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Dude this is what I mean. Why is it in other countries, to become a pilot you literally apply at an airline with zero experience and a few months later your flying a jet? I don't think this teaches pilots anything about aerodynamics or aviation, all they do is teach them to fly the plane at the minimum and a few emergency operations. It's unlikely these pilots would even know why a plane stalls and how to correct it if they don't understand aerodynamics. This will make them think if a plane is falling you keep pulling up to go up and you'll go up, not realizing it's not true. It's ridiculous. In the US, to get hired by an airline, you already need to be a pilot with 1500 flight hours and lots of knowledge and experience. And that only puts you in a small regional airline. But in other countries especially poor ones. The airline makes the pilots and 600 hours is enough to be a first officer on a a320? Wtf?
I have been a captain on the A320 for a little under a year now and the first thing i tell my FO is that if he sees me doing something wrong to not be afraid to call me out on it.
Great attitude! That, no doubt, has saved many lives on aircraft that would have crashed otherwise. The big killer on many crashes? Arrogance. Which can come in many forms. Like a copilot beat down where he/she would hardly speak to you out of fear.
You all are brave I'm scared of aircraft I'm scared to near them, I would be too scared to fly them, my mom is braver then me she said she use to want to fly ✈ plans. I can fly them well on games but I would be too scared to fly them in real life. ✈️✈️✈️✈️
My dads a retired flight instructor, he actually wrote part of transport canadas safety manual for night flying, hes an extremely experienced and very intuative pilot. Over lake winnipeg one night he started to experience it and said it was almost impossible to ignore his impulse to put the nose down, you just feel like you are gaining altitude. It took him just ignoring the front window entirely and just looking at his instruments to get back. In a king air i believe.
Instrument training was not required when I went for my private pilot's license but my instructors were all current or former military pilot's and I got it anyway. People just naturally want to see out the window. I remember how hard it was at first to just look at the instruments and fight my brain and inner ear's attempts to deceive me. Sounds like your das was born to fly!
@@angelachouinard4581 Did you get hood time and attitude recovery training for your PPL? I did, and my CFI was a former Mig 21 pilot (i.e., he was nutz!). He had me close my eyes with the hood on while he put the plane in some weird attitude, and I had to recover to S & L. I opened my eyes once to find our little Cessna in a ~30 deg, nose-down and 80 deg right bank once. (Not legal here in the US without parachutes.) It seems I was good at the hood training, and he was trying hard to get me into an attitude I didn't recognize and recover from right away. He scared the crap out of me with his fighter pilot aerobatics, which really heightened my alertness! But this slow-onset disorientation in the video is a whole different ball game. I was expecting to be in a horrible attitude, and I knew I had to rely on my instruments only. This guy didn't recognize that he was in a weird attitude, and he didn't seem to know he had to rely on his flight instruments. His head seemed to be in VFR mode while his environment was virtually IFR.
Thanks for the video. During the upgrade course for the captain, the training manager at the time refused to sign him off stating I quote "He's not ready and if you push him (you: meaning some powerful people in the company) I'm stepping down from the training" So he got PUSHED, the training manager resigned from his position. After the crash, the chairman of the board re appointed that training manager giving him full power over the training. A few years later, the training manager died of a heart attack while giving a ground school lecture. May God have mercy on your soul Tchoutch.
@canfly737 Thanks for your post on this! I was really wondering about the seemingly over-fast rise of the second captain, and curious as to whether it had been a case of some nepotism happening, or an airline desperate for pilots, or what, as Chloe didn't really explore causes there..? That sort of rapid promotion when a pilot is showing clear uncertainty around non-standard manoevres would seem to be highly dodgy today, and still very unusual in most safety-conscious airlines back in 2000...? Particularly problematic when the pilot in question was so young snd diffident, and so might reasonably be considered more at-risk for CRM problems of not speaking up about the choices of a pilot twice their age...
Unfortunately, it doesn't matter if you have the most perfect, technologically advanced plane in the world, you still have something imperfect flying it.
Mmm hmm. Without a frame of reference, acceleration and gravity can feel identical. Tragedies like this are why pilots are trained to trust their instruments and ignore what they "feel" - the human inner ear can be a fickle beast, especially when weather conditions do not allow us to see the horizon.
Mentour Pilot has explained that when people get overloaded, they stop noticing sounds, like GPWS warnings. I think planes should be redesigned to be sure to give prominent visual indications of such important things.
@@dfeuer GPWS alerts can be false alarms caused by all kinds of things. I heard them all the time when I flew jumpseat as a dispatcher many years ago, and never once was there a reason for concern. It always seemed to be an annoyance, especially in clear weather when the crew were fully aware of their height and what they were doing. It's extremely prominent as it is. (PULL UP! PULL UP! WHOOP! WHOOP! PULL UP! PULL UP!!!) It's extremely loud and jarring, and if pilots want to function well enough to land a plane safely with that thing constantly blasting, they need to be able to tune it out. It just gets lost when the pilots are busy, when it's almost never an operational issue. Maybe things are better now, but this crash happened not long after I left dispatch.
If I had some alarm, for example, inside of my front door when I opened it blaring out "Don't forget your keys, don't forget your keys" I would most likely forget my keys because it's so distracting and annoying!@@beenaplumber8379
I feel like the warning should call out the distance to the ground, And if they do nothing it should pull the nose up, even just gently, Just enough to maintain the altitude there on Obviously if the pilot is pushing past that it may not help But at least if the pilot is distracted the plane doesn't go any lower
When you hit TOGA (Takeoff Go Around) thrust in a jet aircraft things happen real quick. Both pilots need to be on top of their game. In this case, the F/O should have called out and moved the flaps as the aircraft went above the flap retraction speed. This could have unloaded the captain. Lack of experience might be the reason for his passive behavior. I remember my very first go around in a very lightly loaded A320 at night in heavy rain. It just shot up to the sky like a rocket. In such situations you better stick your eyes to the instruments. The pitch up effect you feel is extreme.
To be fair I was wondering about that while I was watching the part about the go around. “Wait a minute if the captain is pilot flying then shouldn’t the first officer be the one handling the flaps and announcing that he’s doing so? Isn’t that part of what pilot monitoring does?” I guess I’m learning. From the perspective of a ramper the first go around I recall seeing… or perhaps hearing in person was a little KLM Embraer cityhopper. We were getting into position for it and I’ve kept track of it via the airport app so I know it’s on finals. Even with my back turned I knew what was happening as the engines started screaming. We were all new and most of the team was like “why’s it going back up with the landing gear out?” Cue my explaining what one was. Fun times.
Damn, Chloe's voice is so calming, therapeutic and friendly. A very talented narrator and storyteller as well. She can be a perfect fit for narrating children shows and storybooks too.
