Venom to Spidey: Ayo whats good shitass u ready to throw down again or raincheck? Venom to The Avengers: *_Your bones will make fine toothpicks to pluck your organs from my teeth._*
Y’all know Thor could unleash an eletric discharge and poof no more venom, hulk gamma’s body would fry him on the spot if he took over and tony have a whole freaking military base for a house if he got killed here defenses system would have activated, and poof no more venom. Sooooooo yeah, scriptwriter wins not venom.
It felt like these trained heroes with nerves of steel were made dumb by the writer. Natasha losing her cool might've been a hint at the symbiote, but hawkeye and banner have watched her do all sorts of things that require a stone cold poker face over the years and they didn't question why she flipped out. hawkeye threatening hulk when the way the others were murdered was obviously not his m.o. felt dumb too. the bodies even looked like they were dissolved, obviously not how hulk hands work. I like the concept of a super hero murder mystery tho.
You gotta take into consideration that these heroes are some of the toughest in the world. Someone, or _something,_ is killing them left to right, no signs of a struggle, they clearly have no reference to what could have caused this. All they know is that they’re in dangerous and uncharted territory. Plus they lost a close friend. Fear of danger, fear of the unknown, and the anxiety of someone close to them being sloppy butchered can definitely cause a freak out.
@@azureheart2846 They've all been in enough situations that they should understand that when you're scared is the perfect time to slow down and recollect everything you've seen so far imo. I get what you mean thoough.
Plus this is a Venom that nobody knew. Nobody knew what a symbiote even was yet because he JUST arrived, nobody would know sound waves or fire would be its weakness.
You must not be a huge venom fan then because current venom right before the symbiote war arc was stronger than both odinforce thor and the hulk. And it wasn't even close.
@DaichiOkami are you talking about from the king in black comics? What powers does he have that could kill hulk or thor? I haven't read the comics and I watched 1 youtube video so I really don't know
Theres is literally nothing venom could do to the Hulk that he couldn't heal from. Even if he reduced him to liquid. The Hulk rejected the spikes from the planet hulk series, he would eventually spit out venom. But its a good story anyway, channels the Thing
Don't know what to call it but it's bad. Superhero comics have this issue of disbelief due to retcons. They can be as powerful or as weak as the writer wants them to be.
@@xavierjones9932when your scared your immune system kicks it up 2 gears pumping blood faster, warmer and adrenaline, with this he would of instantly rejected venom, especially with all that gamma pumped in him (which is LITERALLY used to kill cells which venom is a clump of)
I think it would be a mistake if the symbiote merged with the hulk there is a chance that the gamu radiation in the hulk might make him incompatible but because the hulk can regenerate when the symbiote left him hulk would say hulk smash and that would be the end of the symbiote 🤔
Sorry but if I'm not mistaken didn't venom bond with hulk in the king in black? The both was fine so... How do y'all believe that hulks gama or roars would affect venom? Not getting on y'all just asking a harmless question?
@@blain61The second a symbiote bonds to a host, it is immune to the host powers. Once it leaves, it is less so, but still does keep some, relative to how long it was with the host.
DC/Marvel writers going five seconds without making a weird fetish story about their favorite character murdering their comic verse challenge. Difficulty Rating: Impossible.
Ppl forget the symbiote copies its hosts DNA to become compatible or not, but Hulk’s genes is so powerful it’ll produce antibodies strong enough to constantly battle venom unless they willingly became one.
I always felt like Venom would struggle with controlling Hulk due to all duel personalities. Bruce would be used to sharing the body with a dominant personality, and Hulk would probably start thrashing himself around to hurt the symbiote.
Aight i like to see vemon as the monster it could be, but theres no way thor (even drunk) wouldn't just call thunders on himself the moment a crazy creature or a possessed natasha jump on him
@@SuperDababy2I love that the hulk who's triggered by rage is just at the end super scared like how could banner even transform if he's not angry not to mention when he thinks Thor killed Tony he's smashing the place apart but when he sees black widow kill Hawkeye he's a lost puppy 💀
Ima be real, venom in his pure symbiote form is THE thing that would get to thor. I doubt it would, or could, but i especially doubt it would kill him. Thor goes through an insecurity phase three times a year and loses his hammer and has to reinforce himself over and over again because it's basically in his job description to fight Lovecraftian horrors on the daily. He'd honestly probably love to have a symbiote of his own that eats away his fears and lets him sink into his own selfasuring sense of pride
If i were the writer of this mini story, I'd expand on how the symbiote would study the Avengers while giving them a wild goose hunt. Figuring out weaknesses. Especially for thor. He could of written that the symbiote waited for thor in a drink and controlled him through his thunder rage form? I really dont like how many writers just dont give a proper explanation on why it would defeat thor. It can be done but that is lazy, at least just say thor was gone and returned to find hulk as a symbiote beast and they throwdown
Venom with Spider-Man: Yooo waddup spidey! Ready to throw hands like every tuesday? Venom with the avengers: Look what they need to mimic a fraction of our power, eddie.
