Marvel's Civil War II Vol 1: Spider-Man Kills Captain America? | Comics Explained
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"Civil War II" is a comic book crossover storyline published by Marvel Comics that debuted in June 2016.
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Team Captain America for Civil War 1
Team Iron Man for Civil War 2
Rejoy Panakkal lkr so true 😁😁
Angga Ryuuzaki - well said, oh Captain my Captain.
Team cap
same here
same
well at least civil war 2 aka everybody hates carol danvers finally end, now i am waiting for marvel rebirth
Fer Zum if only.
Fer Zum at this point I'm begging for a reboot of sorts from marvel. Honestly, 90% of their titles are garbage now. I used to love nearly all their stuff and be a huge fanboy, but now i favour DC comics far more. I want to read about classic characters, like Tony Stark, not the two new iron man/woman. I understand they introduce these new characters which is great but don't get rid of classic characters or just change them up completely like Peter Parker who now is more of a tony stark character with his own company. And why on gods earth did the merge all the universes in secret wars?! For example, Miles being THE spiderman in his own universe is far better than having Peter, miles, gwen as well as many others all spiderman on one universe. Vent over.
So replace characters like how Wally West became the flash? Or Dick Grayson became Batman?
But yeah marvel is going through a "phase"
Have they learned nothing from new 52? I would think a company in the same business would learn from another's mistakes not imitate them.
People liked the new fifty two, it just needed time to develop.
I want to see Banner come back and just beat the shit out of Beast and Carol Danvers
The fact they just killed him off and replacement him with a sorry ass excuse of a hulk, made things worse
F00KIN N00TIN would love that
Seriously. Replying to both your and and F00KIN N00TIN's comments. First of all, how in the fuck are they gonna kill Bruce Banner, AKA the Hulk, with a damn arrow? I know he wasn't supposed to be able to turn into Hulk at the time, but hell, he was halfway through getting his transformation back again. In reality, he was only killed off because, just like the last Civil War, Marvel didn't want the outcome to be that whichever team he was on won. In ANY other storyline, he would have just overridden the no-transformation thing and then when attention feel back on him, it would show his eyes glowing neon green, then he would say some line,turn into Hulk and start beating whoever shot or attacked him to a pulp. I mean, realistically, Banner would never just die from an arrow. The just had him die for the purposes of the story. They missed a great opportunity, too. They could have him get pretty pissed and go off against Blue Marvel, like how he fought Sentry in WWH after the original Civil War. Blue Marvel would be a great opponent for him too, because at first he could be shown being beaten half to death by Blue, who is muchhh more powerful and strong than a baseline Hulk, and then he could be shown getting really angry and laying Blue out.
Grim Lock Exactly it's like how are you going to allow someone as powerful as Blue Marvel to be on one side without having someone to match him on the other? Imagine the Hulk just running through one team and they all just struggle to stop him as well. The fucking carnage that every Hulk fan loves but no they decide to make the Hulk a fuckboi like amadeus cho
Seriously! I mean, you saw what happened to Luke Cage and Nova. Why would they even have Luke go up against Blue? Its just stupid! Blue Marvel is basically a black, slightly less powerful Sentry, depending on who you ask. And they are going to put him against a character that can't even stand up to a freshly turned Hulk? Just bad writing. I do think what they did, showing Nova blast him and him not be affected, was a good way to show his power level to readers who don't know much about him though. But really, having BM on one side and having no good antithesis to really oppose him on the other side was just bad writing. I mean, BM already isn't that well known generally, why hurt him even more by having him in a crappy, poorly matched, barely-worth-penciling-in fight where basically all he does is knock the shit out of Luke Cage and then get blasted, and subsequently chase Nova?
it's minority report again but with a superhero twist.the thing is once you become aware of your future its probability of still occurring drops dramatically. punishment should come after the crime not before
Balder 8472 Exactly! Ullesys prediction actually led to Beast invading Banner's privacy, which led to him almost hulking out in the first place.
Civil War 2 was trash, it was like DC Convergence but without the warm fuzzy feeling of nostalgia.
Let's be honest with ourselves: Civil War 1 wasn't a good comic either. It was great in concept, but its overall execution left something to be desired.
Nathan Lemuel it was way better than this shit.
