TOP 100 STRONGEST FATE CHARACTERS (All Series): ua-cam.com/video/poKzfyZY7UE/v-deo.html&ab_channel=GuessWho *1) GILGAMESH & ENKIDU:* Gilgamesh is widely considered to be the strongest servant in the HGW. Even after having seen Alcides use the Pelt of the Nemean Lion, Nine Lives, and Reincarnation Pandora, it is still considered that only Enkidu can equally match Gil. *2) PALE RIDER:* The moment Pale Rider appeared, Alcides' Instincts told him that he should retreat at once, despite having absorbed From Hell by this point. Gilgamesh on the other hand believes he can blast away if the situation arrives. From what we've seen, Pale Rider is in that Alcides/Gate of Babylon+ level, but still weaker than Ea. He may be able to beat Enkidu, but that would just be compatibility, as stated in Volume 1. *3) ALCIDES:* Even with Reincarnation Pandora + Nine Lives + the Pelt of the Nemean Lion, Gilgamesh wasn't pressed at all to use Ea against him. It is stated that Gil doesn't need Ea against him, and thus, there's no risk of it being stolen. It's even worse for Alcides fanboys, cause Alcides was even buffed by Jack's From Hell NP, which he had stolen right before his 2nd fight with Gil. Even with "Magical Energy several times stronger" than the one he has normally, Alcides couldn't overpower GoB. *4) RICHARD:* Even after having stolen Jack the Ripper's From Hell, Alcides was shocked by Richard's performance against GoB, and states that he should be cautious of him. Richard is able to dodge GoB with his sheer speed which is reinforced TWICE OVER by his 2nd NP, and his Godspeed skill. He can also spam Excalibur more than 20 times over, sending Gilgamesh up in the air like a little child kicking a balloon. Gilgamesh only ever hit him cause Richard shielded his master who was in the building below them. Still, he admits that his chances at beating GoB head-on are very low. *5) BERSERKER JACK THE RIPPER:* His first NP, From Hell, transforms him into a pseudo demon, strong enough to one-shot Cerberus (Alcides version), and pierce through the Pelt of the Nemean Lion. Combined with his 2nd NP, Natural Born Killers, Jack can make 200+ body doubles each with their own Demon form. When they all jumped on Alcides, they were kicking his ass so hard he couldn't do anything about it. Alcides was so impressed by him, that he decided to steal From Hell with Reincarnation Pandora. The reason he isn't higher is that Alcides claimed that he could have countered with Nine Lives. Since Alcides + From Hell + Nine Lives couldn't overpower GoB, Jack being weaker than regular Alcides makes him weaker than GoB levels of power by a notable degree. *6) ISHTAR (WITHOUT Gugalanna):* Fought on par with BASE Alcides pretty casually. I didn't take into account Gugalanna since it hasn't manifested completely yet, and thus we don't know how strong it is by this point. If it were complete, I think there's no need to explain how high she would be. *7) HIPPOLYTA:* Hippolyta is right about on par with BASE Alcides. She also performed well against GoB. She still hasn't used her 2nd NP, and can supposedly overcharge her main NP to transform into a Divine Spirit. She has the potential to get higher, but as of volume 6, she's number 7. The rest of the list doesn't need much explanation.
By the way Guess, just to be sure, didn't Gil said to Richard that he wouldn't need his help to get rid of Pale Rider ? Or I might have misunderstood the statements since I didn't get all the context XD.
@@guesswho8556 Oh yeah I was talking about Richard XD. When Richard asked for Gil help against Pale Rider I remember Gil saying that Richard wouldn't need his help against Pale Rider.
@@hikari34622 Richard hasn’t been going all-out for the entirety of SF. It’s only toward the end of volume 6 that he gains his reason to fight and unleashes the inner beast
Looking through the servant tiers and the Masters, I would say outside of the Moon Cell this Grail Wars has the most ways to bring about the apocalypse. Fitting since one of the servants is the Horseman of Pestilence.
@@tgzny So I'll just assume you jumped into Extella and last encore without prior knowledge and context with Extella Zero or played the older games Fate/Extra and Fate/Extra CCC, since your only reference about the extra games seems to be the Extella warriors gameplay. You actually have zero clue about Extra and if your other only reference to Extra is a sequel to a bad end of the original Fate/Extra game(Last Encore), which I again assume you haven't played just completely discredits you even more. FSN is still my favourite fate, but fuck me is Extra CCC such a good story and I cant wait for people to play it once the English translation is done so more people can experience it.
yeah, the tension is really high. because as op as they are, they can still die. There's no telling how it will end. I can also expect some servants actually dying from assassination.
Honestly it seems more Nasu than Narita. Narita said in one of his afterwords that when Nasu told him Enkidu's stats he was worried people would call Enkidu a mary sue. Nasu's reply was just "don't worry about it".
@@CallMeNoa when everyone is op, it's balanced lol And originally he was actually even more powerful tha Gil. Until after he "bonded" with Shamhut for 7 days straight.
@@bluebearie7230 how strong would he be if he were still that beast, but had a conscience? (and basically the same personality as enkidu OG), Enkidu's authority is insane, just because the chains have the concept of "reigning over the gods" _(and he lost 90% of his power/authority)_ I can only assume he's a monster so strong, of such unimaginable powers that he *could* fight at 100% tiamat *momentarily*
@@oberonvortigern231 He was significantly stronger than Gilgamesh, at least in raw strength. in the perfect world, if he could've kept his original strength and his newfound conscience, he would be crazy strong. and with enough preparation from the human's side, the fight would have dragged on longer and caused more destruction. Tiamat didn't have the concept of death after all.
@@guesswho8556 ahh ok would of thought it would just be ex bc of ea bc they go hand in hand like he needs the gate to get ea so tenically they are one but thx makes it more clear
@@1999bazz He was a threat to the human order. The f*cking COUNTER FORCE had to step in to try and stop him. Also, he literally neutralized Enkidu's Enuma Elish, and nuked the continent of Antarctica. He's definitely MUCH stronger than most heroic spirits.
They haven't read strange fake, so they don't bother me. It's just like the people who say CCC Gil is the strongest, even though he isn't even Top 3 Strongest in CCC, let alone the EXTRA games.
@@fatemadman9688 Gilgamesh buffed by the Mythological Mystic Code is TIED with Nero/EMIYA/Tamamo-no-Mae buffed by that same ability. Depending on the player's preferences, you can select one of those 4 servants to complete the game. The plot and fights don't change in the climax no matter who you chose. Even with that powerup, it is calculated that they only stand a 0.9999% chance at beating BB, the main villain. However, with the support of the school building they actually manage to beat her. In the true route, Kiara absorbs BB along with AI sakura, Passionlip and Meltryllis, and becomes a True Demon on par with Buddha. It's no brainer that Kiara far exceeds the protagonists, and she could literally kill them with a wave of her hand if she wanted to. However, since the people Kiara had absorbed were in love with the MC, she is unable to use her abilities against them, and ends up losing. in a 1v1, CCC Gilgamesh gets clapped by BB, let alone Kiara. If that weren't enough, Kiara isn't even the strongest character in CCC. It is stated that out of all the characters that appear in Fate/EXTRA and Fate/EXTRA CCC, only Arcueid with her sanity restored can possibly beat Amaterasu/Tamamo-no-Mae in her 9 tails form. This means that everyone who is not Arcueid, and who appears in one of those 2 games, stands a 0% chance at beating Amaterasu. So you have: - Amaterasu = Tamamo-no-Mae (9 Tails) - Arcueid (Sanity Restored) > Everyone else - Buddha >= Kiara - MC's servant (MMC + school building resources) > BB (Moon Cell Absorbed) - MC's servant ==> Nero/EMIYA/Tamamo/Gilgamesh (MMC) = 0.9999% chance at beating BB (Moon Cell Absorbed) - Full Power Gilgamesh
@@guesswho8556 I want to point out to be fair on arcueid normally amaterasu can't hope to match her Arcueid authority is different on the moon then on earth On earth she is always stronger then her opponent on the moon she can bring the opponent down to 1/6 of there OG abilities A rank servants without NPs are 100 then Amaterasu is 390,000,000 Assuming Arcueid is 100 as well when fighting Amaterasu then Amaterasu is knocked down to 65,000,000 whereas Arc is still only 100 If they fought on Earth Arcs power would be 390,000,001 And even if Amaterasu still wins when Arc is damaged enough Archetype Earth comes out
Interesting list Personally I'm leaning towards Alcides could use reincarnation Pandora on EA but would not be able to use it as it's a weapon only Gilgamesh himself can used as stated by his bio And because of the general rule in Nasuverse that the older something is specially in terms of powers clashing the older one wins,EA being a weapon created at the beginning of the world and the primordial sword would have a higher mystery then Reincarnation Pandora Meaning if Alcides used it on EA he might take it away from Gil but could not use it
Reincarnation Pandora can't steal Ea because Gilgamesh doesn't need it to defeat Alcides in the first place. It was explained during their 2nd fight in the Light Novel.
@@guesswho8556 Well no, that statement came from a very biased source, Gil 'didn't need' EA to defeat Artoria or Shirou, and he was proven wrong on both fronts, it's honestly really obvious that Gilgamesh often overestimates himself, and Alcides is shown to be a lot more level headed when assessing his opponents, FURTHUR, Alcides was in constant pain from the Hydra Venom. I agree that it isn't as one sided as Alcides fans would make it seem, but that situation was far from a fair outlook, it's totally possible Gilgamesh might have gotten wrecked by Alcides. Personally, I actually still think that Alcides is stronger, simply because at full power, Alcides would pretty much completely negate Gil's trump card, and also perform much better than he did up against Gil in their fight, your one piece of proof is from a pretty biased line of dialogue.
@@aaravgaur7that is terrible reasoning. At the end of the day no evidence from strange fake is even needed (although plenty is there) to put Gil at the top. Numerous times he is stated to be the strongest heroic spirit and the pinnacle of heroes. Yknow apart from that there's also just the blatant statements that Gil and Enkidu are the top tiers in strange fake and everyone else is somewhere below them
@@Vid_21 Such as....? I've read the Light Novels and I don't recall any such statements made from a single character that could actually be trusted to know everything properly. The police fear Gil and Enki because they blew up a desert in front of them, Tina and Gil believe Gil to be superior for obviously biased reasons, and just about everyone else puts them at the same level. There is no evidence or statement in SF to prove that Gil's stronger, you're just coping. Oh, and if you are talking about stuff from other materials like Stay Night, that was really only used in the context of that war, we have plenty of servants that would literally obliterate Gil and Enkidu in a fight thanks to FGO. So outside materials don't work either. For the purposes of ranking these characters from Strange Fake, we should only take statements FROM Strange Fake.
