Watch This Before You Buy The Roland BN20D DTF Printing Machine | Ask Stan The Man
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- Опубліковано 7 бер 2023
- Watch This Before You Buy The Roland BN20D DTF Printing Machine | Ask Stan The Man
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A befitting studio you got right there, Sir! Great video.
This machine is a great entry by Roland and a smart one. DTF is still relatively new. It makes no sense to pour tons of money developing and engineering an all new DTF printer from scratch. If they did that, you would end up with a $10K+ printer. Instead they made a good move by testing the market, using an already existing machine that has been tried and tested and just tweaked and calibrated it for DTF inks.
So far Roland is the only printer manufacturer offering its own DTF printer. Everything else out there is the same China made printers that use a mish mash of parts and epson print heads. They just change the logos on the machines to make them look different e.g. the Prestige A3 is the latest entry. Theyre not bad, just know what your getting.
The fact that Roland makes this product and is not just a re-branded machine from overseas, backs it up with support by Roland with a warranty and the system is all made to work together (unlike the other machines out there), the ink, the RIP software and the printhead all in a machine that is already known to perform, thats a HUUGE+. and yeah as mentioned by others, you dont need a shaker unless your doing hundreds of shirts a day and dont mind the noise. Also, I imagine that if this machine does well and they see a demand, Roland will probably end up developing a dedicated DTF printing machine from the ground up.
Yup!
This printer is perfect for screenprinting shops that can’t justify $20k for a DTG printer but wants to stop turning away orders that fall beneath their minimum. The manual work to print, shake, and press will save HOURS compared to trying to accomplish the same with burning screens, etc. The value of this machine is attached to its designated purpose. Screenprinting is still a more cost effective and stable solution for doing volume orders.
I’m glad I seen your video. My local supply store was trying to talk me into one. But I like to research before spending my my.
And if you decided to get one you can get it direct from your boy! Let me know.
Thank you very much for sharing your knowledge it very informative information...
No doubt.
Do you have a video of the New Epson F1070 DTG/DTF low volume printer Pros/Cons … it’s priced at $6995 but the replacement inks are $229. Per 250ml
Does the BN20D have a built in white ink circulator?
What tradeshow did you attend?
What printer would you suggest to start with under $10,000?
You are missing the big picture, the Roland bn-20d is focused to small businesses that want Roland quality for cheap, if you get a printer with shaker and all you have to print big quantities to do not lose materials, you have to be printing and printing, the Roland bn-20d is good to do one or two, if your business is bigger than that, it's not for you, but doesn't mean it's not good for someone else
I think I get the picture. In comparison to other price points not so sure but I do think it is more reliable.
@@StanBanks if you thing it's more reliable then why it's a pass for you? Just because you can't attach the shaker? I'm going to buy this Roland in October because I'm moving to another country where I'll start the business, and my plan for production would be print up to 24" length, cure it, print another 24" while curing the first, then cut it in different prints, so the second 24" will be finished, cure it, print, repeat
@@StanBanks even if you had the shaker you have to be there pouring powder and be sure everything is going well, it's not like you send to print and you can do other stuff while the machine is running
It’s less hands on. So you could do other stuff while monitoring technically. You’ll get a rhythm Vs having to cut powder and cure everything by hand.
@@StanBanks The OP is spot on. The DTF is the closest thing to screenprint quality without the bulky machines and long lead times. I agree that this is perfect for one off orders that 95% of screenprinting shops have to constantly turn away.
Thank you so much. What machine do you recommend DTF printer?
It is hard to answer that. But if you search about DTF printers there are bad experiences people had especially like they one for home use. They keep saying they wasted $3 k and their DTF printers don't work, it requires too much maintenance. There are at least 6 people said, they made a mistake buying these printers like from Alibaba. Maintenance and the hoses clogging up. But what I see is that certain types of DTF printers are making money just printing transfers for other people, this grade of printers are bigger like semi o industrial grade. Audly I believe is the brand, buying in the US is super expensive, the printer guy bought straight from the manufacture in China, in his videos you can see the printers are working. I would search far more in depth before spending any money on these machines. Others are converting their epson printers to print DTF like models L1800 and XP1500.