Sorry, I know this isn't what you meant, but my mind cut straight to Chloe saying "good morning children. Today we'll be learning about why Gulf Air flight 072 crashed into the ocean, killing everyone on board. *Five minutes later* And then the pilot turned the corner very fast and his head went all whoopsie daisies". 😅
@@discospaghetti6744 Chloe is a trans- woman. Just wanna reply quick so you can delete if you want. No judgement here, she never said her name before or after coming out and I didn't know til people started talking about it in the comments
As soon as you said something about an illusion, my heart sank. It just goes to show that anyone can fall victim to something like that no matter the experience. Great video as always, Chloe.
There's two parts to the illusion issue... 1. It's your senses that you can't trust. In spite of all the training and practice in simulators (which are designed entirely to fool your senses for a "more realistic" experience) you're still trying to over-ride the instinctive need and drive to trust what your eyes see, your inner ears (balance) feel, and what your brain puts together as a mental picture of both, interpolated... You've ALWAYS got more time and experience relying on your internal senses and sensations... 2. You don't even need to be "completely fooled" by the illusion, either. It just takes a few seconds while you slip through the stages of "What the F*ck is going on".. to "This can't possibly be what it feels like if my instruments are true"... Aircraft don't exactly have "brakes" so fast or slow, you're GOING forward, and gravity ALWAYS wins. Fight as long as you like and you're still coming down to the ground. There's no reverse either, not in the air... SO all it takes is a few more seconds of "OMG" and even the most seasoned and recoverable among us is going to have too little and too late to save the plane... and then it's all over. Experience CAN help, but it makes no guarantees. ;o)
you have to trust the instruments on the aircraft in that situation .. warning horns are there for a damn good reason .. Pilots should never ignore them and think they know best
@@DisasterBreakdown It was good, I don't understand why stuff like this happens. Yes the pilots are disorientated and the thing in the ear but why not follow the instruments? Anyways cant wait to see what the topic will be next week.
I lived in Bahrain for so many years , I used to travel with Gulf Air to my home town mostly by A320 or A321. They are improved airline since the new management took over.
Always breaks my heart when lives are lost, but I also feel very sad for young pilots, just barely into their career. They had dreams, their whole life ahead of them, excitement of getting to fly, most likely trying to provide for a young family… then just gone. 😔💔
Please leave your channel suggestions, so we may properly discuss@@southpakrules I do not think I will have a complete change of mind, but at the worst I'll get some new channels to watch. Obviously cannot be channels for actual TV/streaming.
Great work Chloe 👋. I actually live in Bahrain and remember very well how this accident impacted so many lives here. Almost everyone knew someone who was on that flight. One of the victims was a friend and a neighbor. Sad times they were. I also knew of the Captain, he had a reputation for being a bit stubborn. I believe the CVR revealed that the atmosphere in the cockpit was not very cordial, with the FO being on the receiving end of few harsh words. May God rest their souls in peace 🤲
Precious effort put together to give us such content. I'm so sad that can't yet contribute to you and Green dot (the best channels imo). Can't wait to sign that patreon when I have the chance
Flying at night over water can get scary fast. At night you can tell how high above the water you are and you can become disoriented very fast when turning and leveling off. I will always remember the first time i flew a patter that took me out over the ocean on my down wind leg when I turned for base I had a few seconds of panic when I realized I couldn't tell my altitude or pitch even turning final when you see the airport it's had to judge distances and it's like your defending into a black hole
I once heard a story of a guy doing jet fighter training at night with no moon over the sea and didn't realize he was flying upside down for like 5 minutes
I worked for GF as cabin crew in the 80s and 90s and always felt safe with the flight crews. I knew the captain of this fatal flight well (RIP) he came through the ranks very quickly from a flight engineer on the Lockheed Tristar to a 2nd officer on Boeing 767s and then Captain on A320s I had left by the time of this accident It's was so sad to hear the news of this air crash and i was totally shocked to hear that my friend was possibly the cause of the loss of life.
I worked for Gulf Air same time as you. The Captain’s wife was Irish and joined shortly before I did. Most of us felt many of the locals were pushed through their training when perhaps they shouldn’t have been. Many tri star engineers shouldn’t have been pilots. Like you, I knew many of the crew on board that flight, one crew member flying back to Bahrain from days off in Cairo had managed to get the last cockpit jump seat, I had flown with her several times. Heartbreaking. The captain and his wife had young children.
Another amazing video, always part of the routine coming home from work to watch one of these! Would you consider possibly covering the 1976 Zagreb mid-air collision? Involved a Hawker Siddily Trident, an aircraft I don't think you've covered in any videos as of yet.
Wonderful video. I'm glad you defended the final actions of the pilots, because I was sitting here thinking "How could they mess up THIS badly???" but your explanation cleared things up
Gulf Air in 2000 was not owned by Bahrain only. Rather, it was with the participation of the Emirate of Abu Dhabi, the State of Qatar and the Sultanate of Oman. The full ownership of the company became Bahrain in 2007 after the aforementioned countries gradually withdrew from ownership of the company
❤❤❤ love your videos and I really enjoy how you explain the whole incident and how detailed your explanations are compared to other videos on these aviation incidents and accidents. Thank you so much ❤❤❤
Chloe: I LOVE your shows! I find them relaxing and they (strangely) help me with my ptsd. Any live streams on the radar? I would love to watch a dB video and have you explain/ comment in real time with chat questions. Thanks, KL
Illusion or not, IFR pilots are trained to trust their instruments, even when inner ear tells them something different. I don't understand what was going through his head.
Precisely. At the moment he mentioned the absence of the horizon, I was looking at the attitude indicator. And if you don’t believe that, why are neither the altimeter or vertical speed indicator changing? If you suspect instrument failure, look at one driven separately, I.e. the gyro driven artificial horizon, vs the pressure driven altimeter, or even at that height, the radio altimeter.
Agreed, my father was an A330/340 skipper with Gulf Air, before moving to the 744 with Singapore Airlines. He did bring up a good point (I've only flown a C172) The A320 is extremely overpowered, it had burnt off fuel from the trip, toga thrust at light weight is extreme, somatogravic illusion will be intense at night with no visual cues. You can only train to trust the instruments, but the sim cannot train you for the feeling.
Oh wow, that's like driving down a dark highway at night with the headlights off, and that's already scary enough, let alone having it happen on a plane!
Thats not the same at all. You have your instruments telling you all you need to know. And the GPS is showing you exactly where you are. Once you are aligned with the runway direction the autopilot is flying the plane right to the runway. It's just when you leave that envelope due to problems it becomes visible if the pilots are able to really fly the airplane. Two pilots mean that one is on duty to monitor the instruments while the other is flying the plane. It all has just not be done here.
I perfectly recall seeing this on the news. That summer (2000) had been filled with various disasters: first the Concorde crashing 1.5 months before, then the Kursk, then this...