Absolutely not, story had me up until that point. I hate it when writers have Thor easily defeated by an opponent who’s never been able to hurt him, they wouldn’t dare do that to Superman smh.
This is a cool What If story. Guess I gotta google the description of this comic so I can get the name. For those who wanna buy this, It's called: Venomverse Reborn.
One take on what it would be like for Venom trying to take over the Hulk, is that inside Banner's head, Venom would be outnumbered at least 3 to 1, with Bruce Banner, Savage Hulk, and Joe Fixit, against him. I understand World Breaker and Professor Hulk are missing, and Immortal Hulk is dead. I don't know if Titan is it's own personality yet either. At any rate, there are probably too many minds inside Banner's head for Venom to force it's way into control.
I was liking the homage to The Thing (one of few movies that still scares me) until Thor was killed lol, writers who write him as easily defeated clearly don’t like him. They wouldn’t dare write off Superman or even fucking Batman as easily killed.
I mean they have but to be fair it's generally a huge affair not something that would happen off screen. Batman getting his head and spinal cord ripped out of his body to be forced to watch Gotham get burned down and rebuild just to be killed by the next Batman when they try to save Bruce is crazy.
Theres no way venom would bring down iron man or thor without taking down half the building. Iron mans defenses would detect and try to purge the symbiote, jarvis would send an alert, and thors lighting would mess him up....i get the concept, but nah.....
Ok so a few things after reading the comments. People seem to be thinking these are main universe avengers. They aren't. We don't know their power range, how experienced they are as the avengers, nothing. This is an alternate universe which Eddie literally says at the end of the comic. Venom can very easily 100% do this to people even powerful ones so long as they are organic in nature, because the symbiote quite literally feeds off organic matter and a specific chemical which is found in organs, brains, and chocolate. People forget that symbiotes can break down organic matter either completely bypassing their durability in some cases or just needing to weaken them a bit like in prototype, which is what inspired prototypes entire thing. Symbiotes are stupidly strong even weak ones because they are pretty much unkillable and this is right after venom comes to earth no one knows what it is or it's weakness. Hence hulks very unusual fear, he doesn't know what it is and has only seen it kill his friends. That would be terrifying to a creature that has the mind of a child in the early days of the hulk.
@haylongwang3002 so they changed what the symbiotes feeds on since the original explanation back around when venom first became the lethal protector? It's like a staple of his character. And we've seen characters get eaten by symbiotes when they are much stronger than the symbiote. Comics are inconsistent and new things are constantly introduced. A big part of venoms character was overcoming his bloodlust and desire for brains partly thanks to chocolate and mostly thanks to actual character development.
Too strong willed. His consciousness was able to fight back for control against the symbiote. So he killed him and took over Natasha, who we know has been through some serious brain washing. It was harder for her to fight back because Venom could go deeper into her dark psyche and she probably never knew she was asleep until it was too late. By then Iron man and Thor were already dead.
If venom were to take over hulk it would be a big problem but in the end venom won't be able to hold him forever considering he has many allies that will already know of venoms weaknesses
I like this story cause it makes you remember just how terrifying of a creature venom really is, Spider-Man is only able to joke because he can somewhat handle him and their complicated history makes the fights more about making Peter suffer than actually killing and devouring him
This multivariant of Venom literally turnt the whole lobby into an Among us whodoneit caboodle, and aside from that uncharacteristic Captain America peering into an alien hole, this shit was G A S, VENOMMMMMMM, VRR VR VRRRUUUMM VENOM
Lolz imagine venom doing anything to iron man let alone thor is hilarious it was entertaining but this would be more carnage than venom but even then nahhh
"Sir, I have detected something trying to enter the suit." "Something?" "It appears to be an alien lifeform. Ooze. Here are the files." "Huh... that explains a lot..." "The scanners are detecting a lot of frustration. I believe this is the first time it has interacted with an air tight suit and has no idea what to do now." "Oh hey its vulnerable to sound and heat, neat." "Turning on the external speakers, would you prefer rock or metal?"
And comic writers wonder why they get outsold by trash Manga easily. Awful stories like this are why, completely ignored all logic of the verse and characters just for a shitty guess who gore story.
I am glad the venom symbiote picked widow and masked his intentions well using her perfect mimicry allowing her to pass through Banner's suspicion using the slain heroes to induce panic and stress to be usable to keep a clear mind venom is the apex predator and clings to whoever has darkness in their hearts widow even with all her rights still had her wrongs haunting her and because venom amplifies those wrongs by possession she gave into it and feeded off from that darkness.
I feel like people are missing this is an elseworld story, unless I missing something major this isn't canon. The characters peaks and stats are whatever the writer decides they are for this world
I don't think people care that it's an else world story honestly a lot of elseworld stories aren't very good because liberty's they take for said thing to be done the character has to be dumber than normal or weaker than normal and people don't like it.
