How Your First Mystical Experience Will Feel
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- Опубліковано 6 вер 2024
- Describing how to feels to have a mystical experience for the first time. Before having the experience, awakening and spirituality doesn't truly make sense to you.
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Going to need a bigger boat. Lol. That is how it feels. Imagine seeing a dragon for the first time. And just telling yourself holy s*** that thing actually exists? The stories don't have as much weight until you're actually there.
That's awesome man. I cry too. A lot. Coming from a person that never cried in 40 years.
"It wasn't just talk" nice
Mystical experiences are beside the point and have nothing to do with enlightenment or nonduality. Nonduality is already the case and not some new experience. Enlightenment is not an experience, but a non-conceptual, intuitive insight. It is a mistake to make a big deal of any mystical or spiritual experience that comes and goes. The point is to realize that which does not come or go.
I would absolutely disagree with this statement.
How do you come to that conclusion?
Understood and true. But a Journey through the astral realm changes everything because its no longer philosophy.
What if sift and accepting certain insight?
@@darrylbossier8971 Yes. Aka ego death.
Can you please recommend some books for beginners on non duality
Best leo ❤
I wish I could stay in the mystical state and become enlighten
Leo, hello. about reality is infinite, is true - a dreamer's dream she never dies!
Great clip.
is this only with psychedelics possible?
Certainly not, what do you think monks are pursuing?
Yeah.
The question is,
why am I not interested in
that.
(I should be, shouldn't I ?)
Because you have no idea just how amazing it is, or you can’t wrap your head around it enough to ignite the desire to want to experience it
Awesome
but why is it an Ox tho?!
“In search of the missing ox”
What’s an example of a mystical experience ?
It can be induced in many ways. Most reliably through psychedelic drugs. It's inherently ineffable and impossible to put into words. The closest we do is metaphor and analogy.
Heads and tails are opposites, but exist as part of the same coin
Light and dark are complete opposites, yet exist only in relation to each other. The are the same thing, just seen from a different perspective
Hot and cold are opposites, infinite heat and atomic vibration is the same as absolute 0K and no atomic vibration. Infinite hot and cold are the same thing
Up and down are opposites, but only exist in relationship to each other. Up exists only as the opposite of down, yet are the same thing "movement"
Day is nothing but the opposite of night. If it was "always day" we'd be unable to recognise it or name it because there is nothing to compare it to. It would just "be"
Black and white are opposites, like light and dark, yet only exist in relation to each other. From white/light, we get all colour/all vision and consious perception. From black/dark we get all that can't be seen/imagination, abstraction, and the unconscious. Yet exist together as aspects of a greater whole.
The mystical experience is when you stop seeing reality as opposites and distinctions, but you literally see them as the singular One they came from.
It's to realise all language is just a sequence of distinctions that layer together to reveal a singular meaning. Every word we "say" in a sentence, isn't like stacking bricks to build a wall, that is our message. Every word we say in a sentence is like a chisel breaking off stone to reveal the sculpture that was already there.
It's when you realise that all of reality exists fundamentally and only in relationship to a subject perceiving it. Life, death, something, nothing, are all the same. You are the everything, and the nothing, as an eternal being looking back at itself through the subject/object split.
The mystical experience is to know, understand, see, and become the "One" all at once. Akin to the flow state, where you seem to lose yourself in what your doing and time seems to vanish. Except it's all encompassing.
Those who talk don't know it. Those who know it don't talk.
Like I said, you can't describe it, only beat around the bush with metaphor and story
xoxox
Nice timing lol
Got a glimpse recently too :)
Respectfully, there should be a distinction if this was with a psychedelic or not
Why?
@@torolvro59because its two different processes trying to get a natural awakening compared to a phycadelic awakening . you need to go through different steps . i know he advocated phycadelics in the past . i just want to know wich ones are natural and not to tailor the steps i take .
@@ineffableepochsonder5360 Makes sense. However, i think its a good thing to use as introduction or extra insight. As all other aspects of life, we humans tend to use tools to make any experience easier and better. This I believe is the case for spirituality also. But then again, my beliefs.
@@torolvro59 yeah I believe also that psychedelics are very very useful. Turns 10 year’s of work into 12 hours and you learn a lot in that short time . Plus deeper insights .
@@ineffableepochsonder5360 Yea! Everything in moderation though, and one really has to incorporate the wisdom one receives, for unearned wisdom is a dangerous thing.
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What do you mean by ox
Hell from anyone is welcome ofc
Meant to say help
The “Ox” is just used as a metaphor for a realization that hits on such a level your paradigm shifts.
Check out his video "The 10 Ox-herding Pictures"