3:20 Good on ya' for purchasing the pillar/post stand-off for the NVMe card. It's the right way to do it. 💯 9:20 As is the use of thread-locker as you explain.
Also, side note for anyone in the US, you do not have to be concerned about "Warranty Void If Removed" stickers on devices. They are not enforceable in the US due to FTC regulations.
@@djp_video Good call. Besides, I suppose that could be a dated point too. Great job on video though. Really enjoyed it and learned a few things... Like, I had no idea you could long press REC to switch media. lol I should read the manual. lol
@@CNC-Time-Lapse The product website already mentions "Any qualified service technician will find it extremely easy to remove the HyperDeck lid and plug in a new media interface card!" so they are already expecting people to be removing the lid anyway. It's what's classed as a "user serviceable part".
Possibly. I don't do quite enough replay at real events that I'll have an opportunity to test it in a production environment, but if I can simulate one with equipment I already have I just might.
This is a great video, thank you Doug. I’m in the process of attempting using a new HyperDeck and in my case the disassembly of case is problematic because one of the screws is under a sticker, and the implication of removing is that I would be violating the warranty. Doug: did you have to remove any Blackmagic stickers to get all of the screws out?
This is fantastic news. I was wondering if you could test pulling the the 2.5" SSD mid recording, reinsert, and then test the quality of the playback. I recall someone saying that this was possible on the Hyperdeck Extreme 8K.
I really wish the internal drive could store on the internal drive (NVMe) and SSD for having backups (At least 2 Copies). I think the NVMe is going to essential for Network recording as well.
Not sure if you are aware of how this particular NVME SSD leverages your system RAM to buffer, hence therefore seemingly "faster" than other NVME SSDs you had tested? Yes, they are quite fast for sure, however very much dependent on your system. I am kinda curious as to why the WD SN850X did so poorly. Should be either the fastest or second only to Samsung 990 Pro. In this scenario however, the NM790 should do just fine, since the speeds required are "only" SATA speeds, which the NVME SSDs can mostly do without breaking much of a sweat.
Yes, I am aware of that. I tested it both internally and externally in a USB enclosure where host RAM isn't available, and it still was meaningfully faster than the Samsung 980 Pro and 990 Pro I tested it against. I can promise that my test system didn't have 4 TB of RAM to buffer that entire drive's contents. I'll have to re-run the test and publish the numbers I got with the NM790 in a USB enclosure. But it was impressive for what the drive is. I can't really explain the performance of the SN850X. It seems like it should outperform both of the Samsungs. It's certainly more consistent than the Samsungs. For the most part it does perform really well up until it runs out of DRAM and SLC cache, at which point the performance tanks. www.djprod.biz/diskperformance.php?id=zSypfuFfqtIxBbTGv0g4. The 980/990 Pro seem to have relatively small SLC caches. I've frankly been a little disappointed with those drives.
@@djp_video Impressive and thank you very much for your quick response. Will have to revisit this with all the drives piling up here. Just to clarify, I LOVE the NM790, these are just such an underrated piece of equipment.
That entirely depends on the video format (resolution and frame rate), codec used, and to some degree the type of content. For example, a 1080p29.97 video recorded in ProRes, with not a lot of motion like the videos I do here on this channel, a 2 hour file would be about 300 GB. At 1080p59.94, it would be just a little less than double that.
What happens is you just use the cache instead of any SSD's disks or USB drives? I assume that you would generate a list of files and be able to transfer the files off the cache just like the other media. In this case via ethernet?
The cache is pretty much inaccessible. To get to the files you need to insert an SSD, SD Card, or USB drive and allow time for the data to transfer. It's meant just as a temporary place to hold files and data isn't meant to stay there any longer than it has to.
@@djp_video Thanks. I actually thought they would be accessible via the ethernet connection as a list of files since you can do that with the other types of media. Thanks for confirming it doesn't work that way.
Great find on the Lexar NVMe. Going to pick one up. Cheers.
Big thanks for testing this out. And yes, I originally did my firmware update via Ethernet connection.
Thank You, Doug much appreciated. I will upgrade my unit right away.
3:20 Good on ya' for purchasing the pillar/post stand-off for the NVMe card. It's the right way to do it. 💯 9:20 As is the use of thread-locker as you explain.
Really cool! Thanks for sharing
fantastic
Dude! This is awesome! I'm going to upgrade mine. Thanks so cool! Thanks for letting us know about this. That's so sweet!
Also, side note for anyone in the US, you do not have to be concerned about "Warranty Void If Removed" stickers on devices. They are not enforceable in the US due to FTC regulations.
I thought about bringing that up in the video... but decided not to stray off topic... didn't want to go down that rabbit hole.
@@djp_video Good call. Besides, I suppose that could be a dated point too.