@@bobmclovinelectricboogaloo That's fair but it would also be asking a pin to drop the same way twice, yeah you can get it close but the chances you ever gonna drop it the same exact way and land the same exact way is almost 0. Every iteration will be different and that what makes the elseworld stories interesting in how drastically different they are is something that would logically happen
I don't even know how it goes down but if venom bonds with the hulk its over, everyone thinks gamma would destroy him but remember hes a *SYMBYOTE* not "the parasyte" he bonds to the host and even gets some of their abilities as he did with spiderman, if he bonded with Hulk he might walk away with both anger issues and the ability to absorb gamma to grow stronger
It is an interesting take making the symbiote itself really powerful and not just the host plus the symbiote. Since it goes inside the body, that does make the symbiote capable of easily killing within, which is not explored. Maybe it makes it too powerful, but it is an interesting point since it literally takes over the host. Resisting it without the vibrations strategy does not look like a good idea in this comic, though this would be crazy if this was how it always was to this degree
@@bobmclovinelectricboogaloo Nono, The point IS to make you feel sick, Heroes are like beacons of Hope to people, Only WE know how much they matter TO US, So when they kill them, IT IS to make us feel bad!!!
Venom is the goofiest kind of character. There’s not a chance in heck that this Venom stuff would affect him. Also, Marvel has been nerfing Jack Kirby characters.
I think the hulks is ever funnier he's terrified whenever he comes out although his transformation is meant to be from anger 💀 and when he thinks Thor killed Tony he's all to ready to smash him to pieces but when he KNOWS Natasha killed Clint he's a big chicken 🐔
It is understandable that in a fictional universe like the superhero comics, if you as a writer had to account perfectly for the power scalling of every single character in order to write a particular story, it would never be possible or it would be way to awkward to make it work, therefore the best way to deal with it is not to think too hard about the power scalling itself. Nevertheless... I still really hate this type of storytelling.
I always have the thought of, “what if venom first fought Spider-Man in the forest?” Answer: spidey would be dead, venom is stronger, faster, and spidey has no spidey-sense or plot convenience to save him. People really underestimate venom because “just hit metal together or use fire” but what if you didn’t know that? You wouldn’t be able to, the other half of having such easy weaknesses is that those are the only ways to defeat venom, literally, if you do not use fire or sound, venom *will* win eventually, symbiotes do not tire, but everyone else does.
I just realized another thing, it’s presumable that this version of venom never bonded with Deadpool, and he definitely never bonded with Spider-Man, this is a creature that can kill, and is cold and calculating about it, just think, if someone as insane as Deadpool only made venom slightly psychopathic, then imagine what it would be like if it only bonded with a perfectly sane host, it can destroy resistance, it can plan, and it is insidious.
I just realized something Captain America,Hawkeye,Black Widow and Iron Man are far beneath Spider-Man's strength so pinning them against someone who can match peter in power and is even much more versatile is just overkill
Well I'm going to be honest be on everything now the Avengers in Marvel Comics will understand why Spider-Man Peter Parker Miles Morales and all the other Spider-Man and spider women have to fight monsters like this some monsters like Venom symbiote or what the Avengers cannot fight against or win
A lot of people in the comments saying this is a normal day in 616. Did y'all forget the only symbiote encounter the avengers/ the planet truly had was knull and they all almost died. In 616 black widow has a symbiote she's teaching it kindness i wonder why? If her symbiote was acting like venom in this comic most of the avengers would be dead. The only survivor would be hulk since he's a true immortal.
I dont think a lot of you realize that this isnt venom fighting in his normal human like form, hes a symbiotic parastie crawling into their bodies killing them from the inside out
I don't ever have a problem with these "what if" esque elseworld stories where characters like venom kill characters like the avengers, so long as they're respective of those characters and present scenarios where the villains CAN win. It shows how the mainline heroes are constantly on a life and death wire and a few small tweaks could be their actual deaths. This kinda just presented it as "they encounter a wild venom. Oopse, they died" the best one was hawkeye. That's the only reasonable way venom could kill someone as perceptive as him without him blowing venom to bits in like half a second. I also liked how the symbiote lashed out at bruce by using black widows correct skills to brag about, but doing it in a way that would feel weird and very un-black widowy/trained assassin like if you pay attention to just her in that moment. the others are very disappointing though ngl
After seeing the symbiote being turned into a baby and nerfed to oblivion. I can't take this symbiote as seriously as I would like to. Oh, how I wished they went into the lovecraftian horror line more instead of the baby girl one. Nonetheless, I'll be lying if I said I don't appreciate venom horror stories. This will be a good addition to my collection.
I know the Invincible and The Boys comics are known for being brutal and fucked up...but there have been several cases where Marvel and DC take it to a whole new level 💀
Venom to Spidey: Ayo whats good shitass u ready to throw down again or raincheck?
