One thing you missed: You need some of the 4Layer Forever Pack memory cards. They don't have a battery (like in the official memory cards) so you don't have to worry about losing your saves.
While you do need a N64 memory card (controller pak) for some games, you can backup the N64 memory card onto the SD card with the Everdrive 64! You can even have a different backup for each game, or different controller slots. If your memory card ran out of battery and you lost your saves on it, you could retrieve them from the SD card.
I'd highly recommend getting a Retrofrog Wireless Dongle support for Retro Fighter's or Retrobit's controllers. The dongle support prevents the controller's receiver's weight from adding stress in the port because over time, the weight of the receiver can damage the interior. Between the 2 wireless controllers, I find Retrobit's N64 Tribute to be the better one. Feels less cheap and more comfortable.
I’ll have to check those out for sure. I love the feel of the RetroFighters but I don’t believe I’ve ever held a Retrobit version. Thanks for your comment!
2:50 Retro-bit's Wireless Tribute 64 is the SUPERIOR modernized controller. Fight me and split the fandom, fellow N64 fanboys. Also, I'd have to disagree that the original controller wasn't comfortable or ergonomic. Just a weird layout and the stick wears easily (but only needs injection-molded plastic to fix).
I came to the N64 party late and I love this console. My current setup is EverDrive64, BlueRetro wireless adapter + NSO N64 controller, shielded S-video cable into a RetroTink5X
@@retroperfection81 I'd say it was marginal and at a cost of £40 it was probably not worth it, especially as the one I got came from Switzerland and so had additional costs (postage etc). Saying that, the build quality of the cable is undeniable and I got to purchase an original Hori N64 controller at the same time.
I'd say getting the NSO N64 Controller with a BlueRetro Bluetooth Adapter is better than the Brawler when it comes to playing the games as they're designed to. The Brawler is more sensitive and in FPS games this is noticable. Rumble works accurately and the BlueRetro has 4 memory slots. Only hassle is that in order to use the memory slots you have to connect to the BlueRetro adapter via Phone/PC bluetooth and format the memory slots in order to use them in games but once that's done it's smooth sailing.
Well I have the N64 with S-Video and a RetroTink 2X Pro (which was $130 when I bought it)...but I've just been debating for the last 9 months or so to splurge on the Everdrive 64 X7 or just go with an ED64 Plus. I obviously know which is better...but the X7 is TWO HUNDRED DOLLARS...before shipping and tax and I still need to buy the MicroSD card. So it's roughly $250 when all is said and done...and every time I'm close to pulling the trigger, I pull back. Christmas time usually affords me some disposable income (I get money from family every year)...but $250 is still steep. Steep enough that it makes me question my monetary decisions. There's a lot of positives to consider, but something always makes me think otherwise. If it was $100 cheaper, I would have had it by now.
I have an ed64 plus man honestly it works just fine I got it for 70 I believe I maybe one day will upgrade but for now it’s fire and I get to play what I want
So yeah, it wasn’t long after this video that I had someone offer me $450 for this whole setup and I took it. Two reasons: 1) I have a MiSTer FPGA setup and it rocks. N64 plays very smooth on there, even on a CRT. 2) the N64 came out right as I was a senior in high school, so I never owned one and never had one until much later. So I didn’t have any nostalgia attached to it. Totally agree with you though, the Everdrive is stupidly expensive. Shouldn’t be that much.
Currently have a 5X sitting in my cart off the website, I just can't pull the trigger on a fucking 300 dollar upscaler no matter how sick it is. (And luckily I'm not even considering the FrameMeister that sits at a whopping 500 bucks.
Definitely can comment on the og controller design: At 8-12 years old like we were at the time, we thought it was a UNIQUE and CHARMING controller, but NOT A GOOD ONE! 2:05
Available in lots of places brother. Shells are pretty widely available. And prices have went up on everything it seems but down on retro games, so it might be time to snag one.
Yeah I wouldn’t. It’s going to have a lot of lag. I would recommend a scaler, never a cheap adapter for HDMI. The RetroTink products do an outstanding job with that. Some are very affordable, but they are not cheap adapters.
I'm not just trolling or being awkward but I switched off immediately when the first thing you added was the Retro Fighters controller. Looks the part, perhaps, but the stick sensitivity/gate on this thing is all wrong. Makes playing some games excruciatingly either twitchy or dull.
