New Zealand Takes Swift Action On Gun Laws After Massacre | Velshi & Ruhle | MSNBC
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- The Prime Minister in New Zealand took swift and decisive action on gun control in less than a week after the mosque massacre that killed 50 people. Ali Velshi and Stephanie Ruhle are joined by Executive Director at the Giffords Law Center, Robyn Thomas, to discuss the country’s new plan to ensure it never happens again in that country and the state of things in the U.S.
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New Zealand Takes Swift Action On Gun Laws After Massacre | Velshi & Ruhle | MSNBC
Having read through most of the comments below I really am surprised at how ignorant some Americans are about the rest of the world. In NZ only 5% of the population own guns and the other 95% don't want or need them. Yes you have your 2nd Amendment and it is way out of date but you will NEVER change and NZ will NEVER be like the US. We speak the same language but that is where the similarities end
Yes 👍!
Well said.
@Mark Engel Don't worry. You will change him when you have a chance, and Canada will be back to where you want it
Freedom is never out of date. People in power abusing others is never out of date
That a product of where you live which is a farcry of the u.s.
We may be small, but hopefully from this tragedy we can help create some positive change on a global scale. Proud to be a kiwi in our little corner of the world. Thanks for all the support 🇳🇿🍻
Sorry brother but I hope the disease of cowardice and thoughtlessness does not spread to the rest of the world God for bid America keep it to yourselves Keewee’s
"We may be small, but hopefully from this tragedy we can help create some positive change on a global scale. Proud to be a kiwi in our little corner of the world."
All it does is send the message:
"Commit a massacre here and you can influence our laws because we are afraid."
The terrorist won. Congratulations.
@@1911GreaterThanALL Then please explain how, when laws remain unchanged (thanks to overwhelming _influence_ by gun lobbyists) in the US, massacres continue to happen almost every day? With support from the NRA and lawmakers, it looks like terrorists continue to win in America.
@@michaelbonade4667 If I have to wave any gun around to make me feel brave I would not be me. If wanting to not have the killing rate that the US enjoys is a disease, I don't want to be cured.
i hope the idea of banning guns spreads, im american and im proud of New Zealand
I can't speak on behalf of America but here in New Zealand, we simply don't need guns, especially semi-automatics or rifles.
lol
Laura Voyce - Your government is not telling you the truth, that banning guns will cause you to have more murders, rapes and robberies. Right now all homes in New Zealand are being protected from invasion by criminals with a fear of death deterrent that the guns provide. The criminals don't know which homes have guns, so most avoid invading all homes. Once the criminals know that all homes are gun free zones, get ready to see a home invasion epidemic, because if you look at statistics of countries after gun control, it shows home invasion murders, rapes, and robberies increase. Australia is the latest country to discover this fact, and now they have an epidemic of home invasions by APEX gangs. Brazil banned all gun ownership and their home invasions also became an epidemic, and it caused their murders and rapes to double. The new leader of Brazil and its government have finally realized the failures of gun control and are promising to give the people their guns back. IF I lived in New Zealand, I'd be putting bars on my windows and getting some steel doors, because you are gonna need it if they ban guns.
@@guncontrolisusingbothhands2331 worry bout your own country & we'll look after ours,
@@guncontrolisusingbothhands2331 "Right now all homes in New Zealand are being protected from invasion by criminals with a fear of death deterrent that the guns provide."
Then why does the mast armed nation on earth have worse crime if guns are such a good deterrent?
"it shows home invasion murders, rapes, and robberies increase. Australia is the latest country to discover this fact"
Lol no, who told you that crap? :D
I honestly hope you experience a home invasion within the next week. I hope you’re in tears on the floor.
We may be small but New Zealand is one of the safest countries in the world
That’s true, but some Americans and other people from other countries don’t like our stuff, our Prime Minister and what we do compared to America, like when I see an American news channel is on New Zealand you just know there’s gonna be some hate comments
@@christopherrodmell1694 yeah true
I’ve seen comments like “Jacinda Ardern is a bad Prime Minister” and “Jacinda is weak” let’s just dab on all them haters because they see we are safe because of her, and the US lots of people are blaming Trump for the virus gotten so bad there
@@christopherrodmell1694 they are probably just Jealous of Jacinda
They more than likely are incredibly jealous of her, like apart from her in person you do realise that her eliminating the virus from our country in only 6 weeks has been seen from all over the world, and then a lot of them people still have to put up with their leader.
So you know there’s gonna be hate comments everywhere, and also comments about them wishing they had a leader like Jacinda
Thanks prime minister for showing the world and America over all how to take actions on gun law. See and learned something America.AMERICA IS FULL OF THOUGHTS AND PRAYERS! SHAME ON YOU AMERICA!!!!!!
Wow you must really hate religious people.
I think the NRA's attempts to interfere in New Zealand may have actually motivated the New Zealand government to speed up the announcement of the ban. Their attempts went down like cold sick with most people here.
Did they try?????
"I think the NRA's attempts to interfere in New Zealand may have actually motivated the New Zealand government to speed up the announcement of the ban. Their attempts went down like cold sick with most people here."
What are these so called attempts?
Source? You’re a liar with no source.
@@neddelley8766 Oh yes. They certainly did. www.newshub.co.nz/home/new-zealand/2019/03/national-rifle-association-in-the-us-offers-to-help-nz-gun-owners.html Lots of BS and abuse on social media too actually.
@@jasondaniels5640, thanks you bet me to it. : )
Glad this is getting coverage in america
"Glad this is getting coverage in america"
It just tells me NZ is ruled by terrorists. They've won. You changed politically over terrorism. You are scared and that is what they like. More terrorism will happen. There will be copy cats and more people will die and your politics will be shaped this.
Stop being weak.
It will have been 20 years since Columbine, a full generation, with nothing but more of the same, and worse. But profit rules here.
Bernie 2020!
Profit or constitutional rights? 😂
@@bondcast3630 a well regulated militia
Angry Bushnell Pretty sure there was a judicial decision on this already, nice try though “the right of the people to keep and bare arms”
@@bondcast3630 it does not specify what arms, no ordinary citizen needs military grade weapons. You want military grade, join the military;)
I strongly admire the swift action that has been taken here. While I personally think banning assault rifles outright should be a no-brainer everywhere in the world (I'm extremely anti-gun, ymmv), it's still great they see that they were able to come to such quick action in a matter of days. That's how it should be done. A rare sight indeed.
"I strongly admire the swift action that has been taken here. While I personally think banning assault rifles outright should be a no-brainer everywhere in the world (I'm extremely anti-gun, ymmv), it's still great they see that they were able to come to such quick action in a matter of days. That's how it should be done. A rare sight indeed."
