212cc Predator powered mini bike motorcycle engine swap installing a stage 2 kit
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- Опубліковано 21 лип 2024
- Installing a stage 2 kit in a 212cc Predator powered motorcycle. I built this a few years back, it was a really simple project and is quite fun on the trails!
Kit includes: ARC billet flywheel, billet connecting rod, big cam, 18lb valve springs, thin head gasket. I also built a custom intake and mounted a Honda XR 200 carb.
Welders used: Titatium 200, Vulcan Protig 205.
Check out mike_festiva on Instagram for mid week updates and projects.
Special thanks to Elkhork music for blues/bluegrass music.
Here's some Amazon associate paid links if your looking for some of these parts.
CVT torque converter amzn.to/2IySo3V
Go Kart Drive Belt 30 Series amzn.to/33afTwd
1-1/4" Mild Steel U-Bend Exhaust Pipe, It's the curved tube I used for the intake runner
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30mm Carburetor XR 200 Style amzn.to/2CWySiZ
CVT torque converter amzn.to/2Wzmz4I
Both of these Torque converters fit 3/4" engine output shafts (predator 212cc engines have 3/4" shafts) and both kits come with the 40 pitch sprocket (this was the same size sprocket i modified to fit my chain pitch. I hope this helps you guys out.
Here's a big main jet and air filter kit for a stock carb amzn.to/2FlU67Q
5mm Pull cord 10 meters amzn.to/333LAaj
Here's the Tachometer amzn.to/2WWqmZZ - Навчання та стиль
That's sad about not getting sponsored or even discounted on the parts. You definitely have a great channel your videos are fine quality and the detail you cover on your builds is absolutely great. Keep up the good work.
Absolutely I stand behind this message
Yeah from the viewers, no from the business, you gotta have more than a million subscribers to get free stuff and have it be enough marketing to benifit the company.
@@andrewfetterolf7042 I see all kinds of other videos of other uploaded with less then a mill subscribers shouting out the shit they get to promote
That particular company only seems to sponsor people that only use their parts. But hey, you have more engineering than most all of the other guys! Thanks for sharing!
Thanks for checking out my new video 👍
I guess I’m stuck buying my parts like the rest of us 😂
Your content is very good quality. Same with your builds. It's a dream to watch.
Thanks for the idea. I think I have all I need for just such a project.
And I simply can't get over your property, its beautiful where you are.
This is a great channel 🔧🔩... Lots of talent...
Thanks Ricardo! I really appreciate it 🙂
Me, myself, and I
In 40 yrs I've heard that probably more than anything else, none have ever had me laughing like this. Great video man
Hi Nice video. On your argument referring to the long runners on the SHO you didn't pause to think the the SHO engine has injectors at the head not where the long runners start. The long runners were there to increase air speed. I admit that I thought the runner may be a bit long but the proof is in how it both starts and how it runs. It may be a little harder to start on really cold days. If it revs up with no bogging down then it doesn't matter the length is fine. The other benefit is it keeps the carb out of harm's way. It's both protected from sticks and rocks plus it won't drown in semi deep water. Super nice job. Thanks!
That thing is even better now.im glad you did the long runner intake so I could see a proof of concept. I'm really excited to see the full riding video. Also dont feel bad I have to pay out of pocket for all my parts too lol.
Thanks for checking out my new video!
Haha yes we all have to pay to play 😂
Take care David 👍
Probably my favorite video to date!!! Loved the music while tearing down and rebuilding the engine! Especially since I could still hear the mechanical sounds of everything going back together!!! Keep up the great work!
Thanks Jeff! I really appreciate it 🙂
Can’t believe they didn’t sponsor you.
Well at the time I ordered the parts my channel was about 25,000 subs and maybe that wasn’t enough? I would have been happy with a 20% off.
I’m still going to make these videos sponsored or not. Thanks for checking out my new video Ryan!
I'd like to do one of these but I won't be buying parts of GPS that's for sure. Your content is brilliant and they should have tripped over themselves to give you anything you need. Your credibility and build quality is miles ahead of 95% at least of other channels I have seen that get stuff every week off them. If there is a competitor to these people, they could make big inroads by helping you out. Thanks again for another informative, well presented and very enjoyable Vid.
Thanks for checking out my new video I really appreciate it! Well at the time last year when I ordered the parts my channel was only at 25,000 subs so maybe they missed the potential of my channel 🤷🏻♂️
Thanks for commenting and I don’t mind buying my parts and paying full price, the company just won’t be getting any shoutouts or advertising from me When I’m paying 100% for them 😂
Take care
This bike is what originally lured me to your channel, glad I stuck around to see your other projects.