Hey. I've been keeping up with all your uploads (just not since the beginning.) Love the content. Wondering, is the Sun Valley Mall Disaster already on your list of topics to cover in the future if you haven't already? Really like your style of presentation over most others in this genre (and think it would make for a pretty interesting video because of that). Thanks!
This Accident was one of primary accidents in Date base in terms of factors which were involved Especially in middle east aviation Culture.Thank you very much that You Finally made this imoirtant video for Aviation Community.
X Gulf air crew ..so I will refrain from commenting on this incident ..I watch all your videos and have worked this route many times with Gulf Air cabin crew. I must compliment you on your professionalism and eloquent voice, such an excellent video, and so detailed.. Thank you and rest in peace both crew and pax,
A very interesting & informative video - think your videos are the best of all flight video’s I watch. When training for my PPL, I well remember thee spatial disorientation lessons (artificially engaged by my instructor - I only ever rated VFR level of PPL). The lessons were incorporated at my flying school, in case we shoul ever find ourselves caught out by weather or a couple of other circumstances. I wondered when you were going to refer to the ‘flap over speed’ issue, given that all the aeroplanes I flew nearly all had makings on the ASI - including VNR.On a C172 & it’s stablemates, this was 85kias. No airbrakes of course, but I usually slowed the aircraft down to approximately 80kias,during the downwind leg of a circus by applying carburettor heat & reducing revs sharply & raising the nose attitude slightly, then applying 20 degrees of flap before turning base & losing height to turn final at 500ft - naturally, trimming out the aircraft for stable approach, 30 degrees selected on final(some types had 49 decrees available - quite common on C185s. What surprised me, was that Captain didn’t rip these control surfaces off if had attempted to pull up sharply doing in excess of 229 knots.
What boggles my mind is that they were able to retrieve all 143+1 fetus. This is incomprehensible to me. One would think that human bodies would be "obliterated" with this amount of force. Hats off to the recovery team.
I stood watch that night and our ship GW team recovered Everyone thinking it was a rescue mission...we didn't find out til the next day that it was actually a recovery mission and everyone on the plane passed. 🙏💯
Hi Chloe, your channel is terrific. Have watched many Airplane disaster videos. However, most wére re-enactments and I really don't need to see people scared as they plummet to the earth or ocean. I'm much more interested in the way you give us some background about the plane involved,then explain what happened, and my favorite part- talking about the investigation into the accident to find cause so that it doesn't happen again.I have only recently discovered your videos and have been binge watching for days. Please do not fret about getting your videos done by a certain day I really don't think anyone cares it's the quality that matters and it takes as long as it takes your material is excellent and I don't want you to shortchange yourself by trying to hurry because we're very happy I'm sure with the way things are going now. Also if I may comment on your other channel I did discover that as well just the other day and when I saw all the songs that you had uploaded I really went and started listening and I couldn't get over your unbelievable voice I mean you are truly fantastic you have such a tone to your voice I could listen to it all day and honestly I have no idea what you were saying in any of your song I was just enjoying listening to you. I hope you will be discovered soon so that everyone will be able to enjoy your music .😁🥰🙃
Was there no communication between the cockpit and tower when the plane suddenly made a left hand turn and flew not only over the airport but out over the Gulf?
Chloe has the voice that goes well in the description of the impending disaster. Whether that is a plus or minus it still prevails. No matter how advance the manufacturers make aircrafts; the human element is still there. The open dialog about future aircrafts to be design tol be flown with no human factor is in hot debate. However, that will be a difficult pill to swallow at least with Americans.
They offered free fun flights when I worked in Bahrain, but they were terrifying, according to those that I spoke to. They often used boac pilots, and when passengers heard the posh British voice welcoming passengers, there was an audible outpouring of relief.
How long ago was this? I was based in Bahrain from the 90's. My Dad was a Captain on the GF 737/767 then moved to the A330/340, I jumpseated a lot before they banned it after the Sept 11th attacks. Flight crew had always been very professional, and my father never complained to us. Some crew did worry about young local pilots being fast tracked, but 20+ years of flying and we had nothing but respect for the pilots from all nationalities.
I just don't fully understand how this happened. If he's Captain, instrument trained, flying at night, with relatively few outside cues helping orientation, shouldn't he have been flying IFR or at least confirming with his instruments that he is indeed descending? Notwithstanding all the bad decisions to this point, he has to have some level of training!!! I remember my flight instructor who was also the CFI, always telling me, and many times with emotion, TRUST YOUR INSTRUMENTS ... R.I.P to those who passed on this flight ...
@burningphoneix Agrred but it then begs the question, why put such an inexperienced co-pilot in such an environment? I think I know why but still, this was just such an unnecessary accident given that there was nothing fundamentally wrong with the plane. So sad ...
I had a great love for the A-300. As a flight attendant it was the best plane I ever flew on, for 20 yrs. passengers loved it too and always put them in a better mood flying coast to coast. I never remember taking a mechanical delay in one. Weather yes, but mechanical no. Air Bus is a great company.
Me, too; it's just heartbreaking. I can't help but think about the mother's & baby's family. My prayers are with them and all of the victims' families. 💔
@Disaster Compilation, I think that Kenya Airways Flight 507 also suffered same fate as Flight 072, except that flight 507 crashed shortly after take off while flight 072 crashed on approach. The pilots on both aircraft suffered from Spacial Disorientation.
It is terrifying that there are so many sub-par and less than smart pilots flying people around in planes. Many are just passes along because it's the "nice" thing to do. Or "he has so much experience " he must be good.
Great program as always - thanks. Cannot a simple plumb bob be suspended from the cockpit ceiling - at a glance pilots could see whether or not they are level or inclined.
Apparently that doesn't work. Something to do with centrifugal force, pitch, bank angle, speed in a 3D space means that, under normal flying conditions, you can turn a plane and still keep a glass of water level. Physicists will be able to explain but basically it isn't possible nor is it needed when there are highly specialised instruments right in front of the pilots with several redundancies as well as fly by wire safety fallbacks which give announcements to the pilots when it thinks something isn't right.
Great video as always. For the music annotations, would you consider referencing a list in the video description instead of displaying full title and artist on screen? Something like ♪ [1] might look tidier for those of us who enjoy the minimal, animation-focused style.
Pardon my naiveté, but is it just me or does it seem that Airbus crashes root causes lean more towards pilot error and mishandling of the Airbus’ “technical” systems vs Boeings and McDonnell-Douglas’ being more mechanical issues with pilot error?
As a young man, I flew commercially thousands of miles for about five years. It seemed the hardest part for me was taking off. I used to sing Steve Miller's "Fly like an Eagle" with my fingers crossed under my thighs to hide them. After that I was a trooper. Lol. Sorry about these folks.