It wouldn't do much even assuming a gun ban would be 100% effective (which historically here that is laughable). The vast majority of gun crime here is carried out with handguns not long guns of any description. They would be addressing less than 2% of gun crime.
Please do your research and stop basing your opinion on looks of the gun because you don't like guns. All it does is provide greater division because we gun people will not take you seriously and you will not change minds because we know for a fact you are completely ignorant on the subject. This is partially why crime isn't being handled properly. Lack of knowledge which then brings on in-fighting.
@@1911GreaterThanALL I (sort of?) agree with you, banning assuault rifles is obviously only a small measure. I think it should be obvious based on my comment that I support much stronger reduction in the ability to obtain and carry all firearms. However, that actually wasn't my point. My point was primarily to express admiration because of how fast they acted, regardless of what the legislation actually entails. It's not often than you any government move this quickly on any subject, and it's especially nice when contrasted to the general apathy on Capitol Hill.
@Great Heathen Army Yep...... 50 people praying all were suicides.
NZ is right. there is absolutely no reason for any law-abiding citizen to own an assault rifle. and i would support such legislation and elected officials that support such legislation.
NO Reason? NONE? Not one reason? Really?
Malo periculosam, libertatem quam quietam servitutem.
There is an absolute reason ! To have enough firepower available . When a small army of thugs breaks in my house .. and another good reason .. Protection from a tyrannical government ..
@@BielichDai your latin needs work.
deep6this deep6this. Owning weapons has always been forbidden in Sweden, unless you are a hunter. Other kinds of guns not allowed. America is still like the old Wild West.
This is what happens when you elect a young, progressive leader not bought and paid for by corporate donors... swift, decisive and necessary action.
"This is what happens when you elect a young, progressive leader not bought and paid for by corporate donors... swift, decisive and necessary action."
Is that supposed to be an endorsement for AOC and Bernie? You know how much both of them have been paid by corporate sponsors?
1911GreaterThanALL, I would agree with you. 1911 is the smoothest and most accurate pistol I have ever used. Nice taste
Jeff Abbott question. Where is this “progressive” attitude going? What is the legal and political destination?
Why would you support the agenda of the terrorist? you know this is exactly what he wanted, right? or did you not bother to read what he wrote about why he did this? oh wait, i forgot, your young progressive leader made it illegal for you to read the document. carry on with your eyes closed I guess. at least you seem to enjoy your chains.
@@1911GreaterThanALL Why do you have to wander into politics when your argument is weak/ This is about gun control, not you stupid politics.
An assault rifle means a rifle which can switch between semi-automatic and full-automatic fire modes, and is used very little in the actual purchase of a firearm
Why don't you give the statistic that majority of the children that end up getting hurt by guns are people who illegally owned those guns
Good for them! I love how they took swift action. Every time we have to face a mass murder nothing and I mean nothing gets done and it continues to happen!!!!!
See in the US we have a thing called the constitution, you can’t just change laws on a reactionary whim. Actually, our constitution and government is the reason NZ and Australia are still speaking English. If it weren’t for the greatest generation ever (and their guns), they’d be eating sushi every night.
"Good for them! I love how they took swift action. Every time we have to face a mass murder nothing and I mean nothing gets done and it continues to happen!!!!!"
Yea I hate gun free zones too. I hate it when I can't do anything against the mass shooter. Nothing gets done and the shooters continue to exploit the weakness in unarmed people. The shooter in NZ was certainty far more effective with no one to challenge him.
The same countries have followed the US into the Afghan conflict, Iraq war and the Vietnam war to name a few. All wars that were fought to benefit the US. Meanwhile the Japanese got one submarine into a Sydney Harbour. Pretty well miles away from owning our country, but yep never get the truth get in the way of a good story I guess. Even if it means dishonouring ANZAC soldiers that lost their lives fighting under US leadership.Dickhead.
Well I’m glad that I don’t live in the US then, NZ may be really small Americans can laugh at us for what we do but considering America has badly suffered with Covid 19 and over the years with a heap of big crime commitment and we definitely haven’t like America...... And I bet American schools are studying our country especially our response to Covid 19
Christopher Rodmell I love where you live. We are very nutty here, if you couldn’t tell.☹️
By the governments criteria of mass shooting, any shooting in which has 4 or more deaths, only 28 mass shootings happend in 2018. Many of those 340 "mass shootings" didnt have a death.
“Only 28 mass shootings in 2018”? Why would that be something to PRAISE. Why is America still ruled by guns in 2019? Insanity may the answer.
Didn’t realize how many anti Americans were here
To be fair. Anti American sentiment is pretty much everywhere where US posters spread their insane counter logic, counter evidence view on guns. Just because Americans have been conned that somehow giving access to weapons that can cause massive damage to all citizens makes them 'free' due to their own gulability doesnt mean the rest of the world should have to put up with their stupidity. If gun laws dont work on countries with functioning and not corrupt invested police forces then why is it the rate of deaths per capita from guns is thirty times higher over a decade compared to Australia, which has a ban on automatic weapons. In Australia we also havent had a mass shooting since 1996. Banning automatic weapons works and has proven to work in all countries that arent overun by poverty. Anyone stop to think for a second why the evil, disgusting psychopath opted to go to New Zealand? Its pretty obvious he couldnt obtain a weapon that could cause that amount of damage due to Australia's gun laws. New Zealand and their citizens are wonderful. The change in laws only makes them safer. Which is obvious to anyone who hasnt been brainwashed by an evil movement.
Damien Hamilton Automatic weapons are already banned in the US for pretty much everybody except those with a certain license that is very hard to get. Freedom is the government not telling me what I can and can’t own because of the actions of a few. The role of government is to safeguard the rights of people, not take them away as a knee jerk response to tragedy. Throw around your insults as much as you want, you’re not convincing anybody except your echo-chamber of feeble-minded government dependents.
Gun ownership in USA has historical roots unlike in Aus/NZ. One cannot simply bring in legislation and prohibit guns in the US. That's futile. I have lived both in the United States and Australia so I understand this debate better than most people here. However, in Australia/NZ the thinking is also very different about guns among the majority. People here see the greater good for society than an individual's right to bear a weapon. Also, these two countries don't have porous borders where illegal weapons can pour in. Australia/NZ are very different to the US. We are talking chalk and cheese here.
Should be pointed out it passed with almost universal support too. Only one sitting MP (David Seymour of Act) opposed it. Every other MP of every party supported it.
Imagine is republicans and democrats ever worked together like that?
Someone give this David Seymour a medal. The only smart MP in new zealand
He didn't oppose it, he just said slow down. He was rightly ignored.
@@JamarfromAfar First we would have to give him a chest to pin it on.
Fairlight - If the majority wants to pass hate speech laws, criminalizing speech in NZ and abolish your freedom of speech protections, are you okay with this? You need to abandon this democracy crap, and copy the US which is a constitutional republic. This way a tyrannical majority can't take your rights to free speech and freedom to own guns.
