One of my co workers used to do band promotion and was around KL a lot. He said PacSun was literally never in a bad mood. He was always such a sweet guy. What a great band KL is!
This is the mix delivered straight from their engineer at front of house. This mix is for the room that night, not a studio environment. We are lucky to have a busy crew take time to get us any kind of audio feed on a busy sold out show day. This gives a unique perspective into how the kit is mixed for tour, and seems relevant to the convo. Live mix is a special beast.
@@drumrundown While I totally understand this, I feel like it would be better to have a high quality stereo recorder placed close to the kit almost like a smash mic - that way you could have more consistency in the audio over multiple videos. I find often times a FOH mix isn't ideal for at home listening purposes, especially when they're catered to the band/genre This however, may interfere with stage setup or require additional setup time which may not be ideal during soundcheck/load-ins. I'm happy we're getting these rundowns at all - just my 2c
@@drumrundown definitely respect this. Not discounting the work done by the tour crew. I know Matt’s a phenomenal FOH, it’s just the live mix is so different in a stream/recording mix the actual sound of the drums is completely diminished imo. But fr props to the KL crew. Those guys are dialed in.
For the wooden beater argument: It's also on a drum that's basically on the floor (with pedals) and might have a patch on it. Play what gets the sound you want.
totally. tonequesting is always the best part. a lot of folks have said those low boy beaters are giving them a certain quality they love. I still need to try them as well. I am in my skate wheel era at the moment, lol!
@@drumrundown Talking about skateboard wheel beaters, you should do Dave Witte of Municipal Waste. He used them before switching to Trick beaters. I'm not sure what he's using since switching to SJC.
Great video- great interview! I know some people have been saying this but running a Zoom recorder or even a shotgun mic mounted on the camera would be a great solution to getting the drum sound for some live playing:)
I may catch some heat for not knowing this, but is what it is I guess. So which songs are the raggae & dance beats on? I’m brand new to KL btw. Like many, I was initially not diggin the vocals. Into it now tho
We are just all men trying to find our forever-head! hahahahah. For real he is so sick. I have a similar pearl-white wrap on my custom SJC snare and I think it's beautiful. Nothing but love for them over there.
Yay! I'm probably way wrong, but I thought on your personal Instagram I saw a story with you talking to Bill Stevenson. Is there going to be a drum rundown with Bill?
Whoa, Whoa, Whoa! Seriously Kevin's playing is F**king brutal, but does anyone else see that he has a haunting similarity to both KEVIN SMITH (aka Silent Bob) & Vinnie Paul????
Chris mixed our Polyphia episode, and def is our go to guy when we get stems! This stereo mix was fed directly from front of house into camera. We gotta get in and out quick!
Nice rundown but wouldn’t mind hearing how the different parts sound on their own. Been really impressed with his drumming and just the variety of beats and how well they fit in the songs. Is he saying the second bass drum is just for show and not used? Sucks someone stole his snare. Some people just don’t know how scummy that is to do to a musician.
To anyone who's never tried wooden beaters. Give the lowboys a shot, I absolutely love mine and go with the leather daddy and it can be flipped around for a wood striking surface. Sounds so killer.
This was good, but I wish you went into a little more depth about the specifics of his snare, and the recording process on the new album. I know he talked about the snare being open, and a little bit about how he got that sound, and you spoke about style of snare it was, and his new side snare, but I'm not fully aware what he meant by some of it. I was just curious about why the snare is so prominent on this new record. Regardless, Kevin has an awesome kit, and he seems like a chill dude.
