Lady Copilot Really looking forward to working on the backdrop again. We’ve been out playing with trains and stuff like that but as the snowfalls, and it is for Hollyn darn it, we plan to hunker down and play with toy trains!
Dale, your skill as an instructor really shines in this segment, and I learned a lot today. I would love more of these teaching moments. Also, hello to Karyn.
We are planning to get back on the layout. Some big issues here. And we feel we need to get back on the small O scale railroad in honor of Al. We will explain a week from tomorrow on the show.
Great job. Over the past twenty odd years I have read articles in the modeling mags and your rendition of this subject was clear, and succinct. In large scale it is so much more critical. Continue this subject when y'all get to that point. Thanks Greg and Jeanne.
Thanks. I never believed in backdrops. Thought the models were the only thing. BUT I changed my mind a bit. Got my brain washed a few years back. And now that it's all dry and combed out I really love a good backdrop. I could be happy with a 2X8 shelf layout with a good backdrop, lighting and switching.
These are the EXACT issues facing the Shelf/Ceiling ON30 Puckety Chute Railroad where office wall space is at a premium. The timing of this helpful video could not be better! Thank you Toy Man TV.
mikethemoneymaker The mirror trick is a profound trick, and everyone should know about it because it can really make a small railroad see him much much larger
Model railroading is such a great hobby. You get to learn about carpentry, electricity, history, art, lighting, sound, crafts, photography and computers. Teaches problem solving and fosters creativity.
Toy Man Television, That's awesome! I'm a 3-rail O-scaler, and given the size issues of modeling in O-scale, these tips will help immensely, particularly the building flats. I believe they call that "selective compression." Once I get my Silverleaf Valley Railroad built I will definitely be using these tricks.
Perfect timing! I have all 4 sides of a 10 x 10 room benched with foam bed, and almost all the flextrack laid in HO, plenty of buildings to fill the space but literally nothing for the backdrops. Ziltch! More videos like this would be great, especially if you can time them right when I need it for my own projects.
Most people put off painting the backdrop until everything else is in place which is really putting the cart way out ahead of the horse. Works so much better if you get it in right away
I left space for background buildings and a 1/4" slot for foamcore backdrops within reach, because I couldn't stand not runnin' trains and - you know - screwing around!
Good timing guys! I've been concentrating on my Front Range mountain scenery for the last few weeks; but I will be getting to the background scenes at Highland Park, the main town and location of the helper engine facilities probably by late January. You've offered many great solutions to the "point of perspective" issues we all deal with. I have the challenge of disguising the fact that Highland Park is actually a loop "at the end of a grain producing valley" and that the East/West double tracking need to NOT be coming from the same area when they fold back on themselves. (It look better on paper.) The back drop there is my back wall and is painted to be going off into the distance north up to our "connection" with the UP at Cheyenne. Thanks for the great tips!
Carmilla Karnstein thanks!! We will show the mirror effect as soon as I can find a mirror. And build the ice house. And lay some track. And have Christmas. Geese. I’m getting tired just talking about it.
Looks really great! In the near future, when I get going on my railroad, this is advice I will really take well! This tuesday, the IPMS salt lake city christmas party is happening, love to see you down there!
Love it, Love it Love it This is one of my favor way of draw an object whether it's an apple of a building you can certainly use several technics to project your background. I was never one to just draw or plaint a flat structure why if one is going to do that they may as well throw in some stick people for authenticities sake. Again loved the video thumbs up and by the way, where did you get those shirts? They look like they'd make a great fashion statement.
Hi Dale! Thanks for taking us along for the ride into Garage Majal! I really like what you're doing with building reliefs on your layout. Very creative ideas! I'd like to share with you what a modeler friend of mine did to create the illusion of depth with building flats on his layout. The secret is in the 3-D illusion of his 2-D backdrop's receding street between the building flats. Check it out on his UA-cam channel: ua-cam.com/video/f8MrMbQKPWk/v-deo.html My UA-cam friend is an American expatriate who lives in Panama and models Green River, Wyoming in his N-Scale Union Pacific Evanston Subdivision. He creates some really amazing N scale scenes. -from Tom Pilling
You will need to find a front silvered mirror. They are easily scratched so you will have to be careful with it. A normal mirror will cause a gap between the real world and the mirrored one.
Ahh! Forced perspective! Fooling the eye to see differently! And it works!
Lady Copilot Really looking forward to working on the backdrop again. We’ve been out playing with trains and stuff like that but as the snowfalls, and it is for Hollyn darn it, we plan to hunker down and play with toy trains!
Dale, your skill as an instructor really shines in this segment, and I learned a lot today. I would love more of these teaching moments. Also, hello to Karyn.
Well planned flats, look outstanding and provide illusion of depth and perspective. Your on your way to making it work.
We are planning to get back on the layout. Some big issues here. And we feel we need to get back on the small O scale railroad in honor of Al. We will explain a week from tomorrow on the show.
Great job. Over the past twenty odd years I have read articles in the modeling mags and your rendition of this subject was clear, and succinct. In large scale it is so much more critical. Continue this subject when y'all get to that point. Thanks Greg and Jeanne.
