@@FillipikPlaysCZfor people pushing the skill cap of this game there’s mythic raid and high end mythic plus. It’s 5050 and there’s nothing else like it. Your statement is way off base.
Paladin healing blows rn. I’m a better healer as a tank. Coming from a pally tank haha. But that’s my personal take you push as high as you want and gl in s2!
Currently only Shaman and Priest are viable for Mythic+ healing and Priest only viable at 12+. Any other healer classes will have great difficulty getting into any group. Evoker, Monk, and Druid are great in raids. Paladin healer is awkward anywhere. Play Tank or Ret for a much easier time.
@@yiyuejidumbest comment I have ever seen imo. Playing monk healer I am literally number 1 every raid I am in and doing +12 keys with ease. Monk is easily s tier right now after the changes we got this season
I quit raiding because if m+. I don't have time to run a ton of them to stay relevant, so I'm a delve runner and just play casual. Would love to see dungeons being a 1f1 upgrade not 4 runs to upgrade.
I don't want to do group content, people are toxic, I'm disappointed that the crest for heroic doesn't drop in a good amount in higher levels of delves, I don't want to be pushed into m+
wtf youre playing a mmo game ? literally the point is to play with other people, if you cannot be assed to try and find a good group of people just go play single player games.... I hate toxic idiots too, but if you keep trying to make your own keys you will eventually find skilled and kind people, over 20 people play with me since release.... thats a your problem.... whats the point of playing WoW completely solo, unless all you want to do is story and some side content, the main game IS MULTIPLAYER
Also every MP game has toxic ppl, welcome to real life lol, peope like you are so entitled, i am glad blizzard doesnt listen to ppl like you, the game will loose all reason to play if they make everything easy to get by playing solo, you already have many options now how to get gear, you dont even neeed the gear when you play solo? what the fck do you mythic track gear for? when all you do is solo
@@kingsamoanOGwhy its stupid? why do you need better gear for lmao:D ? when you want to play solo, the point of better gear is to push GROUP CONTENT, if you dont do that, just play solo delves where 620 ilvl is completely fine
@FillipikPlaysCZ you mistake mmorpg with a multiplayer, the mmo is not necessary for the rpg part, most of the gameplay is solo, and people like you make it even more unlikable.
If I shall ever step a foot into M+, there are alot of changes that have to be done. 1: timers have to be remove, it is a lazy way to make things harder, but ofcause it shall get harder when key level goes up. 2: Keys shall never go down in level, if failed, because you have clearly shown you could clear to get to the level you are on. 3: Balance the dungeons/or class/specs so you not ony see the same 5-6 class'/specs. 4: This one is for the players, dont be toxic/have a big mouth/whatever you wanna call, by calling other players names etc rarely solve anything, but talking abourt what the group did wrong/or a player did wrong solve things allmost every time. 5: I dont mind some addons, but if you need 5-6 (or how many you need) addons to run M+ (and raids for that matter), make it more clear what boss mechanics is. If all these changes are made, I would happily do M+ and even tank or heal them, but for now I am sticking to my two warlocks, an undead warlock and a drenaei warlock, doing delves, open world content, events, old dungeons/raids farm for trans and pets etc. and timewalking dungeons.
The balance thing is the only one you might need to rethink. I get that we don't want to see the same classes and that balance should be good but, even on the most balanced of seasons, people ALWAYS pick a meta. Even if things were LITERALLY perfectly balanced you can't control the public.
@@Kmaitland89 well I as I said if I shall ever step into some M+ all of these things needs to happen, I would even dont mind tank or heal in M+ if all of these things is happening. and I think bring the player and not the class, that way I am not forced to play a specific class and/or spec.
We should just be able to choose what dungeon to play and what level as in delves. Remove these stupid ass keys which is for some reason an items in your inventory - there is no other point than annoyance. It's extremely stupid also that if you fail you are double penalized, you fail the key so you dont get loot, but now you also need to complete another key before being able to try again - like only someone at blizz would come up with something so stupid.
