My Abandoned Rolls-Royce Made It Home! I Started Fixing It & Found A Secret Control Panel & PROBLEMS
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- Опубліковано 25 чер 2021
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Buying and Fixing the Rolls-Royce 1000 miles from home video!
• I Bought A Broken Roll...
In this video, I start fixing my Rolls-Royce and realize it needs a ton of work, has a really weird hidden control panel, and more! Enjoy!
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A brown and tan 1981 Toyota Celica Supra had a whopping 100hp for $1000 Canadian rupees
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1988 Renault R4.
Nooooooo!!!!! DON'T SAND.!!!!!
000 grade steel wool and paint stripper. Sanding will open up the grain and cause you problems plus it won't need it.
30 years veteran French polisher
bump for great justice
I agree 100%, but I don't know if RR used lacquer or shellac. However, I wouldn't recommend that "he" use paint stripper or steel wool. Neutralizing the stripper would a problem with the complex curves, and steel wool fibers break off and stay in the grain of the wood. I would start with a padding ball and the correct thinner and take time to do it right, but better yet, hire a pro. It will go faster and look better and I won't have to cancel my subscription to his channel because he screwed up that beautiful woodwork. It might not even need to be stripped. Polyurethane is a big, big, NO NO on burls like that.
Yes!
Being Rolls, likely French Polish, so you don't need any sanding whatsoever . . . the alcohol in the Shellac mix will level the roughness as the oil and shellac bring up the gloss . . . it is called, re-amalgamation. Some research, and joining a Rolls owner's club will get you to the right answer.
Great purchase . . . hope the iron and AC work, plus leather, doesn't set you back more than $7000.
Those are serviceable ball joints in the steering. You can take them apart and replace the bushings inside and reseal them.
commenting to bump useful nfo
@@mycosys I agree WTH this theroy
@@user-up7ep7ds5p #metoo
Yes
Hey!
This car does and has things that need to be maintained in different ways than modern cars your used to. Do not just jump in, research because many components can be rebuilt and refurbished instead of replaced. It is from a time where RR made them to last forever with correct care.
These handmade British cars are like Swiss Watches that have to be finessed into repairs.
spoken like someone who is as dissapointed as I am that starter brushes are impossible to find these days....
Been collecting and restoring Rolls-Royce and Bentleys for many years. Please do not sand down that wood and coat it with Poly. To the untrained eye the wood looks in good shape now but it is nowhere near the way it was when new and could use a full redo. Spend the smaller sum and do it right with one of the few big guys in the US for Rolls-Royce wood restoration you'll make it back on the resale. Join the RROC where you'll find all the info.
Commenting to bring this on top.
Yes indeed, a little knowledge goes along way. The wood needs an experienced polisher. Not a big job, but needs doing right. That will make all the difference. Dont sand it!
It was probably French polished rather than polyurethane varnished. I doubt that even existed back then.
Sand the wood and you destroy it. Treat the wood as you would an antique dining table; use a high quality English furniture wax having a beeswax base. I say again, a high quality English furniture wax, this is not a job for Pledge or polyurethane.
what he said...
That rear diff is hilarious. Looks like it came off the Titanic.
It won't come apart that's for sure.
at first look that looked like something dreamed up from an aircraft engineers brain. along with all the linkages and redundant braking system in the rear
Greg H-you’re correct, it did come from an aircraft engineers brain.
I’m in love with this car. she’s as elegant & classy as I’d expect from a vintage Rolls. someone loved & took care of her for a long time. what a great find & pickup for the channel
Agreed R.S. This style of body from 1961 is so similar to the older models which is classy indeed. The newer Rolles have moved away from that and gotten a bit too sleek and modern for my taste. I'd take this one over one of the newer models any day.
@@fgb3126
Yes I agree with you on that.
