After doing research the IAR-93 allegedly was capable of using R60's, Mavericks and Grom-1's but looking at how mediocre the flightmodel currently is the implementation of these way better secondary weapons may raise its BR to a point where it turns out to be barely useable in AirRB like for example the Su25SM3
@@rubybaron6392 Yes it is but from what I found the Romanian one was also capable of carrying these armaments but I may be wrong. Trying to find proper information on that aircraft is pretty difficult
@@mrpeaper The IAR-93 was supposed to get an upgrade package to incorporate similar weaponry as the J-22 which would of included the R-60 and Mav package but it didnt come into fruiton. It also seems that only the J-22 carried Kh-23s
I think they're just a lot easier to build, so a lot of nations tried to build their own instead of buying jets from USA or USSR. So there are a lot more options for Gaijin to add now that they've added all pretty much all of the air superiority/multirole fighters from the Cold War era.
More like why aren't you. Bingus countries don't like making their own super sonic jets because they're expensive and explode a lot, subsonic multi-roles are cheap, so like everyone did them for a good while. If not this, you get the 21st century copy-paste of everyone using F16s
@@charlesharris8391 for some of them sure, don’t get me wrong I have nothing against the IAR-93 but it’s an aircraft that could’ve been added a while ago, preferably in place of past vehicles that were already pretty much in the game like the Su-25BM or the A-7K. I guess to clarify I don’t mind aircraft like this but I wish we could get more unique ones like say the F-102 or the Su-15 as well as strike aircraft (as long as it isn’t just a slightly tweaked copy paste)
IAR-93/J-22 SOKO was response to Soviet Su-25. Romania and Yugoslavia as last resort to be more independent from Soviet equipment, because of Hungarian uprising 1956 and Praha spring 1968. Probably 10.0 BR
This really seems to be incomplete. The A-91 is a Romanian clone of the R-3S (which is of course the Soviet clone of the AIM-9B). I'm pretty sure that this should also get the R-60 and the A-921 (Romanian Kh-23). I think it's also supposed to be able to carry 2 AAMs on each pylon (for a maximum of 8).
on wikipedia it said it doesn't carry R-60 but its probably an incorrect statement because on further research it seems that the aircraft actually did have a loadout of 4 ( I think) R-60s
Just FYI guys. Dont use wikipedia as your origin source. The IAR-93B´s standard set consisted of max 4x air to air missiles of A-91 variety which are romanian production R-3 missiles. Only select few IAR-9B´s were capable of 8x missile loadouts on double pylons. R-60s were not used on IAR-93. Now the mavericks were NEVER used on IAR-93B´s nor was there any modification or such for wiring to use them, not a single reliable source states it could. Only wikipedia but the sources used for that do not mention anything about weaponry selection, letalone mavericks. INFACT: mavericks were bought long long after IAR-93´s were retired, they came with the F-16s Romania bought in 2013. While IAR-93´s were retired in late 90s.
@@jackmcaulay454 The KH-23 was used with it but the Mavs should not be on the wiki, i believe it states citation needed. The Yugo variant was able to carry Mavs as well as the Grom-B which was a KH-23 with Mav seekerhead
So I get less pylons compared to the G.91 YS but instead we get a RWR and get 2 more missiles. Seems rough and I say this as someone who used the 91 Y to do most of my rank VI grinding
Yeah... as a romanian i feel so fucking disapointed. They had so many options, maybe a LancerR variant of the mig21, yes i know another mig, but atleast something for us Romanians. We don't even have the modern Romanian Decal.
It should be 9.0 with this loadout. I figured it would be fine at 9.7 if it gets some of the better missiles and features like the swiss hunter but this is just ridiculous
From what I see online the A-91 is a Romanian R-13M and not an R-3S. If that's true than the BR will be justified. Lack of guided munitions is a bit sad because Italy could use those at this BR range.
At this BR area, I'm already set with the G91 and AMX. Unless this plane gets something unique added, or BR dropped, I really see no point. Most likely going to sell it on the marketplace.
it wont even be worth anything, its a minor nation jet with almost no use. Im in the same boat, just got the AMX, but im gonna keep it because its unique.
