Best analysis. There seems to be a lot of wisdom in the judgement. Surprisingly no other channel has put it in such a clear manner. Hope people who are whipping passions would understand the intent of the judgement
Thank you Shekhar Sir for your de-cluttering. Each time you being to light items in amazing way. India needs more journalists of Shekhar Sir's calibre.
And reservation is not being used to oppress but to provide level playing field... General category people cant see that the SC/ST people dont have adequate standard of living to pursue what they want... General cat is not being brought down but the backward community is being pushed up...
www.firstpost.com/india/video-of-dalit-mans-body-being-lowered-from-bridge-for-cremation-goes-viral-after-upper-caste-hindus-deny-access-through-land-7206721.html Is this also history?
Here's the thing folks I am a GENERAL from middle class background , have seen friends well off than me keeping half of the marks & still getting into prestigious colleges but I will say this RESERVATION is REQUIRED ! Casteism is still prevelant (but thankfully not rampant as it was decades ago) But at the same time creamy layer should be introduced in it ! Reservations in promotions should be stopped Else the children of the beurocrats grade a b govt officers will take away the jobs of the real backward people who deserve the reservation benefits
One of the most balanced analysis on the Verdict so far..!! You simplify these complicated issues with amazing ease, 'Cut the Clutter' is thus an apt name for your episodes..
Don’t forget to see from 12:38 to end...it gives ..what the mindset people shud have on all past wrongs and go ahead for the better secular and friendly world...thanks Shekar Jim for explaining this.
Nicely summarised the verdict. Let us hope that we will move forward in communal harmony. As said by SG “Kal ki bath chodo “and let us pave the way for a brighter India”
#CutTheClutter is just fantastic. Every single episode. For wider viewership, a Hindi version would help a lot. I saw some truly ordinary news videos getting almost the same footfall as yours.
Listening to you continuously for last 4 months. Your analysis were simple and easy understand. You discussed the fact and hardly see you siding with political parties. Must watch Cut the clutter
At 12.38 thank you sir for addressing the fear that I had, it is good that you mentioned the court's carefulness in handling the case. I hope this part of the judgement is respected, because this has the power to affect our future the most.
@@a-woke5283 the issue with people like u is that u only see this much like a football game between left and right😑 unable to look from the neutral perspective. Your argument can be used to justify even when he was supposed supporting only liberal or left media
@@KavateJayesh lol bruh he's a leftist and guess what leftist started the left and right in India . They started calling BJP hindu extremist and rightist lol while it's actually a very neutral party . India doesn't have a proper right . Yes some are right leaning but no one is proper right not even RSS lmao . Coz all the policies that BJP has brought till now are same one brought by liberals of west . So you see there's a lot more diff than politics here and the west . Western politics is white and black although it's changing now and I never understood why people compare the politics here to the west lol .
I have to admit I don't like Sekhar Gupta - haven't liked him for a long time. Having said that, begrudgingly, I have to give him kudos and express appreciation for presenting the Ayodhya verdict in a simple and easy to understand manner. It is concise and without embellishments. There is no emotion rabble rousing or innuendo. Thanks! Great job.
Sir a big fan of your cut the clutter program and watch all your episodes. But sometimes I am jealous because in some instances I do not completely support your deduction of facts but still love to listen to how articulate and structured you are (specially point wise agruments and even rating them in order). Big fan of yours and would someday love to meet you in person.
@subhadeep mandal yep agree with u sir But please dont try to negate the fact that a lot of things in india reach the limit before we can do something about it Thats what i was trying to say Resr of what u said makes sense
@@priyankavv1266 masjid made on top of actual Krishna janma Bhumi .Only a part of it is the temple. Gyanvapi mosque lies on actual place of benares and the temple lies to the side of it!
@@abdulmanaan2792 yeah...it maybe myth...same as those flat earth, flying donkey, pedophile Mohammed and self centric egoistic Allah. But it's close to my heart... And you won't understand cause your forefathers destroyed that temple to built Babur's(an invader) Masjid. Why is this that most of the masjids are built on destroyed holy shrines of other religions?? whether be it Babri or Al-aqsa!!
@magesticmaniacc yeah rightly said..Injustice never prevails.. the injustice done on Hindus has come to an end. Who will believe it that a country where Hindus were in majority had to go through 500 years long struggle for a place that legally, historically and rightfully theirs and finally get justice through a supreme court of justice via a legal and peaceful way. But the world must know!!! That India, i.e. Bharat had kept its secularism alive... And people who never read the sc judgement(where the matter was a land dispute and judgement was on land dispute) are putting doubt on the court. The people who keep shouting Gujarat riot...must first read the whole history. It was not Hindus but the muslims who burned the Godhra train bogeys with people inside that provoked the Gujarat riots. those burning people' shrilling screams and cry's are still alive roaming free... Mera Bharat Mahan
At 15:46, Shekhar sir fumbles and says “Lord speaks to our history” and then corrects “law speaks to our history”. Completely reverses the meaning and sounds so funny. 😂😂😂
South Indians are so happy on this verdict. Ram is so much more revered in south. So many songs in Carnatic music is dedicated to Ram. Ram Navami is one of the biggest festival in south. So many villages are named after Rama. South Indians are emotional people. Ram is super-emotion.