I can understand that, I haven’t had any problems. You seem like a guy that needs the OG experience with original or near-original controllers, and that’s just fine. However, most people just want to play their games they remember as a kid and don’t care about any of that. I would consider myself a highly sensitive (and anal) gamer and I have no problem with this controller. But I also didn’t grow up with the 64, I was a few years older and grew up on the NES, Genesis, and SNES. So I completely understand where you’re coming from when you complain about about the stick on the Retro Fighters - my d-pads have to be perfect for me to play my old school NES games. So I understand. But I guess my whole point is that 95% of the people playing just won’t care about that.
Yea I prefer the original controllers. If I absolutely have to replace the stick with a modern stick, I've found the 8bitdo hall effect stick works much more nicely and accurate than the retro fighters and other after market controllers. I do not however like to use it with the rest of the wireless 8bitdo kit, bc with the current state of the firmware, it makes the stick overly sensitive similar to brawlers. If you use the 8bitdo hall effect stick in a regular old wired controller, it works very well. I'm very picky about accuracy too. I will take an original stick any time first.
The original controllers have their benefits. When the control stick is in good condition on an original controller, it is actually significantly more precise than modern controllers. Modern control sticks can feel far too sensitive in some games, making fine and precise adjustments much more difficult. Modern control sticks use potentiometers, whereas the N64 original controllers use optical sensors which are actually more precise. The huge downside of the old N64 sticks is that they degrade relatively fast over time, though you can reduce the rate of this by using silicon based lubricant (either powder or gel). Brand new OEM controllers are highly valued by many speed runners, but my own personal opinion is also that OEM controllers in good condition feel better in some games because of how precise they feel. You can buy replacement parts which are more or less the same as the factory original parts, but they seem to be a little bit less consistent and a little less precise than the originals, but the parts are cheap and relatively easy to replace yourself, and even if it's not getting quite as good as a brand new OEM control stick, it will likely be far superior to a control stick which has seen significant wear. The only good brand I know for those is Kitch Bent. The parts for a full replacement come to around 6 USD, but you'll want to buy a bunch at once to save on shipping costs, which could be around 10-20 USD (or more) depending on where you're ordering from. There are also metal control stick parts which significantly improve the reliability of the sticks, and will retain the precision of a brand new control stick for a long time (though they are not all equal, as different people have made them). Nobody has ever managed to produce them quickly enough to meet demand, so people have often had to wait YEARS before getting them, and some people have gotten screwed over by sellers who took their money and then never filled the order. Good quality metal control sticks are HIGHLY prized by speed runners, and have sometimes sold for thousands of dollars.
Thats the exact setup I am going for. Got the red wireless brawler controller ordered and want a red n64 and will sell my og one. What is an everdrive?
The n64 library is very manageable. The whole thing, all 300 games, fits on a 4 gig SD card.
2:37 real start of the video
One thing you missed: You need some of the 4Layer Forever Pack memory cards. They don't have a battery (like in the official memory cards) so you don't have to worry about losing your saves.
you dont need the memory cards for an everdrive. it saves to the memory card. before you turn off the N64 you hit reset to initiate the save
@GETBENT1331 not all games save to the everdrive/cart so you'll need external memory cards for those.
While you do need a N64 memory card (controller pak) for some games, you can backup the N64 memory card onto the SD card with the Everdrive 64! You can even have a different backup for each game, or different controller slots. If your memory card ran out of battery and you lost your saves on it, you could retrieve them from the SD card.
I'd highly recommend getting a Retrofrog Wireless Dongle support for Retro Fighter's or Retrobit's controllers. The dongle support prevents the controller's receiver's weight from adding stress in the port because over time, the weight of the receiver can damage the interior.
Between the 2 wireless controllers, I find Retrobit's N64 Tribute to be the better one. Feels less cheap and more comfortable.
I’ll have to check those out for sure. I love the feel of the RetroFighters but I don’t believe I’ve ever held a Retrobit version. Thanks for your comment!
There’s I believe a 3d print that helps with the retro fighter to stop that weight
I am getting back into N64 i Finally took it out of storage its cool to see the N64 still gling strong
I’m down to try these wireless controllers but why is no one talking about the modded OG controllers with the GameCube joysticks?
I prefer the 8bitdo gamecube style joystick replacement over the retrofighters brawler 64.
2:50 Retro-bit's Wireless Tribute 64 is the SUPERIOR modernized controller.
Fight me and split the fandom, fellow N64 fanboys.
