And when you're off-roading you're going into the unknown you don't know what you're getting yourself into until you're in it and you have to figure your way through it it's nothing to do with others perspective
I’ve dealt enough with icy roads upstate NY, nighttime subzero temps, then morning sun puts a thin layer of water over that ice on mountain roads, Foote Hollow Road in Stamford, NY, I’ve almost ended up in a ditch sometimes with my Grand Wagoneer, 4 Runner & Isuzu Trooper, before any crews drop sand and salt, and you have sliding that spiked tires will only handle. I’d say my ‘97 Trooper was the best of all handling. Got me outta thick and thin, nowadays I have a 2010 JK Rubicon and the Mrs a 2016 JKU 75th Anniversary Edition, no more Stamford house though.
Just found your channel, and admire how lucky you are to be so close to incredible places to wheel. I started a little channel here in the US (southeast) jeepNdirt and just getting started, but inspired by areas like yours. Great stuff, I'm subscribed for sure.
When you have your lockers off you'll actually have better left right traction. You won't slide sideways as much. When you have front and rear lockers on you've got more forward traction but that's at the expense of your lateral traction... That's how it works...
I’ve used mud tires in deep snow and they’re much better than all terrains. On ice I’ve never had a problem either. Snow tires would be nice to have but that means swapping out wheels for winter or spring. I’d personally just keep the muddies on year round.
I have no off-roading experience, other than on motorcycles. Interested in your thoughts on tire chains when it’s more about traction than clearance (mud or snow). I know no one locks hubs anymore, but does anyone still chain the front axle? Any thoughts on winter tires, like Blizzaks? Clearing deadfall with the winch was pretty cool. I have a lot to learn.
I'm not sure how well it works but my 2000 Land Rover Discovery has extremely strong traction control and I can't stand the idea of just having an open dip and a locker with no middle ground. My traction control response immediately and grabs really hard not just a little bit where it doesn't transfer enough power Toyota or Subaru but I'm not sure how the Jeep goes. I know the system in my truck was so good that a.m. General took it from Land Rover and used it in the later model of the Hummer along with the torsen gears. That's another good thing if you have a mechanical LSD with a 3:1 torque bias and you have Wheel in the it doesn't just grab like traction control it grabs and then it multiplies the torque from with the brakes are providing to send more power than an open differential would that's why I think having a rear locker and an Eaton true trac in front is the way to go unless you're doing literal rock climbing or if you don't have any form of traction control but if you do yeah and mechanical LSD with strong TC is outrageous and there's no feedback at all to the driver
Yes I have extremely aggressive traction control on my old Land Rover Discovery 2 and with mud terrains down at 20 lb and lots of articulation it is so seamless it's just a little slip and immediately grabbed hard. I think it's one of the things Land Rover actually does good outside of on reliable funkiness is there original traction control from the early 2000s. Now I like lockers no doubt but I like to just not be unlocked or locked but rather go 90% of places with my TC just grabbing immediately and then when I really need a locker I can use it. Because I see guys with lockers using them in places that I don't need to because of my TC. And I'm thinking to myself damn they go from open (when my tc has an issue) to locked and that's all. I would hate to live in the All or Nothing with no good middle ground. And the TC isn't just Middle Ground gosh it's like 80% or more but just seamlessly. I think mine works as good or better than Jeep and Toyota A-Trak even for a 2002 vehicle not to mention it's fun to actually drive something you never see out on trails in America as opposed to the UK or the rest of the world
It’s all about how much gas you give it on the turns. Too slow and you’ll hear binding and grinding which is ok. Give it the gas and spin the wheels a little bit and you’ll see how much easier and quieter it is when you turn. Just practice and you’ll get used to it. When you’re going straight though those lockers will wish you’d gotten them sooner. In a non locked vehicle you have one wheel drive in front and one wheel drive in back. With lockers you have all four wheels spinning. If it binds and grinds on turns just gas it a little. Works for me.
@@AdamSander-b3b Thanks. I pulled the trigger on the locker shortly after the post, and I loved it! I noticed the traction difference--night and day difference and the truck handled just fine.
Need to get you Anti-Rock off-road swaybar.
Chain up and skip the drama.
took the keystrokes right off my keyboard... haha
Chains would make quick and easy work of that trail for sure!
Chain up to get out. Not in unless getting in is required. Not fun.
Standing in a bad spot when winching in the tree
This video was cringe so many mistakes were made.
Life is about living and learning
And when you're off-roading you're going into the unknown you don't know what you're getting yourself into until you're in it and you have to figure your way through it it's nothing to do with others perspective
I’ve dealt enough with icy roads upstate NY, nighttime subzero temps, then morning sun puts a thin layer of water over that ice on mountain roads, Foote Hollow Road in Stamford, NY, I’ve almost ended up in a ditch sometimes with my Grand Wagoneer, 4 Runner & Isuzu Trooper, before any crews drop sand and salt, and you have sliding that spiked tires will only handle. I’d say my ‘97 Trooper was the best of all handling. Got me outta thick and thin, nowadays I have a 2010 JK Rubicon and the Mrs a 2016 JKU 75th Anniversary Edition, no more Stamford house though.