You did a great job Mr. Disaster Breakdown. I love your accent (what language),and soft voice it calms me down. Have watched several of your videos, and they are all good but I have never commented before now. My thing-a-ma-gig name says linwood (mans name) but I am not a man.. I'll keep watching but am too poor to send $, sorry. God Bless you and yours, Linda Marie
I was 2 at the time, me and my mom were traveling from cairo to riyadh, we were at the same terminal as this flight, my mom told me that she was chatting with some passengers from this crash. When we arrived to riyadh, my mom knew of the incident. It was so traumatic to her, she developed phobia from airplanes. She didn't fly in any airplane ever since
The A320 has a PERFECT safety record in the USA, with only one recorded crash in the Hudson River after both engines flamed out. The PIC and SIC together possibly had 50,000+ hours between them. Airbus are very advanced airplanes; thus, most A320 new-hire pilots come aboard with at least 2000+ hours of jet PIC time n other airlines. It's not the unstabilized approach that got this unfortunate crew. Everyone has done that. Maybe it was the corporate culture of Gulf Air that frowned upon pilots who performed go-arounds. A "go-around", or missed approach is a successful termination of an instrument approach. Your "Disaster Breakdown" videos are very informative and educational. A pilot can never stop learning. Thank you for the good work!
Holy cow! At (16:52) everything you said about the character of the Fist Officer matches the traits of Omani people in general. I know that, I work with them. They are extremely reserved, shy and non confrontational. So when I heard what you said i screamed “that’s damn right”. Wow!!
I remember when this happened the whole island went to mourning. Our island is so small and most people are either related or friends with one another. May they all rest in peace.
Well Hearing the Pregnant Passenger and it's Fetus is not the 144th Passenger, but the actual 144th Passenger ( Hisham al-Husseini) is actually was suppose to go onto that doomed flight but Due to Immigration Reasons that he did not do Nessesary Documents to go to his job on Teaching Arabic in Bahrain He was not accepted for the flight. After He Heared the Plane Had Crashed Later on, His Body Felt Cold as He has seen the Doomed Passengers Passing him as they Boarded into the Doomed Flight. If you are Seeing this Hisham Al Husseini, I hope You are Doing Well Sir. I am also Giving My Heartfelt Condolences to the Families Who Lost their Loved Ones on the Unfortunate and Sad Accident on that day. May God Grant them Eternal Peace in Heaven. Aameen. Great Video Chloe, Also Do Air Lanka Flight 512 Incident If you can.
Glaring example of complete lack of experience on both pilots. I have a ton of flight time in various large aircraft and my first instinct would have been to pull the thrust back when I saw the speed racing upwards. Regardless of whether or not I thought I was claiming or descending. And it’s really not that hard to develop good scans techniques to see the attitude of the aircraft, whether or not it’s climbing or descending, or if it’s in a turn. It’s a real shame that the flying public has to play the lottery when flying and have the sad unfortunate to be on a flight with such incompetence. Being stable on final approach is so important. No reason to stray outside of this or execute Blue Angels type flying to fix an approach gone bad.
In the 1970s Gulf Air offered free proving / training crew flights. Staff at my company thought it wiuld be fun and get freedrinks etc. The following evening the sombre staff said it was terrifying and were very glad to get off - anywhere. I flew back to london later that month, When the pilot spoke in upper class english, the woman next to me said thank god he's english, and told me of frightening experiences of flying with forign pilots..
I`m always interested in these Aviation Detective events (tho` a Groundhugger!) and enjoy different `takes` on such occurences, yours being amonGst the best. You got a new Patreon - Where`s the T SHIRTS!!!!!!!!
It's interesting that we have a Captain with 1000 hours experience on the type who'd been promoted to Captain 2 months prior, paired with a First Officer with 600 hours of total flight time. I don't think it's too much of a stretch to say the crew scheduling system should have never allowed that.
It is long overdue the multiple individual instruments are intergrated into a pictorial image of the plane as per flight simulator software. The interfaces are in place it can even be done by Bluetooth style linkage.
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Disaster breakdown could you do china airlines flight 140?
that crash hilighed the combination of poor training and design flaw of the airbus!
After EGYPTAIR MS 990 JFK BOEING 767 300ER almost a luxury liner!
Dude this is what I mean. Why is it in other countries, to become a pilot you literally apply at an airline with zero experience and a few months later your flying a jet? I don't think this teaches pilots anything about aerodynamics or aviation, all they do is teach them to fly the plane at the minimum and a few emergency operations. It's unlikely these pilots would even know why a plane stalls and how to correct it if they don't understand aerodynamics. This will make them think if a plane is falling you keep pulling up to go up and you'll go up, not realizing it's not true. It's ridiculous. In the US, to get hired by an airline, you already need to be a pilot with 1500 flight hours and lots of knowledge and experience. And that only puts you in a small regional airline. But in other countries especially poor ones. The airline makes the pilots and 600 hours is enough to be a first officer on a a320? Wtf?
@@pennywaltz4601 4
spiderman into spiderverse< never fly with airbus/aircrash!
I have been a captain on the A320 for a little under a year now and the first thing i tell my FO is that if he sees me doing something wrong to not be afraid to call me out on it.
Excellent approach. 👍👍👍
Great attitude! That, no doubt, has saved many lives on aircraft that would have crashed otherwise. The big killer on many crashes? Arrogance. Which can come in many forms. Like a copilot beat down where he/she would hardly speak to you out of fear.
Being a pilot myself, you being humble is awesome. Good man
You all are brave I'm scared of aircraft I'm scared to near them, I would be too scared to fly them, my mom is braver then me she said she use to want to fly ✈ plans. I can fly them well on games but I would be too scared to fly them in real life. ✈️✈️✈️✈️
Smart boss!
My dads a retired flight instructor, he actually wrote part of transport canadas safety manual for night flying, hes an extremely experienced and very intuative pilot.
Over lake winnipeg one night he started to experience it and said it was almost impossible to ignore his impulse to put the nose down, you just feel like you are gaining altitude. It took him just ignoring the front window entirely and just looking at his instruments to get back. In a king air i believe.
Instrument training was not required when I went for my private pilot's license but my instructors were all current or former military pilot's and I got it anyway. People just naturally want to see out the window. I remember how hard it was at first to just look at the instruments and fight my brain and inner ear's attempts to deceive me. Sounds like your das was born to fly!
@@angelachouinard4581 Did you get hood time and attitude recovery training for your PPL? I did, and my CFI was a former Mig 21 pilot (i.e., he was nutz!). He had me close my eyes with the hood on while he put the plane in some weird attitude, and I had to recover to S & L. I opened my eyes once to find our little Cessna in a ~30 deg, nose-down and 80 deg right bank once. (Not legal here in the US without parachutes.) It seems I was good at the hood training, and he was trying hard to get me into an attitude I didn't recognize and recover from right away. He scared the crap out of me with his fighter pilot aerobatics, which really heightened my alertness! But this slow-onset disorientation in the video is a whole different ball game. I was expecting to be in a horrible attitude, and I knew I had to rely on my instruments only. This guy didn't recognize that he was in a weird attitude, and he didn't seem to know he had to rely on his flight instruments. His head seemed to be in VFR mode while his environment was virtually IFR.