@@guncontrolisusingbothhands2331 "abandon democracy for a constitutiinal Republic and copy America?" Lol no thanks. When exactly did America abandon democracy? Was it when you anointed the orange weirdo as potus. Here's an idea for you, any time you want to share a thought in the future, give yourself an uppercut first. Your comment has no basis in fact. None.
AND.. it wont stop criminals from getting those guns. Australia has seen a huge surge of banned guns coming into their country, by gangs, in the past 10 years. They actually have MORE guns today, than prior to the 1996 bans.
My.... this will trigger the gun junkies in the Unites States of Hysteria
Have fun with tyranny
@@sebastienholmes548 No no, I 'm fine, I don't live in the conspiracy capitol of the world, nor have we had a 'January 6th' moment here.
@@BettyBettyBoBetty in 8 months conspiracy theory becomes fact.
@@sebastienholmes548 Well, there's 'your' facts - then there's reality
@@BettyBettyBoBetty your country has Covid camps, police beating protesters, and people arrested for social media posts.
I'm glad NZ is doing this, America could follow their lead if our country wasn't being run by corrupt money hungry crooks.
How much good has gun control done for crime in democrat areas?
You leftists love shooting yourself in the head & blaming everyone else for your own stupidity.
Wake up & come back down to planet reality.
"I'm glad NZ is doing this, America could follow their lead if our country wasn't being run by corrupt money hungry crooks.
"
People vote with their feet. If people truly viewed any other country as superior then they would simply move there. They would put up with all the regulations required and then simply move there. Yet this isn't the case.
Or if America has a drastically different legal system where this govt action is legal
Yes, you leftist would cream your organic hemp woven shorts at your facist politicians banning a right. We know.
Todd's - We have a 2nd amendment and the supreme court will not let them ban our guns. The founding fathers said in the constitution that you cannot abolish or infringe upon any of the 1st ten amendments that are called the bill of rights. Whether you like guns or not, you are stuck with them. The only other option you have is to grab your knee pads and head to one of the queens commonwealths.
good move NZ PM , had it happeneded in US, NRA would have been crying like a small baby
reaperipmc people like you have already killed so many Americans, blood is in your hands, you coward
@Jack Mac No I wont because I believe in the government, I am not afraid of the government, I dont believe that our govrnment will not become tyranny , I believe in law enforcement
Jack Mac that's democracy my friend, do you believe in US government? if not then why did you asked me to leave ?
Simple and easy!!! It happens quickly when someone truly cares about safety of its own people. Great job PM!
Should work better than thoughts and prayers.
Ain't that the truth.
Glenn B brilliant!!!! Mock prayers about a tragedy that happened to a group of people who where literally praying. You should pray for a brain!
Thoughts and prayers are sham.
@@rmprmp2813 You should pray to get an understanding of sarcasm...
Glenn B so you’re saying the ban is bad? Because that’s the only way your statement could be considered sarcastic.
she states that its amazing that New Zealand government immediately took action on gun control after the mass shooting. it isnt amazing. its just what normal countries governments do. Its only amazing to the people whose governments refuse to take action when its called for because of political ideology and financing by gun lobbying groups. the 2nd amendment reads 'A well-regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.' What militia are you part of?
I agree it isn't amazing. It is what can be done with that much unilateral power. Fortunately for us U.S. citizens the governments powers are well kept in check with the Constitution
@@Okidata29 The New Zealand Parliament passed the legislation, not Jacinda Ardern. its called effective bipartisan parliamentary democracy. You should try it one day, it works.
@@NiennaT "The New Zealand Parliament passed the legislation, not Jacinda Ardern. its called effective bipartisan parliamentary democracy. You should try it one day, it works."
New Zealand people are united in their beliefs. American view points are more varied. Hard to unite when people think differently.
@@1911GreaterThanALL People have different and someimes diametrically opposed political views all around the world, including New Zealand. But both sides are capable of acting in a bipartisan way to pass legislation that is in the interest of the peoples of their countries. This is true of America too. It happens every day, but you will NEVER see the mainstream media report this, it isn't viewed as newsworthy. People arguing and endless political conflict is deemed newsworthy. That is why i watch 'alternate media'.
Nienna - So you think it's amazing for the NZ government to punish 4.7 million people and take their freedom to own guns over the act of one criminal?
why isn't he using FBI statistics also FYI the AR15 is the civilian version of the m16 which is by true definition an assault rifle you need full auto to be an assault weapon.
@Jack Mac The US Military, DOD, FBI/ATF, and State Department, have all declared that the AR15 "are not weapons of war"... contrary to liberal talking points!
@@RFT4711 I'd do that without question. Because it's the truth. And anyone trying to use emotional manipulation in order to get others to stop thinking logically (for example: YOU) are a prime example of slimy, manipulative dumbasses.
@@RFT4711 I'd tell them that and smile
Rasmus Finn you cant argue facts with feelings
@@joecrowell8841 That's the Way Liberal nut's do it. Emotions over Facts always. They been after Trump ever since he was put in and Mueller was going to get him, Facts Not Happening, So now they say he's not reliable, So now their tears are BIGGER
That’s amazing that the news kinda forgot to talk about the 340 mass shootings
muh queen took muh guns
Why is the focus on banning AR-15s? Its literally just a bigger version of single-shot, semi-automatic, handguns which many people possess for self-defense.
Those were banned many years ago. You are showing your ignorence jughead.
Only place for Semi's is in the armed forces - our cows and horses are not that big
And why should we trust the government in having all the firepower?
And this is how we got everyone to stop doing drugs right guys !!!!
What's your problem mouth breather.
Let me guess, when the queen banned your guns she didn't ban your knee pads.
Jack Johnson 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Let me guess, when the tyrant government comes for you with drones, tanks, smart bombs and troops your going to wave your AR-15 at them. Good luck with that.
Ned Delley - Let me guess, you can't take a joke.
Ned Delley - Let me guess, you never studied US history. Our founding fathers defeated a British Army that had cannons, ships and other advanced weapons, and they defeated them by overwhelming them with mass numbers of civilians, armed with only muskets.
@@JohnPitt920 Let me guess, you are a joke.
in USA , it's all about benjamins baby ,and everything else is just window dressing
As long as they ban "military style" weapons for the Govt' and police as well , it will be a shared loss of rights.
"As long as they ban "military style" weapons for the Govt' and police as well , it will be a shared loss of rights."
What would that do? Make your military weaker right? Are they going to fend off another countries with lever action cowboy shooting guns?
@@1911GreaterThanALL It's already pretty weak.😄
Who would have tought New Zealand would be the next great influence in the world. Its nice to see a government that ACTUALLY WORKS.
Random Dude posting you mean a government that steals firearms from the people?