@@aaravgaur7 Gilgamesh himself, tine, random mages etc. (And this is even when Alkeides is stated to be several times stronger due to Jack's np.) They all say this. Obviously biased? And why would that be. Having Gil as a servant suddenly makes her blind to the power of others? Pretty sure the narrator aswell at some point says that Gil has no trouble with Alkeides but don't quote me on that. Please do say who puts them on the same level though. If you're talking about beasts and grands or whatever who are explicitly stated to only be greater due to their heroic spirit being in a greater vessel then sure? First of all it's debatable whether they even are stronger than Gil (game feats and stuff) secondly it's irrelevant because the actual heroic spirits wouldn't be stronger than Gil and that's the only thing that matters. As far as I'm aware Alkeides isn't a grand so it makes no difference and Gil is still stronger via the heroic spirit statement. And no that's not just for stay night it explicitly says he is the strongest heroic spirit. If it said servant then you may have a point but heroic spirits always exist in the throne hence the statement includes all of them. I don't see why an intertwined fictional universe such as fate has to be broken up at all actually. But again even just sticking with strange fake the evidence OVERWHELMINGLY suggests Gil is stronger than Alkeides.
Finally someone that have read strange fake and knew how alkeides isnt stronger than Gilgamesh like how ppl always proudly says. Dude was super buffed by jack np and still need to spam nine lives to match GoB spam, and gilgamesh was even about to test him with the more "Bullshit" side of Gob Treasury if its not for the plot demanding gilgamesh to stay as vegetable and doesn't start killing everyone else. Even before volume 5 alkeides have said himself to his master that gilgamesh is strong and how he doesnt fall to his bluff in their first fight. Pale rider i guess is very situational as the more fucked up their master perception of hell and apocalypse is, the more scarier and stronger it became
But here Gilgamesh stance was serious and despite the buff, Alcides is also feeling the constant pain from the Hydra Venom, isn't he. Regardless, he's barely used any of his NP 🙃 so I still say him and Gil are in the same general class and either can win.
@@yaboiplank6764 correction it very much can _steal_ EA from gilgamesh, preventing him from using it. Which means his most surefire way of taking down Alcides would then be gone. For the whole 'I don't need EA to take down alcides' statement That's directly from gilgamesh (Or was it his master?, i forget). Both are exceedingly biased. Gilgamesh also 'didn't need' EA for Shirou, he didn't 'need EA' for Artoria. He was proven wrong both times. He has an arrogance issue and it always costs him. this time it won't because gil is the protag for once (unless he dies and enkidu wins the grail war, which would be an interesting role reversal).
Good stuff right here, also when do they mention "the Spider" Type Mercury, I know Kishur and another Dead Apostole (without counting Jester) apear and probably know about it, but I'm curious about who and on what context did they mention the Ultimate One
Sheesh most of these comments section is about everyone commenting about who's the strongest servant Although it's true that Gil and Enkidu is probably the strongest as well as Alchides, doesn't mean they are truly strong In grail war, anything can happen either fight face to face or sneak attack for those waiting for opportunity The most important aspect in grail war is their master Depending on how master command their servant, some of their affect can be affected Example Rider medusa, before she was Shinji servant but she always got beaten even with the power of mystic eye because Shinji didn't fully supported her as all he does his standing around and command without giving her some magical supplies and then blame her for being weak But when rider is with Shiro, she able to fight saber alter with full power thanks to Shiro fully supporting her and even defending rider from getting blast by Excalibur from saber alter when rider is preparing her NP So the servant in FSF want to be powerful, they must have a strong teamwork with master and servant Still these is my own opinion, no need to take so serious about these power scale servant Who know if there's an even powerful servant than Gil,Enkidu and Alchides
Man, I just wanna see Alcides gets a good fight. The dude's berserker variant keeps on losing within all the stay night routes, and as a berserker characters fan, I'm really saddened. Atleast get him to last to the final 3, like c'mon!!
This version of him had forsaken God-hood and go back to use his real name - this is something that didn't happen in his original lore (which is why he's an alter). You can expect something in return. as of now, his Nemean lion's fur can nullify most of man-made weapons. He won't go down that easy.
@@bluebearie7230 well, I hope so. Dude's own origin is tragic as hell; and although this version of him is an alter ego, I hope he gets some spotlight.
@@bluebearie7230 man, we only have just a few left of our kind, everyone else have been taking that Disney Hercules bullshit and how badass the dude really was have been lost in the books of old. Soon, I'm sure we're going extinct 😭
I would personally put No Name assassin a little higher due to all of potential for i ta kills and her song in particular being able to stun servants but besides that great list
@@Surge-kk6ew During the LN, when Richard was summoned, he defended Ayaka from Assassin's attack, and then Assassin ran away to the back of the theater. She then merged with the shadows and used Cursed Arm Zabaniya from behind Richard, but Rounds of Lionheart stopped it. He then got to see her running around and commented that she's pretty fast, then Excalibur. Assassin dodged it and got away. But even back then, Jester was watching, and said that she had a slim chance of victory, "Noble Phantasms excluded." *He could say with certainty that there was something unusual about the Heroic Spirit who appeared to be Saber. As far as Assassin's Master was concerned, she only had a slim chance of victory. Noble Phantasms excluded* If she uses her full arsenal at maximum potency, it's possible she could beat Richard, but getting to that point is the problem. All it takes is Richard using Excalibur and done. He also survived a frontal attack from Gate of Babylon and was pierced in his limbs and stomach, while it was doubtful for Assassin to survive one weapon from GoB. I'm not saying all this to discredit you, just adding more info to how they compare
I mean I don't blame you considering the ex tier and divinity like class people they summon. More like how does a grail summon so many high powered servant?
I have a question. Does Ozymandias in Camelot Singularity which posses the holy grail, is able to defeat Ishtar (Divine Spirit) that still have her own Gugalanna? Or are they gonna end up in a stalemate? A bit of unfortunate that Ishtar from Strange Fake timeline has stolen the Bull of Heaven from Ishtar of Grand Order timeline.
@@meremsolomon4744 adding the fact that it was a Servant Ozy then he would lose pretty horribly since it took Gil and Enkidu to kill even in their prime (alive) and it last for like years (7?) To actually do that
@@gogo_zeppeli3759 So in conclusion, the Camelot Singularity's Ozymandias who posses the Holy Grail aren't much of a trouble for Divine Spirit Ishtar that haven't lost her Gugalanna?
@@meremsolomon4744 bruh Divine spirits are like the worst opponent for Ozy Ishtar also had a lot of fire power to just blow it up from the inside and with Gugalana all of Ozy's beast will get trampled along with his temple
Depending on reincarnation Pandora’s limits it could be the best NP in fate if it’s just a steal of any kind there definitely has to be limits or it’s just pride keep Alcides from taking the np Maybe it’s touch based only which would limit it as he’d have to touch the servant he’s stealing from idk
@@guesswho8556 or there's not a limit like that and it's more a pride reason that he didn't take GOB we know until it finishes but i do think the touch or true name are likely the cases but if Alcides was trying to Goad Gil into bringing out EA then why wouldn't he know GOB with that assumption
@@bingobongo73 It's not due to pride. It's never stated Alcides has pride. If anything, he is constantly trying to provoke Gilgamesh to take him offguard. He even tells Jack he was really strong and that he was his match. No pride.
@@guesswho8556 Pride wasn't the right word Alcides clearly shows his distaste in the Gods and wants to trample over them with the power of man so he may outright refuse to use a NP that's a gift from the God (EA being the exception) its still likely touch as alcides seems to have a NP that he believes can close the gap atleast in my mind The 3rd labor which is about an impossibly fast deer of Artemis would likely be this NP he'd use to close the gap on Gil to take EA with Reincarnation Pandora though with him staving off the hydra venom I predict he'll succeed but succumb to wounds or something along those lines who knows when SF is gonna finish with Narita's health.
@@ThisGodIsKirby1986 my dude, look it up Pale Rider is another name for Death, just because he doesn't look like a scythe wielding Skeleton doesn't mean it isn't Death And don't forget, the Tenth Plague is always said to be Death itself
My personal ranking: 10. Ishtar (Fighting on par with base Alcides and shit) 9. Jack (The whole clones and From Hell bullshit) 8. Hippolyta (Same as Ishtar but with more abilities) 7. Alcides (Ima get heat for this, but Reincarnation Pandora is by far his best asset, all his good winds and shit were compatibility) 6. Pale Rider (Made Alcides retreat) 5. Richard (He can spam EXCALIBUR, it's fucking EXCALIBUR SPAMMING, the guy does NOT get enough credit) 4. Enkidu (Equal to Gilgamesh) 3. Gilgamesh (Gave him the edge due to Ea having a higher DC) 2. Gugalanna (In myth required Enkidu AND Gilgamesh to take down) 1. Thia Escardos (Hax+crazy AP) 0. Manaka Sajyou (I have a personal theory about Ayaka in SF actually being Manaka that I don't wanna go into, but if that is correct she's obviously the strongest)
Did they reveal who is True Assassin is? I haven't read it so I don't know full details yet. I only heard few theories about this servant that he is one the early old men of the mountain because of the way he speak which is kinda similar to gramps.
Well Francesca Peralti summon Francois Peralti in these grail war as her servant So these prove both of them are servant These probably the most shocked moment for me the fact a servant summon the same servant as itself with different gender
Will Hercules ever not be in the 2nd or 3rd place? This is a character that everyone knows, and who has earned his full strength, but he is always in the background =)
Gil and Enkidu being at the Top is a no brainer. Both of them could've destroyed the Planet with their battle. And yeah, I don't believe Alcides can overpower Gilgamesh especially if he decides to use Ea.
@@guesswho8556 well, Gilgamesh is stronger than Buddha who was gonna cease an infinite number of Parallel Universes. He's definitely above Planet Level.
@@kenpachizaraki5237 wtf. No. Gilgamesh is not stronger than Buddha. Buddha could literaly kill Gilgamesh with a wave of his hand. Buddha wasn't going to destroy "infinite parallel universes". Those were just worlds, and the number wasn't infinite. There aren't infinite timelines in fate. It's literally stated that Gilgamesh isn't planet level.