Thanks for the video. During the upgrade course for the captain, the training manager at the time refused to sign him off stating I quote "He's not ready and if you push him (you: meaning some powerful people in the company) I'm stepping down from the training"
So he got PUSHED, the training manager resigned from his position. After the crash, the chairman of the board re appointed that training manager giving him full power over the training.
A few years later, the training manager died of a heart attack while giving a ground school lecture.
May God have mercy on your soul Tchoutch.
@@FiboFractal. Your feeling was right.
Accident waiting to happen 😥
@canfly737 Thanks for your post on this! I was really wondering about the seemingly over-fast rise of the second captain, and curious as to whether it had been a case of some nepotism happening, or an airline desperate for pilots, or what, as Chloe didn't really explore causes there..?
That sort of rapid promotion when a pilot is showing clear uncertainty around non-standard manoevres would seem to be highly dodgy today, and still very unusual in most safety-conscious airlines back in 2000...? Particularly problematic when the pilot in question was so young snd diffident, and so might reasonably be considered more at-risk for CRM problems of not speaking up about the choices of a pilot twice their age...
@@anna_in_aotearoa3166 yeah, I was wondering about nepotism as well.
So few people have the strength of character of that training officer. He must have been sad after the crash. He tried to warn them.
Unfortunately, it doesn't matter if you have the most perfect, technologically advanced plane in the world, you still have something imperfect flying it.
You did well on this, and managed to effectively described the almost unworldly view that darkness and acceleration can create.
Mmm hmm. Without a frame of reference, acceleration and gravity can feel identical. Tragedies like this are why pilots are trained to trust their instruments and ignore what they "feel" - the human inner ear can be a fickle beast, especially when weather conditions do not allow us to see the horizon.
I've watched so many crash investigation programs and I can't believe how many times ground proximity warnings and other safety systems are ignored
Mentour Pilot has explained that when people get overloaded, they stop noticing sounds, like GPWS warnings. I think planes should be redesigned to be sure to give prominent visual indications of such important things.
@@dfeuer GPWS alerts can be false alarms caused by all kinds of things. I heard them all the time when I flew jumpseat as a dispatcher many years ago, and never once was there a reason for concern. It always seemed to be an annoyance, especially in clear weather when the crew were fully aware of their height and what they were doing. It's extremely prominent as it is. (PULL UP! PULL UP! WHOOP! WHOOP! PULL UP! PULL UP!!!) It's extremely loud and jarring, and if pilots want to function well enough to land a plane safely with that thing constantly blasting, they need to be able to tune it out. It just gets lost when the pilots are busy, when it's almost never an operational issue. Maybe things are better now, but this crash happened not long after I left dispatch.
If I had some alarm, for example, inside of my front door when I opened it blaring out "Don't forget your keys, don't forget your keys" I would most likely forget my keys because it's so distracting and annoying!@@beenaplumber8379
Visual might not be better. It would have to be wherever the attention is at that moment
I feel like the warning should call out the distance to the ground, And if they do nothing it should pull the nose up, even just gently, Just enough to maintain the altitude there on
Obviously if the pilot is pushing past that it may not help
But at least if the pilot is distracted the plane doesn't go any lower
When you hit TOGA (Takeoff Go Around) thrust in a jet aircraft things happen real quick. Both pilots need to be on top of their game. In this case, the F/O should have called out and moved the flaps as the aircraft went above the flap retraction speed. This could have unloaded the captain. Lack of experience might be the reason for his passive behavior.
I remember my very first go around in a very lightly loaded A320 at night in heavy rain. It just shot up to the sky like a rocket. In such situations you better stick your eyes to the instruments. The pitch up effect you feel is extreme.
To be fair I was wondering about that while I was watching the part about the go around. “Wait a minute if the captain is pilot flying then shouldn’t the first officer be the one handling the flaps and announcing that he’s doing so? Isn’t that part of what pilot monitoring does?” I guess I’m learning.
From the perspective of a ramper the first go around I recall seeing… or perhaps hearing in person was a little KLM Embraer cityhopper. We were getting into position for it and I’ve kept track of it via the airport app so I know it’s on finals. Even with my back turned I knew what was happening as the engines started screaming. We were all new and most of the team was like “why’s it going back up with the landing gear out?” Cue my explaining what one was. Fun times.
Thank you for your post. It helps partly explain.
You just would hope the pilot would have been trained about this, ahem ...
It's early on the morning and you best believe im watching this whole thing. Video quality on this channel is just outstanding. Keep it up.
Thanks for watching!
Damn, Chloe's voice is so calming, therapeutic and friendly. A very talented narrator and storyteller as well. She can be a perfect fit for narrating children shows and storybooks too.
Don't give me ideas :)
Thanks for your kind words!
Sorry, I know this isn't what you meant, but my mind cut straight to Chloe saying "good morning children. Today we'll be learning about why Gulf Air flight 072 crashed into the ocean, killing everyone on board.
*Five minutes later*
And then the pilot turned the corner very fast and his head went all whoopsie daisies".
😅
I absolutely agree, she should be a audiobook narrator or something!
Wait, it's narrated by a woman?? All these years I thought it was a dude damn.
@@discospaghetti6744 Chloe is a trans- woman. Just wanna reply quick so you can delete if you want. No judgement here, she never said her name before or after coming out and I didn't know til people started talking about it in the comments
As soon as you said something about an illusion, my heart sank. It just goes to show that anyone can fall victim to something like that no matter the experience. Great video as always, Chloe.
I was just reading about this problem, when Pilots cant tell the sky from the ground and it is so scary!
There's two parts to the illusion issue...
1. It's your senses that you can't trust. In spite of all the training and practice in simulators (which are designed entirely to fool your senses for a "more realistic" experience) you're still trying to over-ride the instinctive need and drive to trust what your eyes see, your inner ears (balance) feel, and what your brain puts together as a mental picture of both, interpolated... You've ALWAYS got more time and experience relying on your internal senses and sensations...
2. You don't even need to be "completely fooled" by the illusion, either. It just takes a few seconds while you slip through the stages of "What the F*ck is going on".. to "This can't possibly be what it feels like if my instruments are true"...
Aircraft don't exactly have "brakes" so fast or slow, you're GOING forward, and gravity ALWAYS wins. Fight as long as you like and you're still coming down to the ground. There's no reverse either, not in the air... SO all it takes is a few more seconds of "OMG" and even the most seasoned and recoverable among us is going to have too little and too late to save the plane... and then it's all over.
Experience CAN help, but it makes no guarantees. ;o)
you have to trust the instruments on the aircraft in that situation .. warning horns are there for a damn good reason .. Pilots should never ignore them and think they know best
I remember seeing this on your community post, time to watch!