Right on! I appreciate you sticking around 🙂
They don't know the power of this channel. We are your sponsors!!!
That won't work!
That won't work!
How many times do we, as tinkerers hear some professing engineer say........That won't work?
The proof is in the FACT that it WORKS!...................lol GREAT SHOW!!!
Why deny them the fun of getting really mad when it works?:))
@@robdixson196 heh, heh, heh........Yep!
I have to say, the torque converter tuning is absolutely spot on for this motor spec. I don't think you could have done much better.
Build it the way you want!!! Love the videos and the music.
Right on I really appreciate it!
That long intake is gonna give you alot of low end torque qich is good because thats not a high revving engine
It’s the opposite buddy shorter more bottom end and longer more top end.
@@EnginesbyAustin yours is right for exhaust long tube headers are for high rpms.. Intake is the opposite
@@EnginesbyAustin I believe you've got the two mixed up, long intake runners on 4strokes aid in low end tourque.
@@24BLUEELMO I have been running 125 flat head 1 cylinder 4 strokes for years at 10,000rpm my guy so I know I’m right and they are over 50years old
@@EnginesbyAustin well as cool as that is bro, it is well known that long runners generally aid in tourque, short runners are generally in top end based applications.. not saying that tables can't be turned with each setup, but it seems most agree, and plenty of info online supporting the fact that length aids in tourque. Length ads resistance to flow compared to same diameter intake but one that is shorter will flow more, top end in short requires more air/fuel, so having said that it makes much more sense that longer would better suit low to mid-range applications, and shorter for top-end.
Nice wielding, and I actually loved the intake tube 👍
Thanks 😊
@MikeFestiva you need to get a juggernaut drive clutch for it,the difference is unbelievable
I'm pretty sure the same people that did nothing for you is exactly who I refuse to buy from anymore 💪
Haha 😂 Right on Aaron! Thanks for checking out my video and commenting 👍
This and the quad truck are definitely my favorite builds from you🤙
Thanks Brody! The coolest part about the two builds you mentioned are the fact both are fairly easy for anyone to build!
@@Mikefestiva yep. Your videos have helped me with welding and fabrication, I'm planning on building something like the quadtruck just because the one you made is so cool.
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Really? I love the dump truck that thing is sweet. I love the bike and quad as well but the craftsmanship that went I to the dump truck is amazing.
Love this idea. If and when you ever have engine troubles, you aren't stuck with a certain year, make, model or manufacturer of replacement parts. No rare, extinct or hard to find parts to search for due to them being discontinued. Just walk to the hardware store or order online
I just love your videos. You are succinct, to the point, and spot on, whether it’s a review of a welder ,a build like this stage 2 kit, or the flux core wire comparisons. Each and every time you are fair , honest , and genuine. I am a big fan , keep doing these projects, because they inspire creativity and talent. Both of which you have in abundance!! You are awesome Mike !!
Thanks a lot Gary!!!
Mike, you are a jack of all trades and a master of them as well! I have owned many bikes and even raced back in the day. This looks like a great woods / trail bike build and a ton of fun for the money. Awfully tempting to build one myself. Keep up the good work. Blessings!
Thanks Earl I really appreciate it!
It’s definitely a fun little machine, it’s biggest limitation now is the small frame, I’m considering seeing how it does in a full size frame next 👍
1st time on your channel, subscribed and liked because I really like how clean and pro you work even on dirty cheap projects like this. Excellent camera work. Keep it up! Cheers from France.
Thanks John! I really appreciate you subscribing and commenting 👍
Cheers from the Pacific Northwest of Washington.
Awesome video....i just zoned out with the chill music....something relaxing about wrenching on an engine anyway
I had to pause it 4 seconds in to say I have been waiting for this video for ever! Hell yes
Haha 😂 Sorry it took me some long to get around to making this video. Thanks for waiting 😂
So professional, every time I see one of your new videos I am blown away! I always knew you were the ultimate fabricator/engineer! Love ya brother!!
You tell the guy with 15 small engine toys that I'll never need a 10' stick of copper tube for bushings? 🤣
We have the same sponsors! This bike is awesome man.
Haha 😂 Right on! Thanks for checking out my video 👍
Just what I needed to start my weekend and shake off the sh!t show... This style of how to is spot on, just enough visual to get the idea across without minutes of useless footage and no lengthy commentary on how to start a bolt in a threaded hole... Then the money shot at the end, ripping around on the finished product!! Now I'm re-calibrated and motivated for a long shop weekend. Thanks Mike!