@@kenpachizaraki5237 in shinjuku da vinci states that there's never been a NP powerful enough to destroy a planet, despite having seen Kingu and Gilgamesh use Enuma Elish against Tiamat. And I seriously don't know where you got Gilgamesh is above Buddha. That's like saying krillin solos beerus, or spiderman solos super man prime 1 billion
I don't know when the 7th volume will be published. The author was extremely sick and has also been working on other series. And the 7th volume won't be the last. I believe he said that by volume 5 he had only covered 50% of the story.
At least Hippolyta should be above Jack. Also Alcides is stronger than Gilgamesh. He told his master that he can defeat Gilgamesh so long as he has access to enough mana which his master can provide.
@@Rodiacreed no, cause it's stated in volume 6 gilgamesh doesn't even need Ea to beat Alcides buffed by Jack's NP + Nine Lives. Alcides never said he could beat Gilgamesh either. You made that up.
@@guesswho8556 No Alcides told his Master that he called Gil weak to provoke him but though it would take a few days and thus require lots of mana he could eventually defeat him. Thats what he said. Who said that Gilgamesh doesn't need Ea? Was it Tine? Her whole boring character is that she is a fangirl and we shouldn't take her words too seriously. She is endlessly fawning over Gil.
@@Rodiacreed quote alcides saying he would win. He never said that. And not only Tine said it. Even after Gil almost died and everyone had seen Reincarnation Pandora and nine lives, it's stated by a bunch of Mages that enkidu is likely the only one that can rival Gil 1v1.
Talking serious, I hope this means in your next General top you will low even more Artoria. She was too hight on your top 60 version, even tho I love her I always feel she should been nowehere near Ozy tier servants, she just doesn't have any way to beat those. Gilgamesh is just too coky.
While I think that Gil claps Artoria, she can theoretically beat someone like Karna. Provided both have infinite mana, she can outdo everything he throws at her, by far, except for VS. Even with VS, she could likely offset it enough to survive, then he’s completely fucked. Even without infinite mana: under a good master, like Rin, she can Excalibur at full power twice. I think he’d be forced to use VS to defend against the first Excalibur and he’s still fucked after that
@@guesswho8556 with Avalon? EZ clap against Karna. Four Excalibur’s, at least. She might possibly give Gil a problem, depending on his mana supply. Iirc, in Volume One of SF, those two Enuma Elishs put a big strain on Tine
how many servants do we have in Fate Strange Fake? 1️⃣ servant for 1️⃣ class? or copy paste from Apocrypha servant format? I already stop counting after freaking Enkidu appear after Gilgamesh 🤯 ⚔️ CLASS Richard I 🏹 CLASS Gilgamesh & Enkidu ✨ CLASS Alexander Dumas Francois Prelati 🐎 CLASS Pale Rider 🌃 CLASS Female Zabaniya True Jack the Rippear LANCER CLASS - BERSERKER CLASS - Hippolyta🤔 "rider" or "archer" class? Ishtar without Gugalanna🤔 "archer" class? Alcides🤔 "berserker" or "archer" class?
this is pretty much accurate in term of fire power. Gil how much you hate him, you cant argue he is the strongest because Enuma Elish but due to the fact we have Pestilence the counter for Enkidu Ishtar the counter for Gilgamesh, Hydra Poison counter for Alkeides, this make the character power scale balance. also, we have so many random thing tjat are still not show from other servant like Watcher, Prelati, True Assasins. this is just a random guess, Im pretty sure Prelati is the end game villain. while Sigma or Ayaka/richard gonna be the end game survivor
@@ThisGodIsKirby1986 Not really, Ishtar has the spare key to the gate of babylon, therefore can seal away all (or at least most) of gilgamesh's Noble Phantasms. And this Ishtar has the gugalanna, which literally ATE the biggest meteor of Thia Escardos, and to defeat this monster of Ishtar it was necessary the live gilgamesh + live enkidu. So ishtar is strange fake's strongest opponent with his gugalanna.
@@ThisGodIsKirby1986 I understand your argument, the problem is that enkidu is a friend of gilgamesh, so the final result of the battle between enkudu and gilgamesh would be a draw (as it happened in the myth), however, ishtar in strange fake is very dangerous and intelligent, she invoked the gugalanna, and even managed to "tame" the true berserker.
@@oxuanquyduong2056 Saint Graph is the servant container. The larger/higher ranked the Saint Graph is, the more power a servant can use. Measuring the Saint Graph of two servants helps determine who has more latent energy, but it doesn't automatically mean who would win. Alcides has an aura/presence equal to that of Gilgamesh, but he is nowhere near as strong as he is.
@@guesswho8556 Salter nukes him before he can and GG. In all seriousness, we don’t know the exact conditions for Reincarnation Pandora. It could be that he needs physical contact for sufficient time to steal it, or that he doesn’t need physical contact at all and can just do it on a whim
@@ahkillease4324 against Jack, he had heard its true name and was making contact with the NP himself. We just don't know if that was just coincidence or if it's a set of conditions that must be met. We must consider that alcides is likely more skilled than Artoria, so chances of him being left with no reaction time are low.
@@guesswho8556 he’s more skilled than Artoria, for sure, but that goes back to us not knowing what the conditions are Does he need to touch them for long enough to transfer it? Does he just need to touch them for any amount of time, thus establishing a link? Does he need to touch them at all? In the final two, he should be able to beat Salter (provided she doesn’t nuke him into oblivion first), but we just don’t know. That’s my only point
alcides seem to be a fan favorite in this channel but lets be honest gil is the dumbest character that should have never been made just for the sheer versatility and raw dps this dude brings out.
Said Gil is the wisest king that literally made humanity what they are today fanboys just saying Alcides is stronger than Gil despite being buff and can't even do shit against his GoB are people who hates Gilgamesh and want someone that can defeat him
@@gogo_zeppeli3759 Also the oldest hero, since The Epic of Gilgamesh is the oldest written stuff if i am not mistaken. I feel so sad for people who can't like good char like Gil.. but like shitty self inserts just cuz they are the main character😀
@Guess Who You than Zelrecth coupd beat some character of fate go live Morgan Zeus fused whit the gods, Chaos God, arijuna Karna ,three gods form , Gilgamesh, tiamat and goetia i know that their ability at a Little unknown for the Moment but what you think the can beat these characters
Richard didn't shit on anyone. He flat out states that he would barely stand any chance at beating Gil if they fought again, and he didn't win their first fight either. And he doesn't even know about Ea. And Gilgamesh was simply fooling around against Alicdes during their first fight. In their 2nd fight Alicdes is buffed and Gilgamesh can still fight him and counter Nine Lives without using Ea. It's stated he doesn't need Ea against Alcides, and therefore there is no chance of Alcides stealing it. Re-read Strange Fake dude
what do you mean? Number one is Enkidu and Gilgamesh. If you were asking who of them might have an edge against the other, then I would say gilgamesh. He is more versatile due to the fact that Gate of Babylon isnt restricted to just weapons, like Enkidus Age of Babylon. Also Gilgamesh got sha naqba imuru, which makes him nigh omniscient and he can see basically all outcomes that will happen in the future. If he wouldnt be so arrogant and uses it more often, he could win every holy grail war without even Gate of Babylon and Ea. Its such a broken ability. He knows every servant's name just by using sha naqba imuru, he knows their noble phantasm even if he dont have it, like in ubw battle against berserker. Even if he faces a opponent where he would only win 1 time out of 1000000, he could see with sha naqba imuru what he has to do to win.
@@guesswho8556 wait what, will that even work and even if It does won't that thing just kinda obliterate everything on an even worst scale than the Angra Mainyu of the Grail in the original timeline, I wonder what his motivation for such a stupid desire may be, for though I know he hates humans, I thought he'd have at least some kind of self-preservation instincts or maybe he just doesn't know how dangerous It is or thinks he can control it
@@guesswho8556 He was the greatest Crusade enemy in second and Crusade war and he was Ricard Rival and the enemy that fail to defeat in thirt crusade war in Fate lore Ricard coorperate with Saladin that have and lead an army of Hassan Assasin in that time to kill undead apothell, Saladin have the world Sharppest and stronggest Blade and its name Damascus sword if i not wrong in the name
@@fightersroots3531 I think there are people at beast's lair working on it, but I fear they might have dropped the project. It's been months and we haven't gotten any news.
Alcides tards in a nutshell. They just read the manga, and watched a few posts on instargram, and they think alcides is god. I guess that what the light novel has to say doesn't matter to them.
the truth is that Gilgamesh is on the same level as Alcides, he is no longer the strongest, Alcides proved that the gob is useless against him twice, one being fine and the other even though Alcides had stolen Jack's np, he lost it and was poisoned with it.poison of the hydra and still he continued fighting with Gilgamesh being healthy, stop his fanaticism for Gilgamesh now he is at the same level as Alcides and that Alcides is a nerfed version of Heraclespoison of the hydra and still he continued fighting with Gilgamesh being healthy, stop his fanaticism for Gilgamesh now he is at the same level as Alcides and that Alcides is a nerfed version of Heracles XD
Alcides wasn't weakened by hydra poison. He had used Chiron's immortality to revive himself and he was suppressing the pain with the black mud. He literally says it in volume 6. so no, he wasn't weakened in any way. Alcides was even buffed by Jack the ripper's NPs, and Gilgamesh with just "hundreds" of NPs was blocking nine lives, even though he can use up to "thousands". And gilgamesh didn't even need to use Enuma Elish cause he was that much more powerful than alcides. They directly state it in the light novel. Alcides isn't equal to Gilgamesh.
@@guesswho8556 Alcides came from several battles before. And how is he not weakened? Alcides has a few days to live before succumbing to pain. Heracles wasn't even using his Nine Lives 100 arrow anti-fortress mode, he was just spamming his Nine lives 9 arrow anti-unity mode and the novel explicitly stated that he and Gilgamesh were on par. You say that Gilgamesh did not occupy Enuma Elish and that is why they are not on par. You have to be fair then. Alcides also did not occupy the other 11 works of him nor Reincarnation Pandora. And we are talking about a Gilgamesh without vanity and a Heracles Archer nerfed by the modification of his SG.
@@fluthlight7131 I'm talking about alcides vs gilgamesh. And don't say I'm not taking Reincarnation Pandora into account. IT IS DIRECTLY STATED that there is NO NEED for Gilgamesh to use Ea against Alcides, and that therefore, THERE IS NO RISK of it being stolen by Alcides. It is never stated Alcides is using the Anti Unit version of Nine Lives and not the Anti Fortress one. He uses NINE Lives twice, once to block Gate of Babylon, and another one to attack Gilgamesh and kill him. When he used it to kill Gil, Gil simply prepared a random NP to block it and not Ea. Alcides wasn't weakened either. He had just used Chiron's immortality to revive himself and the Black mud was suppressing the pain. He was also BUFFED by From Hell which made him SEVERAL TIMES more powerful than normal. And Gilgamesh still didn't need Ea against him. There are still a few labors Alcides hasn't used, but as of now, he is nowhere near Gilgamesh level
Im seriously sick of gilgamesh always being the strongest in every damn work he is in, like ffs give us something new! I really hope that in the next volumes he gets beaten so bad fair and square that him being the strongest isnt applied to him any more, i know this has extremely low chances to happen but my gosh i want something new to happen!