@@drumrundown I appreciate the reply, and I understand that vibe, but what I meant was why does his snare have that St. Anger sound on the recording. Lars notoriously didn't have the snares engaged on the drum for that album, so is Kevin doing something similar? How tight or loose does he keep his snares, or does it being bell brass play into the sound? Does the the tuning of his snare play into it, cause the snare on Suicide Silence's No Time To Bleed is hand tightened, which plays into the sound of that particular snare? Those are the specifics I had hoped he'd explain, cause his snare doesn't sound like that on any of their other outputs, and I know they were using a new producer on this album, so was it a particular way Drew mic'd Kevin's snare? Did he mix it a specific way to make that ping extra prominent? Which snare has that sound to it, cause he just added that side snare, so is that side snare specifically used for that particular sound, and his other snare has a more standard crack to it? I'm just mega curious about all those little details. Not trying to be a pain in the ass, though, my bad. This was still a cool rundown.
Don’t tell me Drum Rundown missed yet another opportunity to cover Sean from LOATHE’s kit? First the Periphery tour, now Knocked Loose… We need someone on R&D to pay attention to what’s going on in metal. Big oops.
The drum mix always sounds so BAD on these drum rundowns. Straight from the console or monitor engineer, I bet. A stereo mix from a live console never ever sounds good recorded. Please fix it.
@@drumrundown multitrack recording is really easy these days and it’s really easy to get a good quick mix. Or you could bring a Yamaha EAD10 to record these sessions. For sure a EAD10 will sound way better than this. Don’t get me wrong, I love these drum rundowns, but as you’ve maybe already noticed, there’s always comments about the drum sound being really bad and I am NOT the first one or the only one who thinks that.
@@drumrundown instead of snarky responses you could just put the drum sizes lmao. Does a 17 year old run this account? Pretty simple fucking question if you ask me. You do a drum rundown but I gotta go google the shell sizes? Next time do your job and just ask the artist
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Creators of the heaviest shit are always the chillest dudes.
Pacsun seems like a gem of a human being
One of my co workers used to do band promotion and was around KL a lot. He said PacSun was literally never in a bad mood. He was always such a sweet guy. What a great band KL is!
I've loved this band for some years, never knew this guy was so charismatic and awesome. Good for him!
Kevin seems like a great dude and just makes me love them even more. Great interview!
seriously, the whole camp were the sweetest dudes. you love to see it.
The audio from the drums is cursed. Y’all need to figure that out
This is the mix delivered straight from their engineer at front of house. This mix is for the room that night, not a studio environment. We are lucky to have a busy crew take time to get us any kind of audio feed on a busy sold out show day. This gives a unique perspective into how the kit is mixed for tour, and seems relevant to the convo. Live mix is a special beast.
@@drumrundown While I totally understand this, I feel like it would be better to have a high quality stereo recorder placed close to the kit almost like a smash mic - that way you could have more consistency in the audio over multiple videos. I find often times a FOH mix isn't ideal for at home listening purposes, especially when they're catered to the band/genre
This however, may interfere with stage setup or require additional setup time which may not be ideal during soundcheck/load-ins.
I'm happy we're getting these rundowns at all - just my 2c
it's def extra work for everyone to get these feeds. not sure a zoom of the room while stagehands are still working would be better...
@@drumrundown definitely respect this. Not discounting the work done by the tour crew. I know Matt’s a phenomenal FOH, it’s just the live mix is so different in a stream/recording mix the actual sound of the drums is completely diminished imo. But fr props to the KL crew. Those guys are dialed in.
@@drumrundown totally fair! Audio > no audio, and I'm glad we got this video at all!!
The man. the myth. The drummer for knocked loose🔥
Love the little color switch when he says "HD Dry"
Their music is NASTY (in a good way), which is a crazy contrast to their chill nice demeanours lmao gotta love it
ARF ARF
"can I cuss on you?" these KL guys are too sweet I love it
Never heard this dude talk before. This mfs the coolest dude in the band
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they're sabians
@@kristophershinn4420 so vault series? AAX? got the p/n on his left crash?
What a chill guy, always wanted to hear his 2c on the process.
" Every now & then I'll use 2 bottoms just to make it darker & heavier 😄 " the smile after revealing how he opens a portal
What a cool dude
I got to see these guys once, the pit was SICK💪🤘
Seems like such a nice guy 👏
Been waiting for this one🔥🔥
definitely had to get this one up asap!