This looks really classy and you would expect to see a Lord or an Earl riding in the back of this car with a top hat and holding a glass of whisky. In the newer ones they look rather vulgar in comparison and therefore you would expect a drug dealer with gold teeth smoking a joint.
They're called lever-arm shocks and they are rebuildable too. Morris Minors had them too.
But what a gorgeous old girl, she deserves to live on and be loved...
The MG Midget from at least the mid 60s onward has lever arm shock absorbers.
@@gerrard4215 and Ford 105e Anglia’s on the rear.
@@gerrard4215 And the MGB,did a lever arm to Spax conversion on one years ago. Many Brit cars used them,generally made by Armstrong,they were crap. And yes,they are dampers,not shocks.
So glad you're fixing up the old Lady. She deserves the best.
Dry ice blasting will be perfect for it.
Plus 1 on the dry ice blasting. That will be super satisfying to watch 👍
The "boots" on the leaf springs are called "gaiters." The springs were packed with grease at the factory for noise control and the leather gaiters were put on the keep the grease in place and dirt out.
Gaiter is just the British terminology for a “boot” on a car. Steering rack gaiter, axle gaiter, etc.
@@howard81 You wrap the spring with greased bandage first. Yes they keep dirt out and lubricate the leaves. They're made by Wefco.
Had to repack waggon spring gaiters when I was a sprog. Nasty old job gave me spots, hated it.
@@therealrobertbirchall personally I would just oil and grease them,wrap them with strips of reinforced plastic and again with black leather straps from an old dumped sofa and tie wrap in place. Economical ecology at its best. They'll last well and work much better with age.
Actually they were filled with oil but other than that, you are spot on.
What an absolute stunner, this car looks so nice, really glad you are saving it, and taking us along for the journey! 🙌
There are 2 ways to do something.
One is right and
The other is over.
This Rolls is a gem!
Please please
Do it right.
👍
The detailing would be a great collab with Ammo nyc.
Totally agree with this! Please don’t sand on that original wood. Research on this before proceeding. I also probably would not Polyurethane it either. Wouldn’t be period correct and something like Linseed oil would probably end a better finish for it. Just proceed with caution, some of this can really detract from the value if done wrong or with modern finishes. Love the car, videos and your editing as well - nice work.
Would love to see this collab
I would think Larry at Ammo would enjoy working his Ammo magic on this car, or at least guiding you through what to do. Besides, a road trip from Chicago to Connecticut in this Rolls would be fun.
@@fatherdmj Larry could set-up Alex's detail area in his new shop.
Dude, yes. Imagine watching him clean the under carriage? So satisfying.
Apple Hydraulics can rebuild your lever shocks. They did a great job on my Triumph’s shocks.
Second this suggestion.
My Dad had identical year from new, they have a substantial amount of grease nipples underside for lubrication, ask a seasoned rolls mechanic. In the correct hands, they last a lifetime.
SU carbs are easy to maintain. Keep the main vacuum chamber clean for smooth needle graduation. The metal mesh air cleaner element can be soaked in gasoline to clean.
It’s really important to pull the brake drums and inspect the slave cylinders and condition of the brake shoes. Plan on sending out all 4 brake drums for resurfacing, replace the brake shoes and rebuild the slave cylinders. You’ll have years of good service and confidence that a sudden stop won’t put that grill into the back of another vehicle.
This Cloud II is in fantastic mechanical condition and the bodywork is amazing - no rust.
Lots of service parts available online from the UK. That twin SU fuel pump is new - keep a spare one in the boot. New gas gums them up.
Good advice👍🇬🇧
The gauge readings looked like a stuck expansion valve that would explain the wierd recovery too
Agreed.
But somewhere along the line, someone replaced the service valves on the compressor for modern "Aeroquip" connectors, so I guess it has been converted to the "greener" R134a from the original R12. (Probably a requirement in some states [?])
York compressors are prone to shaft seal failures it surprised me there was ANY gas still in there. (Seals tended to dry out when the vehicle was stood or the AC was not used for a while.)