Right on! Thanks for always checking out my videos 👍 I try to balance out info and entertainment, I’m glad you enjoyed it!
Can’t believe someone wouldn’t give you parts and want to be your sponsor?! Your builds are awesome! Keep it up man!
he should have way more subs
you get it on that thing, wot right from when you pull the cord until you hit the kill switch
Andrew Browner no need to warm up amirite
@@shancyroesner9212 im more impressed with his riding, no fear!
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Have loved this build Mike. A cool, budget friendly resurrection of an otherwise trashed bike. Can't wait to see the ride video.
Thanks Robert! Yes this engine swap can bring a lot of old broken down bikes back on the road again 👍
There is something called the "super 30 series driver- The juggernaut" as a replacement front pulley. The other guys are all raving about it, it might help solve your issues. I think it sucks you were not offered some kind of a discount, if I am not mistaken this project had a shit-ton of views.
That would be "go power sports" that's a shame you deserve full sponsorship!!
Haha 😂 well at the time last year when I ordered the parts my channel was 25,000 so maybe they didn’t see the potential 🤷🏻♂️
Well hopefully they will now! I'm sure a bunch of us let them know about it 😂
Man I'm really surprised how much torque that thing has really getting you around them trails pretty good I've got an old Honda 125 roller sitting in my basement that I've been wanting to do something with only it's going to cost me about little more in the grand to rebuild the motor I kind of like this idea
Great build, always nice to see affordable, fun stuff. The long inlet tract is always good for torque and that really suits the nature of the low revving engine.
The supplier who will go unnamed just throws free parts at other channels who keep doing the same thing over and over. Channnels who dont go in to near as much build detail and who have never made anything nearly as cool as the articulated 4x4. My goal is to get a plasma table like yours and maybe make some videos myself. It would make my life way simpler in regards to my little homemade projects. The Sawzall, drill, file method works but can be painfully slow. Keep up with the excellent videos!
The long inlet manifold will be great for torque.
Agree, but is that a good match for that cam? Im guessing since he put in a forged rod that the cam rev’s higher, probably could use a shorter intake for the high rev’s.
Either way, great vid, always fun to experiment
Now I want to find an old bike on facebook 😄
Explain please i want to know how that works 🤔?
Thanks guys for checking out my new video!
The cam I bought was more for torque and I think only capable to about 6000 RPMs so the longer intake is a good match for it. The bike has a surprising amount of torque 👍
Mike festiva heck yeah!!! 🙌🏼😄
Them some clean welds tho🤩
I know from experience that this engine is a beast, especially with the toque converter. Looks super fun.
Very nice, been waiting for this one, thanks Mike
Thanks for checking out my new video Gary!
Let me rebuild this whole motor real quick haha great video
Thanks for checking out my video 🙂👍
Excellent video man next put a tillotson 225 or 228 on your bike that would be cool!
my first time seeing your dirtbike build, you are an excellent mechanic.
Great job, Mike! I always enjoy your videos! In fact, I usually hit the like button before I even play them.
Thanks Jim 🙂👍
This is cool this I didn’t think that engine with have that much power to push the bike especially that fast
It's more than double what those bikes came stock with. People underestimate these motors for some reason.
I hear you on the sponsorship. Friends and I have put on minibike events, flown that same vendors banner, given away a banner for that vender, promote them on our insta, fb and yt and still when I call they just laugh. Great build though. Ive been looking for a frame to do the same thing with.
Very nice upgrades to that predator motor great video as well @Mike Festiva 👍 😀 👌
At first I thought the motor in a XR was silly but you did a great job and I'm impressed. Great job
AS A BUILDER AND FABBER BROOOOOOOOO YOU KNOW WHAT YOU DID LIKE MY PROBLEM HAS ALWAYS BEEN HOW TO GET THE PONEYS TOT HE BACK TIRE AND GET A WIDER GEARING CAUSE SLL I COULD EVER GET MINE 2 WAS ABOUT 4 MILES AND HOUR MAYBE 10 IDK BUT VERY SLOW AND THEN I SEE THIS BEAST OMG!!!!!!!!!!!!!! SICK!!!!!!!!
Pretty badass on a budget
I guess im randomly asking but does anybody know a tool to get back into an instagram account..?
I was dumb forgot my login password. I love any help you can give me.
@Zane Elisha instablaster :)
@Matteo Brayden Thanks so much for your reply. I got to the site through google and im in the hacking process now.
Looks like it's gonna take a while so I will reply here later when my account password hopefully is recovered.
@Matteo Brayden It did the trick and I finally got access to my account again. I am so happy!