Ram Navami is one of the biggest festivals in South?! Seriously? Pls be precise on the area. I'm a south Indian and we don't really worship Ram like they do in the North, neither are there that many Ram temples around. It's Vishnu who is revered not the avtar. Hopefully now the politicians will focus on Vikas rather than ask votes in the name of Mandir.
@@thewandering_pixel Where are you from in south India? There are hundreds of ram temple in south. Let me list down some important Rama Temples in South. 1. Badrachalam Sri Ramachandra Swamy Temple in Telangana 2. Eri Kaatha Ramar Temple in Chennai, Tamil Nadu 3. Vaduvur Sri Rama near Mannargudi, Tamil Nadu 4. Darbha Sayana Ramar & Pattabhishega Ramar in Thirupullani. 5. Anantha Sayana Ramar near Panruti, Tamil Nadu. 6. Sri Valvil Ramar, Thirupullaboothangudi, Tamil Nadu. 6. Sri Yoga Ramar Nedundundram. 7. Sri Vijayaraghava Perumal, Thiruputkuzhi, Tamil Nadu 8. Sri Vaidhiya Veeraraghava Perumal Thiruvallur, Tamil Nadu 9. Kollavilli Ramar, TN I can go on. But it's not necessary. I have made my point.
@@ujwalmokashi6702 then say Ram navami is celebrated by a specific Brahmin subcast. do all South Indians do? Maybe not. I'm a kannadiga who has also lived in the North, and no we don't worship Rama separately. That's why I said Vishnu takes precedence over the Ram avtar. This is difference is mainly because of The spread and popularity of Vaishnavism and Shavism in the south. And You seem to have deliberately misunderstood my comment - nowhere have I mentioned that there are "no" Ram temples here. Also this begs the question if there are so many Ram temples around, why does one need another temple? You are obviously more attached to the issue so I'll leave it at that. Peace.
Nation has confronted history and moved on but when Will Muslim Accept the fact that Muslim rulers were Oppressive to non Muslim? Being a Banarasi I am not Saying to take down Gyanvapi Masjid but I wanted Muslim to accept the fact that Aurangzeb Attacked Kashi Vishwanath Temple.
Good analysis and positive review, thank you. Time to put this behind and focus on development issues. PM Modi has shown great statesmanship and trying to bring all communities together. So far ( first 12 hours ) all looking good and hope it continues. Given that people have criticised his reluctance to comment off the hook and immediately on other issues, they should recognise it when it is done. There were many people pushing Modi govt to bring an executive order to meet electoral compulsion. Thank god he did not go down that way and waited patiently for proper procedure to be completed. Well done 👍👍👍
A very good analysis....presentation was easy to understand. The SC decision has to be explained by the government to the people of India, in their vernacular languages, in a non emotional and objective way so that the healing and closure can take place. This approach has a lot of positives for moving forward as a nation.
Hats of to you sir, you're an inspirational to many....keep up the good work 👍👍wish I had known you long time back😌😌you're very precise and to the point in every topic👌
After listening hole day so many people and anchor on TV news I think this is the best explanation of the judgement in shortest possible time a genius Thanks
Obc and sc/st are still oppressed in various ways in today's India. You will not find these things in big cities but it is still highly prevalent in rural areas.
@@bazlur-Vancouver do you realize thay BJP was voted into power with super majority because of people like you! You reveal your true mindset with your words! So keep it going!
@@yaswantjaiswal7111 No Taj Mahal is not a Hindu building as much as some would like to claim it. Even its architecture is clearly not. Even the inside which has been sealed off has still be proven to be newly built by the Mughals. It is not Hindu. Leave it alone
Sir atleast in india we have given 5 acres of land for muslims and atleast appeased them But Ramnakali Temple was destroyed in Dhaka and was not even restored or land given back to Hindus Muslims have always destroyed thousands of Temples for thousands for years But I don't understand why journalists and activists question the muslims about their acts of violence....still continuing to this day
Its not a victory for any party. This is an opportunity to make peace and to let it prevail. If I ever visit Ayodhya Ram mandir i shall also go and see the mosque.
I wish all media in this country was as responsible as you sir. Question - when in 1991 law was passed with Ayodhya as the exception had the Indian govt at that time made us the mind that temple will be constructed there in the future?
all these years of fighting and finally there's peace. People must understand that everything is sorted out with time, so there is no need to fight for such things cause one action leads to another and would keep on going for long.
Shekhar Sahib.... The Logic by Justice Gogoi ...cuts the clutter very well indeed... .. and comes down hard on all parties involved... 1. Archeological findings are ruled inconclusive in this property dispute ( Hindu Faction Lawyers get a huge black eye , India Archeological Investigators also get a huge black eye , So do Muslim faction Lawyers as there was evidence of Non Muslim architecture below the Mosque floor but findings did not address ( stayed silent ) if this Architecture was a temple or if there was evidence of temple destruction... ) 2. Faith does not count on a property dispute ( Hindu Faction Lawyers get a black eye ) 3. Inner and outer courtyard distinction is rejected as " subdivision does not determine a title" ( Muslim lawyers get a black eye ) 4. Allahabad High court ( 2010 ruling ) is ruled totally off base ( Huge Huge Black eye for Allahabad Court Justices ) // Supreme court said " Allahabad high court had no business delving into partition of disputed land ,, Its ruling defied Logic, and defied settled principles of Law on property Title disputes ". This is as bad as it gets !!!!!!!!! 5. So the final judgement was decided on " Muslim faction lawyers could not clearly prove / establish sole possession of this site 1558 to 1827 and beyond " Thus Muslim faction lawyers get a Black eye. Hindu faction lawyers had demonstrated that Hindus had prayed all over the 2,77 acres including inside the dome as long as anyone can remember. Score a big one for Hindu faction lawyers. So court decided you need a judgement that is " workable ". since 150 years of litigation was going nowhere. Remember... The 2.77 acres in question is totally surrounded by 65 acres under Central Govt ownership. ( That would be Amit Shah !! ) +++++++++++++++++++== Subject: Hindustan Times on Ayodhya Five key reasons behind Supreme Court ruling in Ayodhya verdict www.hindustantimes.com/india-news/five-key-reasons-behind-sc-ruling/story-yyxVgi7UOgX3hOU9pPRIbL.html
Great analysis Sekhar. While the media goes harping on legalities with hair splitting lawyers dwelling on legalistic paragraphs you’ve gone about it as your usual self of a perceptive journalist, almost a social scientist. The paragraph quoted on historical oppression is the most illuminating part of the judgement indeed. How I wish to have a Nelson Mandela type Reconciliation Movement to mitigate all sense of injuries of the past.