Scuffling Boogaloo That goes without saying. Civil War II just reeks of "cheap-ass cash grab".
I have to disagree. I loved the first Civil War story. Primarily because the stakes felt really and the conflict was genuine. My only problem is that they made Iron Man a little too aggressive. But i'm curious, what exactly didn't you like about the story ?
Hannibal Rasberry I never really felt torn between choosing sides in the first (or second) Civil War event (Tony Stark being a mega-asshole REALLY didn't help). All the civilians in the story felt unbelievably ungrateful to all the heroes in the story out of nowhere (despite said heroes saving their sorry hides time and time again for DECADES from multiple supervillains big and small, cataclysmic events and the like). And the ending was very anti-climatic. That ending was no bueno. This story left with most people HATING Tony Stark WITH A PASSION (so much so that Marvel had to do a "soft reboot" of sorts with his character by the time the Siege event was occurring), and it should not have been that way. This story made it very apparent that the people siding with the "Pro-Registration" were in the "wrong", while the "Anti-Registration" people were in the "right", which also should not have been that way. Readers should have felt torn between which sides that they should align with like a parent choosing their favourite child. I can say that Captain America Civil War used this concept a little better, but there are still some things that I would have tweaked that I believe would have truly felt like the shit was TRULY hitting the fan and would keep the audience captivated from start to finish.
Rob. Keep explaining stuff. You're amazing at it.
GamingSpiser _ I want him to explain all the things.
+William do you mean like in comics? Because I've always though he could do some Morgan freeman type shit and explain the origin on the universe and stuff
He could probably explain the whole universe, multiverse, infinity, eternity, uh. Yeah everything.
#RobExplainsEverything
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Did I miss it or did Spider-Man have nothing to do with cap America in this vid?
The title is about Ulysses' vision at the very end
loved the dog interruption!!
really didn't like this story, but i had to finish it. what sucks though is that it got pushed back so much that everyone knew what was going to happen before it ended.
Ugh civil war 2 is the worst... All new all not different marvel sucks in general
Marvel needs it´s own Rebirth-event
Saken Leon Bendis and Quesada killed comics for me. Quit reading years ago basically because what they did to Marvel just felt incoherent and mean spirited, and it just sucked all the joy out of it for me. Every time I get curious, and I see anything about what they've done since, I'm glad I left.
I watched the video through, but basically it sounds like they just undermined the whole modern history of Captain America to reinforce their own cracked story in CW 1, and did indeed have Tony do a 180 turn. I don't think that much is out of character though (for Iron Man). He's always trusted himself and no one else, basically, so both Civil War roles make sense. He's more a narcissist than a futurist. But the Steve Rogers thing turns my stomach a little bit even after all these years. I quit comics basically the moment Bendis took over X-Men, whatever year that was. I've got that first issue, and I haven't ever read the books I bought that week, so it's been a while.
Better off.
Civil War II is lazy, pandering dogshit. The writers pretty much admitted that the only reason this exists is to promote the Civil War movie.
I have to agree man all new marvel just sucks balls i might be a little bias (Banner/Hulk Fanboi) but yeah... they're taking everyone's favorite and beloved characters and basically raping your childhood memories and making you watch while their doing it
ANAD Marvel actually has a lot of pretty cool stories, new characters actually moving things forward and not the staggering repetition / status quo maintainence that usually haunts comics... but yes, civil war 2 interrupted a lot of those stories for a conflict that relies on so many people acting out of character and handling situations in an unbelievably awful way that it feels like a slap in the face. But honestly, meh, it's over, and now ANAD Marvel can go back to being entertaining again. Yay.
Can we get Bendis to stop writing crossovers or teams? He's a okay writer, but things that require continuity and diverse character voices isn't really his thing.
There was absolutely no mention of any interaction between Captain America and Spider-Man in this video
20:51 bro, pay attention dummy
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Not sure if you're joking or not, but Rob mentioned Captain America and he mentioned Spider-man separately. There was no mention of anything about them together. The title of the video is "Spider-Man kills Captain America" but there's no mention of that at all.
