Very interesting panel. Thanks everyone for sharing your important knowledge. I know we would all like this process in Australian to be easy and successful, but as you all point out it’s challenging but not impossible ❤
Our sweet, sweet torsten. Many of the entheogen forums all over the globe, have shrunk or many of them died. It almost looks like humanity is falling away from entheogens - which is terrifying to me. There are great teachings we need to bring into this world, from our understand of them. Please keep shamanis australis going, you are like the protector of one of the last crossroads, where our last survivors find their kin :D
Something to meditate on: as opposed to cultural/legislative grounds, could prodrugs be an avenue? Prodrugs need to be metabolised (think Vyvance vs Dextroamphetamine). Triptans (stereoisomers of DMT) are important anti-migraine medications. Could we pit government vs pharmaceutical companies with deep pockets by designing prodrugs analogous to DMT? (I'm missing the very important part where we can derive DMT qualities from the prodrug for regular health reasons, that it isn't destroyed by the GI tract ((i.e. it'll require harmala alkaloids)) and it doesn't get scheduled due to these qualities...have fun!)
The laws concerning the use of psychoactive substances in Australia do not make logical sense. Alcohol is often considered different from drugs, eg, the frequent use of the phrase "alcohol and drugs." Alcohol is a drug and a very dangerous one that has directly and indirectly caused the deaths of thousands of people. Alcohol has been involved in car accident deaths, domestic violence deaths, pub brawl deaths etc etc. It also has a lethal dose limit (LD50) due to the fact of alcohol poisoning deaths, yet this drug is perfectly legal, and even part of Australian culture. Nicotine is also a drug that has been indirectly involved in deaths caused by cigarette smoking, leading to lung cancer. On the other hand entheogenic drugs such as DMT/Ayahuasca, LSD, Marijuana and Psilocybin do not have a lethal limit yet they are banned even though they do not have a LD50 and are associated with spiritual or religious experiences, personal insights and both physical and psychological healing. There are numerous mushrooms that are lethally poisonous but they remain legal. Psilocybin containing mushrooms are not poisonous, yet they are illegal. Also should governments have the right to play God and ban living things such as mushrooms and marijuana?The laws need to be changed because these psychoactive entheogens will, without doubt, bring about a more peaceful, healthy and mentally stable society. These entheogens should only be made available to those who are 18yrs and older and have consulted with an entheogen specialised psychiatrist.
Really good panel. Amar Dhall is an excellent speaker.
Very interesting panel. Thanks everyone for sharing your important knowledge. I know we would all like this process in Australian to be easy and successful, but as you all point out it’s challenging but not impossible ❤
interesting discussion
Our sweet, sweet torsten. Many of the entheogen forums all over the globe, have shrunk or many of them died. It almost looks like humanity is falling away from entheogens - which is terrifying to me. There are great teachings we need to bring into this world, from our understand of them. Please keep shamanis australis going, you are like the protector of one of the last crossroads, where our last survivors find their kin :D
Something to meditate on: as opposed to cultural/legislative grounds, could prodrugs be an avenue? Prodrugs need to be metabolised (think Vyvance vs Dextroamphetamine). Triptans (stereoisomers of DMT) are important anti-migraine medications. Could we pit government vs pharmaceutical companies with deep pockets by designing prodrugs analogous to DMT? (I'm missing the very important part where we can derive DMT qualities from the prodrug for regular health reasons, that it isn't destroyed by the GI tract ((i.e. it'll require harmala alkaloids)) and it doesn't get scheduled due to these qualities...have fun!)
The laws concerning the use of psychoactive substances in Australia do not make logical sense. Alcohol is often considered different from drugs, eg, the frequent use of the phrase "alcohol and drugs." Alcohol is a drug and a very dangerous one that has directly and indirectly caused the deaths of thousands of people. Alcohol has been involved in car accident deaths, domestic violence deaths, pub brawl deaths etc etc. It also has a lethal dose limit (LD50) due to the fact of alcohol poisoning deaths, yet this drug is perfectly legal, and even part of Australian culture. Nicotine is also a drug that has been indirectly involved in deaths caused by cigarette smoking, leading to lung cancer. On the other hand entheogenic drugs such as DMT/Ayahuasca, LSD, Marijuana and Psilocybin do not have a lethal limit yet they are banned even though they do not have a LD50 and are associated with spiritual or religious experiences, personal insights and both physical and psychological healing. There are numerous mushrooms that are lethally poisonous but they remain legal. Psilocybin containing mushrooms are not poisonous, yet they are illegal. Also should governments have the right to play God and ban living things such as mushrooms and marijuana?The laws need to be changed because these psychoactive entheogens will, without doubt, bring about a more peaceful, healthy and mentally stable society. These entheogens should only be made available to those who are 18yrs and older and have consulted with an entheogen specialised psychiatrist.