Your Confused: Gun statistics prove you wrong EVERY Time: Why is it that EVERY important Person, Place or Thing of Importance is PERTECTED with GUNS ?????????????????
Why is it that the Police Arrive AFTER any Attack WITH THIER GUNS ??? When you or a loved one are attacked I bet the World U will SCREEM in Panic and the Next DAY
become (to late) a GUN OWNER ! I Speak from Experience ! Get The FACTS }} watch youtube: The Daily Wire ( Ben Shapiro )
@@EarthenBrown if u dont have a permit or you are not qualified to own a gun then yeah go ahead and take those guns government at least that government is looking out for there lives and not there next bribery pay check by the NRA. So next time someone is doing another mass shooting jump in front of those bullets and tell your shooter you fought for his gun rights while he shoots you in the face.
Minus the fact they are taking guns from everyone. They don't care if you have a permit or not. So try again.
"Who would have tought New Zealand would be the next great influence in the world."
Yes a true great influence. Cow towing to the political will of a terrorist. He said he wanted more gun control to destabilize countries. People who like guns will be driven under ground and radicalized further. More shootings will come it just takes time.
My prediction is that stabbing rates will go up in New Zealand.
Statistics say you're right
Americans have a constitutionally protected right to own firearms. New Zealand does not!
Americans have a constitutionally protected right to self defense with a firearm. New Zealand does not!
The lawlessness of a few people should NEVER negate the constitutionally protected rights of the many! I watched the video of the shooting in New Zealand and there were several opportunities where had some of those people would have been armed they could have saved lives and stopped the shooter with in seconds.
nz is not the wild west like the usa - our police dont carry guns - rather live in free safe nz than the wild west of the usa
@@bodybalanceU2
You have watched too many Hollywood westerns if you actually think the US is the wild west. The majority of gun related deaths here are suicides, followed by gang/drug related.
The victims of the Mosque shooting died needlessly because they had no right to defend themselves.
Get money out of your politics and the people may have a chance.
@MR. Right stopping 40,000 shooting deaths a year, maybe?
@SAMURAI 武士 chance of building a tyranny.
Why doesn't she ban murder? The criminals don't care about the ban but law abiding citizens are unarmed. How many people are killed by car violence?
You are so smart. Bet you graduated from elementary school by the time you were 16.
Plenty are killed by vehicle violence. That is why there is why there is vehicle licencing, driver licencing and demanding driver skill tests required before the issue of said licence. There is also strict vehicle safety requirements and annual testing to ensure the vehicle is safe to be on the road and seat belts by law must be worn. Wow what an idea, to ensure machines that can cause death and mayhem to the innocent are heavily controlled.
ronin - I strongly suspect murder is banned, correct me if I am wrong.
@@bigsexxy1 yep the good old argument of only guns protect against guns. We prefer that only intelligence can protect against idiocy.
@@bigsexxy1 - An argument that is totally discredited argument by the facts. In countries with low gun ownership is the population under siege from a small number of gun owners. The answer is a very clear no. If a villain is going to do a job, and they think their victim will be armed with a gun, then they will have a gun as well. How many people are there in American jails who have committed firearm offenses while doing a job. A massive number. Having guns on general sale actually makes people less safe, as the figures in the video show, especially for the police who are armed. More police are killed in one month in the US than have ever been killed in the UK.
Even ISIS cannot get assault rifles in the UK, and are reduced to attacking with cars and knives. That is your protection.
So in answer to your question how to protect yourself from someone with an assault rifle, the answer is you make it impossible for them to get a firearm in the first place.
How do you stop massacres, don't sell the tools of the trade that make massacres possible. Quite simple really.
Hi from New Zealand,
Live by the sword, die by the sword. Amen.
You disarm the public, it's like opening the sheep's pasture gate and ringing the dinner bell for the wolves. You want to deny that, go ahead.
@@0570965 we don't have wolves in NZ that's why we have the biggest sheep population in the world
@@298TKO LOL, perfect
@@stachyslamb4894 if he knew anything about NZ he shouldn't use a sheep analogy
@@298TKO yep...
Fix the why, not the how.
The why is far more complicated...meanwhile.
@@mikeyfiftythree6237 just because it's complicated doesn't mean you should blame something else.
“The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting a different result”-Albert Einstein. We banned guns in Chicago, we banned guns in Australia. Violent crime still went up so this time it’s gonna be different how?
"We banned guns in Chicago"
And the homicide rate dropped sharply. It's going back up since they repealed some of the laws.
"we banned guns in Australia. Violent crime still went up"
Who told you that rubbish? For starters, guns aren't banned in Australia. Secondly, the homicide rate nearly halved.
@@ratofvengence every thing you just said is factually false. Stop lying.
@@corneredfox "The homicide rate in Australia began declining years before Port Arthur."
Your statements need context. The homicide rate was stable (fluctuated only 0.3/100,000 from the late 80's all the way through to 2002. Then they restricted handguns, and the rate dropped sharply, and stayed down.
"To say it's nearly halved is erroneous"
Nope. The rate was 1.6 to 1.9/100,000, it is now 0.98/100,000.
"Of course the problem then is you're crediting regulations that didn't exist yet for reducing the homicide rate."
Nope.
This is why, when examining the effects of anything, you should always compare 5-10 years before and 5-10 years after the event in question occurred."
Yes. Here you go;
www.crimestats.aic.gov.au/NHMP/1_trends/
@@karabamabo7030 Here's the primary source. You are wrong.
www.crimestats.aic.gov.au/NHMP/1_trends/
@@corneredfox "You do realize Port Arthur occurred in 1996, right?"
Yes? I never said otherwise.
"Your own graph is disagreeing with you."
Not remotely.
Why do we never hear about gun control in Israel
It's not ran by leftist, And the people need the protection, against Jihadist.
Not a NZ problem. Each country does things their own way.
@@TheTheotherfoot you think
@@satisfieddrifter4303 I know!
An assault rifle has to have select fire by definition. Notice he said assault "style" rifle. If you don't like firearms that's your business, but at least know the facts first.
Civilians don't need semi-automatic weapons. New Zealand has done the right thing.
tell that to those living under a dictatorship. do you think north korea would still be the same if its citizens were allowed to own guns? anti-gun= anti-freedom
@@tylerbrown9161 the only thing you need to tell these people is come and take it
civilians dont need any gun. Still own them for fun, or hobby activiies, like hunting and sport.
How do we get rid of our invasive species threatening our ecosystem?
@@scootergrant8683 McNuke
Everything he said about “assault rifles” is easily debunk-able, misleading, or just flat out wrong and stupid... Shocker
According to that definition, a PPSH smg could be an assault rifle.
I'm sooo glad the government knows what is best for me and is sooo willing to protect me from myself.