Gilgamesh is not the strongest character in any series he is in, and he was already beaten in strange fake. He is currently unconscious and on the verge of death.
@@guesswho8556 maybe i should've said "the strongest servant", and yes he IS in every goddamn work he is in, he always gets beaten cuz he either is being arrogant or underestimating his opponent, or even both. this really needs to change imo. i dont even wanna mention his incredibly annoying fanboys with their "if gil was serious" shenanigans.
@@guesswho8556 what would Ea do against alcides? Its around the same power as Excalibur from fate zero. Also alcides can do Pandora to copy Ea hence gilgamesh thinks its better not to use Ea.
@@skychieftain don't ask me what would Ea do when I already said he does not need it. During Alcides vs Gilgamesh round 2, Alcides was BUFFED by Jack the Ripper's NP, which he had just stolen. Despite that NP making Alcides' mana "SEVERAL TIMES STRONGER" and Alcides also using Nine Lives, Gilgamesh with just hundreds of NPs from GoB was pushing him back. This is despite Gilgamesh having thrown thousands of arrows during their first fight, but here, he just needs hundreds against a much stronger Alcides. The narrator says it is because he is no longer throwing NPs at random, but that he is now actually trying to kill Alcides through the gaps in the pelt. Despite having seen Reincarnation Pandora, Nine Lives, and From Hell, everyone was convinced Gilgamesh would win. Just read strange fake, cause you are saying nonsense that's contradicted by the source material. The narrator also believes alcides has no other choice but to run away the moment pale rider appears, but Gilgamesh has stated on 2 occasions that he could kill pale rider with 1 swing of Ea. Gilgamesh (Full Arsenal) > Pale Rider > Gilgamesh (Gae of Babylon) >= Alcides (Nine Lives + Jack's NP + Pelt of the nemean lion)
@@guesswho8556 read what you wrote again. Alcides was pushed back because gilgamesh was using GoB on those areas that aren't covered by the pelt. In other words, he's exploiting loopholes in Alcides. That doesnt say much about alcides being stronger or weaker. Its that gilgamesh is getting serious but still fails to kill him. Nobody cares what the others think regarding a battle between the servants. If gilgamesh couldn't kill Alcides even though he wanted to, then he ain't crap. Plus alcides hasn't revealed many of his NPs yet. He doesn't need them against Gilgamesh. Like I said, if you can't defend the statements, stay in your bubble
![Gilgamesh vs Hippolyta vs Alcides | Fate/strange Fake [REUPLOAD]](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/2MXViYfHFD0/mqdefault.jpg)
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*1) GILGAMESH & ENKIDU:* Gilgamesh is widely considered to be the strongest servant in the HGW. Even after having seen Alcides use the Pelt of the Nemean Lion, Nine Lives, and Reincarnation Pandora, it is still considered that only Enkidu can equally match Gil.
*2) PALE RIDER:* The moment Pale Rider appeared, Alcides' Instincts told him that he should retreat at once, despite having absorbed From Hell by this point. Gilgamesh on the other hand believes he can blast away if the situation arrives. From what we've seen, Pale Rider is in that Alcides/Gate of Babylon+ level, but still weaker than Ea. He may be able to beat Enkidu, but that would just be compatibility, as stated in Volume 1.
*3) ALCIDES:* Even with Reincarnation Pandora + Nine Lives + the Pelt of the Nemean Lion, Gilgamesh wasn't pressed at all to use Ea against him. It is stated that Gil doesn't need Ea against him, and thus, there's no risk of it being stolen. It's even worse for Alcides fanboys, cause Alcides was even buffed by Jack's From Hell NP, which he had stolen right before his 2nd fight with Gil. Even with "Magical Energy several times stronger" than the one he has normally, Alcides couldn't overpower GoB.
*4) RICHARD:* Even after having stolen Jack the Ripper's From Hell, Alcides was shocked by Richard's performance against GoB, and states that he should be cautious of him. Richard is able to dodge GoB with his sheer speed which is reinforced TWICE OVER by his 2nd NP, and his Godspeed skill. He can also spam Excalibur more than 20 times over, sending Gilgamesh up in the air like a little child kicking a balloon. Gilgamesh only ever hit him cause Richard shielded his master who was in the building below them. Still, he admits that his chances at beating GoB head-on are very low.
*5) BERSERKER JACK THE RIPPER:* His first NP, From Hell, transforms him into a pseudo demon, strong enough to one-shot Cerberus (Alcides version), and pierce through the Pelt of the Nemean Lion. Combined with his 2nd NP, Natural Born Killers, Jack can make 200+ body doubles each with their own Demon form. When they all jumped on Alcides, they were kicking his ass so hard he couldn't do anything about it. Alcides was so impressed by him, that he decided to steal From Hell with Reincarnation Pandora. The reason he isn't higher is that Alcides claimed that he could have countered with Nine Lives. Since Alcides + From Hell + Nine Lives couldn't overpower GoB, Jack being weaker than regular Alcides makes him weaker than GoB levels of power by a notable degree.
*6) ISHTAR (WITHOUT Gugalanna):* Fought on par with BASE Alcides pretty casually. I didn't take into account Gugalanna since it hasn't manifested completely yet, and thus we don't know how strong it is by this point. If it were complete, I think there's no need to explain how high she would be.
*7) HIPPOLYTA:* Hippolyta is right about on par with BASE Alcides. She also performed well against GoB. She still hasn't used her 2nd NP, and can supposedly overcharge her main NP to transform into a Divine Spirit. She has the potential to get higher, but as of volume 6, she's number 7.
The rest of the list doesn't need much explanation.
By the way Guess, just to be sure, didn't Gil said to Richard that he wouldn't need his help to get rid of Pale Rider ? Or I might have misunderstood the statements since I didn't get all the context XD.
@@hikari34622 gilgamesh said twice that he'll blow up pale rider the next time they meet, and that he isn't worried about him.
@@guesswho8556 Oh yeah I was talking about Richard XD. When Richard asked for Gil help against Pale Rider I remember Gil saying that Richard wouldn't need his help against Pale Rider.
@@hikari34622 Richard hasn’t been going all-out for the entirety of SF.
It’s only toward the end of volume 6 that he gains his reason to fight and unleashes the inner beast
@@ahkillease4324 I see. I just found that statement weird about Richard vs Pale Rider XD
Looking through the servant tiers and the Masters, I would say outside of the Moon Cell this Grail Wars has the most ways to bring about the apocalypse. Fitting since one of the servants is the Horseman of Pestilence.
The Moon cell lol. Fate Extra and the other shitty spinoffs are such a joke 🤣
@@tgzny I wouldn't say it's bad tbh I mean it did give us Kiara
@@tgzny you haven't even played them or read them so you don't have the right to talk
@@tgzny no
@@tgzny So I'll just assume you jumped into Extella and last encore without prior knowledge and context with Extella Zero or played the older games Fate/Extra and Fate/Extra CCC, since your only reference about the extra games seems to be the Extella warriors gameplay. You actually have zero clue about Extra and if your other only reference to Extra is a sequel to a bad end of the original Fate/Extra game(Last Encore), which I again assume you haven't played just completely discredits you even more. FSN is still my favourite fate, but fuck me is Extra CCC such a good story and I cant wait for people to play it once the English translation is done so more people can experience it.
so... basically,
Type-Moon: How many top-tier servants do you want?
Ryogo Narita: *_yes_*
Seriously, the cast of this series is just too OP
yeah, the tension is really high. because as op as they are, they can still die. There's no telling how it will end. I can also expect some servants actually dying from assassination.
Honestly it seems more Nasu than Narita. Narita said in one of his afterwords that when Nasu told him Enkidu's stats he was worried people would call Enkidu a mary sue. Nasu's reply was just "don't worry about it".
@@CallMeNoa when everyone is op, it's balanced lol
And originally he was actually even more powerful tha Gil. Until after he "bonded" with Shamhut for 7 days straight.
@@bluebearie7230 how strong would he be if he were still that beast, but had a conscience? (and basically the same personality as enkidu OG), Enkidu's authority is insane, just because the chains have the concept of "reigning over the gods" _(and he lost 90% of his power/authority)_ I can only assume he's a monster so strong, of such unimaginable powers that he *could* fight at 100% tiamat *momentarily*
@@oberonvortigern231 He was significantly stronger than Gilgamesh, at least in raw strength. in the perfect world, if he could've kept his original strength and his newfound conscience, he would be crazy strong. and with enough preparation from the human's side, the fight would have dragged on longer and caused more destruction. Tiamat didn't have the concept of death after all.
*EX TIER (Are Above Top Servants):*
- *Glgamesh* (Enuma Elish buffed by GoB) = *Enkidu* (Enuma Elish 2.0)
- *Gilgamesh* (Enuma Elish) = *Enkidu* (Enuma Elish)
- *Pale Rider*
- *Alcides* (Reincarnation Pandora)
*TOP TIER (Top Servant level):*
- *Enkidu* (Age of Babylon) = *Gilgamesh* (GoB) >= *Alcides* (Nine Lives + From Hell + Pelt)
- *Alcides* (Nine Lives + Pelt)
*HIGH TIER (Strong Servants that would lose to Top Servants):*
- *Richard* (Excalibur + Buffed by Caster + Godspeed)
- *Jack the Ripper* (From Hell + Natural Born Killers)
*A RANK TIER (First-Class Servants):*
- *Alcides* (Pelt + Goddess of War) >= *Hippolyta* (Goddess of War)
- *Enkidu* (50%) = *Richard* (Excalibur Tree Branch)
- *Jack the Ripper* (From Hell) > *Cerberus* ==> How much higher should they be?
- *Richard* (Buffed by Caster + Godspeed)
- *Gilgamesh* (GoB: "Dozens of NPs") = *Alcides* >=< *Richard* (Buffed by Caster) = *Enkidu* (Trasfiguration: A+ speed)
- *Richard* >= *Hippolyta*
Sorry if I’m being stupid but u ranked Gilgamesh in both ex and A sorry just a big confusing
@@gilgameshkingofheroes1319 Gilgamesh with just GoB is not EX
@@guesswho8556 ahh ok would of thought it would just be ex bc of ea bc they go hand in hand like he needs the gate to get ea so tenically they are one but thx makes it more clear
I wonder where Humbaba and ishtar would be.
