Hi Peter. I've seen some Deceiver patterns with a loop of heavy mono tied in under the tail to prevent fouling. I don't know if it's more effective than bucktail, but it's equally simple. I'm going to tie some of these for stripers.
I've tried the loop as well. It did the job preventing fouling, but my fish catching with the fly wasn't impressive. I went back to no loop and catching fish. The loop shouldn't have made a difference, but it did.
Funny, but the Deceiver has never been high on my list as I find that it hangs to high in the water thanks to the drag and low sink rate. I'd rate the Clouser way ahead of the Deceiver.
Those Gamakatsu hooks look almost but not quite like circle hooks. Have you tested the saltwater Weamer tied on circle hook? I quite agree that shorter shanks with wider gapes are much more effective.
I used circle hooks briefly quite a few years ago, but with not enough action to form an opinion on them. I'd imagine that when swung they would work, but not when stripped.
Wraps over the eyes, now that is clever, they’re so fiddly. Thanks a million!
I was looking for the up-eye hook. I love your streamers, especially your bass and carp streamers. Thank you Peter!!! 👍🎣
Ya, the up-eye hook isn't need with these very short shanked hooks.
Thank you for the updated pattern. I'm going to tie and try it.. 🍻
Hi Peter. I've seen some Deceiver patterns with a loop of heavy mono tied in under the tail to prevent fouling. I don't know if it's more effective than bucktail, but it's equally simple. I'm going to tie some of these for stripers.
I've tried the loop as well. It did the job preventing fouling, but my fish catching with the fly wasn't impressive. I went back to no loop and catching fish. The loop shouldn't have made a difference, but it did.
@@hooked4lifeca I'll go with your tested empirical knowledge! Thanks.
I think the Lefty Kreh Deceiver is by far the best streamer ever.
Funny, but the Deceiver has never been high on my list as I find that it hangs to high in the water thanks to the drag and low sink rate. I'd rate the Clouser way ahead of the Deceiver.
Is the brown trout version fishable on a 5wt? I’m definitely going to try some of these on my local streams for smallmouth and trout. Thanks!
Most definitely. I've fished it on lighter rods than a 5.
How to those hooks Gamakatsu or Daiichi affect how the fly rides thru the water. Before you used up eye hooks to keep them riding level
Good question. The weight being concentrated in the front of the fly keeps it riding level.
Those Gamakatsu hooks look almost but not quite like circle hooks. Have you tested the saltwater Weamer tied on circle hook? I quite agree that shorter shanks with wider gapes are much more effective.
I used circle hooks briefly quite a few years ago, but with not enough action to form an opinion on them. I'd imagine that when swung they would work, but not when stripped.
Yup - steelhead….looks like an emerald shiner
Instead of the marabou can you just use craft fur
If you're fishing turbulent currents the craft fur would be OK, but it's not a good choice for slower currents/speeds. Marabou simply moves better.