Even though Romania is my fav nation, and would love to see full sub tree of them at some point, i kinda wish gaijin would focus on adding a more full hungarian aircraft tree, and at least a few more hungarian ground vehicles before they work on Romania. And even though i dont play naval, i think Italy would benefit best from romania if they add their coastal ships first
But I think this would be a better performing mig19 in areas like energy retention at above 0.7 mach, general roll rate, and a-a armament so this wouldn't be as bad as mr canadian said in the video. (It's still not worth it)
Alpha jet nerphed bro.. does not have normal bombs They made it so that bombs up to 300 kg of TNT equivalent must be thrown directly into the commander’s hatch, but this is not realistic.😮💨😮💨😮💨
Just as a reminder: The F-104C starfighter in the american tech tree is at BR 9.3 and can carry three 750lb bombs AND four Aim-9Bs at the same time. It doesn't have CCIP, but it gets a radar and one of the best guns ever put on a plane, the M61 Vulcan. In the italian tech tree you also have the G.91 YS (BR 9.3) which can carry two AIM-9Bs as well as four 1000lb bombs, zuni/mighty mouse rocket pods (or G.91 Y if you want MCLOS NORD missiles at BR 9.0, without CCIP and RWR). The G.91 is a lot more manueverable and is very competent as a fighter, though you do lose the RWR. There are some sources saying the IAR 93B could carry up to 8 air to air missiles with twin rails for each pylon, and some sources claiming that it could use R-60s as well. I did a deep dive trying to find a source that explicitly says which missile they use. I found a lot of websites, documents and aeronautical studies on the plane, but none of them says outright which missiles the plane used. If anyone is interested, this is the reddit post: www.reddit.com/r/Warthunder/comments/1h04env/someone_has_recently_edited_the_iar93_vultur_and/
I was hyped for this plane like 4-5 years ago when supersonics weren't even out yet, and it could exist along side other trans sonic aircraft. I think this is a bit too late but glad its finally in I wonder if its same model that the one guy made like 3 years ago?
1:32 Engines should have 1814 kgf (4000 lbf) thrust and 2268 kgf (5000 lbf) with afterburner These specs are public, both on INCAS website and on pictures from IAR 93 brochure. Why is it lower ? Also why not 5 x 500 Kg bombs and the 4 x 100 kg bomb racks are missing completely.
IAR-93/J-22 SOKO was response to Soviet Su-25. Romania and Yugoslavia as last resort to be more independent from Soviet equipment if war brakes lose. Romanian use two MiG-17 engines, while Yugo use two British engines.
Confused why this thing isnt going to get R-60s like it had and just put it at 9.3. Its basically a slightly better yak-38 at that point that wouldnt overheat to shit and hopefully have decent performance
@ the only way for me to get that one is to pay since I am not in a squadron to get the grinding points and I would prefer to not join a squadron because my introverted mind prefers being alone.
GSh cannons do not fire at the same time! They fire one after the other so you DO NOT have 4 guns, you have 2 As one barrel fire it triggers the second barrel with its recoil and as such it cannot fire for a long period of time becuase the fire rate is super fast, thats why GSh cannons have low ammos counts compared to american vulcans
every one is complaining that this thing doesn't have flares but at the same time the mig 23 bn is at the same br and doesn't have flares or missiles, at least they added missiles to this plane
At 9.7 every match is going to be an uptier to 10.3 with no flares and mid missiles, I guess I’m happy I don’t have to play for the next two weeks but wow what a disappointment
@ Yeah i know, the Serbian army still uses the modernised version its called J22 Orao 2.0, it has all sorts of new stuff as thermals, lasers, GPS guided bombs, guided missiles..
Quite weird we get IAR-93B as an event vehicle and there is a little hope to get A and MB variants since it's known that Nova29R didn't work on those. As for BR, well, it's Italy, Gaijin loves to overtier their planes and then fill TT with copypaste saying there are no good vehicles in the tech tree.
oh ok so this was the model that nova worked on 5 years ago, been hoping for this thing for ages but i thought it would get AGM's and some of the other stuff I've seen in documents but maybe it was a different model/export in this case?
@AsthmaQueen as far as I understand there is no proof that Romanian 93s used guided munitions, countermeasures or better AAMs (R-60 or R-13M). Yugoslavia equipped/tested their J-22 with Bullpaps and countermeasures, so it should get them once added. For IAR I think it would nice to just decrease BR, from test drive I enjoyed its acceleration and FM in general, but imo it shouldn't be higher than 9.3, kinda similar plane to G.91YS.