@@antoniofaulkner2423 Huwawa in fgo blocked Enuma Elish with 1 hand.
With the new volume, the list may change. According to the description, a revived flat has magical energy greater than a heroic spirit
I hope it does. If the list changes that means we actually got new content, and not random filler that no one cares about
Thia is only higher than the average heroic spirit. Not heroic spirits in general
@@1999bazz He was a threat to the human order. The f*cking COUNTER FORCE had to step in to try and stop him. Also, he literally neutralized Enkidu's Enuma Elish, and nuked the continent of Antarctica. He's definitely MUCH stronger than most heroic spirits.
@@aaravgaur7ince thia gave a proper fight to Enkidu and all you stated it is closer to the realm of divine spirits rather than just heroic ones
@@Дурка-ъ2ф Sorry, Im not quite getting what you're saying....
Waiting for the people that swears that Alcides can easily kill Gilgamesh in a serious fight.
They haven't read strange fake, so they don't bother me. It's just like the people who say CCC Gil is the strongest, even though he isn't even Top 3 Strongest in CCC, let alone the EXTRA games.
@@guesswho8556 interesting i've never read CCC but why isnt Gil the strongest? if so who was on top?
@@fatemadman9688 Gilgamesh buffed by the Mythological Mystic Code is TIED with Nero/EMIYA/Tamamo-no-Mae buffed by that same ability. Depending on the player's preferences, you can select one of those 4 servants to complete the game. The plot and fights don't change in the climax no matter who you chose.
Even with that powerup, it is calculated that they only stand a 0.9999% chance at beating BB, the main villain. However, with the support of the school building they actually manage to beat her. In the true route, Kiara absorbs BB along with AI sakura, Passionlip and Meltryllis, and becomes a True Demon on par with Buddha. It's no brainer that Kiara far exceeds the protagonists, and she could literally kill them with a wave of her hand if she wanted to. However, since the people Kiara had absorbed were in love with the MC, she is unable to use her abilities against them, and ends up losing. in a 1v1, CCC Gilgamesh gets clapped by BB, let alone Kiara.
If that weren't enough, Kiara isn't even the strongest character in CCC. It is stated that out of all the characters that appear in Fate/EXTRA and Fate/EXTRA CCC, only Arcueid with her sanity restored can possibly beat Amaterasu/Tamamo-no-Mae in her 9 tails form. This means that everyone who is not Arcueid, and who appears in one of those 2 games, stands a 0% chance at beating Amaterasu. So you have:
- Amaterasu = Tamamo-no-Mae (9 Tails)
- Arcueid (Sanity Restored) > Everyone else
- Buddha >= Kiara
- MC's servant (MMC + school building resources) > BB (Moon Cell Absorbed)
- MC's servant ==> Nero/EMIYA/Tamamo/Gilgamesh (MMC) = 0.9999% chance at beating BB (Moon Cell Absorbed)
- Full Power Gilgamesh
@@guesswho8556 I want to point out to be fair on arcueid normally amaterasu can't hope to match her
Arcueid authority is different on the moon then on earth
On earth she is always stronger then her opponent
on the moon she can bring the opponent down to 1/6 of there OG abilities
A rank servants without NPs are 100
then Amaterasu is 390,000,000
Assuming Arcueid is 100 as well when fighting Amaterasu
then Amaterasu is knocked down to 65,000,000 whereas Arc is still only 100
If they fought on Earth Arcs power would be 390,000,001
And even if Amaterasu still wins when Arc is damaged enough Archetype Earth comes out
@@SDHVFS Pretty random comment but ok. I didn't say Arcueid was at full power anyway
Interesting list
Personally I'm leaning towards Alcides could use reincarnation Pandora on EA but would not be able to use it as it's a weapon only Gilgamesh himself can used as stated by his bio
And because of the general rule in Nasuverse that the older something is specially in terms of powers clashing the older one wins,EA being a weapon created at the beginning of the world and the primordial sword would have a higher mystery then Reincarnation Pandora
Meaning if Alcides used it on EA he might take it away from Gil but could not use it
Reincarnation Pandora can't steal Ea because Gilgamesh doesn't need it to defeat Alcides in the first place. It was explained during their 2nd fight in the Light Novel.
@@guesswho8556 Well no, that statement came from a very biased source, Gil 'didn't need' EA to defeat Artoria or Shirou, and he was proven wrong on both fronts, it's honestly really obvious that Gilgamesh often overestimates himself, and Alcides is shown to be a lot more level headed when assessing his opponents, FURTHUR, Alcides was in constant pain from the Hydra Venom.
I agree that it isn't as one sided as Alcides fans would make it seem, but that situation was far from a fair outlook, it's totally possible Gilgamesh might have gotten wrecked by Alcides. Personally, I actually still think that Alcides is stronger, simply because at full power, Alcides would pretty much completely negate Gil's trump card, and also perform much better than he did up against Gil in their fight, your one piece of proof is from a pretty biased line of dialogue.
@@aaravgaur7that is terrible reasoning. At the end of the day no evidence from strange fake is even needed (although plenty is there) to put Gil at the top. Numerous times he is stated to be the strongest heroic spirit and the pinnacle of heroes. Yknow apart from that there's also just the blatant statements that Gil and Enkidu are the top tiers in strange fake and everyone else is somewhere below them
@@Vid_21 Such as....? I've read the Light Novels and I don't recall any such statements made from a single character that could actually be trusted to know everything properly.
The police fear Gil and Enki because they blew up a desert in front of them, Tina and Gil believe Gil to be superior for obviously biased reasons, and just about everyone else puts them at the same level.
There is no evidence or statement in SF to prove that Gil's stronger, you're just coping.
Oh, and if you are talking about stuff from other materials like Stay Night, that was really only used in the context of that war, we have plenty of servants that would literally obliterate Gil and Enkidu in a fight thanks to FGO. So outside materials don't work either.
For the purposes of ranking these characters from Strange Fake, we should only take statements FROM Strange Fake.
@@aaravgaur7 Gilgamesh himself, tine, random mages etc. (And this is even when Alkeides is stated to be several times stronger due to Jack's np.) They all say this. Obviously biased? And why would that be. Having Gil as a servant suddenly makes her blind to the power of others? Pretty sure the narrator aswell at some point says that Gil has no trouble with Alkeides but don't quote me on that.
Please do say who puts them on the same level though.
If you're talking about beasts and grands or whatever who are explicitly stated to only be greater due to their heroic spirit being in a greater vessel then sure? First of all it's debatable whether they even are stronger than Gil (game feats and stuff) secondly it's irrelevant because the actual heroic spirits wouldn't be stronger than Gil and that's the only thing that matters. As far as I'm aware Alkeides isn't a grand so it makes no difference and Gil is still stronger via the heroic spirit statement. And no that's not just for stay night it explicitly says he is the strongest heroic spirit. If it said servant then you may have a point but heroic spirits always exist in the throne hence the statement includes all of them.
I don't see why an intertwined fictional universe such as fate has to be broken up at all actually. But again even just sticking with strange fake the evidence OVERWHELMINGLY suggests Gil is stronger than Alkeides.
Finally someone that have read strange fake and knew how alkeides isnt stronger than Gilgamesh like how ppl always proudly says. Dude was super buffed by jack np and still need to spam nine lives to match GoB spam, and gilgamesh was even about to test him with the more "Bullshit" side of Gob Treasury if its not for the plot demanding gilgamesh to stay as vegetable and doesn't start killing everyone else. Even before volume 5 alkeides have said himself to his master that gilgamesh is strong and how he doesnt fall to his bluff in their first fight. Pale rider i guess is very situational as the more fucked up their master perception of hell and apocalypse is, the more scarier and stronger it became
But here Gilgamesh stance was serious and despite the buff, Alcides is also feeling the constant pain from the Hydra Venom, isn't he.
Regardless, he's barely used any of his NP 🙃 so I still say him and Gil are in the same general class and either can win.
@@TB-to8uy gil has the upper hand tho
pandora box wont be able to copy ea since only a true king can wield it
@@yaboiplank6764 correction
it very much can _steal_ EA from gilgamesh, preventing him from using it. Which means his most surefire way of taking down Alcides would then be gone.
For the whole 'I don't need EA to take down alcides' statement
That's directly from gilgamesh (Or was it his master?, i forget). Both are exceedingly biased.
Gilgamesh also 'didn't need' EA for Shirou, he didn't 'need EA' for Artoria. He was proven wrong both times.
He has an arrogance issue and it always costs him. this time it won't because gil is the protag for once (unless he dies and enkidu wins the grail war, which would be an interesting role reversal).
@@blake3631 thats cool
gets myrodach instead. now what? gets blasted by excalibur jr and dies
@@blake3631 sorry, Excalibur sr
Good stuff right here, also when do they mention "the Spider" Type Mercury, I know Kishur and another Dead Apostole (without counting Jester) apear and probably know about it, but I'm curious about who and on what context did they mention the Ultimate One
Jester is trying to awaken the spider with the holy grail. Francesca says it too a couple of times.
As Guess said, Jester plans to awaken it
Zel and Alcatraz don’t like that, so they wish to stop it
That’s actually type ORT
Strange Fake needs an anime adaptation.
@@Dpjilips2 is it confirmed or just rumor
@@No-cc1fq Its been leaked by a trustworthy leaker on twitter.
Good news on 2022/12/31
@@shahrinnaim631 that 1 ep but then hopefully they announce a full series
@@Dpjilips2 it's just a 1 epsiode not full anime adaptation.
*And people here say you hate Gilgamesh the most*
Are they wrong?
@@guesswho8556 do u hate him??
@@gilgameshkingofheroes1319👁️
@@guesswho8556 are u Scottish by any chance
@@gilgameshkingofheroes1319 not that I know of. Why?
Sheesh most of these comments section is about everyone commenting about who's the strongest servant
Although it's true that Gil and Enkidu is probably the strongest as well as Alchides, doesn't mean they are truly strong
In grail war, anything can happen either fight face to face or sneak attack for those waiting for opportunity
The most important aspect in grail war is their master
Depending on how master command their servant, some of their affect can be affected
Example Rider medusa, before she was Shinji servant but she always got beaten even with the power of mystic eye because Shinji didn't fully supported her as all he does his standing around and command without giving her some magical supplies and then blame her for being weak
But when rider is with Shiro, she able to fight saber alter with full power thanks to Shiro fully supporting her and even defending rider from getting blast by Excalibur from saber alter when rider is preparing her NP
So the servant in FSF want to be powerful, they must have a strong teamwork with master and servant
Still these is my own opinion, no need to take so serious about these power scale servant
Who know if there's an even powerful servant than Gil,Enkidu and Alchides
What if Enkidu had a proper master
@@veoano6729 what if enkidu was a berserker?