According to the Lexicon of firearms terminology and the U.S. Military the definition of an "Assault Rifle" is a shoulder fired, magazine fed, long gun chambered for an intermediate powered cartridge capable of selective fire.
...hmmm no, you mean prtect you from others who are not like you who have an assault rifle wanting to get you, while you may also have a gun but you are busy gardening and have your back turned.
The Supreme Court ruled years ago the Police have NO responsibility or duty to protect the public, their job is to enforce laws not protect the public. @@wrathc53
Annie, the guns in the ban are listed as MSSA weapons That is "Military Style Semi Automatic weapons. I do hope that this is not too hard for you to understand.
Nobody cares what the US military definition is. The New Zealand will decide what is and is not an assault rifle.
Which are illegal.
I hate it when stupid people ruin it for the rest... :/
The amount of little context LMAOOOO
Wow! Still loving this! My husband is a hunter, a gun owner, he has several different guns for different game (deer, duck etc) but no semi automatic! Hes always maintained he has never wasted a bullet! Every single shot brings food home, or dont pull the trigger. And he always is Thankful. Nothing dies with out a prayer. And We always use every part of the animal. He never shoots for pleasure. I find this a moot argument for shooters! If you want an AK47, You arent wanting it for food gathering!
Well, if you live in the states then your husband needs a history lesson. The second amendment is for protection against tyrranical government and self defense. Not hunting.
@@TheZaros666 Well, that's true, but after the revolution, the military was formed and is sworn to protect the constitution against a tyrannical government. Are you going to come off playing Call of Duty and play weekend warrior against the most hi-tech military in the world with your duck shooting rifle?
@@nzfreeski im just some random person from the internet, you don't know what I do, who I am, or what I can do. Don't make assumptions about people.
@@nzfreeski and you just take their word?
Yeah New Zealand! Good job!
Yeah, take that law abiding citizens.
"Yeah New Zealand! Good job!"
Yes good job. Don't fight back.
The elephant in the room here is that until this week NZ and US had similar gun laws, yet only the US had an epidemic of mass shootings and murders. What is the cultural problem in the US that causes so much gun violence?
If you want to own a gun here in New Zealand legally you need to get a gun licence. This includes a mental health check, criminal record check, police come to your house to see where you will be storing guns etc first.
New Zealand Article 1 of the Bill of Rights, which provides "that the pretended power of dispensing with laws or the execution of laws by regal authority ... is illegal.
still mislabeling semi autos as 'assault rifles'... you'd think you could at least get this right by now.
The term was Assault type rifles. This included semi-auto weapons and eapons that hold more than 10 rounds.
@@TheTheotherfoot Assault "type". Another made up term that people that have no idea what they are talking about.
ZDriver1996 you’re wrong bud, assault rifles can be semi automatic as well as fully automatic. They are automatic, automatic meaning both or just one of the above terms, military rifles which are magazine fed or “high capacity” I.E. more than 10 rounds, without having to charge the firearm every time, is a high capacity automatic assault rifle, I served in the military. I know what I’m talking about
@Kevin the Duck my dad said so
@Kevin the Duck but my teacher said so
Well done NZ! Jacinda Arden exhibits qualities that every effective leader should possess - empathy and moral resolve. Here in the UK we have experienced two mass shootings in recent history. Following the first (in 1987), all military-style weapons were prohibited. After the second mass shooting (in 1996), all handguns were banned. Strict licensing laws apply to gun ownership (for sport, hunting, etc.). While we are tackling a rise in knife crime, thankfully we have one of the lowest homicide rates in the world with virtually no gun related violence.
@@bigsexxy1 You fail to understand the difference in the cultural norms in Europe and the US. Prior to the ban here, assault rifles were very rare among civilians. Also, the evidence speaks for intself - virtually no gun violence!
@@sinistral9629 Yep. It's the same here in NZ. Guns are really quite rare - especially MSSA - and we simply do not have the groups that display the same kinds of obsessive interest with guns that the US does (for which I am thankful).
Still, I rather suspect it's just too late in the US now unfortunately. Too many guns in circulation.
@@mduckernz Firstly, my heartfelt condolences to the people of your beautiful country, which I've had the good fortune to visit. I totally agree with your comment. I think it's difficult for some Americans (especially those who haven't travelled) to understand the very different attitude to gun ownership that exists outside the US.
@@sinistral9629 Thank you, it is truly appreciated. It has been a very difficult past week. I've been providing informal counseling to persons affected by it - mostly those living close by and someone who knew one who died - and it's taken a pretty big toll on me I have to say.
Now the sadness is giving way to a determination to stamp out the ideological basis of the shooter. Fascism has returned, and it's spread fairly widely already :( .
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And yes, I absolutely agree about the culture divide about that. Guns are a privilege here, not a right (like driving a vehicle; certain vehicles require special licenses, and some are just banned for civilians) - and "self defense" is not a valid legal reason to own a gun (you will 100% be denied for citing it)
"in the UK we have experienced two mass shootings in recent history. Following the first (in 1987), all military-style weapons were prohibited. After the second mass shooting (in 1996), all handguns were banned."
So basically put on more and more gun controls progressively so no one can have them because mass shootings haven't been stopped. All you are doing is sending the message that you are weak and your country is weak.
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thoughts and prayers ...the closest thing you will get to gun control in the us....
What?! We only own 46% of the global stock of civilian firearms...We're slacking
"What?! We only own 46% of the global stock of civilian firearms...We're slacking"
I bought a few more to commemorate the occasion.
@@spasdelev1284 "And 25% of incancerated people."
Are you saying it is bad to lock up criminals? Would you prefer it if we set the mass shooter free? What do you mean by this?
"Good that they're no firearms in my country."
Ah and which country is that? There is no country with a total ban on firearms worldwide for private citizens that I can think of.
@@spasdelev1284 "I mean there are a lot of criminals cuz everyone has guns."
Even if you had a total 100% ban on firearms there would still be criminals. It would be then be carried out with knives.
@@spasdelev1284 "actually it would still be criminals with illegal guns, just far less criminals."
Interesting so you just ban the method and the criminal disappears?
Why did the U.S. see a massive decline in overall violent crime to a higher degree than Australia around the same time period Port Arthur onward?
"Right now even a child can easily get access to a gun and go shoot down his friends at school."
Overwhelmingly not common. The most amount of shootings public/mass or not are still carried out by thugs. The famous 300+ mass shooting figure is overwhelmingly committed by gang bangers with handguns.
I get so sick of hearing untrue things. If you are going to place a claim then at least look up the federal government statistics on gun homicide.
@@spasdelev1284 "everyone having a gun pretty much means everyone has "option become criminal" in life."
But overwhelmingly even if they did "supposedly" have the "option to become criminal" they do not.