@@ArsenyPro its way worse than a YS. other than the 2 extra missiles, the flight performance is way better. this thing should drop at 8.7 in air, probably 9.0 in ground, just like the alpha jet.
@ while it didn’t use them, it could mount them. The weapon exclusive to the J-22 is the Mavericks, which could also be mounted on the IAR-93 with some slight modifications to that craft
@ by the time Romania acquired mavericks it was already retired Avionics inside the J-22 compared to the IAR-63 especially when it came to guidance systems J-22 started being integrated for Grom and mavs in the late 1980s however in 1996 similar plans were proposed by Romania but never happened Was also plans by Romania to stick a radar in the thing but again it didn’t happen
If they're not going to give this thing countermeasures (which i think they should, but kinda like the MiG-23M and the CM pod), they should at least give it decent IR missiles like the K-13M or M-1 or R-60/60M, and guided ordinance. Perhaps the Kh-23 family or the agm-65B if it was implemented onto the aircraft.
To be honest the J-8Peace Pearl would have been a way better option than this lackluster strike aircraft . I think ill pass on this . Its just missile bait at this point
So the alpha jet is just better and it's 8.7 and has countermeasures. The fact this can carry 4 shitty a2a missiles does not warrant an entire BR increase lol.
Why is this an event vehicle? there are so many cool unique and wacky vehicles that they could have added and its just a basic 9.0 strike aircraft like usual it feels lazy honestly
It's like the situation with the jaguar gr 1 they don't have flares, but the jaguar has a chaff pod, they both turn badly they aren't supersonic but the jaguar has aim 9gs which are better than the aim 9bs in every single way imaginable, and its at 9.7 as well
My hype went from 100 to 0 real quick looking at that BR and secondary armaments
After doing research the IAR-93 allegedly was capable of using R60's, Mavericks and Grom-1's but looking at how mediocre the flightmodel currently is the implementation of these way better secondary weapons may raise its BR to a point where it turns out to be barely useable in AirRB like for example the Su25SM3
@@mrpeaper thats the yugo variant i believe the one were getting is the romanian one
@@rubybaron6392 Yes it is but from what I found the Romanian one was also capable of carrying these armaments but I may be wrong. Trying to find proper information on that aircraft is pretty difficult
The plane just sounds like a scimitar which is at 8.7 with the same number of guns and missiles
@@mrpeaper The IAR-93 was supposed to get an upgrade package to incorporate similar weaponry as the J-22 which would of included the R-60 and Mav package but it didnt come into fruiton. It also seems that only the J-22 carried Kh-23s
I am genuinely curious at this point why gaijin is so seemingly obsessed with subsonic / barely supersonic strike aircraft
I mean, I rather like those kinds of planes. I feel they don't get a lot of attention usually
I think they're just a lot easier to build, so a lot of nations tried to build their own instead of buying jets from USA or USSR. So there are a lot more options for Gaijin to add now that they've added all pretty much all of the air superiority/multirole fighters from the Cold War era.
More like why aren't you. Bingus countries don't like making their own super sonic jets because they're expensive and explode a lot, subsonic multi-roles are cheap, so like everyone did them for a good while. If not this, you get the 21st century copy-paste of everyone using F16s
Every nation has one and you can use them in any game mode to some effectiveness.
@@charlesharris8391 for some of them sure, don’t get me wrong I have nothing against the IAR-93 but it’s an aircraft that could’ve been added a while ago, preferably in place of past vehicles that were already pretty much in the game like the Su-25BM or the A-7K. I guess to clarify I don’t mind aircraft like this but I wish we could get more unique ones like say the F-102 or the Su-15 as well as strike aircraft (as long as it isn’t just a slightly tweaked copy paste)
It’s in the Italian tech tree so it will go to 10.0 after release
WT devs: 10.3 if you don’t keep your mouth shut
@@Ace-rp7vr are u mad ? it is clearly 11.3 . take it or leave it , we don't care.