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Hey Stan,
I watch other videos about the bn20 but they don't talk about the maintenance, what you need to do to keep it running or if there any?
What are the problem that you may face with this machine and what are the solutions?
Maybe you could talk about it in the next video, stay blessed
Definitely on the list I actually have to do my first recalibration now. Other then that shaking the ink is all I’ve done thus far.
Great, thanks Stan!!
Thank u for being honest!
You don't need a shake as you can just powder it yourself. If roland adds all the other stuff expect the bn20d to go up to likely $25k or more in price cuz it won't be no china crap that's out there on the market now. Before the shakers and heaters we would powder it but printed the dtf with the dtg printer cuz its the samething. You just had to know how to bypass the epson f2100 settings to print the white.
Yeah it’s a pretty simple setup it’s just not efficient to powder it yourself especially if you have larger orders. The way you run it in the computer is to tell it to return to origin and re-print white. It’s pretty simple.
Do you have any dealer in Mumbai India
Do all DTF machines need to have a shaker to apply the adhesive?
I have seen many videos where people have the powder in a plastic bucket and they just do it that way. search on youtube.
You’re looking at this the wrong way. You can set it up with a powder shaker, all you have to do is create a file with 2 vertical prints, and click print 50x copies. Then it prints 2 vertical logos (or more, just fill the vertical space), pulls back, and sprays white over, and again until it’s done. This is my third dtf printer and it beats all the chinese versions in terms of quality and reliability.
Hmmm interesting but I’m not understanding.
He meant instead of sending 100 images to be printed at once and then waiting for the white to be applied to all of them at once from the beginnning to the end of the roll, he "tricks" the machine by only sending 2 images to the printer and tells it to print the file 50 times.
So the machine prints only 2 images, rolls back and applies white ink and then proceeds to repeat the process 49 times.
Therefore it applies the white toner on every 2 images that have been printed and in that way makes it possible to pair Roland with a shaker.
@@copybox91❤
I have been thinking of the Roland but have you heard of the DTF Station Prestige A3+ R & DTF Shaker Bundle? If so, what are your thoughts?
I’ve heard of it I don’t really know what to think of it at the moment I haven’t looked close enough at it to say.
It’s trash, avoid it at all costs. I had mine for three months before sending it back. The white is terrible and it’s dirt slow (12 minutes for a sheet).
@@rrkk6434 yikes!!
@@rrkk6434Facts! I’m in the process of draining mine (like today) and sending it back. It was it’s been a horrible, frustrating experience.
Stay away from Procolored as well!! Lasted 3 months
I was so ready to purchase. Until I learned it has to retract and then print the white 😢 I love my BN20A!
Single print head problems.
@@StanBanks agreed! Dual is the only way to go!
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I have the Prestige A3+R and it prints a little faster than this printer I think.
Don't A3+R smear because it rolls as it prints out before it dry?
So far it hasn't the +R has a heater as the film rolls out drying it so it doesn't run. There is a extension that goes on the front for the film to lay on.
However, I won't blast out a company I'll just say watch who you buy it from.
I’m sure it will. How you liking it? Where did you get it from?
@StanBanks I'm just now learning a lot. I've only had it for a month. I'm a very small business, if your a big company, it takes about 8 minutes total to print A3 full color, shake powder on, oven, and press twice. So far, I love it. I'll give the name of the company but, shew boy, you don't want my review. First one came broken. Anyway, yes it makes life easier with dark apparel. I love ur channel! You were made to inspire others!
The fact they haven't improved the speed and call it a bew machine. The having to double pass. No platten attachment. The heads will still be 1500 to replace. Hard pass.
you can buy a shitton of dtf transfers for that money lol
LOL, WTH was ROLAND thinking? When you see how this printer prints, you will crack up laughing. SLOW< SLOWER
It has sooooo many problems. DO NOT BUY IT!
I regret 100% buying the BN20D. This machine is a rip-off!
Seems to have gone exactly the way i said.