some significant discoveries has been made from amateur astronomers :)
There are a lot of young amateur astronomers around the world not just retired gentle men. Also astronomy set up is as delicate as surgery because everything has to be spot on in order for the telescope to perform as it should :)