Either key depletion or timer needs to go or Mythic+ will become even more ignored by the larger player base. Stats show that War Within Season 1's Mythic+ popularity is coming dangerously close to falling under Pet Battle popularity, where less than 40% of the active player base choose to take part, that's a design failure. Imagine pushing content that more than half the player base completely ignores... that's where we are at right now. More than 70% of the player base participated in Mythic+ during Dragonflight. Something went terribly wrong somewhere during the transition.
It was never an issue with the timer, delves players thought getting all heroic gears maxed will carry them to getting 10s and portals. Boy, were they wrong. Even in my experience, so many people are 620 plus with io score lower than the average, which is laughable. In dragonflight, people liked m plus because progression was easier. Tanks were busted, healers were pumping and almost all dps were viable from low to top end runs.
If there was 0 consequence to failing a run, that is just like planting a seed to make people lazy. Like, who would need to learn mechanics if knowing nothing would result in zero consequences right?
I dabbled in mythic plus...it was an awful experience..I will stick with delves I'm happy with my ilvl . To do my content I don't need mythic plus at all!!!
Mythic plus was a cancer in the game and the timer ruins it. There should be higher mythical with NO TIMER. it makes people speed run every other type of content bc there programmed too from m+
its amazing, you probably just dont want to learn, there are toxic people yeah, thats everywhere tho, if you want a good group thats fun to play with and push higher keys thats the best!! make your own keys and find good groups, im glad blizzard doesnt listen to cry babies, you hsve plenty of options of no-timed content, like 95% of the game is not timed, you have many casual content to play, you dont have to do mythic plus
Bro is yapping about delve players the same way people yap about inner city kids not knowing technology. Most guys running delves know the basics of dungeons lol
For me the reason not to push M+ is the timer. I don't mind difficult content, I just don't like speed running.
This.
Timer should be a multiplier :D
@@dr.zoidberg8666 literally choose the other 95% of the game you like and completely ignore mythic plus
@@FillipikPlaysCZfor people pushing the skill cap of this game there’s mythic raid and high end mythic plus. It’s 5050 and there’s nothing else like it. Your statement is way off base.
@ lol yeah and those people pushing that content is maybe 0.5% of the real playerbase, literally your point?
Really pumped for S2. Ganna dip into paladin tanking and healing, so hype!
Paladin healing blows rn. I’m a better healer as a tank. Coming from a pally tank haha. But that’s my personal take you push as high as you want and gl in s2!
Currently only Shaman and Priest are viable for Mythic+ healing and Priest only viable at 12+. Any other healer classes will have great difficulty getting into any group. Evoker, Monk, and Druid are great in raids. Paladin healer is awkward anywhere. Play Tank or Ret for a much easier time.
@@yiyuejidumbest comment I have ever seen imo. Playing monk healer I am literally number 1 every raid I am in and doing +12 keys with ease. Monk is easily s tier right now after the changes we got this season
I quit raiding because if m+. I don't have time to run a ton of them to stay relevant, so I'm a delve runner and just play casual. Would love to see dungeons being a 1f1 upgrade not 4 runs to upgrade.
I don't want to do group content, people are toxic, I'm disappointed that the crest for heroic doesn't drop in a good amount in higher levels of delves, I don't want to be pushed into m+
It's such bullshit if you really want to progress your gear they are forcing us to do myth dungeons it's stupid
wtf youre playing a mmo game ? literally the point is to play with other people, if you cannot be assed to try and find a good group of people just go play single player games.... I hate toxic idiots too, but if you keep trying to make your own keys you will eventually find skilled and kind people, over 20 people play with me since release.... thats a your problem.... whats the point of playing WoW completely solo, unless all you want to do is story and some side content, the main game IS MULTIPLAYER
Also every MP game has toxic ppl, welcome to real life lol, peope like you are so entitled, i am glad blizzard doesnt listen to ppl like you, the game will loose all reason to play if they make everything easy to get by playing solo, you already have many options now how to get gear, you dont even neeed the gear when you play solo? what the fck do you mythic track gear for? when all you do is solo
@@kingsamoanOGwhy its stupid? why do you need better gear for lmao:D ? when you want to play solo, the point of better gear is to push GROUP CONTENT, if you dont do that, just play solo delves where 620 ilvl is completely fine
@FillipikPlaysCZ you mistake mmorpg with a multiplayer, the mmo is not necessary for the rpg part, most of the gameplay is solo, and people like you make it even more unlikable.