@@Geebees93 It's the vision that Ulysses has at the end. Miles was supposed to kill Captain America
Rob I would like to see the Hulk frolicking in a field of flowers
Trey Rachel he's kind of done that as childlike Savage Hulk
What always strikes me in these confrontations is none of the superheroes never approach it calmly. They never approach it in a non-threatening, explanatory way. What would have happened with Banner if Danvers and Stark came in and said we have some info we need to share with you. We are afraid, they would say, and we need your help to reassure us. Now granted when confronting Thanos little short of tactical nukes is SOP, but in talking to Ulysses stay calm and keep it calm. In emergency situations, you want everyone staying focused but calm. Doctors and nurses NEVER run in the ER; too much potential for further injury or mayhem. They walk....with purpose. When talking to suicidal people, you are calm and even toned. That's what the "right stuff" is with airline pilots, don't panic and solve the problem.....as many times as it takes.
Civil war 1 : captain america
Civil war 2 : iron man
CW2 should've been about the Villains this time splitting forces and fighting each other....that would have been different.
This all reminds me of Ben Affleck's line in BvS, "If there's even a 1% chance he's a threat, then we have to take it as an absolute certainty!"
So did no one care that Bruce Banner was killed ? It seems like it was just pushed aside after they told she hulk he was killed.
well at least they hopefully marvel learns not to shoe-in a event just because of a movie
fernando wetherbee the idea of having a minority report situation kicked off in marvel is a good idea but Bendis wasn't the right one clearly from how he'd approached this
Ike of Pyke ya it could have been written better for sure
Minority report is actually a good idea but yea it doesn't seem well executed.
but at least Dr Doom is Iron man and that seems interesting
You should make a verses series were you give your opinion on who would win in a fight between two evenly match characters
wow, it feels like "all new all different marvel" is the marvel equivalent to "DC's new 52": the events suck big time, some solo books are fine, and some sagas work (the clone saga 2 is actually decent and i'm enjoying the new daredevil run)... but it's mostly hated.
Yeah, i think is the best way to put it.
oh hey man. ^^
Civil War 1 posed a good moral vs logic dilemma, and I respect both sides. Personally I was team Cap. Just like the mutant registration act, many super powered people in Marvel didn't ask for their powers, and many become heroes at their own peril. Basically it was asking people to register to live because they were born a certain way, or accidentally gained powers. The problem is Marvel has some great hackers. How long until a LMD sneaks into SHIELD, and sells the list of super hero identities to the highest bidder.
When that happens it's not just the hero, but their lover, or family at risk. They wear masks for a reason. I get the argument that it's dangerous to let a guy with explosion powers walk around. It also ties into the argument here. Do you force people to put themselves potentially in harms way because they can do something, even though they may choose not to use their powers. Do you potentially out them to fear, and ridicule of the populace, or risk of kidnap or death from Hydra wanting to brainwash them into Hydra agents. Then of course if you say no you're imprisoned, like a superhero draft.
My solution would be to register, and imprison actual criminals as they commit crimes. Offer benefits to registration, like financial support, or legal help if something goes wrong, but make it optional. Instead Stark went straight, sign up or we beat you down then sign you up regardless.
Ahh yes, or as I call it, Marvel: Minority Report.
... are we all going to ignore that concrete fact that robs dog was dreaming???... I think we need to talk about this.
Does Minority Report not exist in the Marvel Universe? You'd think at least one of them would have watched it.
19:45 if you’re forcing people to register based on the actions of others, you’re punishing them for crimes they have not committed, the principles of Cara danvers and tony stark are the same: restrict individuals freedoms for the greater good. They’re both wrong, and neither of them have merit if you value the basic principle of freedom being the most important value.
5 am and it's pitch black when I'm watching this, and that dog cut in scared the hell out of me.
the dog was the best part
always hated MS. marvel civil war 2 just solidified it
New Year's Eve drinking game: drink every time Rob says the word "essentially." Time to get crunk.
Also love you and the content you put out don't tell any of the other comic creators out there, because we aren't supposed to pick favorites, but you're my favorite
This is one of the best stories in the marvel comics right now!! ANAD is proving to be great!! It's amazing!!
Abhijnaan Muppana that's the first time I have ever heard anyone praise Shitty War 2
Messiah Bardock Atleast the concept and the beginning of the story is good!!
thank you so much for having both episodes out today
Your dog killed me bruh🤣🤣🤣
*intense tension on story*
*intense music*
*Barking dog in the background*
I lost it
"Kentucky sucks in the winter time" he says, after I just come in -45F up here in Canada, haha.