@@atifkhan7423 Atif Bhai, this temple is like Mecca for us..we can give 100 acres to you if you want to build Masjid and many Hindus decided to build a grand Masjid at some other place..I wish you respect our faith..and no Hindu hates you.. there are 40 lakh mosques in India..but we want this small piece of land..we love Indian Muslims and every Hindu should thank Muslims for this..peace above all..jai hind
It took 491 years and 50+ generations to legally pray at one of the holiest site of the faith of a billion+ in their own and only country. The site that was violently annexed and was tried to be converted. Now flip this story around and imagine if this had happened to another faith. How much tolerance would we have been talking about.
Excellent analysis and very informative. I was looking for the basis of this historical judgement and the application of constitutional provisions. I got what I was looking for. Thanks Shekhar.
Sir tv news dekhna shod diya..jab se apne..cut the clutter start kiya hai..bas apke new episode ane ka intezar kartey hai..refresh updated..ho jatey hai..u can call ur show REFRESH
Shekharji has done a fairly good job. As you were doing earlier if you can limit the length of the video within 15 minutes, of course the ideal is 10 minutes, it will be appreciated. Congrats!
Thanks for the clutter free description sir ... One correction - at 18.26 you mentioned independence on 15th August 1957 ... Not 1947. With so many referances to years it can happen but thought of pointing out so that it can be corrected if possible.
Brave attempt to summarize a huge judgment. Well done. But, I must add that in Mathura, the actual spot described as the place of Krishna's birth actually protrudes under the walls of the mosque. One has to stoop, enter through a rather small door to see this spot, where some idols are kept and worshipped. Without much ado, at least about 30' wide land should be given to the temple to straighten its boundaries to include the spot of Krishna's birth, and leave the mosque, otherwise intact.
Thanks for de cluttering. A comprehensive presentation. I believe that SC decision is fair. Though I have a few questions. How many judges were in the SC team? Is the decision unanimous? Was there any Muslim in the judges team?
Sir, it is great analysis of Judgement on Ayodhya. I am very happy that Ram temple will be build at his birthplace and that decision came by 5-0 from judges. Like you, I hope this is pave way for social harmony in coming years.
Shekhu - you can sleep well this night based on SC' assurance that this verdict won't set any precedent as Places of worship act will protect status quo in Mathura and Kashi. But then again will take just parliamentary session to revoke PoW act.
There's 3 Lakh active mosque in India, a country where Prophet Muhammad never visited. Its apart from Macca, Madina and Jerusalem, his birthplace and workplace. Now question from sulking muslim friends, where should I find Ram's birthplace????
SHEKHAR SIR , I WOULD LIKE TO ASK YOU A QUESTION OVER AYODHHAVERDICT , WHY SUNNI WAQF BOARD WAS GIVEN 5 ACRE OF LAND SOMEWHERE IN AYODHHA IN LIEW OF 2.77 ACRE OF LAND ON WHICH THE DISPUTED " RAM MANDIR " WAS THERE , DOES THAT NOT MEAN PREVIOUSLY THAT " DISPUTED MOSQUE " WAS SETUP UNDER 2.77 ACRE OF LAND ?
Modiji is true follower of values of Lord Ram and did not get provoked even by Swami to acquire the land but waited for SC to finalize. Dear Boss please be kind to recognize such greatness of Modiji when you wish to promote your dynast of congress party
गंजा ये नहीं बताएगा कि मार्क्सिस्ट इतिहासकारों ने कैसे मुसलमानी को गुमराह किया । वरण मामला कभी का सुलझ जाता। दंगे फ़साद भी आ होते । ये गंजा भी मार्क्सिस्ट का हिमायती है ।
Shekhar, we have been killed and our temples broken for years. Around 50000 temples broken. Any muslim passing by just think about it and we never complain, only 1 temple.
Manas Arora i can’t see 50000 temples though ,it just shows 2-3 that also not broken for religious reasons but for gold and treasures kept there .and it makes no logic of taking revenge of what happened 100 hundreds of years ago to the people who live now .Just because your ancestors couldn’t fight back then your finding ways to now to fight .
@@ga2747 no i dont want revenge. We dont believe in revenge. We just wanted what's ours. Even though i am happy with this and dont want any more of this, but we should not forget what happened in the past, how we suffered because if we do forget then we are bound to make the same mistake. Btw we have not taken anything from muslims. They are still given land just not the land where ram was born.