Thanks. I never believed in backdrops. Thought the models were the only thing. BUT I changed my mind a bit. Got my brain washed a few years back. And now that it's all dry and combed out I really love a good backdrop. I could be happy with a 2X8 shelf layout with a good backdrop, lighting and switching.
These are the EXACT issues facing the Shelf/Ceiling ON30 Puckety Chute Railroad where office wall space is at a premium. The timing of this helpful video could not be better! Thank you Toy Man TV.
mikethemoneymaker The mirror trick is a profound trick, and everyone should know about it because it can really make a small railroad see him much much larger
Model railroading is such a great hobby. You get to learn about carpentry, electricity, history, art, lighting, sound, crafts, photography and computers. Teaches problem solving and fosters creativity.
I think all people need these kind of hands on projects, but mostly kids. They need to interact with real world problems in a fun and creative way.
Genius! This is a problem that's been plaguing me for a long time. I'll have to remember these tricks...
The mirror is great. HAd that on my old HO at the switching yard and no one ever noticed. They thought the yard ran all the way into the next room!!
Toy Man Television,
That's awesome! I'm a 3-rail O-scaler, and given the size issues of modeling in O-scale, these tips will help immensely, particularly the building flats. I believe they call that "selective compression." Once I get my Silverleaf Valley Railroad built I will definitely be using these tricks.
I think it can look great, AND it's super fun.
Forced perspective . . . the name of the game. Well done. I learned a lot. Thanks.
Fun doing thee things too.
Perfect timing! I have all 4 sides of a 10 x 10 room benched with foam bed, and almost all the flextrack laid in HO, plenty of buildings to fill the space but literally nothing for the backdrops. Ziltch! More videos like this would be great, especially if you can time them right when I need it for my own projects.
Most people put off painting the backdrop until everything else is in place which is really putting the cart way out ahead of the horse. Works so much better if you get it in right away
I left space for background buildings and a 1/4" slot for foamcore backdrops within reach, because I couldn't stand not runnin' trains and - you know - screwing around!
I have been watching your show since the start and I just absolutely love it! Keep up the great work, it’s an inspiration 2 me 😀
Zach B thanks!!! We here been off shooting stuff. So much to edit and put up now!!!!wow.
Good timing guys! I've been concentrating on my Front Range mountain scenery for the last few weeks; but I will be getting to the background scenes at Highland Park, the main town and location of the helper engine facilities probably by late January. You've offered many great solutions to the "point of perspective" issues we all deal with. I have the challenge of disguising the fact that Highland Park is actually a loop "at the end of a grain producing valley" and that the East/West double tracking need to NOT be coming from the same area when they fold back on themselves. (It look better on paper.) The back drop there is my back wall and is painted to be going off into the distance north up to our "connection" with the UP at Cheyenne. Thanks for the great tips!
Really want to get the mirror and ice house in!!
Goods Exemples!
Carmilla Karnstein thanks!! We will show the mirror effect as soon as I can find a mirror. And build the ice house. And lay some track. And have Christmas. Geese. I’m getting tired just talking about it.
Looks great, can’t wait to see it finished.
Us too!
Looks really great! In the near future, when I get going on my railroad, this is advice I will really take well! This tuesday, the IPMS salt lake city christmas party is happening, love to see you down there!
Totally ill... Caught a cold. Dang...
Good presentation
MOre to come. Hope to lay some track SOON.
Some people are really talented painters and when photographed people can't tell where the layout ends
I love to see that. I like the look of the photographic backdrops, but the painted ones are art!
Love it, Love it Love it This is one of my favor way of draw an object whether it's an apple of a building you can certainly use several technics to project your background. I was never one to just draw or plaint a flat structure why if one is going to do that they may as well throw in some stick people for authenticities sake. Again loved the video thumbs up and by the way, where did you get those shirts? They look like they'd make a great fashion statement.
Thanks!! This can really look great!!!! IF it's done right.
We collect t's and get some printed too. Mostly we buy shirts where ever we go.
this will be great
Getting back on this. Was working on it two days ago. Back to it today!!
Hi Dale! Thanks for taking us along for the ride into Garage Majal! I really like what you're doing with building reliefs on your layout. Very creative ideas!
I'd like to share with you what a modeler friend of mine did to create the illusion of depth with building flats on his layout. The secret is in the 3-D illusion of his 2-D backdrop's receding street between the building flats. Check it out on his UA-cam channel: ua-cam.com/video/f8MrMbQKPWk/v-deo.html
My UA-cam friend is an American expatriate who lives in Panama and models Green River, Wyoming in his N-Scale Union Pacific Evanston Subdivision. He creates some really amazing N scale scenes.
-from Tom Pilling
Looks cool
You will need to find a front silvered mirror. They are easily scratched so you will have to be careful with it.
A normal mirror will cause a gap between the real world and the mirrored one.
I priced that and CRAP. They sure look better, but one that big is bucks!! So I'm going to "hide" the edges. I hope.....