Great job on video though. Really enjoyed it and learned a few things... Like, I had no idea you could long press REC to switch media. lol I should read the manual. lol
@@CNC-Time-Lapse The product website already mentions "Any qualified service technician will find it extremely easy to remove the HyperDeck lid and plug in a new media interface card!" so they are already expecting people to be removing the lid anyway. It's what's classed as a "user serviceable part".
I love your Wera Screwdriver. I have a lot of Wera in my EDC!
Great tools!
Sweet. Thanks for the update. Have any plans on testing the new davinci replay?
Possibly. I don't do quite enough replay at real events that I'll have an opportunity to test it in a production environment, but if I can simulate one with equipment I already have I just might.
You smile like it's a new toy on Christmas. Enjoy Bro.
This is a great video, thank you Doug. I’m in the process of attempting using a new HyperDeck and in my case the disassembly of case is problematic because one of the screws is under a sticker, and the implication of removing is that I would be violating the warranty. Doug: did you have to remove any Blackmagic stickers to get all of the screws out?
No. And the FTC has ruled that 'warranty void' stickers are illegal and unenforceable.
This is fantastic news. I was wondering if you could test pulling the the 2.5" SSD mid recording, reinsert, and then test the quality of the playback. I recall someone saying that this was possible on the Hyperdeck Extreme 8K.
you can check if the disk is compatible with Atem Extreme Pro Iso for recording all ISO sources, and what size disk can be used.
I really wish the internal drive could store on the internal drive (NVMe) and SSD for having backups (At least 2 Copies). I think the NVMe is going to essential for Network recording as well.
Not sure if you are aware of how this particular NVME SSD leverages your system RAM to buffer, hence therefore seemingly "faster" than other NVME SSDs you had tested?
Yes, they are quite fast for sure, however very much dependent on your system.
I am kinda curious as to why the WD SN850X did so poorly. Should be either the fastest or second only to Samsung 990 Pro.
In this scenario however, the NM790 should do just fine, since the speeds required are "only" SATA speeds, which the NVME SSDs can mostly do without breaking much of a sweat.
Yes, I am aware of that. I tested it both internally and externally in a USB enclosure where host RAM isn't available, and it still was meaningfully faster than the Samsung 980 Pro and 990 Pro I tested it against. I can promise that my test system didn't have 4 TB of RAM to buffer that entire drive's contents. I'll have to re-run the test and publish the numbers I got with the NM790 in a USB enclosure. But it was impressive for what the drive is.
I can't really explain the performance of the SN850X. It seems like it should outperform both of the Samsungs. It's certainly more consistent than the Samsungs. For the most part it does perform really well up until it runs out of DRAM and SLC cache, at which point the performance tanks. www.djprod.biz/diskperformance.php?id=zSypfuFfqtIxBbTGv0g4. The 980/990 Pro seem to have relatively small SLC caches. I've frankly been a little disappointed with those drives.
@@djp_video Impressive and thank you very much for your quick response. Will have to revisit this with all the drives piling up here.
Just to clarify, I LOVE the NM790, these are just such an underrated piece of equipment.
This would be a great application for intel optane, or hopefully the next form of it now that it's discontinued.
Hi Doug, Great Video! - What media do recommend for the main SSD's on the front panel, specifically for long recordings 1.5-2hrs?
Ssamsung 870 Evo. amzn.to/4b7mZBd www.djprod.biz/diskperformance.php?id=PUjkt3ZlM8oC2hyHblXGde
@@djp_video Thanks Doug. What capacity are your typically gravitating towards for approximately 2 hour recordings?1, 2 4 tb?
That entirely depends on the video format (resolution and frame rate), codec used, and to some degree the type of content.
For example, a 1080p29.97 video recorded in ProRes, with not a lot of motion like the videos I do here on this channel, a 2 hour file would be about 300 GB. At 1080p59.94, it would be just a little less than double that.
What happens is you just use the cache instead of any SSD's disks or USB drives? I assume that you would generate a list of files and be able to transfer the files off the cache just like the other media. In this case via ethernet?
The cache is pretty much inaccessible. To get to the files you need to insert an SSD, SD Card, or USB drive and allow time for the data to transfer. It's meant just as a temporary place to hold files and data isn't meant to stay there any longer than it has to.
@@djp_video Thanks. I actually thought they would be accessible via the ethernet connection as a list of files since you can do that with the other types of media. Thanks for confirming it doesn't work that way.
@@Justin_Allen I absolutely hope BM will consider doing so, yeah, big and cumbersome, but oh boy the speeds...
Why hyperdeck studio pro 2 not recording 2160p25 codec dnx-hd-mxf
using samsung evo ssd
DNX-HD is for HD, DNX-HR is for 4K. Does that model distinguish between the two?
@@djp_video thank u for reply hyperdeck studio pro 2 don’t have HR option in codec what codec do u prefer for 2160 p25 ProRes HQ ?
Is there a maximum size ssd we can install?
I'm not sure. But I'd bet that 4TB would be just fine.
no need for it, but nice to know