@@ga2747 our ancestors could not fight the barbarians bcos they followed a dharmic way of life , they followed rules even during a war. They were not prepared for the barbarians who followed no rules nor had any morals. They lost space by the time they understood what was happening and started fighting back and fought till the very end of mughul rule
Who is the looser in this historical judgment of Ram Mandir? Let we talk about who are the winner first. The main winner is the BJP and RSS who were the pioneer in demolishing the 500 year old Babri Masjid taking laws in their hands and are now getting full possession of the Babri Majid and political gold mines for the next 10 years until the Mandir is completed and inaugurated. (ii) Almost all the political parties who have no guts to take side of Muslim minority who has been marginalized just for the sake of not loosing Hindu votes. (iii) Few Muslim political leaders who got new platform to bring Muslims in their vote banks (iv) the five SC justices who accepted the Government's dictates to frame and approved the unjust verdict will surely get lucrative postings after their retirement, and now let see who lost? Of course India's secularism, Constitution and Unity did suffer very badly but among all the main looser is the prestige, reputation and image of the Supreme Court of India.The worst it has created historical precedent of demolishing non-Hindu religious place first by goons and then use AAshtha to convert it into a Hindu religious place. No one knows whether the goons who have demolished the Masjid will ever be punished or rewarded.
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Best analysis. There seems to be a lot of wisdom in the judgement. Surprisingly no other channel has put it in such a clear manner. Hope people who are whipping passions would understand the intent of the judgement
Are you muslim?
@@DarknetDecoded He is Indian!
Only unhappy people
UPSC aspirants and Law students
😒1045 pages
Syllabus barate raho bas 😭
haahhahahahah
Don't worry questions wouldn't come from that area as it itself quite controversial issue to be part of exam.
Between I m judiciary aspirant
@@veer_Gurjar4 not between its by the way..lololol
Its our destiny 😂
A 1000 page plus judgement is explained so clearly in a few minutes. Hats off to Mr. Shekar.
Thank you Shekhar Sir for your de-cluttering. Each time you being to light items in amazing way.
India needs more journalists of Shekhar Sir's calibre.
Court:“History and its wrongs shall not be used as instruments to oppress the present and the future”
Knock knock
Aarakshan!!!
If you had no way of knowing, would you rather be born as a Brahmin or a Dalit?
You now have the answer for who's oppressing who.
@@theAraAra very poignant and well put :)
And reservation is not being used to oppress but to provide level playing field... General category people cant see that the SC/ST people dont have adequate standard of living to pursue what they want... General cat is not being brought down but the backward community is being pushed up...
www.firstpost.com/india/video-of-dalit-mans-body-being-lowered-from-bridge-for-cremation-goes-viral-after-upper-caste-hindus-deny-access-through-land-7206721.html
Is this also history?
Here's the thing folks I am a GENERAL from middle class background , have seen friends well off than me keeping half of the marks & still getting into prestigious colleges
but I will say this RESERVATION is REQUIRED ! Casteism is still prevelant (but thankfully not rampant as it was decades ago)
But at the same time creamy layer should be introduced in it ! Reservations in promotions should be stopped
Else the children of the beurocrats grade a b govt officers will take away the jobs of the real backward people who deserve the reservation benefits
Had this verdict been delivered during INC's rule, the Congress would have overturned this through parliament just like Sha Bano case....
Lmao nonsense. Chup kar bhakt.
Case is solved..abhi toh bahar aao iskey
@@onetwo-jm2gj they won't. Now they'll say Mandir is too small and want to make it bigger than Burj Khalifa 😂😂😂
I agree congress is anti hindu to core and thinks after English they were rulers shame
@@TheJainmehul I believe you have no idea of Shah banu case. Congress went to lowest level for appeasement.
One of the most balanced analysis on the Verdict so far..!! You simplify these complicated issues with amazing ease, 'Cut the Clutter' is thus an apt name for your episodes..
Don’t forget to see from 12:38 to end...it gives ..what the mindset people shud have on all past wrongs and go ahead for the better secular and friendly world...thanks Shekar Jim for explaining this.
Hey Shekhar I don't watch these TV debates and just look for that one show of urs everyday, amazing oratory skills!!
Nicely summarised the verdict. Let us hope that we will move forward in communal harmony. As said by SG “Kal ki bath chodo “and let us pave the way for a brighter India”
#CutTheClutter is just fantastic. Every single episode.
For wider viewership, a Hindi version would help a lot. I saw some truly ordinary news videos getting almost the same footfall as yours.
Listening to you continuously for last 4 months. Your analysis were simple and easy understand. You discussed the fact and hardly see you siding with political parties. Must watch Cut the clutter
At 12.38 thank you sir for addressing the fear that I had, it is good that you mentioned the court's carefulness in handling the case. I hope this part of the judgement is respected, because this has the power to affect our future the most.
We are here to see you. But apke jo colleagues hai they are the face of leftist mindset not liberals
A-Woke you’re wrong here or maybe it’s your prerogative can’t help
Shekhar was leftist also. He changed horses .
@@a-woke5283 the issue with people like u is that u only see this much like a football game between left and right😑 unable to look from the neutral perspective. Your argument can be used to justify even when he was supposed supporting only liberal or left media
@@a-woke5283 sometimes try to see from a neutral perspective. No wonder it doesn't make sense to u.