Venom to The Avengers: *_Your bones will make fine toothpicks to pluck your organs from my teeth._*
Spittin
only cuz of eddy he keeps him in check
Venom lowkey loves spidey tho n js wants his ex back
Comic accurate momment
I'm cracking up at the first line lol holy shit
"The person who'd win in a fight is the person that the scriptwriter wants to win!" -Stan Lee
true but that would make storywriting kinda sucks
This wasnt a fight this was an ambush
A fair fight is different from assassination.
They also have to be consistent with power scaling
Y’all know Thor could unleash an eletric discharge and poof no more venom, hulk gamma’s body would fry him on the spot if he took over and tony have a whole freaking military base for a house if he got killed here defenses system would have activated, and poof no more venom.
Sooooooo yeah, scriptwriter wins not venom.
It felt like these trained heroes with nerves of steel were made dumb by the writer. Natasha losing her cool might've been a hint at the symbiote, but hawkeye and banner have watched her do all sorts of things that require a stone cold poker face over the years and they didn't question why she flipped out. hawkeye threatening hulk when the way the others were murdered was obviously not his m.o. felt dumb too. the bodies even looked like they were dissolved, obviously not how hulk hands work.
I like the concept of a super hero murder mystery tho.
You gotta take into consideration that these heroes are some of the toughest in the world. Someone, or _something,_ is killing them left to right, no signs of a struggle, they clearly have no reference to what could have caused this.
All they know is that they’re in dangerous and uncharted territory. Plus they lost a close friend. Fear of danger, fear of the unknown, and the anxiety of someone close to them being sloppy butchered can definitely cause a freak out.
@@azureheart2846 They've all been in enough situations that they should understand that when you're scared is the perfect time to slow down and recollect everything you've seen so far imo. I get what you mean thoough.
They have face far worse this is just a weak mcu version of them the main 616 would treat this like a Tuesday.
I think the concept makes it worse listen to than “super hero murder story” they don’t even fight in this
Fear and brain altering parasites can do weird things
The writers seem to have mixed up Venom with The Thing (no not the granite guy)
The horror thing?
@ bingo
I thought of the same thing
@@DravenCollins-s4x i see what u did there
Honestly don’t blame them. Both are shapeshifting aliens that have a weakness to fire. Which reminds me, why are so many aliens weak to fire?
I refuse to believe the AVENGERS lost to something you can beat by slapping two metal pipes together.... Thats what He said
the way it happens makes perfect sense though so i guess stay delusional?
It did it quietly, before any of them and a chance to do anything
Plus this is a Venom that nobody knew. Nobody knew what a symbiote even was yet because he JUST arrived, nobody would know sound waves or fire would be its weakness.
@@WingedCrusade thank you. Once again thanks for not being an ass like the first guy
@@Lil2Unhappy Some folk gotta grind their point into your face, never realizing that cause people to ignore them even if they may have a point.
I'm a huge venom fan, but he's not cooking thor or hulk.
Depends on the Venom, spider man 2 Venom probably has a pretty good shot
Mcu yes comic no chance.
You must not be a huge venom fan then because current venom right before the symbiote war arc was stronger than both odinforce thor and the hulk. And it wasn't even close.
@DaichiOkami are you talking about from the king in black comics? What powers does he have that could kill hulk or thor? I haven't read the comics and I watched 1 youtube video so I really don't know
Then you may be a fan but you have never read the comics of venom
Theres is literally nothing venom could do to the Hulk that he couldn't heal from. Even if he reduced him to liquid. The Hulk rejected the spikes from the planet hulk series, he would eventually spit out venom. But its a good story anyway, channels the Thing
What if Hulk being scared shitless had something to do with it? Bro got so scared he gave Bruce the wheel back.
Don't know what to call it but it's bad.
Superhero comics have this issue of disbelief due to retcons.
They can be as powerful or as weak as the writer wants them to be.
Which shows this is a nerfed hulk like the one from mcu because the hulk doesn't get scared.
I think hulks mind would have a lot to do with it too
@@xavierjones9932when your scared your immune system kicks it up 2 gears pumping blood faster, warmer and adrenaline, with this he would of instantly rejected venom, especially with all that gamma pumped in him (which is LITERALLY used to kill cells which venom is a clump of)
I think it would be a mistake if the symbiote merged with the hulk there is a chance that the gamu radiation in the hulk might make him incompatible but because the hulk can regenerate when the symbiote left him hulk would say hulk smash and that would be the end of the symbiote 🤔
vibrations from a hulk roar or smash would outright kill a symbiote. very sketchy for that thing to cling to Hulk.
Sorry but if I'm not mistaken didn't venom bond with hulk in the king in black? The both was fine so... How do y'all believe that hulks gama or roars would affect venom? Not getting on y'all just asking a harmless question?
@@blain61The second a symbiote bonds to a host, it is immune to the host powers. Once it leaves, it is less so, but still does keep some, relative to how long it was with the host.