Also, I'd have to disagree that the original controller wasn't comfortable or ergonomic. Just a weird layout and the stick wears easily (but only needs injection-molded plastic to fix).
I can see your point!
Just discovered your channel and has dhown me some great stuff for N64. I had one back in school in 1998 and now i want one again lok
This Nintendo 64 took me years to get all the different parts but I’m very happy with it! What are some of your favorite mods for the 64?
I won't lie brother, 75 bucks for a shell is INSANE. A decent purple dream cast translucent shell is like 15 bucks on Ebay all day.
this dude kept improving himself, theese videos are inspiring
Thank you so much, I’m going to try to start making videos on this channel again soon!
I came to the N64 party late and I love this console. My current setup is EverDrive64, BlueRetro wireless adapter + NSO N64 controller, shielded S-video cable into a RetroTink5X
Cool! Do you notice a better picture with a shielded vs unshielded cable?
@@retroperfection81 I'd say it was marginal and at a cost of £40 it was probably not worth it, especially as the one I got came from Switzerland and so had additional costs (postage etc). Saying that, the build quality of the cable is undeniable and I got to purchase an original Hori N64 controller at the same time.
I'd say getting the NSO N64 Controller with a BlueRetro Bluetooth Adapter is better than the Brawler when it comes to playing the games as they're designed to. The Brawler is more sensitive and in FPS games this is noticable. Rumble works accurately and the BlueRetro has 4 memory slots.
Only hassle is that in order to use the memory slots you have to connect to the BlueRetro adapter via Phone/PC bluetooth and format the memory slots in order to use them in games but once that's done it's smooth sailing.
Well I have the N64 with S-Video and a RetroTink 2X Pro (which was $130 when I bought it)...but I've just been debating for the last 9 months or so to splurge on the Everdrive 64 X7 or just go with an ED64 Plus. I obviously know which is better...but the X7 is TWO HUNDRED DOLLARS...before shipping and tax and I still need to buy the MicroSD card. So it's roughly $250 when all is said and done...and every time I'm close to pulling the trigger, I pull back. Christmas time usually affords me some disposable income (I get money from family every year)...but $250 is still steep. Steep enough that it makes me question my monetary decisions. There's a lot of positives to consider, but something always makes me think otherwise. If it was $100 cheaper, I would have had it by now.
I have an ed64 plus man honestly it works just fine I got it for 70 I believe I maybe one day will upgrade but for now it’s fire and I get to play what I want
So yeah, it wasn’t long after this video that I had someone offer me $450 for this whole setup and I took it. Two reasons: 1) I have a MiSTer FPGA setup and it rocks. N64 plays very smooth on there, even on a CRT. 2) the N64 came out right as I was a senior in high school, so I never owned one and never had one until much later. So I didn’t have any nostalgia attached to it.
Totally agree with you though, the Everdrive is stupidly expensive. Shouldn’t be that much.
Currently have a 5X sitting in my cart off the website, I just can't pull the trigger on a fucking 300 dollar upscaler no matter how sick it is. (And luckily I'm not even considering the FrameMeister that sits at a whopping 500 bucks.
You can buy a converter to hdmi cables cheap
Yeah but they probably add lag and they don’t look very good either. A lot of those brands promise a lot and don’t deliver.
Definitely can comment on the og controller design: At 8-12 years old like we were at the time, we thought it was a UNIQUE and CHARMING controller, but NOT A GOOD ONE! 2:05
Hoping you come back soon and make that video about s-video brother!
I recommend the kaico N64 HDMI adapter. Works nice to double lines and use that s video signal.
honestly, I just need the everdrive card and it feels already perfect.
Love the ATP shirt
6:06 some PAL N64s do not support S-Video.
Anyone know where to get a 48 pin cartrage connector replacement?
i grew up with the atari 8 bit computers.
I wasn’t too far behind you, the NES and SNES were my main consoles growing up. I never actually owned a 64 growing up.
How come no mention of that memory Card adapter that you plugged into the controller port and most importantly where to buy it?
That’s just the wireless adapter for the controller I mentioned. It’s not a separate product. That’s just the way they designed it.
You got a new sub 😁
Hey man really appreciate your support!
Well my #1 favorite is Banjo - Kazooie.
Can the Retro Brawlers be wired and w9uld you recommend them to be wired?
Where can I get one?
Available in lots of places brother. Shells are pretty widely available. And prices have went up on everything it seems but down on retro games, so it might be time to snag one.