Let me know what you think of the video :)
@@DisasterBreakdown It was good, I don't understand why stuff like this happens. Yes the pilots are disorientated and the thing in the ear but why not follow the instruments? Anyways cant wait to see what the topic will be next week.
I lived in Bahrain for so many years , I used to travel with Gulf Air to my home town mostly by A320 or A321.
They are improved airline since the new management took over.
I’m going in October and I’m scared now bcs of this vid 😭😭
Always breaks my heart when lives are lost, but I also feel very sad for young pilots, just barely into their career. They had dreams, their whole life ahead of them, excitement of getting to fly, most likely trying to provide for a young family… then just gone. 😔💔
Great video!
RIP to everyone on board flight 072.
AMEN!!!🙏😢✈️❣️
Brilliant work as usual Chloe! You're the A grade for plane crash UA-cam channels.
There are more than a few, but you do it better.
I like Mentour pilot as well
Not by a long shot. C+ at best, D- as average. Still (mostly) watchable.
Please leave your channel suggestions, so we may properly discuss@@southpakrules
I do not think I will have a complete change of mind, but at the worst I'll get some new channels to watch.
Obviously cannot be channels for actual TV/streaming.
Great work Chloe 👋. I actually live in Bahrain and remember very well how this accident impacted so many lives here. Almost everyone knew someone who was on that flight. One of the victims was a friend and a neighbor. Sad times they were.
I also knew of the Captain, he had a reputation for being a bit stubborn. I believe the CVR revealed that the atmosphere in the cockpit was not very cordial, with the FO being on the receiving end of few harsh words.
May God rest their souls in peace 🤲
@Anno Kitsune They try to call the guy running the channel "Chloe" because they want to convince themselves that he's a woman.
Thank you for sharing.
This captain is now circling over an erupting volcano and about to dive in.
He can try to fly out while burning in hell !
I've been binging your videos since subscribing and have become even more fascinated. Another interesting story as always.
Thanks, glad you have been enjoying the content.
Another well-researched and superbly produced video. I generally watch at night and find Chloe's voice so calming, Thank you.
Thank you for a calm and sensitive analysis of this sad disaster. RIP all those list.
Love your voice and the clear explanation of the events. Great job!!
Precious effort put together to give us such content. I'm so sad that can't yet contribute to you and Green dot (the best channels imo). Can't wait to sign that patreon when I have the chance
Flying at night over water can get scary fast. At night you can tell how high above the water you are and you can become disoriented very fast when turning and leveling off. I will always remember the first time i flew a patter that took me out over the ocean on my down wind leg when I turned for base I had a few seconds of panic when I realized I couldn't tell my altitude or pitch even turning final when you see the airport it's had to judge distances and it's like your defending into a black hole
Obviously
I once heard a story of a guy doing jet fighter training at night with no moon over the sea and didn't realize he was flying upside down for like 5 minutes
Yep but you gotta maintain self-defending no matter how inevitable going into the black hole is.
It's very easy to get disoriented but this is why you're supposed to trust your instruments in those cases
@@Cynsham why he didn't
Excellent work as usual, Chloe. Thanks.
The brief history lesson on the A320 was a nice touch, really. 😉👍✈️
I was really wishing to see someone covers this incident, Wonderful work 🤙
Always look forward to your uploads, great job as always Chloe
I'm confused. What is Chloe?
@@Jabarri74 chloe is the person who makes these videos
@@kais3297 don't think so, it's definitely a guy narrating
@@aaravtulsyan you can look up her social media linked in the channel
I worked for GF as cabin crew in the 80s and 90s and always felt safe with the flight crews. I knew the captain of this fatal flight well (RIP) he came through the ranks very quickly from a flight engineer on the Lockheed Tristar to a 2nd officer on Boeing 767s and then Captain on A320s I had left by the time of this accident It's was so sad to hear the news of this air crash and i was totally shocked to hear that my friend was possibly the cause of the loss of life.
I worked for Gulf Air same time as you. The Captain’s wife was Irish and joined shortly before I did. Most of us felt many of the locals were pushed through their training when perhaps they shouldn’t have been. Many tri star engineers shouldn’t have been pilots. Like you, I knew many of the crew on board that flight, one crew member flying back to Bahrain from days off in Cairo had managed to get the last cockpit jump seat, I had flown with her several times. Heartbreaking. The captain and his wife had young children.
Another amazing video, always part of the routine coming home from work to watch one of these!
Would you consider possibly covering the 1976 Zagreb mid-air collision?
Involved a Hawker Siddily Trident, an aircraft I don't think you've covered in any videos as of yet.
Wonderful video. I'm glad you defended the final actions of the pilots, because I was sitting here thinking "How could they mess up THIS badly???" but your explanation cleared things up
Excuses and more excuses to cover up and sanitize this pilot's recklessness
Thank you for these details. I have been waiting for these details for years. I liked this video👏👍
Good to see this rarely covered incident from where I live broken down well.
Good job Chloe!
I like your presentation. Keep up the great work! My condolences to the dead and their families.
Gulf Air in 2000 was not owned by Bahrain only. Rather, it was with the participation of the Emirate of Abu Dhabi, the State of Qatar and the Sultanate of Oman. The full ownership of the company became Bahrain in 2007 after the aforementioned countries gradually withdrew from ownership of the company
Excellent work as always Chloe :)
Excellent description and your voice is great
RIP to the ones on board and my heart reaches out to the family members of the victims😢🙏🏻
Thanks
I'm a bit late to this video, it's sad to hear that there was a person onboard who has never seen the light of day.
Yes😭
Thank you Chloe for the video (as always)!
This is an excellent video as well as very informative. Thank you again for your research and hard work!
Excellent episode as always Sir, thank you!!!🙏😢✈️❣️
I mean no disrespect to you, but the voice behind this channel is a woman!
❤❤❤ love your videos and I really enjoy how you explain the whole incident and how detailed your explanations are compared to other videos on these aviation incidents and accidents. Thank you so much ❤❤❤
Chloe: I LOVE your shows! I find them relaxing and they (strangely) help me with my ptsd. Any live streams on the radar? I would love to watch a dB video and have you explain/ comment in real time with chat questions.
Thanks, KL
Illusion or not, IFR pilots are trained to trust their instruments, even when inner ear tells them something different. I don't understand what was going through his head.
Precisely. At the moment he mentioned the absence of the horizon, I was looking at the attitude indicator. And if you don’t believe that, why are neither the altimeter or vertical speed indicator changing? If you suspect instrument failure, look at one driven separately, I.e. the gyro driven artificial horizon, vs the pressure driven altimeter, or even at that height, the radio altimeter.
Agreed, my father was an A330/340 skipper with Gulf Air, before moving to the 744 with Singapore Airlines. He did bring up a good point (I've only flown a C172) The A320 is extremely overpowered, it had burnt off fuel from the trip, toga thrust at light weight is extreme, somatogravic illusion will be intense at night with no visual cues. You can only train to trust the instruments, but the sim cannot train you for the feeling.