Man, I just wanna see Alcides gets a good fight. The dude's berserker variant keeps on losing within all the stay night routes, and as a berserker characters fan, I'm really saddened. Atleast get him to last to the final 3, like c'mon!!
This version of him had forsaken God-hood and go back to use his real name - this is something that didn't happen in his original lore (which is why he's an alter). You can expect something in return. as of now, his Nemean lion's fur can nullify most of man-made weapons. He won't go down that easy.
@@bluebearie7230 well, I hope so. Dude's own origin is tragic as hell; and although this version of him is an alter ego, I hope he gets some spotlight.
@@nani458 Ooooh another one who knows his true origin and not some glorified Disney crap? come get some hugs bro!
@@bluebearie7230 man, we only have just a few left of our kind, everyone else have been taking that Disney Hercules bullshit and how badass the dude really was have been lost in the books of old. Soon, I'm sure we're going extinct 😭
@@nani458 We all must be registered for preservation 😭
I would personally put No Name assassin a little higher due to all of potential for i ta kills and her song in particular being able to stun servants but besides that great list
If she couldn't take down BASE Richard, she's not beating Hippolyta BUFFED by Goddess of War, let alone people like Ishtar or Jack
Only average level Servants would be affected by the song. So people like Astolfo
To be fair Richard came out of nowhere and she wasn’t using all of her masters mana, still you make good points
@@Surge-kk6ew During the LN, when Richard was summoned, he defended Ayaka from Assassin's attack, and then Assassin ran away to the back of the theater.
She then merged with the shadows and used Cursed Arm Zabaniya from behind Richard, but Rounds of Lionheart stopped it.
He then got to see her running around and commented that she's pretty fast, then Excalibur.
Assassin dodged it and got away. But even back then, Jester was watching, and said that she had a slim chance of victory, "Noble Phantasms excluded."
*He could say with certainty that there was something unusual about the Heroic Spirit who appeared to be Saber. As far as Assassin's Master was concerned, she only had a slim chance of victory. Noble Phantasms excluded*
If she uses her full arsenal at maximum potency, it's possible she could beat Richard, but getting to that point is the problem. All it takes is Richard using Excalibur and done.
He also survived a frontal attack from Gate of Babylon and was pierced in his limbs and stomach, while it was doubtful for Assassin to survive one weapon from GoB.
I'm not saying all this to discredit you, just adding more info to how they compare
Very Good List ! The edit and the Music kinda caught me off guard XD.
Thanks
What is the name of this song I really like it @@guesswho8556
@@maximilianhiekel7351 it's in the description
Ah yes, the Sigma male.
Sigma Rule #69420: Become a lancer.
@@nani458 Lancer died again!!!
I hope vol 7 comes out soon
Still the most broken Grail War...
I mean I don't blame you considering the ex tier and divinity like class people they summon. More like how does a grail summon so many high powered servant?
Conection to the Layline of earth….
I have a question.
Does Ozymandias in Camelot Singularity which posses the holy grail, is able to defeat Ishtar (Divine Spirit) that still have her own Gugalanna?
Or are they gonna end up in a stalemate?
A bit of unfortunate that Ishtar from Strange Fake timeline has stolen the Bull of Heaven from Ishtar of Grand Order timeline.
Gugalana would probably win since it has divinity which can bypass Ozy's temple
@@gogo_zeppeli3759 That's a good point honestly.
@@meremsolomon4744 adding the fact that it was a Servant Ozy then he would lose pretty horribly since it took Gil and Enkidu to kill even in their prime (alive) and it last for like years (7?) To actually do that
@@gogo_zeppeli3759
So in conclusion, the Camelot Singularity's Ozymandias who posses the Holy Grail aren't much of a trouble for Divine Spirit Ishtar that haven't lost her Gugalanna?
@@meremsolomon4744 bruh Divine spirits are like the worst opponent for Ozy Ishtar also had a lot of fire power to just blow it up from the inside and with Gugalana all of Ozy's beast will get trampled along with his temple
Welp, just one volume left…considering everything the next version of this list is going to be one heck of a doozy for the rankings.
Damn the music is epic
Thanks
Flat doesn’t even get an HM, but some 2000 year old rainbow wizard does? Okay.
Cuales 2.0 sucks. Let's be real
@@guesswho8556 Flat is a bazillion times more capable and stronger than caules
@@samukajabateh1640 no he is cuales 2.0
After what they did to Karna in Apocrypha, this is the kind adaptation that can cure my eye
What happened to Karna in apocrypha
Depending on reincarnation Pandora’s limits it could be the best NP in fate if it’s just a steal of any kind there definitely has to be limits or it’s just pride keep Alcides from taking the np
Maybe it’s touch based only which would limit it as he’d have to touch the servant he’s stealing from idk
He didn't steal Gate of Babylon, so there's clearly a limit. 1 at a time, touching and/or knowing its True Name are pretty likely conditions
@@guesswho8556 or there's not a limit like that and it's more a pride reason that he didn't take GOB we know until it finishes but i do think the touch or true name are likely the cases but if Alcides was trying to Goad Gil into bringing out EA then why wouldn't he know GOB with that assumption
@@bingobongo73 It's not due to pride. It's never stated Alcides has pride. If anything, he is constantly trying to provoke Gilgamesh to take him offguard. He even tells Jack he was really strong and that he was his match. No pride.
@@bingobongo73 The only time he stole a NP he was touching it, and had heard its True Name
@@guesswho8556 Pride wasn't the right word Alcides clearly shows his distaste in the Gods and wants to trample over them with the power of man so he may outright refuse to use a NP that's a gift from the God (EA being the exception) its still likely touch as alcides seems to have a NP that he believes can close the gap atleast in my mind
The 3rd labor which is about an impossibly fast deer of Artemis would likely be this NP he'd use to close the gap on Gil to take EA with Reincarnation Pandora though with him staving off the hydra venom I predict he'll succeed but succumb to wounds or something along those lines who knows when SF is gonna finish with Narita's health.
For anyone confused, the Pale Rider is Death
Pestilence*
@@ThisGodIsKirby1986 "I beheld a pale horse, and the pale man who rode atop him was Death, and Hell followed with him"
@@kaijukingofthemonsters1075 Literally the mask of the plague doctor: Bro what the fuck?
@@ThisGodIsKirby1986 my dude, look it up Pale Rider is another name for Death, just because he doesn't look like a scythe wielding Skeleton doesn't mean it isn't Death
And don't forget, the Tenth Plague is always said to be Death itself
@@kaijukingofthemonsters1075 Two apocalipse knight who mean death.
Plague and Death so 1 in 2?
Good list 👌
Thanks
My personal ranking:
10. Ishtar (Fighting on par with base Alcides and shit)
9. Jack (The whole clones and From Hell bullshit)
8. Hippolyta (Same as Ishtar but with more abilities)
7. Alcides (Ima get heat for this, but Reincarnation Pandora is by far his best asset, all his good winds and shit were compatibility)
6. Pale Rider (Made Alcides retreat)
5. Richard (He can spam EXCALIBUR, it's fucking EXCALIBUR SPAMMING, the guy does NOT get enough credit)
4. Enkidu (Equal to Gilgamesh)
3. Gilgamesh (Gave him the edge due to Ea having a higher DC)
2. Gugalanna (In myth required Enkidu AND Gilgamesh to take down)
1. Thia Escardos (Hax+crazy AP)
0. Manaka Sajyou (I have a personal theory about Ayaka in SF actually being Manaka that I don't wanna go into, but if that is correct she's obviously the strongest)
Nice, as usual
You didn't want include Master and magus with feats (Hansa, Jester, Flat, Orlando crew) ?
Yeah just "servants". Once strange fake is concluded we shall see
@@guesswho8556 OK 👍
Flat sleeps them all. It doesn’t matter
@@ahkillease4324 Flat is just Caules rip of
@@yamifoene7534 Nasu has literally stated that Caules is above the Root, so I don’t see the issue
Did they reveal who is True Assassin is? I haven't read it so I don't know full details yet.
I only heard few theories about this servant that he is one the early old men of the mountain because of the way he speak which is kinda similar to gramps.
True assassin is one of the hassan. That's all we know.
I didnt even know francois was a servant
you do now ;)
Well Francesca Peralti summon Francois Peralti in these grail war as her servant
So these prove both of them are servant
These probably the most shocked moment for me the fact a servant summon the same servant as itself with different gender
I like seeing Kischur Zelretch Schweinorg
Finally XD!
But they also mentioned Hassan I Sabah in anime
What's that supposed to mean?
Wow, another of your videos where you downplay Gil so much, he's obviously the stronger in FNF but you still ...
...
Wait
Truly
@@hikari34622 indeed
🍩👺
Cool list
Thanks
good list
do you know a scan site that goes beyond chap 28?
Just read the light novel lol.
Will Hercules ever not be in the 2nd or 3rd place? This is a character that everyone knows, and who has earned his full strength, but he is always in the background =)
Are you planning to update this??? Id like to see all characters rankings (till volume 8) and not just the servants
When strange fake ends
So, is the reason for Alceides not trying to steal GoB or Pale Riders NP or Enkidus NPs ever explained?
He likely needs to know the true name of the NPs or establish physical Contact with the owner.
@@guesswho8556 I doubt it has to do with contact if he wanted Gilgamesh to pull Ea out. It's mostly used as a ranged weapon from afar
They're probably just too complicated to copy. There's even implications that only Gil can use Ea so even that may not work.
So where would Hippolyta be at now because of her “master” reveal. Also where would Tia Escardo be at?
Volume 7 isn't translated kkk
@@guesswho8556 there’s rough translations out for volume 7.
@@yab2076 I don't care. I want the full translation. I don't base my opionion based on summaries kkk
Alcides got reincarnation pandora thanks to the corruption right? I don't remember right now if he was implied to have it since he was a legit archer.
He gained the NP after becoming an Avenger. Archer Herc only had God Hand and Nine Lives
@@guesswho8556 didn’t Archer have the nemean lions pelt?
@@mylem6234 no
@@guesswho8556 huh in the novel it was implied, was it due to translation issues?
@@mylem6234 I guess. The pelt is a NP provided by King's Order, and he didn't have any of those 12 NPs before losing God Hand.