99.97% of American firearms are not involved in a crime. Thus not criminal overwhelmingly not criminal.
To answer your question why we are behind is because you have a few factors. 1. They talk about guns they know of not the ones on the street that are not registered. 2. You dont have the same underlying issues in other countries as we do here. Ive been to other countries like ours and its not as bad. 3. The definitions of these weapons and what they are banning still does not stop the issues. Things like this will still happen if we dont get a grip on mental illness and other underlying issues first. The question I have is why is it so bad now and getting worse? Where is all this coming from. I grew up in the 80's and 90's yet this was not a real thing till late 90's and on. We need to figure this out.
Great thinking Terrell and a difficult journey no doubt. I don't believe there are simple single answers but surely graduated comprehensive background checks ramping up to full accountability licences for the most lethal of weapons is a start.
Terell - Good point. I read where most mass shooters were on ssri antidepressants that caused them to do it. If you look at when those drugs were put on the market, this was when the mass shootings started. It's still not as bad as the leftist media makes it to be, because we have 330 million people. NZ only has 4 million people
I get what you're saying but attributing mass shooter motives to mental illness rubs me the wrong way. I understand the power of marketing that's fuelling the online propaganda machines churning out the hate messaging - and how vulnerable minds can be easily swayed. IMO it would be simpler to target the online propaganda industry. Hit them with regulation and if necessary via the courts. America's the spiritual home of the lawsuit so it shouldn't be an issue
Vik Z - It's not mental illness but the drugs that treat it that are causing 95% of mass shootings. Years ago people that were depressed took all natural things like L tryptophan for depression, that didn't have these homicidal and suicidal behavior side effects. Suicides recently surpassed car accidents as the number one cause of death by unnatural causes in the US, and it's due to these ssri antidepressants. The government won't ban these pills, because big pharma owns the politicians. Big Pharma makes billions per year on these death pills and they're not going to give up a cash cow like that.
@@vikz5786 While that is true you have to always be mindful of the freedom of speech. Its a two fold issue. Medication/mental illness and then there is what people see and hear and how they react.
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Looking up the definition of assault rifle on Britannica and yet it reads
“ a military firearm that is chambered for ammunition of reduced size or propellant charge and that has the capacity to switch between semiautomatic and fully automatic fire.”
Nice try MSNBC. An AR-15 is not an Assault Rifle and can only shoot as fast as the individual can pull the trigger. Columbine occurred during the federal assault weapons ban. Virginia Tech shooter used two handguns. Banning some big scary looking rifle isn’t going to stop shootings. Crazies will use other methods. Laws only effect the law abiding citizens of this country.
The gun owners of the USA have enough laws and should not give one inch, because they will take miles.
I don't even own a gun and they got my vote
@Peter Kazavis Enough said.
Can stop Semi Automatic guns but cant stop a trigger finger
you may have my guns hot and empty
Here's an idea...how about our news stations run the names and hometowns of every person killed by a firearm on the day it's officially made public? Every day, we would see the names of our lost citizens, and know how terrible our gun policies are, as the evidence scrolls on the screen. Every day, new names. It will galvanise the opposition of our deadly archaic adherence to the 2nd Amendment. As a child, I saw the names of every local soldier killed in Vietnam during the nightly news. It scared me enough to become a lifetime pacifist.
Run their names. Every day.
@Ruth Slone. I like your idea but it may run the risk of having the complete opposite affect. The 2nd Amendment appears to run deep in America. The more names shown of those killed may cause more fear thus more guns obtained under the 2nd Amendment. Get rid of the 2nd Amendment for one year, see how it goes. If that doesn't work, you could always reinstate it.
I would worry it would numb everyone to the issue. I love your passion and call to this issue!! It definitely needs to be addressed every effective way possible!
Robert Dickson we are completely numb to the subject right now. Every day, we hear numbers...cold, impersonal and easy to ignore. We aren't callous, necessarily, but we just don't feel the personal connection to '49 dead' or '14 massacred'. If we see their names, we will grieve with the families and friends in a more poignant way. We will know their horror and feel their indignation, and perhaps make the changes to our gun laws.
@@ruthslone2992 I don't disagree with you on any of those facts, but I think over exposing deaths may make this a common event for many. I don't have an alternative or better solution to this than you do, so I appreciate your passion and that you are vocal with ideas. We need more of this. The whole world needs more of this.
I just don't see many realistic options are viable until the NRA, or corporations in general get their money out of politics. It needs to come from the top, which means voting for people who don't accept corporate money.
Dumb idea, post the names of the 250 million disarmed people that their governments have murdered in the last 100 years, get a brain.
So here's what I hear Robyn saying: the NRA is a toothless lion but the American electorate has yet to realize that. Also, that those elected officials/representatives who cower to the demands of the NRA are cowardly because they are bending to the will of a toothless lion.
Here's the thing: as the electorate, we hold all the power. We've given it away and allowed others to abuse the position of trust we've awarded them.
Former President Obama debated this issue in public forums with members of the public to help all of us understand what was going on. We had a choice back then, as we do in 2020 to demand better of those we offer the opportunity to represent us. In the end, the NZ PM was able to execute because that's what the electorate want and they made their desires known loud and clear.
If we want better, we have to demand it. And we have to stop being apathetic, afraid and irresponsible with the privilege given us as eligible voters.
Once again, Velshi and Ruhle putting the airwaves to good use.
Well said. Sadly, people are apathetic because they believe they are powerless. However, if there is one thing that political/social institutions fear above all else is an organized, resistent and united populace.
NRA is not just 6 million members. That does not include the 100 million who AGREE WITH THEM! and vote accordingly!
@@jacobw446 and does not include the 61% of Americans that don't. Numbers man, they butthurt ya when you shill them around like that.
@@neddelley8766 there is about 90 million butt hurt liberals these days, that do not want anyone to have civil rights.. unless it is what they want! There is not "61%" who do not want gun rights in America!!
@@jacobw446 nobody was saying gun rights, we are saying controls -- read it - www.npr.org/2018/03/02/589849342/npr-poll-after-parkland-number-of-americans-who-want-gun-restrictions-grows
Great day for criminals!!
The 2nd Amendment recognizes an American Citizens Right to own and keep weapons sufficient to Rebel against an oppressive Government .
Per the Federalist Papers that explain the intent of the Constitutional Amendments.
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Most comments on this video are about why America can't or won't do the same thing (Gun Ban).
I'm just pointing out that our Constitution was written and explained for a very clear cut reason. To prevent a Tyrannical Government.
If your government passed hate speech laws and imprison people for expressing their thoughts, you are living in a tyrannical government, like the one our forefathers overthrew. This isn't the monarchy's first rodeo and they've always restricted free speech, and used those offensive speech laws to imprison and silence people that protest their rule, even as far back as the 1700's when our forefathers overthrew them. Don't kid yourself, your government didn't enact those laws because they're concerned about you insulting each other and getting your feelings hurt.