Oh wow, that's like driving down a dark highway at night with the headlights off, and that's already scary enough, let alone having it happen on a plane!
Thats not the same at all. You have your instruments telling you all you need to know. And the GPS is showing you exactly where you are. Once you are aligned with the runway direction the autopilot is flying the plane right to the runway. It's just when you leave that envelope due to problems it becomes visible if the pilots are able to really fly the airplane.
Two pilots mean that one is on duty to monitor the instruments while the other is flying the plane. It all has just not be done here.
I perfectly recall seeing this on the news. That summer (2000) had been filled with various disasters: first the Concorde crashing 1.5 months before, then the Kursk, then this...
I was waiting for this one!
I've been making to make this one for a long while, happy to have finally gotten round to it.
Hey. I've been keeping up with all your uploads (just not since the beginning.) Love the content.
Wondering, is the Sun Valley Mall Disaster already on your list of topics to cover in the future if you haven't already? Really like your style of presentation over most others in this genre (and think it would make for a pretty interesting video because of that). Thanks!
This Accident was one of primary accidents in Date base in terms of factors which were involved Especially in middle east aviation Culture.Thank you very much that You Finally made this imoirtant video for Aviation Community.
X Gulf air crew ..so I will refrain from commenting on this incident ..I watch all your videos and have worked this route many times with Gulf Air cabin crew. I must compliment you on your professionalism and eloquent voice, such an excellent video, and so detailed.. Thank you and rest in peace both crew and pax,
A very interesting & informative video - think your videos are the best of all flight video’s I watch. When training for my PPL, I well remember thee spatial disorientation lessons (artificially engaged by my instructor - I only ever rated VFR level of PPL). The lessons were incorporated at my flying school, in case we shoul ever find ourselves caught out by weather or a couple of other circumstances. I wondered when you were going to refer to the ‘flap over speed’ issue, given that all the aeroplanes I flew nearly all had makings on the ASI - including VNR.On a C172 & it’s stablemates, this was 85kias. No airbrakes of course, but I usually slowed the aircraft down to approximately 80kias,during the downwind leg of a circus by applying carburettor heat & reducing revs sharply & raising the nose attitude slightly, then applying 20 degrees of flap before turning base & losing height to turn final at 500ft - naturally, trimming out the aircraft for stable approach, 30 degrees selected on final(some types had 49 decrees available - quite common on C185s. What surprised me, was that Captain didn’t rip these control surfaces off if had attempted to pull up sharply doing in excess of 229 knots.
Great video as always Chloe
Thank you!!
Love your videos. Very interesting!
Flown on gulf air via Bahrain multiple times. This has scared me a little. Hopefully lessons were learned and procedures updated after this tragedy.
Just now landed from gulf air and this news 😭
The CVR recording from this sounds like it must be hugely baffling and fascinating
What boggles my mind is that they were able to retrieve all 143+1 fetus. This is incomprehensible to me. One would think that human bodies would be "obliterated" with this amount of force. Hats off to the recovery team.
I stood watch that night and our ship GW team recovered Everyone thinking it was a rescue mission...we didn't find out til the next day that it was actually a recovery mission and everyone on the plane passed. 🙏💯
The bodies were in pieces. DNA tests were used to identify the pieces 😢
Thanks so much! Love your videos!!😊❤ Can you do one on the Avianca crash into a volcano in El Salvador 🇸🇻 in the 1990s?
Chloe you're a talented woman and your content is incredible
Hi Chloe, your channel is terrific. Have watched many
Airplane disaster videos. However, most wére re-enactments and I really don't need to see people scared as they plummet to the earth or ocean. I'm much more interested in the way you give us some background about the plane involved,then explain what happened, and my favorite part- talking about the investigation into the accident to find cause so that it doesn't happen again.I have only recently discovered your videos and have been binge watching for days. Please do not fret about getting your videos done by a certain day I really don't think anyone cares it's the quality that matters and it takes as long as it takes your material is excellent and I don't want you to shortchange yourself by trying to hurry because we're very happy I'm sure with the way things are going now. Also if I may comment on your other channel I did discover that as well just the other day and when I saw all the songs that you had uploaded I really went and started listening and I couldn't get over your unbelievable voice I mean you are truly fantastic you have such a tone to your voice I could listen to it all day and honestly I have no idea what you were saying in any of your song I was just enjoying listening to you. I hope you will be discovered soon so that everyone will be able to enjoy your music .😁🥰🙃
Was there no communication between the cockpit and tower when the plane suddenly made a left hand turn and flew not only over the airport but out over the Gulf?
Another great video Chloe girl! 😘😘😘
Your videos are very informative
As always brilliant documentary. I flew Gulf Air in 1993
I remember actually flying on a gulf air A320 on my trip to India last year
The somatogravic illusion part reminds of the JFK Jr crash- an accident I’d love to see covered on the channel (if there is enough material)
Lack of horizon at night over water caused lack of situational awareness
I was thinking the same thing. I watched a video a few months ago about JFK Jr accident.
This is one reason I never liked flying unless I was the pilot.
great video, as always!
Now that you mention it, I look forward to a video on FlyDubai Flight 981. This is so scary, sad, and completely unnecessary. Those poor people.
Chloe has the voice that goes well in the description of the impending disaster. Whether that is a plus or minus it still prevails. No matter how advance the manufacturers make aircrafts; the human element is still there. The open dialog about future aircrafts to be design tol be flown with no human factor is in hot debate. However, that will be a difficult pill to swallow at least with Americans.
They offered free fun flights when I worked in Bahrain, but they were terrifying, according to those that I spoke to. They often used boac pilots, and when passengers heard the posh British voice welcoming passengers, there was an audible outpouring of relief.
How long ago was this? I was based in Bahrain from the 90's. My Dad was a Captain on the GF 737/767 then moved to the A330/340, I jumpseated a lot before they banned it after the Sept 11th attacks. Flight crew had always been very professional, and my father never complained to us. Some crew did worry about young local pilots being fast tracked, but 20+ years of flying and we had nothing but respect for the pilots from all nationalities.
I lost a friend on this flight, thanks for covering it
Oh very sorry
I just don't fully understand how this happened. If he's Captain, instrument trained, flying at night, with relatively few outside cues helping orientation, shouldn't he have been flying IFR or at least confirming with his instruments that he is indeed descending? Notwithstanding all the bad decisions to this point, he has to have some level of training!!! I remember my flight instructor who was also the CFI, always telling me, and many times with emotion, TRUST YOUR INSTRUMENTS ...
R.I.P to those who passed on this flight ...
tunnel vision followed by a panic
Just a theory of mine was that he didn't trust his inexperienced FO and took on more of the workload than he was used to.
@burningphoneix Agrred but it then begs the question, why put such an inexperienced co-pilot in such an environment? I think I know why but still, this was just such an unnecessary accident given that there was nothing fundamentally wrong with the plane. So sad ...