I am little ignorant in fate strange fake,so I decide to take information about the servants but.... The pale rider??? He is one of the four horsemen?
Yes
@@guesswho8556 cool, I just can't wait the animated serie
Gil and Enkidu being at the Top is a no brainer. Both of them could've destroyed the Planet with their battle. And yeah, I don't believe Alcides can overpower Gilgamesh especially if he decides to use Ea.
They aren't planet level, and if gilgamesh used Ea alcides would simply steal it with reincarnation pandora.
@@guesswho8556 well, Gilgamesh is stronger than Buddha who was gonna cease an infinite number of Parallel Universes. He's definitely above Planet Level.
@@kenpachizaraki5237 wtf. No. Gilgamesh is not stronger than Buddha. Buddha could literaly kill Gilgamesh with a wave of his hand.
Buddha wasn't going to destroy "infinite parallel universes". Those were just worlds, and the number wasn't infinite. There aren't infinite timelines in fate.
It's literally stated that Gilgamesh isn't planet level.
@@guesswho8556 where was it Stated that Gilgamesh wasn't Planet Level??? Show me
@@kenpachizaraki5237 in shinjuku da vinci states that there's never been a NP powerful enough to destroy a planet, despite having seen Kingu and Gilgamesh use Enuma Elish against Tiamat.
And I seriously don't know where you got Gilgamesh is above Buddha. That's like saying krillin solos beerus, or spiderman solos super man prime 1 billion
so even concepts such as the 4 horsemen can be servants? is that "death" or "famine"? dont look like it could be "conquest" or "war"
A fusion between Death and Pestilence
Is it from the novel or the manga?
novel
Finally
Do u have any news when vol 7 comes out and whether is it the last one?
I don't know when the 7th volume will be published. The author was extremely sick and has also been working on other series.
And the 7th volume won't be the last. I believe he said that by volume 5 he had only covered 50% of the story.
@@guesswho8556 I have heard that someone say gillgamesh is the first servent who death after fight 3vs1 is that right???
At least Hippolyta should be above Jack. Also Alcides is stronger than Gilgamesh. He told his master that he can defeat Gilgamesh so long as he has access to enough mana which his master can provide.
No
@@guesswho8556 Cause your a Gil fanboy
@@Rodiacreed no, cause it's stated in volume 6 gilgamesh doesn't even need Ea to beat Alcides buffed by Jack's NP + Nine Lives. Alcides never said he could beat Gilgamesh either. You made that up.
@@guesswho8556 No Alcides told his Master that he called Gil weak to provoke him but though it would take a few days and thus require lots of mana he could eventually defeat him. Thats what he said.
Who said that Gilgamesh doesn't need Ea? Was it Tine? Her whole boring character is that she is a fangirl and we shouldn't take her words too seriously. She is endlessly fawning over Gil.
@@Rodiacreed quote alcides saying he would win. He never said that.
And not only Tine said it. Even after Gil almost died and everyone had seen Reincarnation Pandora and nine lives, it's stated by a bunch of Mages that enkidu is likely the only one that can rival Gil 1v1.
What if enkidu and gilgamesh teaming up
Talking serious, I hope this means in your next General top you will low even more Artoria. She was too hight on your top 60 version, even tho I love her I always feel she should been nowehere near Ozy tier servants, she just doesn't have any way to beat those. Gilgamesh is just too coky.
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What does strange fake have to do with artoria
While I think that Gil claps Artoria, she can theoretically beat someone like Karna.
Provided both have infinite mana, she can outdo everything he throws at her, by far, except for VS. Even with VS, she could likely offset it enough to survive, then he’s completely fucked.
Even without infinite mana: under a good master, like Rin, she can Excalibur at full power twice. I think he’d be forced to use VS to defend against the first Excalibur and he’s still fucked after that
@@ahkillease4324 I think he means with avalon
@@guesswho8556 with Avalon? EZ clap against Karna. Four Excalibur’s, at least.
She might possibly give Gil a problem, depending on his mana supply. Iirc, in Volume One of SF, those two Enuma Elishs put a big strain on Tine
Top ten. Fate strange fake servants… uh.!! Guys. There’s only 13 servants. Not a lot
When Fate/strange fake ends will you update the list?
Yes
@@guesswho8556 it's a good new, One question: Enkidu using the power of counterforce be comparable to the Archetype: Earth?
@@eletronfinale1866 no
Ishtar should be way higher lol
why
So what about ishtar with gugalanna, where would you place her in this list?
I think the answer is obvious
@@guesswho8556 Where?
@@aiki__wx it took alive gilgamesh + alive enkidu to fight gugalanna off
how many servants do we have in Fate Strange Fake? 1️⃣ servant for 1️⃣ class? or copy paste from Apocrypha servant format? I already stop counting after freaking Enkidu appear after Gilgamesh 🤯
⚔️ CLASS
Richard I
🏹 CLASS
Gilgamesh & Enkidu
✨ CLASS
Alexander Dumas
Francois Prelati
🐎 CLASS
Pale Rider
🌃 CLASS
Female Zabaniya
True Jack the Rippear
LANCER CLASS
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BERSERKER CLASS
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Hippolyta🤔 "rider" or "archer" class?
Ishtar without Gugalanna🤔 "archer" class?
Alcides🤔 "berserker" or "archer" class?
There are 13 servants. 2 of each class except saber which there is only 1. Ishtar isn't technically a servant in SF.
Jack is a berserker and enkidu a lancer
Alcides is an archer
Where is OG Beast Form Enkidu, It’s stated that he lose alot of his power after gaining intelligent and a humanoid body and weakend Enkidu = Gil
Yeah
this is pretty much accurate in term of fire power.
Gil how much you hate him, you cant argue he is the strongest because Enuma Elish
but due to the fact we have Pestilence the counter for Enkidu
Ishtar the counter for Gilgamesh,
Hydra Poison counter for Alkeides,
this make the character power scale balance.
also, we have so many random thing tjat are still not show from other servant like Watcher, Prelati, True Assasins.
this is just a random guess, Im pretty sure Prelati is the end game villain. while Sigma or Ayaka/richard gonna be the end game survivor
"Ishtar is the counter of Gilgamesh" Enkidu*
@@ThisGodIsKirby1986 Not really, Ishtar has the spare key to the gate of babylon, therefore can seal away all (or at least most) of gilgamesh's Noble Phantasms. And this Ishtar has the gugalanna, which literally ATE the biggest meteor of Thia Escardos, and to defeat this monster of Ishtar it was necessary the live gilgamesh + live enkidu. So ishtar is strange fake's strongest opponent with his gugalanna.
@@gabrieldejesuscardoso3211 Enkidu with the Counter Force: Hello there
@@ThisGodIsKirby1986 I understand your argument, the problem is that enkidu is a friend of gilgamesh, so the final result of the battle between enkudu and gilgamesh would be a draw (as it happened in the myth), however, ishtar in strange fake is very dangerous and intelligent, she invoked the gugalanna, and even managed to "tame" the true berserker.
This battle is not for Gil to play around again since true and fake servant are to op
Didn't read the novels(only manga) but lost my shit when I saw Heracles in Honorable mentions lol
I question, i got spoiler in vol 6 pale rider death and tsubaki summon ruler servant Qin shi huang is right or fake
Fake
@@miteigi8334 so pale rider not die
Hippolyta , it is on the same level as that of Richard I, perhaps a little lower
This is a wiki mention
Her Saint Graph, not all their abilities/arsenal
@@guesswho8556 what does “the higher/lower Saint graph” means ? It relates to stat or sth else? Can you explain it?
@@oxuanquyduong2056 Saint Graph is the servant container. The larger/higher ranked the Saint Graph is, the more power a servant can use. Measuring the Saint Graph of two servants helps determine who has more latent energy, but it doesn't automatically mean who would win. Alcides has an aura/presence equal to that of Gilgamesh, but he is nowhere near as strong as he is.
We all know ORT clap them all lol
some actually don't as crazy as it sounds
@@guesswho8556 well can't blame them if they didn't read other Nasu works besides Fate
i want to ask you if super Karna vs Gilgamesh, who will win?
Gilgamesh vs regular karna is a 50/50. And super karna is way beyond his regular counterpart
So when we getting an anime adaptation
For the begining of the next century
Ok but who wins in a fight Alcides or Saber Alter?
Alcides steals excalibur and gg
@@guesswho8556 Salter nukes him before he can and GG.
In all seriousness, we don’t know the exact conditions for Reincarnation Pandora. It could be that he needs physical contact for sufficient time to steal it, or that he doesn’t need physical contact at all and can just do it on a whim
@@ahkillease4324 against Jack, he had heard its true name and was making contact with the NP himself. We just don't know if that was just coincidence or if it's a set of conditions that must be met.
We must consider that alcides is likely more skilled than Artoria, so chances of him being left with no reaction time are low.
@@guesswho8556 he’s more skilled than Artoria, for sure, but that goes back to us not knowing what the conditions are
Does he need to touch them for long enough to transfer it?
Does he just need to touch them for any amount of time, thus establishing a link?
Does he need to touch them at all?
In the final two, he should be able to beat Salter (provided she doesn’t nuke him into oblivion first), but we just don’t know. That’s my only point
alcides seem to be a fan favorite in this channel but lets be honest gil is the dumbest character that should have never been made just for the sheer versatility and raw dps this dude brings out.
Said Gil is the wisest king that literally made humanity what they are today fanboys just saying Alcides is stronger than Gil despite being buff and can't even do shit against his GoB are people who hates Gilgamesh and want someone that can defeat him
@@gogo_zeppeli3759 Also the oldest hero, since The Epic of Gilgamesh is the oldest written stuff if i am not mistaken. I feel so sad for people who can't like good char like Gil.. but like shitty self inserts just cuz they are the main character😀
@@tgzny I hate people fanboying to CCC Gil more it's very annoying
@@tgzny I like the zero one as well and Casgil
@@gogo_zeppeli3759 wasn't CCC written by Nasu himself? what's wrong with Gil there?
So does the novel already end? If yes who wins the war?
it didn't end yet
Hmmm? Doesn't this Ishtar have gugalana? I thought this one had it and that's why the one in babylonia lost it
Volume 6
0:06
Please tell me where can I download Fate/Strange fake
I have links on my discord
Ishtar remember Kama 🤔
@Guess Who You than Zelrecth coupd beat some character of fate go live Morgan Zeus fused whit the gods, Chaos God, arijuna Karna ,three gods form , Gilgamesh, tiamat and goetia i know that their ability at a Little unknown for the Moment but what you think the can beat these characters
Hold up when was type mercury and zelrech in fate strange fake?