IAR-93/J-22 SOKO was response to Soviet Su-25. Romania and Yugoslavia as last resort to be more independent from Soviet equipment, because of Hungarian uprising 1956 and Praha spring 1968. Probably 10.0 BR
@@ЙоанДимитров-в4ж if they want to 10.0 they have to add 8 r 60 or idk what it called in yugoslavia but ye
Gaijin HQ: Why do we hear warcrime music?
Yugoslavs and Romanians: *loads howitzers with extreme prejudice*
This really seems to be incomplete.
The A-91 is a Romanian clone of the R-3S (which is of course the Soviet clone of the AIM-9B). I'm pretty sure that this should also get the R-60 and the A-921 (Romanian Kh-23). I think it's also supposed to be able to carry 2 AAMs on each pylon (for a maximum of 8).
4x missiles is the standard, 8x is only possible on some select few planes. And the plane only carried A-91, no wiring for R-60 capability.
the R-3S isn't exactly a clone, it's a reverse-engineered version and has it's own quirks
A 8.7-9.0 plane that is currently at 9.7 and will be 10.0 on release. got it
doesn't even get the guided missiles it should get
9.3 minimum br.
@@fennoman9241 more like 9.0 or 8.7 tbh
As a romanian this is so disappointing. Thanks Gaijin 😐.
As an iraqi i feel bad for romanians
As a Martian, i feel bad for romanians.
Dont cry u guys werent even able to make it fly for first few times😂
As a man from Neptune, I feel bad for earthlings and their simple aircraft.
@@Jovan007At least we have some unique aircraft.
right now im just waiting, because it seems its heavily unfinished (it lacks things like R60's)
on wikipedia it said it doesn't carry R-60 but its probably an incorrect statement because on further research it seems that the aircraft actually did have a loadout of 4 ( I think) R-60s
Just FYI guys. Dont use wikipedia as your origin source.
The IAR-93B´s standard set consisted of max 4x air to air missiles of A-91 variety which are romanian production R-3 missiles. Only select few IAR-9B´s were capable of 8x missile loadouts on double pylons. R-60s were not used on IAR-93.
Now the mavericks were NEVER used on IAR-93B´s nor was there any modification or such for wiring to use them, not a single reliable source states it could. Only wikipedia but the sources used for that do not mention anything about weaponry selection, letalone mavericks.
INFACT: mavericks were bought long long after IAR-93´s were retired, they came with the F-16s Romania bought in 2013. While IAR-93´s were retired in late 90s.
the wikipedia page says nothing about R-60s
@@Soobutoomuch It doesnt anymore, got it changed.
would've been cooler if they added the MiG-21 LanceR instead of this
@@shino2788 holy, a MiG-21 with f-16 avionics would be nice.
At least one Yugoslav-made airplane. It was made in cooperation with Romania and in Yugoslavia/Serbia it's called Orao (eagle)
At this br it should have 2x mavericks and 2x R-60. Thx gaijin for antoher poor event vehicle.
The IAR-93 didnt have Mavericks, only the Yugo J-22 did
@@biggietito2633 don't shoot the messenger but the wiki states it gets groms and mavericks, and also 2 more different rocket types
They could at least put the K-13 but not even that they copy paste the Aim-9b
@@jackmcaulay454 The KH-23 was used with it but the Mavs should not be on the wiki, i believe it states citation needed. The Yugo variant was able to carry Mavs as well as the Grom-B which was a KH-23 with Mav seekerhead
@@jackmcaulay454 "but the wiki states" and that's how Gaijin ignores your messeng
So I get less pylons compared to the G.91 YS but instead we get a RWR and get 2 more missiles.
Seems rough and I say this as someone who used the 91 Y to do most of my rank VI grinding
Look how they massacred my home boy
First time italy gets an event i was happy but then u see its a turd
Yeah... as a romanian i feel so fucking disapointed. They had so many options, maybe a LancerR variant of the mig21, yes i know another mig, but atleast something for us Romanians. We don't even have the modern Romanian Decal.
It should be 9.0 with this loadout. I figured it would be fine at 9.7 if it gets some of the better missiles and features like the swiss hunter but this is just ridiculous
From what I see online the A-91 is a Romanian R-13M and not an R-3S. If that's true than the BR will be justified. Lack of guided munitions is a bit sad because Italy could use those at this BR range.