@@KavateJayesh lol bruh he's a leftist and guess what leftist started the left and right in India .
They started calling BJP hindu extremist and rightist lol while it's actually a very neutral party .
India doesn't have a proper right .
Yes some are right leaning but no one is proper right not even RSS lmao .
Coz all the policies that BJP has brought till now are same one brought by liberals of west .
So you see there's a lot more diff than politics here and the west .
Western politics is white and black although it's changing now and I never understood why people compare the politics here to the west lol .
I used to follow him on tv talk show for last 20 yrs.First time I liked his analysis.
So for 20 yrs you followed someone whos views you didn't like.
I have to admit I don't like Sekhar Gupta - haven't liked him for a long time. Having said that, begrudgingly, I have to give him kudos and express appreciation for presenting the Ayodhya verdict in a simple and easy to understand manner. It is concise and without embellishments. There is no emotion rabble rousing or innuendo. Thanks! Great job.
And that's why u need librerals or else it media mayhem all day
Have been eagerly waiting for Shekhar Ji's take on it!!! One of the best places to consume news these days...
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Sir a big fan of your cut the clutter program and watch all your episodes. But sometimes I am jealous because in some instances I do not completely support your deduction of facts but still love to listen to how articulate and structured you are (specially point wise agruments and even rating them in order).
Big fan of yours and would someday love to meet you in person.
Shekhar, The latest Economist has quoted you on Ayodhya👏👏👏
The judiciary made a big mistake by putting off this judgement for so many years. They really proved that indecision always makes a mess of things.
Thats just the indian way of doing things
@joebob i think he rolled a joint with the pages of your history text book
Hes right
U prolly need to understant and learn more of indian history
@subhadeep mandal yep agree with u sir
But please dont try to negate the fact that a lot of things in india reach the limit before we can do something about it
Thats what i was trying to say
Resr of what u said makes sense
@joebob 200 yesrs of british rule and draining 45 trillion frrom the indian economy
Im not sure which part of that u dont seem to understand?
This wasn't an issue that can be solved overnight,people's emotions are involved,and time is needed for everyone to understand and accept each other.
Kashi, Mathura, are still remaining. No power on earth can stop the reconstruction of the temples there.
Temples are already there. Haven't you ever been there?
@@priyankavv1266 masjid made on top of actual Krishna janma Bhumi .Only a part of it is the temple. Gyanvapi mosque lies on actual place of benares and the temple lies to the side of it!
Not only these but qutub minar complex as well!
Thanks Shekhar ji. I am finding good quality journalism here again and again.
Mr.Gupta I love this show the combination of News +knowledge with a neutral view rather than sensational banter...
This country, my country BHARAT, is now getting mature and wise.. Time to Move On...
yeah u asshole.....because your mythological ram's Mandir will be built
@@abdulmanaan2792 yeah...it maybe myth...same as those flat earth, flying donkey, pedophile Mohammed and self centric egoistic Allah.
But it's close to my heart... And you won't understand cause your forefathers destroyed that temple to built Babur's(an invader) Masjid. Why is this that most of the masjids are built on destroyed holy shrines of other religions?? whether be it Babri or Al-aqsa!!
@magesticmaniacc yeah rightly said..Injustice never prevails.. the injustice done on Hindus has come to an end. Who will believe it that a country where Hindus were in majority had to go through 500 years long struggle for a place that legally, historically and rightfully theirs and finally get justice through a supreme court of justice via a legal and peaceful way. But the world must know!!! That India, i.e. Bharat had kept its secularism alive...
And people who never read the sc judgement(where the matter was a land dispute and judgement was on land dispute) are putting doubt on the court.
The people who keep shouting Gujarat riot...must first read the whole history. It was not Hindus but the muslims who burned the Godhra train bogeys with people inside that provoked the Gujarat riots. those burning people' shrilling screams and cry's are still alive roaming free...
Mera Bharat Mahan
At 15:46, Shekhar sir fumbles and says “Lord speaks to our history” and then corrects “law speaks to our history”. Completely reverses the meaning and sounds so funny. 😂😂😂
South Indians are so happy on this verdict. Ram is so much more revered in south. So many songs in Carnatic music is dedicated to Ram. Ram Navami is one of the biggest festival in south. So many villages are named after Rama.
South Indians are emotional people. Ram is super-emotion.
Ram is revered across India.
Ram Navami is one of the biggest festivals in South?! Seriously? Pls be precise on the area. I'm a south Indian and we don't really worship Ram like they do in the North, neither are there that many Ram temples around. It's Vishnu who is revered not the avtar. Hopefully now the politicians will focus on Vikas rather than ask votes in the name of Mandir.
@@thewandering_pixel Where are you from in south India? There are hundreds of ram temple in south.
Let me list down some important Rama Temples in South.
1. Badrachalam Sri Ramachandra Swamy Temple in Telangana
2. Eri Kaatha Ramar Temple in Chennai, Tamil Nadu
3. Vaduvur Sri Rama near Mannargudi, Tamil Nadu
4. Darbha Sayana Ramar & Pattabhishega Ramar in Thirupullani.
5. Anantha Sayana Ramar near Panruti, Tamil Nadu.
6. Sri Valvil Ramar, Thirupullaboothangudi, Tamil Nadu.
6. Sri Yoga Ramar Nedundundram.
7. Sri Vijayaraghava Perumal, Thiruputkuzhi, Tamil Nadu
8. Sri Vaidhiya Veeraraghava Perumal Thiruvallur, Tamil Nadu
9. Kollavilli Ramar, TN
I can go on. But it's not necessary. I have made my point.