The mix 😳
mixed for the venue, not the video.
Shouldnt have made the video@@drumrundown
I LOOOVE the double kick drums but only actually playing one of them haha! Looks sick, but IMO doubles sound better on one kick drum.
Ayyye, good drummer; I've recently been paying attention to his band. Love the sound of that snare.
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i wish someone would interview there sound and light guy next lol
Sick drummer ❤❤❤❤
For the wooden beater argument: It's also on a drum that's basically on the floor (with pedals) and might have a patch on it.
Play what gets the sound you want.
totally. tonequesting is always the best part. a lot of folks have said those low boy beaters are giving them a certain quality they love. I still need to try them as well. I am in my skate wheel era at the moment, lol!
@@drumrundown Talking about skateboard wheel beaters, you should do Dave Witte of Municipal Waste. He used them before switching to Trick beaters. I'm not sure what he's using since switching to SJC.
i loveeee knocked loose
ARF ARF!!!
Petition for Matt Halpern on the drum rundown 👀
petition acknowledged.
When he was playing, all I heard from the bass drums was the clicking of the beaters.
the live mix is certainly taking into account the room, and going into subs and PA.
Great video- great interview! I know some people have been saying this but running a Zoom recorder or even a shotgun mic mounted on the camera would be a great solution to getting the drum sound for some live playing:)
we do both. well just upload that from now on. thought people might like an actual foh mix.
@@drumrundown You guys seriously do a great job though no shade!
I may catch some heat for not knowing this, but is what it is I guess. So which songs are the raggae & dance beats on? I’m brand new to KL btw. Like many, I was initially not diggin the vocals. Into it now tho
That snare tho
like, c'mon. too good.
We are just all men trying to find our forever-head! hahahahah. For real he is so sick. I have a similar pearl-white wrap on my custom SJC snare and I think it's beautiful. Nothing but love for them over there.
If the hardcore band's drummer looks like this, you're about to d1e on that mosh pit...
Alex Camarena of Silent Planet next!
Yay! I'm probably way wrong, but I thought on your personal Instagram I saw a story with you talking to Bill Stevenson. Is there going to be a drum rundown with Bill?
oh yeah, it's coming!
Whoa, Whoa, Whoa! Seriously Kevin's playing is F**king brutal, but does anyone else see that he has a haunting similarity to both KEVIN SMITH (aka Silent Bob) & Vinnie Paul????
Hire @ChrisGhazel to fix up your drum mixes, he'll get you guys right 🤘
Chris mixed our Polyphia episode, and def is our go to guy when we get stems! This stereo mix was fed directly from front of house into camera. We gotta get in and out quick!
Nice rundown but wouldn’t mind hearing how the different parts sound on their own. Been really impressed with his drumming and just the variety of beats and how well they fit in the songs. Is he saying the second bass drum is just for show and not used? Sucks someone stole his snare. Some people just don’t know how scummy that is to do to a musician.
What are the drum sizes? The kicks look deeper than most. Are we going back to 22x20s instead of the 22x18s on every kit nowadays?
22" 12" 16" 18"
Honestly I've seen a lot of kick depths going down, even below 18!
What are the drum sizes?
Next album add a cowbell!
👏👏👏
@@drumrundown Listen to All Shall Perish "wage slaves" to get an idea of what im talking about. Sounds awesome in metal.
To anyone who's never tried wooden beaters. Give the lowboys a shot, I absolutely love mine and go with the leather daddy and it can be flipped around for a wood striking surface. Sounds so killer.
Arf Arf
YEAHHHH!!!
This was good, but I wish you went into a little more depth about the specifics of his snare, and the recording process on the new album. I know he talked about the snare being open, and a little bit about how he got that sound, and you spoke about style of snare it was, and his new side snare, but I'm not fully aware what he meant by some of it. I was just curious about why the snare is so prominent on this new record. Regardless, Kevin has an awesome kit, and he seems like a chill dude.
different snare for different vibes for different parts of different songs!