At this BR area, I'm already set with the G91 and AMX. Unless this plane gets something unique added, or BR dropped, I really see no point. Most likely going to sell it on the marketplace.
it wont even be worth anything, its a minor nation jet with almost no use. Im in the same boat, just got the AMX, but im gonna keep it because its unique.
Even though Romania is my fav nation, and would love to see full sub tree of them at some point, i kinda wish gaijin would focus on adding a more full hungarian aircraft tree, and at least a few more hungarian ground vehicles before they work on Romania. And even though i dont play naval, i think Italy would benefit best from romania if they add their coastal ships first
But I think this would be a better performing mig19 in areas like energy retention at above 0.7 mach, general roll rate, and a-a armament so this wouldn't be as bad as mr canadian said in the video. (It's still not worth it)
How much will it cost? Is it worth grinding to sell?
Alpha jet nerphed bro..
does not have normal bombs
They made it so that bombs up to 300 kg of TNT equivalent must be thrown directly into the commander’s hatch, but this is not realistic.😮💨😮💨😮💨
Well there goes my enthusiasm to grind the event lol
the camouflage on the drop tank and rocket pods is so cool
Just as a reminder: The F-104C starfighter in the american tech tree is at BR 9.3 and can carry three 750lb bombs AND four Aim-9Bs at the same time. It doesn't have CCIP, but it gets a radar and one of the best guns ever put on a plane, the M61 Vulcan. In the italian tech tree you also have the G.91 YS (BR 9.3) which can carry two AIM-9Bs as well as four 1000lb bombs, zuni/mighty mouse rocket pods (or G.91 Y if you want MCLOS NORD missiles at BR 9.0, without CCIP and RWR). The G.91 is a lot more manueverable and is very competent as a fighter, though you do lose the RWR.
There are some sources saying the IAR 93B could carry up to 8 air to air missiles with twin rails for each pylon, and some sources claiming that it could use R-60s as well. I did a deep dive trying to find a source that explicitly says which missile they use. I found a lot of websites, documents and aeronautical studies on the plane, but none of them says outright which missiles the plane used. If anyone is interested, this is the reddit post: www.reddit.com/r/Warthunder/comments/1h04env/someone_has_recently_edited_the_iar93_vultur_and/
I was hyped for this plane like 4-5 years ago when supersonics weren't even out yet, and it could exist along side other trans sonic aircraft.
I think this is a bit too late but glad its finally in I wonder if its same model that the one guy made like 3 years ago?
The A-91 is actually based of the russion R-3S, not the AIM-9B.
The R-3S is a reverse engineered AIM-9B, though, so by transative property.
Compare it to the Saab 105g, if they have countermeasures, it’ll be way better then the Saab giving it reason for the br
Gijian just hates italy and as an Italian main I have come to accept that
This looks like something I'd design in SP as an attack aircraft
1:32 Engines should have 1814 kgf (4000 lbf) thrust and 2268 kgf (5000 lbf) with afterburner
These specs are public, both on INCAS website and on pictures from IAR 93 brochure. Why is it lower ?
Also why not 5 x 500 Kg bombs and the 4 x 100 kg bomb racks are missing completely.
I'm still gonna grind it since I'm a Romanian myself, but I'm disappointed I'm seeing what this plane has, especially being nearly at 10.0 BR.....
Where is my 32-64 countermeasures, R60s, Mavericks and Grom-1s????
IAR-93/J-22 SOKO was response to Soviet Su-25. Romania and Yugoslavia as last resort to be more independent from Soviet equipment if war brakes lose. Romanian use two MiG-17 engines, while Yugo use two British engines.
Do you get the plane or just discount?
So is there going to be one more update for this year or will this be in the first major update of next year?
Italy suffers
Confused why this thing isnt going to get R-60s like it had and just put it at 9.3. Its basically a slightly better yak-38 at that point that wouldnt overheat to shit and hopefully have decent performance
@@frankpresuto4316 because it didn’t get R-60s
It was proposed in 1996 to extend it life but was retired instead, same goes for Kh23
Now it makes sense the 35k mission points...