Rasmus Finn - Yes I'm referring to our forefathers that killed natives, natives that were murdering women and children and turning in their scalps to British soldiers for a bounty. I guess you think it's okay to murder women and children and trade their scalps like animal pelts.
The craziest thing is that this is what the shooter wanted. A knee jerk reaction to spur argument and drive the wedge further between us.
Yeah..... The public reaction to the shooter has driven a wedge into NZ?? Have you seen the public reaction ?? Now get f*cken real!!!!
Yeah, way to give the nut job what he wanted. Knee-jerk reactions are obviously the best solution, Good job New Zealand!
No just do nothing like the USA and keep on trucking...with hundreds of more deaths.
@@MichealLucastoamako You're absolutely right! A complete ban would work perfectly! I mean we've banned alcohol and drugs and it worked so well it's unbelievable! Now there isn't one bong or fifth of whiskey in sight.
@@KryptKicker5 Well time will tell, seems you are just knee jerk reacting at this moment. Not doing anything has worked wonders for the USA.
@@MichealLucastoamako My responses are not knee-jerk, they are in fact documented historically proven instances of just what we're talking about. Namely banning something deemed "dangerous" and how terribly it works in reality. And since we lead the world in immigration you're right, people from all walks appreciate freedom and embrace the personal responsibility that it entails.
The US is the biggest exporter of guns to New Zealand
Good, gun prices should come down in the US now.
New Zealand also doesn't have the number of gangs as the U.S. does. Over 90% of gun homicides are gang related.
wrong, nz has more gang members per capital than any other country
So you don't want to include gang killings?? Why not??? The victom is just as dead.
@Jack Mac "Oh they will"
They already have issues if they just completed his will.
@@hicktownguy2 "wrong, nz has more gang members per capital than any other country"
Citation needed. The U.S. has more gang groups compared to NZ total gang population.
Unlike trump, they act swiftly and precisely...trump talks and achieve nothing
Learn how to write a sentence.
@@heatherlynn2695 blablabla this you understand
"Unlike trump, they act swiftly and precisely...trump talks and achieve nothing"
He has been prevented by liberals at every turn. Imagine if every branch was Republican? NZ is entirely full of liberals. All branches of their government are liberal thus no speed bumps. Plus our government structure is designed to be slow so that laws are not dictated by a whim.
@@1911GreaterThanALL for 2 years he could have but did nothing
Ill take dedicated by a whim over dedicated by big business groups like the tobaco lobby. The lobby that is directly responsible for more deaths than any terror organization in the world ever including the Nazis. That same tobacco lobby that has developed an advertising plan to target youth through vapor cigarettes. during Trumps presidency.
“The most foolish mistake we could possibly make would be to allow the subjugated races to possess arms. History shows that all conquerors who have allowed their subjugated races to carry arms have prepared their own downfall by so doing. Indeed, I would go so far as to say that the supply of arms to the underdogs is a sine qua non for the overthrow of any sovereignty. So let’s not have any native militia or native police.” -Adolf Hitler.
This is Tyranny 101 New Zealanders. Take note. Rebel. Don’t let them take your guns. If they come for you, fight back. Organize yourselves.
Hitler was speaking of an occupied nation. He was also talking of a total gun ban. It's irrelevant for NZ, as it is neither of these things.
The Kiwis also rate higher than the US in EVERY freedom index, just for some context :)
WHERES THE NEWS ABOUT BAMBI IN SANTA CLARA? she was murdered and no one will discuss this because ?
The root problem is the American Political system that encourages Self-interests and Corruption on a massive scale. This situation makes it hard to get sensible things done like gun control or having affordable healthcare and tertiary education plus having a sizable population that's highly resistant to change which ironically could benefit them didn't help either. So they're stuck, jammed, frozen in the same mess that could have been sorted out pretty quickly because they keep shooting themselves in the foot or in America's case, their brains.
Controlling speech, taking civilians guns, and now burning books sound familiar.
Incredible? NZ has a young woman for a national leader. NZ is pretty advanced compared to some....
So why did it take 22 years ?
@Jack Mac wtf are you talking about. Gun rights?
elementary kids could do a better job than what is happening in the US right now
@@ronnieDaking idk. why hasn't the US had a female leader yet? why is that taking so long?
If having a fool in charge is what you call "advanced" then you are an even bigger fool.
So Im just curious. what do you all think the solution is for America ?
"So Im just curious. what do you all think the solution is for America ?"
Get rid of gun free zones. The majority of mass shootings occur in such zones because the shooters know they can achieve higher casualties without resistance. It is impossible to be able to control the most firearms on the planet yet the gun violence in this country isn't correlative to the number of guns or gun measures. If we are the most lax in terms of gun controls and have the greatest number of firearms why aren't we number 1 in terms of gun violence?
@@1911GreaterThanALL Tighter gun laws, get rid of the free gun market, licence gun ownership. The very least you could do.
America appears to be a country that has grown up in fear. When people are scared they retreat to their "safe zones". Being isolated in "safe zones" makes you suspicious of those who are not in your "safe zone". This leads to a "black and white" view of the world or an "us and them" mentality. Americans won't say that they are scared, instead they will cover the fear with logic, eg they'll take away our guns therefore we need to defend our guns, and this pushes people further to the extremes. The discussion should not be all or nothing. I see that Americans have the right to have a gun, but not military style guns aimed at killing large numbers of people. Defend the right to carry a small pistol for defense, or a rifle on your farm or for hunting. Have a grown-up discussion not a fear-mongering argument. BTW the fear thing is not just about guns, but many things, republican/democrat, immigration, healthcare, etc
@@TheTheotherfoot So, all things the government does already. Free gun markets are illegal, gun laws are tight (mental health evaluations are required by some states as is a safety class), and you do need a lisence to own guns. Nice try bud.
@@chriscarpenter5597 "I see that Americans have a right to guns, just not the military type capable of killing multiple people." Okay, then why do people have issues with American gun laws? People seem to think we can own machine guns here and that isn't true. Most people carry a pistol or have shotguns/rifles for hunting purposes.
Glad he didn’t use a steak knife
Always a great idea to make a rash, emotional, and moronic law after a tragedy!!!
Ah luvs ma gunz.
RMP - Not rash at all, there are plenty of examples that show this is always the best option. In Australia after Port Arthur no more massacres, in the UK, no gun massacres after guns were banned. I would be surprised if there are any more in New Zealand after this, yet as the report showed, daily shoot-up's in the US.
Kevin Pitt it is historically almost always a bad idea to disarm a citizenry. Mass shootings are so rare that it is not statically worth make a point. In Australia gun violence was trending down before the ban and continued to trend down after the ban at the same rate. CDC did a study a few years ago on gun violence. It said that guns use for protection saves anywhere from 500,000 to 3 million lives in one year. Compared to about 5000 lives taken from guns used to crimes and suicides.