On the previous video, someone commented that the AC system must have been an aftersales fit.....& I disagreed. However, on seeing the hoses disappearing into that shroud in the rear of the wheel arch and the modern P-Clip ....I'm now not so sure .!
LOL… you had me for a moment. “I need to fix the exhaust” as you showcase removal of the hub cap. Haha!!!
You can't just stare at this automobile and not smile from ear to ear! What a lovely piece of machinery! Overengineering at it's finest. Can't wait to see more!
Loving these videos. The wonderful thing about an old classic is you don't have to keep up with the Jones's anymore. You've got something unique very few people know how to look after.
Definitely restore those leather leaf spring covers. They need a lot of ❤️
This looks to be a very nice project. Very interesting to see the technical side of it. I am extremely interested. Roland from good old Germany
Man I love this so much. I wish more youtubers would take on proper classic car projects like this. They are so cool and interesting!
A simply beautiful, magnificent car, and an important piece of automotive history.
Awesome video of looking forward to the next Rolls-Royce video that is definitely a keeper real nice looking classic.
Would love to see the underbody dry ice blasted
Really good idea
Same. was going to post this.
I was just about to post this, too! Love watching those ice blasting videos, and would love to see the Alex Palmieri treatment to that process, as well as what should be done to protect the newly-cleaned undercarriage from even Chicago levels of salt. Love these old cars… nice change from the other cars LSC typically works on, even though I love those, too. In fact, Alex, you inspired me to get an E320 CDI, so people DO pay attention to your channel. Thanks for making these videos!
Totally agreed..
The engineering on the steering was a joint effort
🤣🤣🤣
Bravo
I don’t think those nuts were original. They would’ve been brass originally but normally they are deep brass nuts that are taller than a regular nut. The thought was the deep nuts had more thread contact and the brass wouldn’t rust to the studs.
Agreed, lots of britishe cars i worked on in the 1970's had double depth brass nuts, This needs those and longer studs. Probably 5/16 UNF from visual assessment!!
Yes correct factory one are deeper sorry I forgot that and yes all those ball joints are serviceable take a closer look you can take them apart
Quite common on sixties Euro cars. The idea being the nuts would strip before the studs and less chance of stuck nuts.
Indeed - same on every Mini I worked on with original exhaust hardware - those exhaust nuts were sometimes close to an inch long. The other thing I'd say is that I wouldn't be using the brass nut to pull the gap closed, I'd put some leverage on the pipe until there was no gap, then do up the nut to hold it there.
@@thosdot6497 it honestly looked to me like part of the gasket was blown out and that’s why there was a gap but I could definitely be wrong.
Most British cars of that period used brass nuts for the exhaust.
They were usually twice the thickness to double the strength of a standard nut.
Not just British, Australian too
You're right, my 58 Morris Minor has them, think it's to stop them rusting.
Brass? Copper I would guess.
@@MartinWeinelt_Kiel www.greasemonkeydirect.com/collections/exhaust-manifold-nuts-studs
We're just ignoring the Need for Speed: Most Wanted M3 sitting next to the Rolls?
Wondering if that's a movie car or fan boy
Hahah I was looking for this comment
Lmao I was just about to comment this
I saw that too.
100% ignoring it :)
Thanks for the shout out to our Element. We brought it to FluidMotorUnion after watching OJ and you here on UA-cam!
In my personal opinion the most beautiful car ever.
It would be sooo cool if you would go out and interview current car designers and ask them how they rate this design...
Get a specialist for the wood whom only deals in Roller wood. be worth it in the end.
The usage of Brass nuts is to prevent mechanics from over-tightening. The nuts are easier to replace than a stud and some sealing surfaces get distorted and leak when the fasteners are over-tightened so you design brass or aluminum nuts to fail if over tightened. aircraft are designed the same way on critical items that cannot leak or fail.
No. The reason they were brass was because brass doesn't rust to the stud and are easily removed.