Is there a audio issue when you pronounce the s in ur words in the beginning of the video cause it actually hurt I’m not mad don’t worry
Hopefully Gaijin actually buffs the plane after release, which they never do but I hope
what is the obsession gaijin has of putting planes that dont get flares into 9.7
I wonder where the R-60s are
The snail never give Guedo a fair shake …… ‘whatchaaa gunna do’
I will try grinding for it so I have a attack aircraft for high tier as I am grinding the Italian tree right now
Try getting the tech tree AMX, does the same job at a bit of a higher BR, but the Loadout options and the Vulcan justify the slight uptiers.
@ the only way for me to get that one is to pay since I am not in a squadron to get the grinding points and I would prefer to not join a squadron because my introverted mind prefers being alone.
GSh cannons do not fire at the same time!
They fire one after the other so you DO NOT have 4 guns, you have 2
As one barrel fire it triggers the second barrel with its recoil and as such it cannot fire for a long period of time becuase the fire rate is super fast, thats why GSh cannons have low ammos counts compared to american vulcans
Gaijin just give it 8 r60's countermeasures agm65 and make it 10.7...
Looks like it gonna be a event vehicle I Am not gonna grind for
The document that i saw it mostly stated that it carry just bomb and missile no advance stuff
It should've had R-60s, im pretty sure the IAR-93 had pylons for R60s (Idk about R60MK's)
the test drive doesn't work ig they are working to change it
I was hoping this would be 9.3 to go with the ground line up.
9.3 vehicle for both ARB and GRB, if anything.
Hey at least its not a 1:1 Worse Copy of a Tech tree vehicle, that counts for something..... right..........right?
every one is complaining that this thing doesn't have flares but at the same time the mig 23 bn is at the same br and doesn't have flares or missiles, at least they added missiles to this plane
for me it looks like 9.0 or 8.7 depending on t/w ratio
8:45 I’d go with the Italian meme
Ideal plane to Ace Combat 8. 50 years of Avione Craiova IAR-93 Vultur/SOKO J-22 Orao in 2024.
At 9.7 every match is going to be an uptier to 10.3 with no flares and mid missiles, I guess I’m happy I don’t have to play for the next two weeks but wow what a disappointment
No flares? How is ajiyt 9.3 when it outperforms this in every way? This should be 9.0 tops
I don't know why they didn't gave that thing mavericks
yeah dw
the alpha jet didn't get it's mavericks or aim-9s either
Cause it never had mavericks.
expecting the iar 99 to be much better if added
Am I able to get this plane? My highest tier on a tree is rank 2 US planes
You should get a rank 3 to start making progress
The engines overheat and die quicker than a harriers on 110%, acceleration is bad and losses a lot of speed in turns
-tested on a desert map
it's like a g91 and an f5 had a kid
You can add this to the future Yugo tree since it was designed by Soko from Yugoslavia
It's a joint development with Romania
@ Yeah i know, the Serbian army still uses the modernised version its called J22 Orao 2.0, it has all sorts of new stuff as thermals, lasers, GPS guided bombs, guided missiles..
Quite weird we get IAR-93B as an event vehicle and there is a little hope to get A and MB variants since it's known that Nova29R didn't work on those.
As for BR, well, it's Italy, Gaijin loves to overtier their planes and then fill TT with copypaste saying there are no good vehicles in the tech tree.
oh ok so this was the model that nova worked on 5 years ago, been hoping for this thing for ages but i thought it would get AGM's and some of the other stuff I've seen in documents but maybe it was a different model/export in this case?
@AsthmaQueen as far as I understand there is no proof that Romanian 93s used guided munitions, countermeasures or better AAMs (R-60 or R-13M). Yugoslavia equipped/tested their J-22 with Bullpaps and countermeasures, so it should get them once added. For IAR I think it would nice to just decrease BR, from test drive I enjoyed its acceleration and FM in general, but imo it shouldn't be higher than 9.3, kinda similar plane to G.91YS.
@@ArsenyPro its way worse than a YS. other than the 2 extra missiles, the flight performance is way better. this thing should drop at 8.7 in air, probably 9.0 in ground, just like the alpha jet.
@@ArsenyPro Interesting I saw image posted of it with kh23 groms lined up so assumed it got 2 normally
@AsthmaQueen are you sure it isn't J-22?
9.7 strike aircraft with no flares 😵💫
A93 should have r60 AAM, KH23 and AGM65 but ok
I mean the alpha jet didn't get the mavericks it used either but I mean this is gaijin what do you expect
No. Why do speds keep repeating this.