@@Snakeninja38no, it bonded with ghost rider and couldn’t stay on him because of his flames, had to get off
Venom bonded with hulk in absolute carnage comics. But carnage just destroyed hulks brain
DC/Marvel writers going five seconds without making a weird fetish story about their favorite character murdering their comic verse challenge.
Difficulty Rating: Impossible.
I feel like Marvel does it more
@@teleportedbreadfor3days they both do it too much for my taste.
@ I don’t disagree. But who do you think does it more?
@@teleportedbreadfor3days probably marvel.
It’s called a horror story
You telling me a washed up reporter could handle him but the literal god of thunder couldn't? 😂
Yeah, such crap writing.
3:26 THEY DID TONY SO DIRTY
4:19 THOR NO
I don't get how jarvis didn't notice the symbiote enter or even alert the Avengers of it
He was just drunk.
Bro deserves it tbh
@@karawithgun8148 some of the versions deserve it, others don’t
I hate these types or comics where they make the characters lose or be stupid on purpose, the only one who feels well written is Tony, and he’s dead……
He's not, Jarvis would have alerted everyone after sensing the obvious anomaly
Ppl forget the symbiote copies its hosts DNA to become compatible or not, but Hulk’s genes is so powerful it’ll produce antibodies strong enough to constantly battle venom unless they willingly became one.
There's no way 616 venom could do that to Thor, this is absurd
"Absurd"
imagine this dude reading comics, "this is where I draw the line, it's unrealistic!"
@@Bluechief6 comics dont have to follow real world logic, but abandoning the in universe logic is just bad writing
@@Bluechief6i mean ye but i think he means based on the feats from both hulk and thor 616 there’s no way venom is doing that
@@Bluechief6 normal people are capable to u derstand consistency in fiction , maybe you cant
@@Bluechief6 oh no how dare somebody want consistent storytelling with their favorite characters how unrealistic of them. 🤦
I always felt like Venom would struggle with controlling Hulk due to all duel personalities. Bruce would be used to sharing the body with a dominant personality, and Hulk would probably start thrashing himself around to hurt the symbiote.
Aight i like to see vemon as the monster it could be, but theres no way thor (even drunk) wouldn't just call thunders on himself the moment a crazy creature or a possessed natasha jump on him
5:45 oh god now there's THREE different beings sharing Bruce's body lol
I love venom but... Uh... Nuh uh. Venom is cool hut base venom Aint cooking like this
Even worse if he doesn't have Eddie inside. Not even mentioning him without Peter's powers lmao.
@@SuperDababy2I love that the hulk who's triggered by rage is just at the end super scared like how could banner even transform if he's not angry not to mention when he thinks Thor killed Tony he's smashing the place apart but when he sees black widow kill Hawkeye he's a lost puppy 💀
@@SuperDababy2there’s no version of spiderman stronger than god of light venom so idk what u brought up peter for
Venom can’t do shit to Thor. He’s on a different level.
Agreed, any time a writer has Thor easily taken out and/or killed they clearly don’t acknowledge what he’s capable of smh
Ima be real, venom in his pure symbiote form is THE thing that would get to thor. I doubt it would, or could, but i especially doubt it would kill him. Thor goes through an insecurity phase three times a year and loses his hammer and has to reinforce himself over and over again because it's basically in his job description to fight Lovecraftian horrors on the daily. He'd honestly probably love to have a symbiote of his own that eats away his fears and lets him sink into his own selfasuring sense of pride
Probably because its just an example of how strong venom could be if he continued eating...
The power of the writers, man. Like Stan Lee said, "it depends on the writers"
As a Venom enjoyer, this is the kind of plot armor that would make Batman jealous
The comic is Venomverse Reborn
I love it when authors keep the mystery and don't spoil the main antagonist in the video title. Thanks 👍
If i were the writer of this mini story, I'd expand on how the symbiote would study the Avengers while giving them a wild goose hunt. Figuring out weaknesses. Especially for thor.
He could of written that the symbiote waited for thor in a drink and controlled him through his thunder rage form?
I really dont like how many writers just dont give a proper explanation on why it would defeat thor. It can be done but that is lazy, at least just say thor was gone and returned to find hulk as a symbiote beast and they throwdown
Venom with Spider-Man: Yooo waddup spidey! Ready to throw hands like every tuesday?
Venom with the avengers: Look what they need to mimic a fraction of our power, eddie.
So we’re pretending that this would happen to Thor?
Absolutely not, story had me up until that point. I hate it when writers have Thor easily defeated by an opponent who’s never been able to hurt him, they wouldn’t dare do that to Superman smh.
@@steverogers2732superman vs batman😂
Nope, but the writers sure are
@@steverogers2732
Lol, base Godzilla nearly one-shotting Superman with one atomic breath in the crossover:
@ that was freaking awesome, G-man proceeded to wreck Hawkgirl and Atom Smasher afterwards
This is a cool What If story. Guess I gotta google the description of this comic so I can get the name.