Keep your vitamin D up during the winter Rob. It's not as sunny as usual and if you don't get outside a lot it can be an issue.
I feel like deadpool should be the ending of one of these huge cross overs... like deadpool goes on a monologue to all the super heros telling them don't they realize the irony of what their doing and the parts each one of them is playing really fourth wallish.
Again, you make this sound a lot better than it probably is.
its weird. in civil war I was on cap side. now on civil war 2 I'm on iron man side
I love the look on Old Man Logan's face at the 17:43 mark. He looks shocked and concerned on the outside, but deep down he's like "Fuck Banner. Fuck Hulk. and props to my boy Hawkeye"
MY NAME IS STEVE , TIME TO PLAY THE POWERBALL !!!
All arrows point to... hahaha. good one Rob!
lol Rob. "old man logan creepin on jean is weird... its weird"
Hey Rob, what if you made some videos explaining why characters are so popular and stuff? During your Superman videos you explain how he's so great because he's a symbol for hope, he's the perfect hero, he was essentially the first superhero, all that stuff. Could you do videos just focusing on the character and their origins, motivations, and things like that that are essential to the character?
lol i now have an image of the Hulk rolling around playing with baby animals in a field full of daisies. I knew I should have went out for NYE.
Damn it rob my name is steve. Get out of my head!!!!!!
22:53 surprise DOOOOOOG.
hello there rob. maybe you could do a video comparing the xmen and avengers jets? I'm curious to know which one has better technology. weapons defensive systems etc.
Andy Skied you again XD
Me again lol. I've been asking the same question every day now for a couple months...
Andy Skied i have no evidence of this, but im guessing the avengers jets, Beast on the X-men, is studies biological science i believe, Iron Man studies biomechanics and makes military weapons and tech, and Hank Pym, Peter Parker, Black Panther have been on the team before they should have been able to help out Tony with that stuff, then theres forge on the xmen team too, idk but id say Avengers
***** but wouldnt forge copy that?
Well if forge never got to see it could he still copy it?
Rob i live in Florida it 80 degrees today ! ^.^
Black Koshinomi so do I it's hot lol
Black Koshinomi I wish it was 80 in AZ it's like 50 witch is waaaay too cold for a dessert person like me
at 15:07 when you said "she's going off the belief" I just started thinking Bo Dallas
forreal homie it does suck in the winter been huge listener of ur channel fun tid bit to find ya live in same state
lol when the dog start barking
What about Moon Girl? :D She's smart 12:00 lol man I can't wait to see what they do with her when she's older.
Right? I hope they don’t waste her as a character but luckily she is getting her own show
haha that dog killed me xD
Rob, i was driving through Louisville Monday around 1am. it felt like i was in silent Hill. fog was so thick, i couldn't see 5ft infront of me. those highways are crazy intricate
Man Rob, you don't need the clickbait titles! We're watching regardless! Just write what you need to write and make the videos you need!
not even 20 seconds into the video and he chuckles (takes a hit) man this guy is positive af
That dog, scared the crap out of me
Awesome as always..my golden retriever sounds the same when she dreams lol
Finished reading this 8 part series of civil war 2, and imo it sucks. Feels like it's setting up another major event next year by getting rid of 2 major heroes
23:00 Lmaoooo the dog
Winter in Kentucky!!?? Haha... bro I live in Buffalo, NY!! Thanks for all u do Rob!! You’re the man!!
When reading this America taking a chair to Carol's face was the greatest moment in the event.
west ky here.. not too bad here but i hate the winter too bro.. great work i love your vids
Come to FL I started to buy comic books because of your channel & Comicstorian 😁
I love your comment about stark and all your moral arguments in general Rob. #TeamStark thank you for continuing to create awesome content
"his mind is like a closed system" like a MacBook? that killed me Wahahahaha
You should try Michigan in the winter. Nice crisp, clean and cold air. Good for the lungs and toughen you up.
Love your videos rob. Have you ever thought about doing the reign of supermen story line.
The dog moment scared the shit outta me
this was an excellent video and the artwork in the comic is awesome
Yoooo I didn’t know you was in Kentucky!! I’m in Louisville..it does suck in the winter lmao
I also live in Kentucky and I was in Florida last week, it was so nice!