Quite an attractive classic design, and could make a very nice wedding car. Many old Rollers in the UK easily pay for their upkeep from doing such events, along with chauffeuring and events hire. They can certainly be 'nice little earners' for their owners, too.
A for hire Silver Cloud II??? How infradig!!!
Brass nut makes sense for that because in the event of stripping, the brass will yield and replacing a nut is easier than replacing a stud. The brass may also have a lubricating effect on the studs.
You can also find copper nuts on exhaust flange mates, I used copper lock nuts on mine.
Alex, I know that at some point, you need to sell some cars, else you wouldn't have enough money to maintain all of them. But this one is a keeper. Also, I've seen lots of info in the comments that might be helpful to you.
Nice video - regarding the wood, I used to be a French Poisher (20+ years) sand it with 280 grit sandpapert, give it a 2 coats of of button polish with a good small-ish brush ( best to use what is known as a mop made of Sable) then you can use 0000 (very fine) wire wool and some soft furniture wax (not beeswax) and buff with a sift cloth (a dishcloth would be fine) This is easy to do and can be redone in future if needed. Later Rolls were finished in Polyester (plasic - yuck) but I think this would be French Polish of some sort, or and early lacquer like nitroceloulose, hope this helps.
Brass nuts are pretty common on exhausts from the past, especially on British cars. It’s actually pretty smart to make the “failure to proceed” component the nut instead of the stud. They might call steel exhaust bolts used in the rust belt the American version of Lucas.
I love this project !!
Posted 15 minutes ago, 1700 views. People definitely love this car.
I read years ago that smoothness and quiet were most important to Rolls. Henry Royce decided to "sew" components together, using MANY fasteners to do so. Unfortunately this led to most mechanics not wanting to work on them! You have a gem, treat her as such, please!!!
Yea brass nuts for sure and don't sand the wood 👍🏴
Honestly, I'm so glad you bought it. It's a nice change to the channel. Are we expecting a V12 video next week That would be nice too 😂
I’ve never known those lever arm dampers to fail, usually just need topping up with oil
Exactly. The guy giving his opinion doesn't have a clue what he is talking about.
That piece of round foam is a seal. The front timing case is in two halves the round foam/rubber is used to seal the lower and upper halves of the timing case where they come together. One of the driest Clouds I have seen, in very good condition. The mechanical brake rods to the rear is your hand brake. I worked for Rolls for many years and still do some work at home as a hobby, not so much now though becaause I now live in a unit. Any parts I get are from England from a place called Flying Spares. Excellent service and no shortage of parts for most models. Maybe in the states there are a better selection of people who will sell parts. Maybe by now you have already sourced your parts as I have only just seen your video. And yes, they did use brass nuts on the manifold. Hope your problem with the aircon, is not a TX valve, the factory units were proned to fail, however the pressure valves on the AC charging unit should be able to point you in the right direction, typical reading on the gauge, very high head pressure and very low pressure on the low pressure side.
As a joke, my work mates swopped the wheel nuts from left to right on me, at lunch time on a car I had removed the wheels on. Took me a little while to figure out why the wheel nuts wouldn't go back on after they came off so easily. Also I caught them laughing at me trying to get the wheel nuts started. Cheers from Michael Sydney Australia.
That multitude of fasteners around the diff. casing is called 'Metal Stitching' It was devised by W.O. Bentley, primarily for his W.W.1 aero engines. In that era of British car's, brass fasteners on the exhaust manifold was fairly commonplace.
Elon - “The best part is no part”. Rolls engineer - “Hold my gin old boy”
Now my Saturday morning is Legit! Thanks Alex!
Brass nuts are awesome they were a great idea basically just easier to get off as they don’t sieze up and u can just crack them off if they ever do get stuck
What a lovely classic! So glad you're finally posting about it!
it is beautiful to see everything under that car. I love it
PLEASE do a video on dry ice blasting it.