Madwa traditions in Karnataka's main diety is Rama. They call it moola Rama.
@@ujwalmokashi6702 then say Ram navami is celebrated by a specific Brahmin subcast. do all South Indians do? Maybe not. I'm a kannadiga who has also lived in the North, and no we don't worship Rama separately. That's why I said Vishnu takes precedence over the Ram avtar. This is difference is mainly because of The spread and popularity of Vaishnavism and Shavism in the south. And You seem to have deliberately misunderstood my comment - nowhere have I mentioned that there are "no" Ram temples here. Also this begs the question if there are so many Ram temples around, why does one need another temple? You are obviously more attached to the issue so I'll leave it at that. Peace.
Nation has confronted history and moved on but when Will Muslim Accept the fact that Muslim rulers were Oppressive to non Muslim?
Being a Banarasi I am not Saying to take down Gyanvapi Masjid but I wanted Muslim to accept the fact that Aurangzeb Attacked Kashi Vishwanath Temple.
Do not talk nonsense. Do you want more riots? Just move on.
Non-retrogression is an essential feature of Secularism
Good analysis and positive review, thank you. Time to put this behind and focus on development issues.
PM Modi has shown great statesmanship and trying to bring all communities together. So far ( first 12 hours ) all looking good and hope it continues. Given that people have criticised his reluctance to comment off the hook and immediately on other issues, they should recognise it when it is done.
There were many people pushing Modi govt to bring an executive order to meet electoral compulsion. Thank god he did not go down that way and waited patiently for proper procedure to be completed. Well done 👍👍👍
A very good analysis....presentation was easy to understand. The SC decision has to be explained by the government to the people of India, in their vernacular languages, in a non emotional and objective way so that the healing and closure can take place. This approach has a lot of positives for moving forward as a nation.
Hats of to you sir, you're an inspirational to many....keep up the good work 👍👍wish I had known you long time back😌😌you're very precise and to the point in every topic👌
After listening hole day so many people and anchor on TV news I think this is the best explanation of the judgement in shortest possible time a genius
Thanks
What India needs is truth and reconciliation. Without that non retrogression won't work.
Great analysis of judgement.. Thank you..
"if history and its wrongs cannot be used to oppress the present and future" - How about the concept of reservations?
Obc and sc/st are still oppressed in various ways in today's India. You will not find these things in big cities but it is still highly prevalent in rural areas.
@@terracegardenkittens then those reservations should be limited to such rural areas only.
@/S_/H_/U_/K_/R_/A_/Y_/E / apologies, but there is uniform civil code in place. So reservations are gonna be limited n restricted
Well said and explained. It's true we need to move on
Reason why I still didn't unsubscribe print despite of the biased journalism.. Shekhar sir.. ur cut the clutter will remain as a classic.
True that...
Sir it was very clear and can be easily understood by anyone
Thanks a lot sir
Confront our history ?
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No more mandir majsid politics now lets move on and make India strong together.
@Bhushan Kumar Taj Mahal also remaining
@@bazlur-Vancouver no one has talked bout islam, he has talked bout a palace built by a cruel ruler. Dont dare you talk bout other religion.
@@bazlur-Vancouver do you realize thay BJP was voted into power with super majority because of people like you! You reveal your true mindset with your words! So keep it going!
lmao as if.
@@yaswantjaiswal7111 No Taj Mahal is not a Hindu building as much as some would like to claim it. Even its architecture is clearly not. Even the inside which has been sealed off has still be proven to be newly built by the Mughals. It is not Hindu. Leave it alone
Sir atleast in india we have given 5 acres of land for muslims and atleast appeased them
But Ramnakali Temple was destroyed in Dhaka and was not even restored or land given back to Hindus
Muslims have always destroyed thousands of Temples for thousands for years
But I don't understand why journalists and activists question the muslims about their acts of violence....still continuing to this day
Its not a victory for any party. This is an opportunity to make peace and to let it prevail. If I ever visit Ayodhya Ram mandir i shall also go and see the mosque.
The endings like this is why I love watching this episode.. 👌👌
Sir as ever.... clear cogent and beautifully expressed.... thank u..... I for one am optimistic about our people.
1045 pages !!! not words
I wish all media in this country was as responsible as you sir.
Question - when in 1991 law was passed with Ayodhya as the exception had the Indian govt at that time made us the mind that temple will be constructed there in the future?
Most Balanced....Well articulated verdict..No teams win or both teams win....India has won!!!
U have been my favourite since my school days.... Late eighties... Keep up the good work!!!
@@ramachandria ?????
After all, there is only one Wheeler Dealer. LOL.
Professor saab, today's law class was wonderful.
all these years of fighting and finally there's peace. People must understand that everything is sorted out with time, so there is no need to fight for such things cause one action leads to another and would keep on going for long.
Shekhar Sahib....
The Logic by Justice Gogoi ...cuts the clutter very well indeed... .. and comes down hard on all parties involved...