It wasn't rash, the changes were proposed after a lengthy public inquiry in 2017 but weren't passed then as we were complacent. Not anymore.
@@rmprmp2813 must be great living in a country where "your trust extends as far as the next magazine" which is the problem, not the solution.
They who can give up essential Liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty not safety-
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NZ outranks the US in EVERY freedom index, and has less than a fifth the homicide rate. Liberty AND freedom, it can be done you know...
@@ratofvengence can they own ar15's now? We can. That's one freedom we have that they don't. Can they possess footage of the shooting without going to jail? We can. That's another.
@@andrewsmith7531 Owning a gun isn't a freedom. It's a responsibility. That's just one of the things you guys have gotten horribly wrong.
And as I said, NZ outranks the US in ALL the freedom indexes. You should aspire to be as free :)
@@ratofvengence gun ownership is something we've got wrong? Are you serious? Only someone who doesn't even begin to understand individual liberty could think that.
@@andrewsmith7531 "gun ownership is something we've got wrong? Are you serious?"
Yes. Hadn't you noticed the USA has the worst homicide rate of any 1st world developed nation? By a long way! Heck, even Kazakhstan has a lower rate.
"Only someone who doesn't even begin to understand individual liberty could think that."
Guns =/= liberty. I thought I'd just established that. If they did, the US would be the most free nation, but it doesn't lead on ANY freedom index. Several nations outrank the US on ALL of them.
Swift actions are seldom wise actions. If people are going to be jailed for not wanting to relinquish the guns they legally own, New Zealand's government will have to accept their tyranny, but if it makes you feel better than that's okay I guess.
They don't legally own them anymore. That's kind of the point.
@@GerardKean right, make something a law and it is therefore just. At least we know how you would have felt about slavery when it was legal.
Nathan Higgins To own a firearm in New Zealand is a "right", not a "privilege". To purchase any firearm you have to obtain a Police issued Firearms Licence (includes background checks, completing a firearms test, and having secure storage for any firearm). Even though the ownership of handguns have been heavily restricted in NZ for many years there is still about 1.5 million firearms for a population of about 5 million people. Most firearms would be owned by farmers or recreational hunters. New Zealanders also don't believe in owning a firearm for personal protection.
Guns are a tool. Gun control is bad. If the government became tyrannical, or the economy collapsed the people would need rifles to defend themselves and hunt for food.
A warm, fuzzy feel-good law.
A bland, boring American.
Atta girl!
@@msears8576 Yes, Mohamed Atta killed thousands of Americans.
Using another countries tragedy and spinning it to your agenda- itself is a tragedy.
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I thought murder was illegal, I guess criminals don’t follow laws. Who would’ve thought.
Thoughts and Prayers, America! That will save you from the next shooting.
they seem to be about as useful as laws against mass shootings.
It is funny how that murders, rapes, petty crimes, drug abuse, STD rates, single parent homes, children out of wedlock, all shot up in the US after Christian morality was kicked out of the US Public schools in the 1940s and 50s. The first mass shootings started 1 generation later. Maybe we should be returning "prayers" to the schools!
How unfortunate, next thing they'll Ban the pen.
Still clueless when it comes to weapons there is no such thing as an assault rifle military style firearm you got that Still clueless when it comes to weapons there is no such thing as an assault rifle military style firearm you got that right style ..style
We will define them as we see fit. Our decision for us, and none of your business.
Remind me never move to NZ
Consider yourself reminded don’t come to New Zealand
Please don't ever come to NZ. Or Australia.
fcukugimmeausername Really NewZealand Volunteering to turn weapons in over one crazy man! You people have a lot to learn or just stupid!
Bobby Gudger 100s handed in already in New Zealand. Your opinion doesn’t count as fact.
hakaboy6924 No such thing as gun control only people control, one day you, your kids or your grandchildren might find out.. Let’s pray they don’t!
Wait. We’re banning all the guns used in the terrorist attack?
So we’re are making a shotgun and two rifles illegal. What are the serial numbers so I don’t buy any of the three which are now outlawed
Prime minister’s grammar sucks, just like mine. I think shooting continuously requires a normal capacity magazine
They are closing the loop hole that allows gun owners to add certain modifications to guns, they are also banning more then just 3 guns they are banning all military level assault guns
Bobby nuggets I’m just nitpicking
@@The_SmorgMan oh okay sometimes it's hard to distinguish the nut jobs from the ones joking 😂😂
Bobby nuggets maybe I should be more like a liberal. They have labels for everything and I can put a sarcasm warning at the beginning of my comment. Yes I’m just out here trolling
@@mrsdodds707 military rifles are already illegal.
Am i the only one worried that, there was no debate, no asking or anything about this. just knee jerk reaction. no matter your opinion on guns don't you think it was a bit cheap to use the confusion,fear and death of these people only a few days afterwards to push though such changing legislation without so much of a debate.
HistoryFan476ad the legislation hasn’t passed through parliament. There will be debate in the next week but all sides of politics have ruled out opposing the recommendations.
@@FJUH No debate at all. Every party agreeing makes you wonder what backroom deal were made then. parties never come together there is always one who does not.
I still think this is just riding the fears and post shock of the event.
HistoryFan476ad “Party’s never come together”
In America that’s true but in more civilised countries like NZ it is possible for all party’s to unite around a cause such as keeping citizens safe. NZ is a hunting country, no one is going to “take away their guns”, and people will still be able to hunt. Just because the US is divided doesn’t mean other countries are the same.
@@FJUH You got to admit though, it is very hard to trust politicians though and the idea of them uniting together is a bit strange. I mean backstabbing rats tend to eat each other.
Id trust New Zealand politicians over any other politicians in the world though. NZ constantly finishes at the top or 2nd in terms of countries with the least corruption. THe real (as opposed to self proclaimed) 'Greatest Democracy on Earth.' US wouldnt make the top 20 democracies in reality. Run by big donors and big business, like the smoking lobby.
Nearly half the world can`t afford guns
If somebody (ANYBODY) points a gun at me, they are accepting that it's my right to take it from them and to keep it.
I think the goverment should tell us how to do everything. They are alot smarter than us and do alot of that thinking stuff. You know the stuff we are too busy to do.
The UK turned in there guns and now are asking for their knives because of mass knife attacks! What next? Your spoons! Can't make this stuff up
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Exceptional reporting, Steph and Ali.👍👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏.
Keep on digging, Ali and Steph.👍.
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Fun fact. Shes a self-proclaimed political nerd lol, she geeked out n got starry eyed when she met Barrack Obama
All the more reason to not support her.
So much bad opinion in this