For those who wanna buy this, It's called: Venomverse Reborn.
One take on what it would be like for Venom trying to take over the Hulk, is that inside Banner's head, Venom would be outnumbered at least 3 to 1, with Bruce Banner, Savage Hulk, and Joe Fixit, against him. I understand World Breaker and Professor Hulk are missing, and Immortal Hulk is dead. I don't know if Titan is it's own personality yet either. At any rate, there are probably too many minds inside Banner's head for Venom to force it's way into control.
I was liking the homage to The Thing (one of few movies that still scares me) until Thor was killed lol, writers who write him as easily defeated clearly don’t like him. They wouldn’t dare write off Superman or even fucking Batman as easily killed.
And the fact hulk is scared whenever he comes out in this comic despite being triggered by anger
I mean they have but to be fair it's generally a huge affair not something that would happen off screen.
Batman getting his head and spinal cord ripped out of his body to be forced to watch Gotham get burned down and rebuild just to be killed by the next Batman when they try to save Bruce is crazy.
Theres no way venom would bring down iron man or thor without taking down half the building. Iron mans defenses would detect and try to purge the symbiote, jarvis would send an alert, and thors lighting would mess him up....i get the concept, but nah.....
You know full well that once peter found out about this he broke his no kill rule
Ok so a few things after reading the comments. People seem to be thinking these are main universe avengers. They aren't. We don't know their power range, how experienced they are as the avengers, nothing. This is an alternate universe which Eddie literally says at the end of the comic. Venom can very easily 100% do this to people even powerful ones so long as they are organic in nature, because the symbiote quite literally feeds off organic matter and a specific chemical which is found in organs, brains, and chocolate. People forget that symbiotes can break down organic matter either completely bypassing their durability in some cases or just needing to weaken them a bit like in prototype, which is what inspired prototypes entire thing. Symbiotes are stupidly strong even weak ones because they are pretty much unkillable and this is right after venom comes to earth no one knows what it is or it's weakness. Hence hulks very unusual fear, he doesn't know what it is and has only seen it kill his friends. That would be terrifying to a creature that has the mind of a child in the early days of the hulk.
Good explanation
The only thing you got right was that it is an alternative universe
@haylongwang3002 so they changed what the symbiotes feeds on since the original explanation back around when venom first became the lethal protector? It's like a staple of his character. And we've seen characters get eaten by symbiotes when they are much stronger than the symbiote. Comics are inconsistent and new things are constantly introduced. A big part of venoms character was overcoming his bloodlust and desire for brains partly thanks to chocolate and mostly thanks to actual character development.
I love this story so much. You can clearly see they very inspired by John Carpenter's _The Thing_ with the whole paranoia among the characters.
It’s trash
It’s a cool concept but these heroes wouldn’t do most of these dumb mistakes in actuality
On my way to watch venom this is perfect
Its so good man
Could you please start including the title of the comic/issue/run in the description moving forward?
Thanks.
yall noticed the smile natasha had in the reflection bruces glasses, a little foreshadowing??? 1:52
I like the interaction between Bruce and Natasha here.
blud she literally was pissed at him💀
Why wouldn’t Steve be a good host? He’s a super soldier, definitely a better option than other hosts that symbiotes have bonded to
Not enough emo
it's because steve was resisting to due his willpower
Not a good host, too much of a nice person
Too strong willed. His consciousness was able to fight back for control against the symbiote. So he killed him and took over Natasha, who we know has been through some serious brain washing. It was harder for her to fight back because Venom could go deeper into her dark psyche and she probably never knew she was asleep until it was too late. By then Iron man and Thor were already dead.
Venom that fear sound, light and fire. Kill the thunder god thor... Seriously?
Kill the counter first? Maybe the writer is a gamer lol
Can you please start including which comics you are making videos on? I'd like to read it but I have no idea where now
Marvel what if: the venom(thing parody)
Another reason why spider man is important to the marvel universe.
I cannot tell what's worse iron man fusing with his armor and losing his sanity or turning into soup
Anti Venom Would Either Stabilize Hulk And Banner or Rid Banner of the Radiation
*Venom Hulk then hears a Poison patter in the shadows. It comes out and it waves to him.*
Venom Hulk: Oh Fuk.
If venom were to take over hulk it would be a big problem but in the end venom won't be able to hold him forever considering he has many allies that will already know of venoms weaknesses
I like this story cause it makes you remember just how terrifying of a creature venom really is, Spider-Man is only able to joke because he can somewhat handle him and their complicated history makes the fights more about making Peter suffer than actually killing and devouring him
6:20 - Pretty sure Thor got taken out first then Tony right? After all he was possessing Thor when confronting Tony.