Video converter not recommended going from s-video to hdmi?
Yeah I wouldn’t. It’s going to have a lot of lag. I would recommend a scaler, never a cheap adapter for HDMI. The RetroTink products do an outstanding job with that. Some are very affordable, but they are not cheap adapters.
Soooo........it should be called the 4 most common mods.
No not really. Actually didn’t mod the system at all. Maybe “4 common add-ons?”
@@retroperfection81 That's even better
Is there an ever drive that all ready has the nes games snes comparable and 64 rom hacks on it I dont really want to to fidgit with sd cards
No unfortunately not. They wouldn’t be able to do that legally. But that’s an easy download on something like an ARCHIVE
This is just a better produced John Hancock video. He posted nearly the name video in January of ‘23
Nah, the Summer Cart 64 is waaaay better than the Everdrive 64.
You can play the 64DD games on the flashcart !
I'm not just trolling or being awkward but I switched off immediately when the first thing you added was the Retro Fighters controller. Looks the part, perhaps, but the stick sensitivity/gate on this thing is all wrong. Makes playing some games excruciatingly either twitchy or dull.
I can understand that, I haven’t had any problems. You seem like a guy that needs the OG experience with original or near-original controllers, and that’s just fine. However, most people just want to play their games they remember as a kid and don’t care about any of that. I would consider myself a highly sensitive (and anal) gamer and I have no problem with this controller. But I also didn’t grow up with the 64, I was a few years older and grew up on the NES, Genesis, and SNES. So I completely understand where you’re coming from when you complain about about the stick on the Retro Fighters - my d-pads have to be perfect for me to play my old school NES games. So I understand. But I guess my whole point is that 95% of the people playing just won’t care about that.
Yea I prefer the original controllers. If I absolutely have to replace the stick with a modern stick, I've found the 8bitdo hall effect stick works much more nicely and accurate than the retro fighters and other after market controllers. I do not however like to use it with the rest of the wireless 8bitdo kit, bc with the current state of the firmware, it makes the stick overly sensitive similar to brawlers. If you use the 8bitdo hall effect stick in a regular old wired controller, it works very well. I'm very picky about accuracy too. I will take an original stick any time first.
I will take it all and extra contloers
Wireless controls, no thanks , I stick with wired like a normal person
I get that. I’m incredibly anal and would also prefer just to play with a wire honestly. But most people just don’t care.
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Nope won't resell, I have the special edition pikschu n64, along with the controller, both still in great condition
nice!
The original controllers have their benefits. When the control stick is in good condition on an original controller, it is actually significantly more precise than modern controllers. Modern control sticks can feel far too sensitive in some games, making fine and precise adjustments much more difficult. Modern control sticks use potentiometers, whereas the N64 original controllers use optical sensors which are actually more precise. The huge downside of the old N64 sticks is that they degrade relatively fast over time, though you can reduce the rate of this by using silicon based lubricant (either powder or gel). Brand new OEM controllers are highly valued by many speed runners, but my own personal opinion is also that OEM controllers in good condition feel better in some games because of how precise they feel.
You can buy replacement parts which are more or less the same as the factory original parts, but they seem to be a little bit less consistent and a little less precise than the originals, but the parts are cheap and relatively easy to replace yourself, and even if it's not getting quite as good as a brand new OEM control stick, it will likely be far superior to a control stick which has seen significant wear. The only good brand I know for those is Kitch Bent. The parts for a full replacement come to around 6 USD, but you'll want to buy a bunch at once to save on shipping costs, which could be around 10-20 USD (or more) depending on where you're ordering from.
There are also metal control stick parts which significantly improve the reliability of the sticks, and will retain the precision of a brand new control stick for a long time (though they are not all equal, as different people have made them). Nobody has ever managed to produce them quickly enough to meet demand, so people have often had to wait YEARS before getting them, and some people have gotten screwed over by sellers who took their money and then never filled the order. Good quality metal control sticks are HIGHLY prized by speed runners, and have sometimes sold for thousands of dollars.
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it's not the n64 I want.
Ok you do you bro!
Thats the exact setup I am going for. Got the red wireless brawler controller ordered and want a red n64 and will sell my og one. What is an everdrive?
Everdrive allows you to play games on an SD, but through a cartridge-based FPGA chip. Thanks for watching!
@ You think the analogue is worth it or better an N64 with a super eon?