@@drumrundown I appreciate the reply, and I understand that vibe, but what I meant was why does his snare have that St. Anger sound on the recording. Lars notoriously didn't have the snares engaged on the drum for that album, so is Kevin doing something similar? How tight or loose does he keep his snares, or does it being bell brass play into the sound? Does the the tuning of his snare play into it, cause the snare on Suicide Silence's No Time To Bleed is hand tightened, which plays into the sound of that particular snare? Those are the specifics I had hoped he'd explain, cause his snare doesn't sound like that on any of their other outputs, and I know they were using a new producer on this album, so was it a particular way Drew mic'd Kevin's snare? Did he mix it a specific way to make that ping extra prominent? Which snare has that sound to it, cause he just added that side snare, so is that side snare specifically used for that particular sound, and his other snare has a more standard crack to it? I'm just mega curious about all those little details.
Not trying to be a pain in the ass, though, my bad. This was still a cool rundown.
As someone who plays two kicks, it's not that dramatic so it's easy to get used to.
Everyone is different
@@spinxz_314 I agree, I'm just saying it for those who are almost at the point of trying but have a cognitive bias.
@@The_Other_Ghost I gotcha dawg! Can't wait for the new record!
Drum size's????
Don’t tell me Drum Rundown missed yet another opportunity to cover Sean from LOATHE’s kit? First the Periphery tour, now Knocked Loose… We need someone on R&D to pay attention to what’s going on in metal. Big oops.
we literally get like 20 minutes per show. We got Pac this time...
Good thing he brought his toothpick.....
i'm sure the drums sounded way better in the venue but gadd damn that raw signal from the mics sounds awful
yep, off the board for the venue sounds way different than a recording studio!
@@drumrundown should have put a mic out in the audience for the drums
I’ve heard 50 year old bootleg recordings of Led Zeppelin shows and the drums sound better then this. 🤮
mix was for the venue, not the video.
@@drumrundown 😂😂
@@Mike_Webb78 Your hearing tends to decline in old age
Kicks sound whack
mixed for the venue, not the video.
The drum mix always sounds so BAD on these drum rundowns. Straight from the console or monitor engineer, I bet. A stereo mix from a live console never ever sounds good recorded. Please fix it.
how else do we get sound at soundcheck at the venue in 20 minutes or less?
@@drumrundown multitrack recording is really easy these days and it’s really easy to get a good quick mix. Or you could bring a Yamaha EAD10 to record these sessions. For sure a EAD10 will sound way better than this. Don’t get me wrong, I love these drum rundowns, but as you’ve maybe already noticed, there’s always comments about the drum sound being really bad and I am NOT the first one or the only one who thinks that.
the mix was for the venue, not the video.
@@drumrundown regardless, you could do better. If you can’t, it’s just laziness in my opinion.
Wholeheartedly agree. I’d rather listen to iPhone audio.
i think he's a great drummer but I feel like he's always playing the same thing and it gets kinda boring if I'm being honest
It’s hardcore music… he plays a lot more interesting choruses than most hardcore drummers
and he's adding in disco beats and raggaeton to hardcore. far from boring, imo.
LOSE the TOOTHPICK…🤬🤬🤬
the toothpick stays!
How you gonna do a drum rundown and not say what size shells?💀
how dare we talk about things not already on the internet!?!
@@drumrundown instead of snarky responses you could just put the drum sizes lmao. Does a 17 year old run this account? Pretty simple fucking question if you ask me. You do a drum rundown but I gotta go google the shell sizes? Next time do your job and just ask the artist
@@drumrundown channel is called drum rundown lmao
22" 12" 16" 18"
was just having laugh!
Calling SJC creme of the crop is hilariously stretching.
cool.