Too much darkness
Nah
u know shit is real when the Hulk is asking you to control yourself
And thats why the avengers need Spiderman so he can check venom at bay :)
Venom became a living pile of acid in this lol
This multivariant of Venom literally turnt the whole lobby into an Among us whodoneit caboodle, and aside from that uncharacteristic Captain America peering into an alien hole, this shit was G A S, VENOMMMMMMM, VRR VR VRRRUUUMM VENOM
Bro, Hawkeye ready to smoke him despite seeing the Hulk shit himself in fear 🤨
Hulk was like OH MY GOD THOR
It hasn't even been a second and there's already unnecessary censors as far as the eye can see
Marvel loves to nerf Thor, just look at Rivals
Sounds like a skill issue
Lolz imagine venom doing anything to iron man let alone thor is hilarious it was entertaining but this would be more carnage than venom but even then nahhh
"Sir, I have detected something trying to enter the suit."
"Something?"
"It appears to be an alien lifeform. Ooze. Here are the files."
"Huh... that explains a lot..."
"The scanners are detecting a lot of frustration. I believe this is the first time it has interacted with an air tight suit and has no idea what to do now."
"Oh hey its vulnerable to sound and heat, neat."
"Turning on the external speakers, would you prefer rock or metal?"
And comic writers wonder why they get outsold by trash Manga easily. Awful stories like this are why, completely ignored all logic of the verse and characters just for a shitty guess who gore story.
Which is why Manga is beating both DC AND Marvel and doing so easily.
Half of these comics are made by writers who either don't like the heroes or have gore fetish.
This would not happen lol
Sure it can. They never witnessed a Symbiote before. And Symbiotes by design are made to kill/eat/possess/corrupt gods.
Maybe not hulk and Thor but definitely could easily happen to the other three especially since he was operating with stealth the whole time
The avengers would violate venom 😂
I am glad the venom symbiote picked widow and masked his intentions well using her perfect mimicry allowing her to pass through Banner's suspicion using the slain heroes to induce panic and stress to be usable to keep a clear mind venom is the apex predator and clings to whoever has darkness in their hearts widow even with all her rights still had her wrongs haunting her and because venom amplifies those wrongs by possession she gave into it and feeded off from that darkness.
I feel like people are missing this is an elseworld story, unless I missing something major this isn't canon. The characters peaks and stats are whatever the writer decides they are for this world
I don't think people care that it's an else world story honestly a lot of elseworld stories aren't very good because liberty's they take for said thing to be done the character has to be dumber than normal or weaker than normal and people don't like it.
@@bobmclovinelectricboogaloo That's fair but it would also be asking a pin to drop the same way twice, yeah you can get it close but the chances you ever gonna drop it the same exact way and land the same exact way is almost 0. Every iteration will be different and that what makes the elseworld stories interesting in how drastically different they are is something that would logically happen
I don't even know how it goes down but if venom bonds with the hulk its over, everyone thinks gamma would destroy him but remember hes a *SYMBYOTE* not "the parasyte" he bonds to the host and even gets some of their abilities as he did with spiderman, if he bonded with Hulk he might walk away with both anger issues and the ability to absorb gamma to grow stronger
Tony got spring trapped😂
It is an interesting take making the symbiote itself really powerful and not just the host plus the symbiote. Since it goes inside the body, that does make the symbiote capable of easily killing within, which is not explored. Maybe it makes it too powerful, but it is an interesting point since it literally takes over the host. Resisting it without the vibrations strategy does not look like a good idea in this comic, though this would be crazy if this was how it always was to this degree
Bro this art is fire tho
I'm sick of my heroes being murdered.
I think that’s the point
@@cynicalfella doesn't sound like a good point.
@@bobmclovinelectricboogaloo Nono, The point IS to make you feel sick, Heroes are like beacons of Hope to people, Only WE know how much they matter TO US, So when they kill them, IT IS to make us feel bad!!!
@@cynicalfella No they mean that it's old a boring and they want to read something good. Not just suprise x character is dead
Basically the Symboote became the Thing
Man this is why Spider-Man’s better than the avengers he’s even beat them before
Theres no in universe logic for this, venom cant beat the avengers
@ true but this one is really sneaky and new how to trick all of them
@JOjustuce maybe he can take down 2, but just because you can trick someone who is 100x stronger doesn’t mean you win
@@Noir-Filmer true but if it was head on against them just maybe
@JOjustuce uhhh….no?
Venom isn’t able to even contend with the avengers head on, let alone sneak attack
I wish the art didn't have to be censored.
UA-cam just hates anything that's not family friendly, even though they a separate app for kids. (Which is still awful.)
Wait so it was an alternative universo or just Eddie telling a what if scenery?
Venom made Thor into Beta Ray Bill!
Venom is the goofiest kind of character. There’s not a chance in heck that this Venom stuff would affect him.
Also, Marvel has been nerfing Jack Kirby characters.
The Hulk, the Immortal Hulk… the Fractured Son… that won’t ever EVER happen.
It’s probably was a SKrull Hulk.
Post the fucking issue information so I can buy it and support the people who actually write this.