1. Archeological findings are ruled inconclusive in this property dispute
( Hindu Faction Lawyers get a huge black eye , India Archeological Investigators also get a huge black eye ,
So do Muslim faction Lawyers as there was evidence of Non Muslim architecture below the Mosque floor
but findings did not address ( stayed silent ) if this Architecture was a temple or if there was evidence of temple destruction... )
2. Faith does not count on a property dispute ( Hindu Faction Lawyers get a black eye )
3. Inner and outer courtyard distinction is rejected as " subdivision does not determine a title" ( Muslim lawyers get a black eye )
4. Allahabad High court ( 2010 ruling ) is ruled totally off base ( Huge Huge Black eye for Allahabad Court Justices )
// Supreme court said " Allahabad high court had no business delving into partition of disputed land ,, Its ruling defied Logic, and defied settled principles of Law on property Title disputes ".
This is as bad as it gets !!!!!!!!!
5. So the final judgement was decided on
" Muslim faction lawyers could not clearly prove / establish sole possession
of this site 1558 to 1827 and beyond " Thus Muslim faction lawyers get a Black eye.
Hindu faction lawyers had demonstrated that Hindus had
prayed all over the 2,77 acres
including inside the dome as long as anyone can remember.
Score a big one for Hindu faction lawyers.
So court decided you need a judgement that is " workable ".
since 150 years of litigation was going nowhere.
Remember... The 2.77 acres in question is totally surrounded
by 65 acres under Central Govt ownership. ( That would be Amit Shah !! )
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Subject: Hindustan Times on Ayodhya
Five key reasons behind Supreme Court ruling in Ayodhya verdict
www.hindustantimes.com/india-news/five-key-reasons-behind-sc-ruling/story-yyxVgi7UOgX3hOU9pPRIbL.html
Sir, you must start your own 24 hr news channel.. it will be miles ahead than all other channels in content and accuracy..hats off to you..again
No, trp race destroys the flavour of news..
I would almost second this request, but i fear market forces and TRP will cast its dirty spell then.
Pakka commie limes coupta
@@hpremjit humm.. may b u r right.. consumerism often destroys the purest forms of news..
Great analysis Sekhar. While the media goes harping on legalities with hair splitting lawyers dwelling on legalistic paragraphs you’ve gone about it as your usual self of a perceptive journalist, almost a social scientist. The paragraph quoted on historical oppression is the most illuminating part of the judgement indeed. How I wish to have a Nelson Mandela type Reconciliation Movement to mitigate all sense of injuries of the past.
Thank you for decluttering one of the most obfuscating judgment of the century. :-D
Loved the way you broke it down! Truly decluttered the issue for me! Thank you, sir!
13:26 well said
i have become addicted ur daily decluttering. Is it possible to have 'Late night shows' organized like John Oliver?
You are the 💎 among the few honest journalists
Ashif Mohamed r u happy brother or scared to oppose this decision tel me honestly was this not expected
@@atifkhan7423 Atif Bhai, this temple is like Mecca for us..we can give 100 acres to you if you want to build Masjid and many Hindus decided to build a grand Masjid at some other place..I wish you respect our faith..and no Hindu hates you.. there are 40 lakh mosques in India..but we want this small piece of land..we love Indian Muslims and every Hindu should thank Muslims for this..peace above all..jai hind
Waiting for this from afternoon
That was one hell of a dissection. Excellent video.
It took 491 years and 50+ generations to legally pray at one of the holiest site of the faith of a billion+ in their own and only country. The site that was violently annexed and was tried to be converted.
Now flip this story around and imagine if this had happened to another faith. How much tolerance would we have been talking about.
Excellent analysis and very informative. I was looking for the basis of this historical judgement and the application of constitutional provisions. I got what I was looking for. Thanks Shekhar.
Always set playback speed to 1.25X
Guptaji thanks for reading actual judgement. News don't do that
Hahaha, you fall for coupta, go to court website and read it. This coupta is in bangle breaking ceremony
Sir tv news dekhna shod diya..jab se apne..cut the clutter start kiya hai..bas apke new episode ane ka intezar kartey hai..refresh updated..ho jatey hai..u can call ur show REFRESH
Then why reservations when discrimination was done pre independence?
Shekharji has done a fairly good job.
As you were doing earlier if you can limit the length of the video within 15 minutes, of course the ideal is 10 minutes, it will be appreciated.
Congrats!
Mr. Gupta, can you please also add the Episode number in the description text also so that it becomes easy to recognize the update
thanks 🙏 unfolding it succinctly
that’s why i watch your channel
Thanks for the clutter free description sir ...
One correction - at 18.26 you mentioned independence on 15th August 1957 ... Not 1947. With so many referances to years it can happen but thought of pointing out so that it can be corrected if possible.
Well Analysed again by Shekar.
Question from nidhi razdan in ndtv today:are we sure the court has directed the trust to build a temple.can the trust build a mosque?
saccha aadmi 😀
Usko chote Abdullah ka D bohot dinse nehi Mila he because of lockdown in Kashmir
Isilie pagal hoke aise bolrahi hai
😂😂
Ndtv ek terrorist news channel hai aur jo is channel ko dekh ta hai uski maaka bhosda
Bhartiya Sanskar zindabad
Very good ThePrint
Sir please let us know if this will have impact on CBI case on demolition.
I wish the court should have also ordered day to day hearings in the Babri Masjid demolition case.... the judgement would have become more equitable.
No, the order under 142 doesn't become a law. In fact the order given under 142 , can't be used as a precedence, for other case/s.
I think this issue had been sort out and may not become a mess if the desicion had been taken on in the 50's 60's or 70's .