If I shall ever step a foot into M+, there are alot of changes that have to be done.
1: timers have to be remove, it is a lazy way to make things harder, but ofcause it shall get harder when key level goes up.
2: Keys shall never go down in level, if failed, because you have clearly shown you could clear to get to the level you are on.
3: Balance the dungeons/or class/specs so you not ony see the same 5-6 class'/specs.
4: This one is for the players, dont be toxic/have a big mouth/whatever you wanna call, by calling other players names etc rarely solve anything, but talking abourt what the group did wrong/or a player did wrong solve things allmost every time.
5: I dont mind some addons, but if you need 5-6 (or how many you need) addons to run M+ (and raids for that matter), make it more clear what boss mechanics is.
If all these changes are made, I would happily do M+ and even tank or heal them, but for now I am sticking to my two warlocks, an undead warlock and a drenaei warlock, doing delves, open world content, events, old dungeons/raids farm for trans and pets etc. and timewalking dungeons.
The balance thing is the only one you might need to rethink. I get that we don't want to see the same classes and that balance should be good but, even on the most balanced of seasons, people ALWAYS pick a meta. Even if things were LITERALLY perfectly balanced you can't control the public.
@@Kmaitland89 well I as I said if I shall ever step into some M+ all of these things needs to happen, I would even dont mind tank or heal in M+ if all of these things is happening.
and I think bring the player and not the class, that way I am not forced to play a specific class and/or spec.
wow so only 8 boss raid again and not even a real megadungeon? its getting worse as the years go by..... kinda sad
We should just be able to choose what dungeon to play and what level as in delves. Remove these stupid ass keys which is for some reason an items in your inventory - there is no other point than annoyance. It's extremely stupid also that if you fail you are double penalized, you fail the key so you dont get loot, but now you also need to complete another key before being able to try again - like only someone at blizz would come up with something so stupid.
Either key depletion or timer needs to go or Mythic+ will become even more ignored by the larger player base. Stats show that War Within Season 1's Mythic+ popularity is coming dangerously close to falling under Pet Battle popularity, where less than 40% of the active player base choose to take part, that's a design failure. Imagine pushing content that more than half the player base completely ignores... that's where we are at right now. More than 70% of the player base participated in Mythic+ during Dragonflight. Something went terribly wrong somewhere during the transition.
It was never an issue with the timer, delves players thought getting all heroic gears maxed will carry them to getting 10s and portals. Boy, were they wrong. Even in my experience, so many people are 620 plus with io score lower than the average, which is laughable. In dragonflight, people liked m plus because progression was easier. Tanks were busted, healers were pumping and almost all dps were viable from low to top end runs.
If there was 0 consequence to failing a run, that is just like planting a seed to make people lazy. Like, who would need to learn mechanics if knowing nothing would result in zero consequences right?
Blizzard needs to remove key depletion. It causes people to NOT want to push keys.
no
I dabbled in mythic plus...it was an awful experience..I will stick with delves I'm happy with my ilvl . To do my content I don't need mythic plus at all!!!
Hello thinking getting back into WoW any rec class thats good for shuffle/blitz? Also something that is not to hard!
Mythic plus was a cancer in the game and the timer ruins it. There should be higher mythical with NO TIMER. it makes people speed run every other type of content bc there programmed too from m+
its amazing, you probably just dont want to learn, there are toxic people yeah, thats everywhere tho, if you want a good group thats fun to play with and push higher keys thats the best!! make your own keys and find good groups, im glad blizzard doesnt listen to cry babies, you hsve plenty of options of no-timed content, like 95% of the game is not timed, you have many casual content to play, you dont have to do mythic plus
Bro is yapping about delve players the same way people yap about inner city kids not knowing technology. Most guys running delves know the basics of dungeons lol