Completely different plane from another country.
IAR-93B should have R-3S (A-91) and Kh-23, not R-60 or AGM-65.
@@fennoman9241 my bad, the AGM, R60s and KH23 are only for the Yugo J22
It’s missing a few armaments, mainly the Kh-23 guided missiles
@@tangohotel2599 never used only the J-22 did
@ while it didn’t use them, it could mount them. The weapon exclusive to the J-22 is the Mavericks, which could also be mounted on the IAR-93 with some slight modifications to that craft
@ by the time Romania acquired mavericks it was already retired
Avionics inside the J-22 compared to the IAR-63 especially when it came to guidance systems
J-22 started being integrated for Grom and mavs in the late 1980s however in 1996 similar plans were proposed by Romania but never happened
Was also plans by Romania to stick a radar in the thing but again it didn’t happen
I think it has flares, please add them gaijin.
The plane is missing loadout...
so hyped for this
i was hyped until i saw the loadout its just a worse jaguar at the same br
I mean the japanese T2 is 9.7 and other than supersonic it has legit nothing xD just gotta fling it to dodge missiles
Both are bad but t2 at least gets decent missiles
were are the r-60 and mavericks... disappointing but I can spend my time on better stuff now
@@marioeckert9286 it didn’t use either that was only the Yugo J-22
IAR-93 only used unguided munition through its life
If they're not going to give this thing countermeasures (which i think they should, but kinda like the MiG-23M and the CM pod), they should at least give it decent IR missiles like the K-13M or M-1 or R-60/60M, and guided ordinance. Perhaps the Kh-23 family or the agm-65B if it was implemented onto the aircraft.
the romanian IAR 93 didnt had counter measure only the updated yugoslav one had
@cornersofromania5826 i was wondering if they could add an external CM pod of some kind. It's unfortunate that it never got any built in CMs.
If i get it grinding passively then good, otherwise looks meh
Also, it dropped down to 9.0
It is missing the Mavericks...
8.7-9.0 vehicle at best with the current armaments.
Seems like a budget jaguar.
Seems pretty disappointing...even if Id compare it to A-7K - the only other vehicle that I grinded out...
All i'm seeing from this is that we're gonna get an extremely gimped version of a Jaguar. Great....
Popably just a max 9.0 plane at a GJ BR -.-
Was also hyped, but now? Not anymore, looks like I gona have a lot of time in near future xDD
Things probably going to be dirt cheap on the market.
Should be at 9.0 or 9.3 at max.
i will se emy country in game more and also its very good for me so...i love it
I hope gaijin will give it to e R-60 and Mavericks. It can use them.
Mavericks were only found on the Yugoslavian version. The Romanian version was limited to Soviet weapons.
@ ok so for the Romanian variant KH-23 grom
@@Bob_games9 Yes.
where is the maverick and where is the R-60. omg
Wiki is wrong it did not carry Mavs only the J22 did
Maverick is on J22 Yu variant
@@biggietito2633 it still carried kh 23 ml and r60s tho not just stupid aim 9bs
To be honest the J-8Peace Pearl would have been a way better option than this lackluster strike aircraft . I think ill pass on this . Its just missile bait at this point
“Why is the br so high?” Because it’s under Italy that’s why
Without the missiles it's an Alpha Jet.
funnily enough the Alpha Jet should have fuckin missiles x3
It should get R-60s
There’s 4 9Bs at 8.7 let alone 9.0
I wait for the bit where he thanks lefush
So the alpha jet is just better and it's 8.7 and has countermeasures. The fact this can carry 4 shitty a2a missiles does not warrant an entire BR increase lol.
I guess I’ll just skip the event and pick it up on the market for $0.86 then wtf
Please, I want at least the 8 AIM-9Bs
Why is this an event vehicle? there are so many cool unique and wacky vehicles that they could have added and its just a basic 9.0 strike aircraft like usual it feels lazy honestly
0 counter measures in 9.7
oof...
It's like the situation with the jaguar gr 1 they don't have flares, but the jaguar has a chaff pod, they both turn badly they aren't supersonic but the jaguar has aim 9gs which are better than the aim 9bs in every single way imaginable, and its at 9.7 as well
The cockpit text is in Russian?? should be Romanian. weird