Excellent work.
I had a great love for the A-300. As a flight attendant it was the best plane I ever flew on, for 20 yrs. passengers loved it too and always put them in a better mood flying coast to coast. I never remember taking a mechanical delay in one. Weather yes, but mechanical no.
Air Bus is a great company.
Part about the unborn baby really hit me.😢
Yes, that was particularly sad to hear. 😢🕊️
Me, too; it's just heartbreaking. I can't help but think about the mother's & baby's family. My prayers are with them and all of the victims' families. 💔
@@KristinCortez amen 🙏 to that
Pale in comparison to the number of abortions, child abandonments & abuse
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Great video. Thanks
@Disaster Compilation, I think that Kenya Airways Flight 507 also suffered same fate as Flight 072, except that flight 507 crashed shortly after take off while flight 072 crashed on approach. The pilots on both aircraft suffered from Spacial Disorientation.
I love the calm telling voice.
Chole. I wanted to see you covering about Aeromexico 498 for quite awhile. Can you consider to do it?
I think I have it lined up to be the next Mid Air collision I'll be covering. So it will be coming!
It is terrifying that there are so many sub-par and less than smart pilots flying people around in planes.
Many are just passes along because it's the "nice" thing to do. Or "he has so much experience " he must be good.
Great program as always - thanks. Cannot a simple plumb bob be suspended from the cockpit ceiling - at a glance pilots could see whether or not they are level or inclined.
I feel like that would be too easily influenced by acceleration and vibration to be true
Apparently that doesn't work. Something to do with centrifugal force, pitch, bank angle, speed in a 3D space means that, under normal flying conditions, you can turn a plane and still keep a glass of water level. Physicists will be able to explain but basically it isn't possible nor is it needed when there are highly specialised instruments right in front of the pilots with several redundancies as well as fly by wire safety fallbacks which give announcements to the pilots when it thinks something isn't right.
Great Video!
Thanks for sharing. 😉👌🏻
Great video as always. For the music annotations, would you consider referencing a list in the video description instead of displaying full title and artist on screen? Something like ♪ [1] might look tidier for those of us who enjoy the minimal, animation-focused style.
Pardon my naiveté, but is it just me or does it seem that Airbus crashes root causes lean more towards pilot error and mishandling of the Airbus’ “technical” systems vs Boeings and McDonnell-Douglas’ being more mechanical issues with pilot error?
There’s some truth in that.
As a young man, I flew commercially thousands of miles for about five years. It seemed the hardest part for me was taking off. I used to sing Steve Miller's "Fly like an Eagle" with my fingers crossed under my thighs to hide them. After that I was a trooper. Lol. Sorry about these folks.
You did a great job Mr. Disaster Breakdown. I love your accent (what language),and soft voice it calms me down. Have watched several of your videos, and they are all good but I have never commented before now. My thing-a-ma-gig name says linwood (mans name) but I am not a man.. I'll keep watching but am too poor to send $, sorry. God Bless you and yours, Linda Marie
I was 2 at the time, me and my mom were traveling from cairo to riyadh, we were at the same terminal as this flight, my mom told me that she was chatting with some passengers from this crash. When we arrived to riyadh, my mom knew of the incident. It was so traumatic to her, she developed phobia from airplanes. She didn't fly in any airplane ever since
Very informative.
The A320 has a PERFECT safety record in the USA, with only one recorded crash in the Hudson River after both engines flamed out. The PIC and SIC together possibly had 50,000+ hours between them. Airbus are very advanced airplanes; thus, most A320 new-hire pilots come aboard with at least 2000+ hours of jet PIC time n other airlines.
It's not the unstabilized approach that got this unfortunate crew. Everyone has done that. Maybe it was the corporate culture of Gulf Air that frowned upon pilots who performed go-arounds. A "go-around", or missed approach is a successful termination of an instrument approach.
Your "Disaster Breakdown" videos are very informative and educational. A pilot can never stop learning. Thank you for the good work!
Holy cow! At (16:52) everything you said about the character of the Fist Officer matches the traits of Omani people in general. I know that, I work with them. They are extremely reserved, shy and non confrontational. So when I heard what you said i screamed “that’s damn right”. Wow!!
Love how the song title shown in the middle of the video says "fun while it lasted"
I remember when this happened the whole island went to mourning. Our island is so small and most people are either related or friends with one another. May they all rest in peace.
Well Hearing the Pregnant Passenger and it's Fetus is not the 144th Passenger, but the actual 144th Passenger ( Hisham al-Husseini) is actually was suppose to go onto that doomed flight but Due to Immigration Reasons that he did not do Nessesary Documents to go to his job on Teaching Arabic in Bahrain He was not accepted for the flight. After He Heared the Plane Had Crashed Later on, His Body Felt Cold as He has seen the Doomed Passengers Passing him as they Boarded into the Doomed Flight. If you are Seeing this Hisham Al Husseini, I hope You are Doing Well Sir. I am also Giving My Heartfelt Condolences to the Families Who Lost their Loved Ones on the Unfortunate and Sad Accident on that day. May God Grant them Eternal Peace in Heaven. Aameen.
Great Video Chloe, Also Do Air Lanka Flight 512 Incident If you can.
Glaring example of complete lack of experience on both pilots. I have a ton of flight time in various large aircraft and my first instinct would have been to pull the thrust back when I saw the speed racing upwards. Regardless of whether or not I thought I was claiming or descending. And it’s really not that hard to develop good scans techniques to see the attitude of the aircraft, whether or not it’s climbing or descending, or if it’s in a turn. It’s a real shame that the flying public has to play the lottery when flying and have the sad unfortunate to be on a flight with such incompetence. Being stable on final approach is so important. No reason to stray outside of this or execute Blue Angels type flying to fix an approach gone bad.
In the 1970s Gulf Air offered free proving / training crew flights. Staff at my company thought it wiuld be fun and get freedrinks etc.
The following evening the sombre staff said it was terrifying and were very glad to get off - anywhere.
I flew back to london later that month, When the pilot spoke in upper class english, the woman next to me said thank god he's english, and told me of frightening experiences of flying with forign pilots..
I`m always interested in these Aviation Detective events (tho` a Groundhugger!) and enjoy different `takes` on such occurences, yours being amonGst the best. You got a new Patreon - Where`s the T SHIRTS!!!!!!!!
Even on the Enterprise (Star Trek) the captain listens to the crew.
It's interesting that we have a Captain with 1000 hours experience on the type who'd been promoted to Captain 2 months prior, paired with a First Officer with 600 hours of total flight time. I don't think it's too much of a stretch to say the crew scheduling system should have never allowed that.
It is long overdue the multiple individual instruments are intergrated into a pictorial image of the plane as per flight simulator software. The interfaces are in place it can even be done by Bluetooth style linkage.