I find the old man logan/jean grey thing also weird...they did what they always do but made him older & her younger hahaha
This event will now be known as Carol is a dense leader that never listens to reason.
Carol denvers is a triggered feminist
These videos are great!
Lol@ the creepy Old Man Logan comment. I totally agree, but I can understand his uber-creepin'. She was the love of his life and he was deeestroyed when she died. This is basically the cornerstone of his heart being dangled before him. It's just too bad all he has may be some kind of GILF status ;)
5:01 "..Ulysses, a mutant who can see into the future..."
Rob you're not helping with convincing me Marvel isn't trying to replace the X-men ;)
I see the Hawkeye verdict not an issue of euthanasia, but a microcosm of the entire story's issue. Its not a matter of whether it was the right action, that's a given, but was it the right time? The question is, Is Preemptive right action without being necessarily sure of whether it was the right timing as well as whether a loss of life is a justifiable casualty to prevent, a possibility.
If the timing was wrong, then perhaps the action is wrong.
That would mean both must be right for one to be right. In the story the law affirmed Danver's mentality by freeing Hawkeye.
the Law in the story made the statement that an intent to do good with a good reason to believe the action is highly likely to be timely, weighed against the possible alternative, makes the act ok regardless the expense or collateral damage.
That's deep.
I don't know what I prefer, reading comics or watching them get explained on ComicsExplained
You don't need to read Civil War 2 to hate Captain Marvel
yo my name is steve rob! and i am watching hahaha (rob laugh)
Don't eel too bad about Kentucky in the winter sucking: we feel your pain down in Tennessee, too.
AT 14:00 We see what Tony stark meant when he said Hulk and Black Widow play Hide the Zucchini...Its... just...gone
the main problem with the inhumans i think is their name to me its kind of a meh name considering what they are i mean the x men are popular because x men just sounds cool. saying the inhumans sounds weird to me. i mean they couldve called them something like evolution or the resurgence or the anomilies or the awakened.
That canine interruption tho !
It seems like the writers were watching Minority Report when they wrote this. I sided with Captain America in the first civil war.
what this does,what this does,what this does
I always saw Stark as the bad guy in OG civil war
The big problem imo for Tony's view for civil war 1 was that super heroes have to serve the government, its been proven over and over in comics and real life that you cant trust the government from shadow orgs, back room dealings, all it would take is a mad man or new political party to gain power, then you would have all the super heroes rounding up the jews.
clever thing that tony should have noticed and pointed out is that that hulk form was framed in such a way that it would be unclear if it was banner hulk or choe hulk
Completely off topic subject here... but Rob, would you mind delving into some of IDW's publications? I personally love Transformers and Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles, but all I really want to hear you talk about is the Transformers. The comics are exceptional and I think fans would find them interesting. Thanks!
Rob's voice is so soothing, I can't even lie.
Great video!
But it seems like once again Marvel is taking an interesting moral question and having one side slide into evil because all these hero stories winds up being good vs evil. You can't have Danvers say "If't is Galactus, we need to be aware of anything above 10% because of his threat level. If it's a Hydra spy it's 95%." or whatever. The idea that there can be different margins of error depending on the circumstances never comes up. We saw this in the first Civil War too. Yes, superheroes should be licenced and trained like doctors and police officers but Stark went way too far.
Yea, Marvel likes to hit us with a moral compass, but I understood with the 1st Civil War, it's just with this one that the reasoning Carol had annoyed the hell outta me.
Aww cute dog!
Hey Rob! Love your channel, hope you get over the cold quickly. I'd love it if you covered more spiderman material! I just finished reading superior spiderman and its easily one of the best spiderman stories ive read.
this is Marvel's attempt at Minority Report movie, with a twist.
you said spoods would kill captain.
y u didnt add that part in.
Michael Angel See the Question Mark It's a question not a statement.
Go to school Your grammar is atrocious
whitepaws60 "Do you see the question mark? It's a question, not a statement. Go back to school, your grammar is atrocious." :*
Sleepy Slakoth Yeah good job quoting my entire comment. Good job kiddo keep it up
whitepaws60 You can't try school someone's grammar and then get annoyed when someone does it too you, mang.
Sleepy Slakoth Did you even read his comment before coming to the defence of a complete moron?