The law created in 1993, keep structures intact, Muslims did not follow that in Kashi and Mathura. They built an additional structures.
I got the answer for my question at 14:35
Brave attempt to summarize a huge judgment. Well done. But, I must add that in Mathura, the actual spot described as the place of Krishna's birth actually protrudes under the walls of the mosque. One has to stoop, enter through a rather small door to see this spot, where some idols are kept and worshipped. Without much ado, at least about 30' wide land should be given to the temple to straighten its boundaries to include the spot of Krishna's birth, and leave the mosque, otherwise intact.
Well said sir. thank you for helping us understand the court ruling.
Thanks for de cluttering. A comprehensive presentation. I believe that SC decision is fair. Though I have a few questions. How many judges were in the SC team? Is the decision unanimous? Was there any Muslim in the judges team?
Sir, it is great analysis of Judgement on Ayodhya. I am very happy that Ram temple will be build at his birthplace and that decision came by 5-0 from judges. Like you, I hope this is pave way for social harmony in coming years.
Always watch gupta's videos at 1.5 speed
It was difficult to understand while he was reading the para 😅
@@AbhishekSingh-oh3gi then go far 1.25 if u r beginner 😁 . Later u will crave for 1.5
One of the most unconvincing efforts of SG and Cut the Clutter....
Shekhu - you can sleep well this night based on SC' assurance that this verdict won't set any precedent as Places of worship act will protect status quo in Mathura and Kashi.
But then again will take just parliamentary session to revoke PoW act.
One of the best explanations of the verdict
1st FIR was filed against nihang sikhs bcz they performed havan iside the mosque
Excellent.. excellent.. excellent CTC.
Very very clear clutter
There's 3 Lakh active mosque in India, a country where Prophet Muhammad never visited. Its apart from Macca, Madina and Jerusalem, his birthplace and workplace.
Now question from sulking muslim friends, where should I find Ram's birthplace????
Have been waiting since morning for this
Great Journalism, not sure many people even read 1045 pages verdict, yet they where arguing!
SHEKHAR SIR , I WOULD LIKE TO ASK YOU A QUESTION OVER AYODHHAVERDICT , WHY SUNNI WAQF BOARD WAS GIVEN 5 ACRE OF LAND SOMEWHERE IN AYODHHA IN LIEW OF 2.77 ACRE OF LAND ON WHICH THE DISPUTED " RAM MANDIR " WAS THERE , DOES THAT NOT MEAN PREVIOUSLY THAT " DISPUTED MOSQUE " WAS SETUP UNDER 2.77 ACRE OF LAND ?
Great Sir 🙏 thanks for increasing my knowledge
Modiji is true follower of values of Lord Ram and did not get provoked even by Swami to acquire the land but waited for SC to finalize. Dear Boss please be kind to recognize such greatness of Modiji when you wish to promote your dynast of congress party
Sir, You're a true gem ♥️
गंजा ये नहीं बताएगा कि मार्क्सिस्ट इतिहासकारों ने कैसे मुसलमानी को गुमराह किया । वरण मामला कभी का सुलझ जाता। दंगे फ़साद भी आ होते । ये गंजा भी मार्क्सिस्ट का हिमायती है ।
Shekhar, we have been killed and our temples broken for years. Around 50000 temples broken. Any muslim passing by just think about it and we never complain, only 1 temple.
Manas Arora who killed you looks like your very much alive 😅and commenting. 50000 temples how did you make up that figures,you have time machine 😂
@@ga2747 it is a fact covered by many history books. Just because we dont spread hate and not talk about it doent mean it did not happen
Manas Arora i can’t see 50000 temples though ,it just shows 2-3 that also not broken for religious reasons but for gold and treasures kept there .and it makes no logic of taking revenge of what happened 100 hundreds of years ago to the people who live now .Just because your ancestors couldn’t fight back then your finding ways to now to fight .
@@ga2747 no i dont want revenge. We dont believe in revenge. We just wanted what's ours.
Even though i am happy with this and dont want any more of this, but we should not forget what happened in the past, how we suffered because if we do forget then we are bound to make the same mistake.
Btw we have not taken anything from muslims. They are still given land just not the land where ram was born.
@@ga2747 our ancestors could not fight the barbarians bcos they followed a dharmic way of life , they followed rules even during a war. They were not prepared for the barbarians who followed no rules nor had any morals. They lost space by the time they understood what was happening and started fighting back and fought till the very end of mughul rule
Who is the looser in this historical judgment of Ram Mandir? Let we talk about who are the winner first. The main winner is the BJP and RSS who were the pioneer in demolishing the 500 year old Babri Masjid taking laws in their hands and are now getting full possession of the Babri Majid and political gold mines for the next 10 years until the Mandir is completed and inaugurated. (ii) Almost all the political parties who have no guts to take side of Muslim minority who has been marginalized just for the sake of not loosing Hindu votes. (iii) Few Muslim political leaders who got new platform to bring Muslims in their vote banks (iv) the five SC justices who accepted the Government's dictates to frame and approved the unjust verdict will surely get lucrative postings after their retirement, and now let see who lost? Of course India's secularism, Constitution and Unity did suffer very badly but among all the main looser is the prestige, reputation and image of the Supreme Court of India.The worst it has created historical precedent of demolishing non-Hindu religious place first by goons and then use AAshtha to convert it into a Hindu religious place. No one knows whether the goons who have demolished the Masjid will ever be punished or rewarded.