Volume 1
@@guesswho8556 Shouldn't type mercury be number 1 ?
@@milky8471 he was just mentioned. He didn't even appear
Wait moth man is in strange fake? I did not know that.
He is mentioned
Didn’t Lionheart shit on Gilgamesh? As well as Alcodes? I don’t believe the list. Specially the ties.
Richard didn't shit on anyone. He flat out states that he would barely stand any chance at beating Gil if they fought again, and he didn't win their first fight either. And he doesn't even know about Ea.
And Gilgamesh was simply fooling around against Alicdes during their first fight. In their 2nd fight Alicdes is buffed and Gilgamesh can still fight him and counter Nine Lives without using Ea. It's stated he doesn't need Ea against Alcides, and therefore there is no chance of Alcides stealing it.
Re-read Strange Fake dude
So....who is the exactly numbe one?
what do you mean? Number one is Enkidu and Gilgamesh. If you were asking who of them might have an edge against the other, then I would say gilgamesh. He is more versatile due to the fact that Gate of Babylon isnt restricted to just weapons, like Enkidus Age of Babylon. Also Gilgamesh got sha naqba imuru, which makes him nigh omniscient and he can see basically all outcomes that will happen in the future. If he wouldnt be so arrogant and uses it more often, he could win every holy grail war without even Gate of Babylon and Ea. Its such a broken ability. He knows every servant's name just by using sha naqba imuru, he knows their noble phantasm even if he dont have it, like in ubw battle against berserker. Even if he faces a opponent where he would only win 1 time out of 1000000, he could see with sha naqba imuru what he has to do to win.
Why was the Spider mentioned?
jester's plan is to awaken it with the holy grail
@@guesswho8556 wait what, will that even work and even if It does won't that thing just kinda obliterate everything on an even worst scale than the Angra Mainyu of the Grail in the original timeline, I wonder what his motivation for such a stupid desire may be, for though I know he hates humans, I thought he'd have at least some kind of self-preservation instincts or maybe he just doesn't know how dangerous It is or thinks he can control it
@@matierk637 some ppl just want to watch the world burn
Jester has a bad day
@@guesswho8556 I see. By the way, any news on 7th volume? Did they already released it?
Where can i read the LN?
In my discord server I have a link
Nah l still think pale rider should be stronger than enkidu and gilga,even they win mostly cause of the plot armor
What the title of the song
Check the description
@@guesswho8556 thankyou
@@guesswho8556 bytheway is Ricard ever mantion Saladin In Novel ? because the lastime i read he say that Saladin is cool guy some think like that
@@alifakmal4465 I have no idea what/who Saladin is
@@guesswho8556 He was the greatest Crusade enemy in second and Crusade war and he was Ricard Rival and the enemy that fail to defeat in thirt crusade war in Fate lore Ricard coorperate with Saladin that have and lead an army of Hassan Assasin in that time to kill undead apothell, Saladin have the world Sharppest and stronggest Blade and its name Damascus sword if i not wrong in the name
algorithm comment #22
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@@guesswho8556 what's up
@@Hansen_0101 nothing. Just trying to get what your comment meant
@@guesswho8556 oh lol
The more comments a vid gets the more it gets boosted in the algorithm or so I’ve heard
Why is hassan sabah so weak here?
I don't know. I didn't write Fate strange fake
He's not the real "First Hassan"
How they are gonna defeat ishtar? This one is far stronger than babylonia ishtar.
wow
Owo
Sigma? Who?
fake assassin is strong.
"The spider"
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Прости что пишу на русском
Почему Иштар выглядит по другому?
English pls
@@guesswho8556 Why does Ishtar look different?
And who defeated Alcides or Gilgamesh?
@@ШрэкИзРивии ishtar is not possessing Rin Tohsaka. She is possessing a homunculus.
@@guesswho8556
And who defeated Alcides or Gilgamesh?
@@ШрэкИзРивии who defeated who?
And True Assasins?
Featless
Where can I read volume 7 ? Any translation available?
no
@@guesswho8556 damn that sucks . Is there any team currently working on translating the latest volume
@@fightersroots3531 I think there are people at beast's lair working on it, but I fear they might have dropped the project. It's been months and we haven't gotten any news.
Lmao this guy's hate for alcides is almost palpable. He is much stronger than you think but stay in your bubble
Alcides tards in a nutshell. They just read the manga, and watched a few posts on instargram, and they think alcides is god. I guess that what the light novel has to say doesn't matter to them.
My man got taht ratio
Also why did this guy think alcides was stronger then gil anyways
Bruh What?
the truth is that Gilgamesh is on the same level as Alcides, he is no longer the strongest, Alcides proved that the gob is useless against him twice, one being fine and the other even though Alcides had stolen Jack's np, he lost it and was poisoned with it.poison of the hydra and still he continued fighting with Gilgamesh being healthy, stop his fanaticism for Gilgamesh now he is at the same level as Alcides and that Alcides is a nerfed version of Heraclespoison of the hydra and still he continued fighting with Gilgamesh being healthy, stop his fanaticism for Gilgamesh now he is at the same level as Alcides and that Alcides is a nerfed version of Heracles XD
Alcides wasn't weakened by hydra poison. He had used Chiron's immortality to revive himself and he was suppressing the pain with the black mud. He literally says it in volume 6. so no, he wasn't weakened in any way.
Alcides was even buffed by Jack the ripper's NPs, and Gilgamesh with just "hundreds" of NPs was blocking nine lives, even though he can use up to "thousands". And gilgamesh didn't even need to use Enuma Elish cause he was that much more powerful than alcides. They directly state it in the light novel.
Alcides isn't equal to Gilgamesh.
@@guesswho8556 Alcides came from several battles before.
And how is he not weakened?
Alcides has a few days to live before succumbing to pain.
Heracles wasn't even using his Nine Lives 100 arrow anti-fortress mode, he was just spamming his Nine lives 9 arrow anti-unity mode and the novel explicitly stated that he and Gilgamesh were on par.
You say that Gilgamesh did not occupy Enuma Elish and that is why they are not on par.
You have to be fair then.
Alcides also did not occupy the other 11 works of him nor Reincarnation Pandora.
And we are talking about a Gilgamesh without vanity and a Heracles Archer nerfed by the modification of his SG.
@@fluthlight7131 I'm talking about alcides vs gilgamesh. And don't say I'm not taking Reincarnation Pandora into account. IT IS DIRECTLY STATED that there is NO NEED for Gilgamesh to use Ea against Alcides, and that therefore, THERE IS NO RISK of it being stolen by Alcides.
It is never stated Alcides is using the Anti Unit version of Nine Lives and not the Anti Fortress one. He uses NINE Lives twice, once to block Gate of Babylon, and another one to attack Gilgamesh and kill him. When he used it to kill Gil, Gil simply prepared a random NP to block it and not Ea.
Alcides wasn't weakened either. He had just used Chiron's immortality to revive himself and the Black mud was suppressing the pain. He was also BUFFED by From Hell which made him SEVERAL TIMES more powerful than normal. And Gilgamesh still didn't need Ea against him.
There are still a few labors Alcides hasn't used, but as of now, he is nowhere near Gilgamesh level
Im seriously sick of gilgamesh always being the strongest in every damn work he is in, like ffs give us something new! I really hope that in the next volumes he gets beaten so bad fair and square that him being the strongest isnt applied to him any more, i know this has extremely low chances to happen but my gosh i want something new to happen!
Gilgamesh is not the strongest character in any series he is in, and he was already beaten in strange fake. He is currently unconscious and on the verge of death.
@@guesswho8556 maybe i should've said "the strongest servant", and yes he IS in every goddamn work he is in, he always gets beaten cuz he either is being arrogant or underestimating his opponent, or even both. this really needs to change imo.
i dont even wanna mention his incredibly annoying fanboys with their "if gil was serious" shenanigans.
@@xemnasmb8402 gilgamesh is not the strongest servant in CCC and Babylonia.
@@guesswho8556 Good to know, that changes it from every goddamn work, to most goddamn works he's in.
@@xemnasmb8402 he was serious when he fought in FSF but you can say he's just pretty unlucky and that's the reason why he's on the verge of death
Kkkkk patetic video
@@Mikoto0710 ???
Everyone>>Gil
Good list!
Lmao this guy's hate for alcides is almost palpable. He is much stronger than you think but stay in your bubble
It's what happens when you read the light novel. It is directly stated Gilgamesh doesn't need Ea to beat Alcides
Perhaps you should read it too
@@guesswho8556 what would Ea do against alcides? Its around the same power as Excalibur from fate zero. Also alcides can do Pandora to copy Ea hence gilgamesh thinks its better not to use Ea.
@@skychieftain don't ask me what would Ea do when I already said he does not need it. During Alcides vs Gilgamesh round 2, Alcides was BUFFED by Jack the Ripper's NP, which he had just stolen. Despite that NP making Alcides' mana "SEVERAL TIMES STRONGER" and Alcides also using Nine Lives, Gilgamesh with just hundreds of NPs from GoB was pushing him back. This is despite Gilgamesh having thrown thousands of arrows during their first fight, but here, he just needs hundreds against a much stronger Alcides. The narrator says it is because he is no longer throwing NPs at random, but that he is now actually trying to kill Alcides through the gaps in the pelt. Despite having seen Reincarnation Pandora, Nine Lives, and From Hell, everyone was convinced Gilgamesh would win. Just read strange fake, cause you are saying nonsense that's contradicted by the source material.
The narrator also believes alcides has no other choice but to run away the moment pale rider appears, but Gilgamesh has stated on 2 occasions that he could kill pale rider with 1 swing of Ea.
Gilgamesh (Full Arsenal) > Pale Rider > Gilgamesh (Gae of Babylon) >= Alcides (Nine Lives + Jack's NP + Pelt of the nemean lion)
@@guesswho8556 read what you wrote again. Alcides was pushed back because gilgamesh was using GoB on those areas that aren't covered by the pelt. In other words, he's exploiting loopholes in Alcides. That doesnt say much about alcides being stronger or weaker. Its that gilgamesh is getting serious but still fails to kill him. Nobody cares what the others think regarding a battle between the servants. If gilgamesh couldn't kill Alcides even though he wanted to, then he ain't crap. Plus alcides hasn't revealed many of his NPs yet. He doesn't need them against Gilgamesh.
Like I said, if you can't defend the statements, stay in your bubble
Lmao this guy's hate for alcides is almost palpable. He is much stronger than you think but stay in your bubble
you too? It's treason then