I have never heard of this method so will be most interested to see what it is and how it turns out!
@@derekstocker6661 Theres other videos of this method on the platform, seems to work.
@@TuneStunnaMusic Thanks for that, I'll take a look.
I have never liked classic cars… for some reason I absolutely looooooove this series of videos. You’ve stumbled on something great and I cannot wait to see you completely work over this car!
Thanks for the exclusive interview with our channel-!! I learned a lot from the master! you are right no car gets this much attention from people of all walks of life-from affluent to salt of the earth this car attracts attention!
All i can say this is the best car you ever bought
Brass nuts on the exhaust flange is common on British cars of the era not just RR
Kindly make more fix it all in 1 video!
Totally thought OJ was kidding when he commented on "all the classic Rolls" they get in there, but then he started sharing all that knowledge! Super impressive; what a great shop to have nearby!
I know right lol. He said that and then started rattling off facts and quirks and I was like… ugh 😅
Dude, this car looks like a handful, hope doesn’t break the bank
But, before electronic and plastic nightmares. This looks do-able .
LOVE YOUR VIDEOS!!! GREETINGS FROM PARAGUAY!!!!!!!!!!!
I love that all the youtube car guys know each other and have fun together
I have just had the normal assortment of Chevy, Plymouth, Dodge and Mercedes over the years. I started watching years ago for the Mercedes content and loved what you were doing. Please don't ever go to normal domestic cars. There are TONS of people covering them. I love the Rolls and enjoy the odd way things were done. Been a sub for years. Keep it up :D
4:15 whoooaaa! Heart skipped a beat. Lol
OJ is a genius!!
It would be super satisfying to see the underside ice blasted, have the surface rust treated, and repainted. Keep this classic alive!
This car seems like quite the project. I'm fascinated by the way everything is put together in the underpinnings but it's huge puzzle. A good service manual would be in short order to properly tend to things.
Beautiful car in excellent condition brass nuts anti-seize used on lots of British cars old classics
The Fiat 1100 had brass nuts on the exhaust manifold
It is an utterly beautiful classic RR Cloud 1 with all the strange add ons that only Rolls could dream up. That servo brake system for one. Get it right and you will own a classic, get it wrong and the ghost of Henry Royce will haunt you. What a lucky find. No rust to speak of.Be kind to this wonderful lady. I just wish I could have one.
It's a RR Silver Cloud 2 not SC1.
This is going to be an amazing project. Can't wait to see the interior/exterior done the way you always do them...to perfection!
Best project on YT. Look forward to progress.
Great looking car !! Congratulations hopefully we see more videos restoring this car hopefully not modifying it … Great video
Love the Rolls videos, can't wait to see the AC & steering repairs. Armstrong shocks aka elbow shocks?
Yup "Armstrong" was the most common make as I recall.
Thank you for bringing us this video content Alex. I feel you are the perfect person to restore this Rolls. I cannot wait to see the Interior refurbishment later. You said the vehicle is dirty and with that being said, would you consider dry ice cleaning for the undercarriage and the engine bay?
Hi I stumbled across your chanel and subscribed after watching your your videos on this car, absolutely stunning vehicle. I really enjoy your presenting style and the way you get stuck in.
In England looking forward to the next vid 👍
I can’t be the only one that chuckled at the phrasing on the AC tester
Been waiting for this one.. Woohoo
Dry icing is really really satisfying to watch, hope he gets it done 😄
I so LOVE those Dry Ice Detailing videos!
...I want to Dry Ice Blast every car I have now.
I finally found a guy who has the same interests as I do. I love the beauty of engineering schemes and how people do things differently around the world.
Alex, love your videos keep up the good work.
Thanks Dan!
Once again great content.
Great Saturday Morning Video.. Thanks Alex.. The RR is gonna be a keeper... You give it all that love and it will be a fixture in the new shop...