Hulk Venom was said by Stan Lee it will not end well in an interview and it didn't.
Ok Cap seems logical, and Tony too, but Thor? Who wrote this, a venom obsessed teenager?
I think the hulks is ever funnier he's terrified whenever he comes out although his transformation is meant to be from anger 💀 and when he thinks Thor killed Tony he's all to ready to smash him to pieces but when he KNOWS Natasha killed Clint he's a big chicken 🐔
Yall ever heard of the hit game "among us"?
It is understandable that in a fictional universe like the superhero comics, if you as a writer had to account perfectly for the power scalling of every single character in order to write a particular story, it would never be possible or it would be way to awkward to make it work, therefore the best way to deal with it is not to think too hard about the power scalling itself.
Nevertheless... I still really hate this type of storytelling.
I always have the thought of, “what if venom first fought Spider-Man in the forest?” Answer: spidey would be dead, venom is stronger, faster, and spidey has no spidey-sense or plot convenience to save him.
People really underestimate venom because “just hit metal together or use fire” but what if you didn’t know that? You wouldn’t be able to, the other half of having such easy weaknesses is that those are the only ways to defeat venom, literally, if you do not use fire or sound, venom *will* win eventually, symbiotes do not tire, but everyone else does.
I just realized another thing, it’s presumable that this version of venom never bonded with Deadpool, and he definitely never bonded with Spider-Man, this is a creature that can kill, and is cold and calculating about it, just think, if someone as insane as Deadpool only made venom slightly psychopathic, then imagine what it would be like if it only bonded with a perfectly sane host, it can destroy resistance, it can plan, and it is insidious.
That's why this is battle between venom and Spiderman in the first place.
It makes sense since if spider man never found em and they did in the way this story is told they wudnt know about the metal being a weakness
This is just venoms dream
I just realized something
Captain America,Hawkeye,Black Widow and Iron Man are far beneath Spider-Man's strength so pinning them against someone who can match peter in power and is even much more versatile is just overkill
I forgot why wasnt Spidey's first interaction wasnt as vicious as this one
Plot like The Thing(1982) and Alien 😅
hulk getting scared hahaha
Well I'm going to be honest be on everything now the Avengers in Marvel Comics will understand why Spider-Man Peter Parker Miles Morales and all the other Spider-Man and spider women have to fight monsters like this some monsters like Venom symbiote or what the Avengers cannot fight against or win
Could you elaborate further?
the avengers can beat any villain spiderman could especially hulk, iron man and thor
This is their nerfed version any 616 version expect for black hawkeye wouldn't be stealth killed like that or have lost.
@@SPIDERMANISOVERRATED they added knew lore that connects to this read the recent venom comics
A lot of people in the comments saying this is a normal day in 616. Did y'all forget the only symbiote encounter the avengers/ the planet truly had was knull and they all almost died. In 616 black widow has a symbiote she's teaching it kindness i wonder why? If her symbiote was acting like venom in this comic most of the avengers would be dead. The only survivor would be hulk since he's a true immortal.
AAAND of course, another comic where the Avengers are done dirty, and most of all, Iron Man. No respect for them all
Venom be putting up LeBron numbers against anybody who isn’t Spider-Man 💀
Its cuz venom loves peter
I dont think a lot of you realize that this isnt venom fighting in his normal human like form, hes a symbiotic parastie crawling into their bodies killing them from the inside out
People debating who venom could kill
Meanwhile my laugh was when black widow honestly said she could kill any of them.
Spiderman: venom... what the f.
I don't ever have a problem with these "what if" esque elseworld stories where characters like venom kill characters like the avengers, so long as they're respective of those characters and present scenarios where the villains CAN win. It shows how the mainline heroes are constantly on a life and death wire and a few small tweaks could be their actual deaths. This kinda just presented it as "they encounter a wild venom. Oopse, they died" the best one was hawkeye. That's the only reasonable way venom could kill someone as perceptive as him without him blowing venom to bits in like half a second. I also liked how the symbiote lashed out at bruce by using black widows correct skills to brag about, but doing it in a way that would feel weird and very un-black widowy/trained assassin like if you pay attention to just her in that moment. the others are very disappointing though ngl
After seeing the symbiote being turned into a baby and nerfed to oblivion. I can't take this symbiote as seriously as I would like to.
Oh, how I wished they went into the lovecraftian horror line more instead of the baby girl one.
Nonetheless, I'll be lying if I said I don't appreciate venom horror stories. This will be a good addition to my collection.
GOOD LORD, WHAT'D HE DO TO THOR!?
Ngl one of the most gruesome marvel comics I’ve seen.
Venom ordinarily has to deal with one mind with hulk he deals with a dozens
I know the Invincible and The Boys comics are known for being brutal and fucked up...but there have been several cases where Marvel and DC take it to a whole new level 💀
So you're telling me this Venom is immune to Electricity? Both Iron Man and Thor would cook venom as soon as he touched them.