Just found your channel, and admire how lucky you are to be so close to incredible places to wheel. I started a little channel here in the US (southeast) jeepNdirt and just getting started, but inspired by areas like yours. Great stuff, I'm subscribed for sure.
Thanks I appreciate the support 🤘
When you have your lockers off you'll actually have better left right traction. You won't slide sideways as much. When you have front and rear lockers on you've got more forward traction but that's at the expense of your lateral traction... That's how it works...
Those mud terrain tires don't have the best grip for snow or ice in my experience. No sipes for the snow...or grip on ice.
I'm glad I have Nokian winter tyres with steel studs on my JK Rubicon JK 😊 Those mud tyres are useless on packed snow and Ice.
Ĺooks icey af
You have mud tires on , not snow tires . Snow tires made a world of difference.
Yup they do.
I’ve used mud tires in deep snow and they’re much better than all terrains. On ice I’ve never had a problem either. Snow tires would be nice to have but that means swapping out wheels for winter or spring. I’d personally just keep the muddies on year round.
I want this to be my only problem in life
Momentum is your friend….but if you want to make a video stopping is kind of a must. Decisions, decisions.
Awesome video, thx😊
I have no off-roading experience, other than on motorcycles. Interested in your thoughts on tire chains when it’s more about traction than clearance (mud or snow). I know no one locks hubs anymore, but does anyone still chain the front axle? Any thoughts on winter tires, like Blizzaks? Clearing deadfall with the winch was pretty cool. I have a lot to learn.
Tire chains work amazing just time consuming to put on. Blizzaks work good but I like bfg ko2s
Would love to see a BLD equipped Jeep (all 2018+) being used, my understanding is that it is close to having lockers.
I'm not sure how well it works but my 2000 Land Rover Discovery has extremely strong traction control and I can't stand the idea of just having an open dip and a locker with no middle ground. My traction control response immediately and grabs really hard not just a little bit where it doesn't transfer enough power Toyota or Subaru but I'm not sure how the Jeep goes. I know the system in my truck was so good that a.m. General took it from Land Rover and used it in the later model of the Hummer along with the torsen gears. That's another good thing if you have a mechanical LSD with a 3:1 torque bias and you have Wheel in the it doesn't just grab like traction control it grabs and then it multiplies the torque from with the brakes are providing to send more power than an open differential would that's why I think having a rear locker and an Eaton true trac in front is the way to go unless you're doing literal rock climbing or if you don't have any form of traction control but if you do yeah and mechanical LSD with strong TC is outrageous and there's no feedback at all to the driver
Are you guys airing down to 10 with or without beadlock wheels ? I'm trying to figure out how safely I can air down without beadlocks.
I've aired down to 10-11 psi and have had no issue but all depends on the conditions too
Yes I have extremely aggressive traction control on my old Land Rover Discovery 2 and with mud terrains down at 20 lb and lots of articulation it is so seamless it's just a little slip and immediately grabbed hard. I think it's one of the things Land Rover actually does good outside of on reliable funkiness is there original traction control from the early 2000s. Now I like lockers no doubt but I like to just not be unlocked or locked but rather go 90% of places with my TC just grabbing immediately and then when I really need a locker I can use it. Because I see guys with lockers using them in places that I don't need to because of my TC. And I'm thinking to myself damn they go from open (when my tc has an issue) to locked and that's all. I would hate to live in the All or Nothing with no good middle ground. And the TC isn't just Middle Ground gosh it's like 80% or more but just seamlessly. I think mine works as good or better than Jeep and Toyota A-Trak even for a 2002 vehicle not to mention it's fun to actually drive something you never see out on trails in America as opposed to the UK or the rest of the world
What tires were on the jk?
Cooper stt pro
@@extremeoverlandingI run the same tires in my JL, just ran Shenandoah, lots of deep snow and ice…no problem. My buddy got stuck in his HUMVEE!
So, I'm looking at getting lockers for my snow plow truck. Rear diff only. I'm worried about losing turning ability. Your thoughts?
It’s extremely hard to turn with a front locker but if u get an air or electric locker it is very easy to turn on and of quickly.
Thanks. I'm looking for only rear diff solutions. Does a rear diff locker affect turning?
@@mymorristribe it does a bit if u go with an auto locker. It can be pretty loud and a locker will wear tires faster
It’s all about how much gas you give it on the turns. Too slow and you’ll hear binding and grinding which is ok. Give it the gas and spin the wheels a little bit and you’ll see how much easier and quieter it is when you turn. Just practice and you’ll get used to it. When you’re going straight though those lockers will wish you’d gotten them sooner. In a non locked vehicle you have one wheel drive in front and one wheel drive in back. With lockers you have all four wheels spinning. If it binds and grinds on turns just gas it a little. Works for me.
@@AdamSander-b3b Thanks. I pulled the trigger on the locker shortly after the post, and I loved it! I noticed the traction difference--night and day difference and the truck handled just fine.
Bring a bag of sand or 2 next time.
Or maybe some snow chains ☺
Stop stopping :)
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Woops
SMH sell your rubicon to someone who knows how to drive it.
Ok thank god u are hear to help me I feel blessed
Relax getting stuck and running into trouble is part of the fun