Looks a very good car and will turn into a fabulous car, you are lucky to have your mechanical man there with this job, care and time on these pays off, absolute classic! Love this.
I would like to see a dry ice video on the RR.
Lovely car! How many cars would still be on the road after that amount of time after only light restoration. Those are lever dampers by the way and can be rebuilt easily. I agree with many of the other comments about the wood though. Tread carefully! Great videos though! Love the fact that you get in there and get your hands dirty with no fear!!! Keep them coming!!
OMG THAT 6 Series is Amazeballs
I wish I could look this car over in person 😩 it looks so intriguing!
The whole time you were showing the underside I was just thinking “oh god please power wash this please power wash it”
Older BMW’s (pre 1992 and possibly later) used brass nuts for exhaust.
I have these on my flying brick BMW bike. But they are copper, I'm sure.
Beautiful car Alex . Thanks for you and AJ taking us back in engineering Time
On this . Really interesting how overbuilt and built in redundancy are in place.
The car has a snobbish CLASS all on its own..lol
I've watched alot of your video's and like the way your mind thinks mechanically, love the direction your channel is going keep up the hard work .
SO, did that the A/C have a sight glass located near the expansion valve? That will tell you when the system is low (foam) and full (no foam), AND was the thermal bulb from the expansion valve connected to the high side and thermal wrapped? That compressor sounded a little on the noisy side.
Sump oiled compressor. He needs to check the oil. Even noisy, they still usually work fine.
@@tomjones5079 Absolutely! Those old 'Ford-style' twin cylinder compressors need the crankcase filled, even before you draw a vacuum on them to keep them from seizing up. From the amount of noise, this compressor is probably already on it's way out.😜 Most likely, the expansion valve is stuck open, which is why he can't get it to blow cold.
Expansion valve probably stuck.
@@danw1955 Agree...mostly. The York compressor was also prone to shaft seal leaks.
I agree with a previous comment and the one below: I'd say that the TXV is stuck. The suction side should not go that low with 2.5 lbs in.
I'm guessing the mechanical rear linkage is for the hand brake.
Yeah you can see a similar system in many British cars from the era
Yes, some older American cars used this system also. Much more reliable than cable operated 'emergency' brakes.😉
I really enjoy your content. Keep up the good job. Like this old Roller story.
This is great,I ‘m looking forward to seeing this series
15:26 "What do you mean it clears and rolls back?" It was that moment Alex's soul left his body when he thought the mad scientist meant the odometer was tampered with.
Lmao
I bought a 1995 Ford Mustang V6🤦 seemed like a good idea at the time....
Loving these types of videos Alex!
I have a ‘59 Bentley S1 and a few tips and tricks:
1) for the hub caps, put a long screw driver through the hole for the valve stem and get it off that way. Won’t dent the outer rim of the hub cap
2) The brass lug nuts should be 45-55 lbs. Right threads on the right side, left threads on the left side
3) my exhaust nuts were brass but you can buy them still through Flying Spares and Intro car (and any parts honestly)
4) For the A/C, that tank next to the steering ram is the drier for the A/C. My car has a similar York compressor and frankly I’m afraid to touch it.
5) The GM Hydramatic tranny can be a bear. I had to rebuild mine and I would recommend doing the fluid to be safe
6) the leather straps over the leaf springs are called “gaiters”
Everything you say is correct apart from putting a screw driver through the hole for the valve stem. Firstly, how on earth can you do that with the valve stem in place? Impossible, and secondly, the tool kit has a hub cap remover tool. Surely your car still has that?
@@EnglishLawyerYes, I have the Tommy bar in the tool kit but you do risk bending the outside lip. Have you seen videos from Ronny Shaver? If you search Rollsroycenut i think you will enjoy his Cloud videos.
@@EnglishLawyer Everyone has their own approach but this works well. I have marks on my rim where previous mechanics got too aggressive with the tommy bar. 7:50 time mark.
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