Thank you so much, you really help me out :D
@Zane Elisha happy to help xD
Damn. That thing moves. Good for the tight trails out back and not having to deal with gears
I am 95% finished with a Free 1974 Yamaha RS100 "Rust Bucket" build, removed all the water from the tubes, did some diy weld, painted it to look like an Army motorcycle. copied the frame style you made with slight difference, put a 212cc predator with torque converter, now installing universal headlights, taillights, turn signals, and finish the project. Thanks Mike for all the clear clarifications on the builds.
I'm doing an Italian harley sx 350 with the predator. Are you planning on making yours street legal. I am..
Wow! Great welding
Thanks Tom 🙂 I appreciate it 👍
Hey those guys who u bought the engine off of must be kicking themselves now. A 300 dollar motor in exchange for advertisement to over a quarter million people is a steal
Really nice upgrade, enjoying the series. That thing rips pretty good, lol. Nice one!
I have all the same stuff and updated to stainless valves and ported the head. Its been put together and been sitting since winter. I've never even started yet. I updated my mower to a cub cadet that I've fixing up but running the bike is definitely on my to do list. With the cam heavier springs billet flywheel and rod iam looking forward to winging the crap out it for sure.
13:09 😂
Its just me myself and I....😂😂😂
Nice vid! You just earned a new subscriber!
Right on! Thanks Lance 👍
No problem! I love this kind of stuff!
Bro I was like I can do everything you can in the engine till you started making custom pipes. That’s some next level tinkering. Badass
Really enjoyed your first series of videos when you built that bike, so it's great to see more being done to it!! Very cool!
Thanks Trevor 👍 it’s been a fun little bike!
Cool bike have fun with it no gear shifting cool and cool dump truck atv
Thanks 😊
After seeing your 1st video on this build I finally tracked down a 1987 yz125 as a roller. In the description your using an xr200 carb. Would you happen to know the bore size and jet? That 212 sounds strong! Any help would be greatly appreciated, keep up the great content Mike👍
Your not only a hella builder, your a man of few words and say what you mean.. meaning your the man I'd take to trail with. Humble and smart and know what it takes, listens to advice but relies on ones self as good guidance. Oh and this is good videoing too!!
Right on Morgan! I really appreciate it 🙂
This is a good channel for anybody reading comments before the vid 👍🏼 I’m subscribing!
this is awesome wish i had the skills and confidence to do this..
I'm gonna try soon
Saving up
Hmm i would have thought the lawn mower engine would be weaker this actually makes me want to build one now
Badass, I ordered a stage 2 kit like yours and narrowing a 2 seat go kart and putting some wide slicks for the street
The predator motor has so much potential. The crazy stage 4 kits they have are insane..there are some great videos out there off those motors..but thanks for the video,nice build
Damn i think i know who you were trying to get sponsered by and you think they would have got on board with ya.
At the time I ordered the parts last year my channel was about 25,000 and maybe they didn’t think it was worth it 🤷🏻♂️
Thanks for checking out my new video!
I love this idea. I have a 1998 xr100 that needs a new top end..........
Nicely done video and your running out well on that dirt bike. Great job!
13:01 you could already see it was mutch faster and more powerfull love this project keep it up.
Cant wait for the next ride out video
Bet it was go power sports and yeah great job man
Thanks for checking out my video 👍
Man I need an old dirtbike frame 😩
That thing rips! Because of you I did the 212cc motor swap on a 1967 Yamaha 180cc Bonanza twin. It’s an awesome scrambler now.
Nice 👍 that’s rad you built one!
4gett what they say bro thatz nicce im puttn a 212 on my son 500 electric dirt bike kuuuull keep itt upp bro
Shame, guess that parts supplier doesn't need those 98k SETS OF EYEBALLS ON PRODUCT. Great job, that little bike really scoots!
Great build dude . Glad to here the kids having fun .
Nice Job 👍. A few years back I converted a 1973 Honda XL100 for my ten year old son. I found an XL185 engine which I then converted with an XR200 barrel and carb. Really easy conversion and performance is markedly better. Still run around on it, My son’s now thirty and I have no doubt that when his son is born and old enough he’ll be riding it. (Time goes so fast)
Awesome and yeah time flies with kiddos 👍
That's a hemi engine nice
What is the top speed on the bike?
Nice work! Those are some really pretty welds, too! That engine sounds great, obviously the intake pipe is working just fine.
Nice work both on the conversion and the actual video. Cool project!
I remember when you very first built it
Right on!
How fast does this eat through belts? I have a few older rollers and would like to build a few to buzz around with my sons.
also interested in knowing how long the belts last
Still got the original pipe 😎 still looking awesome though what a great build amazing job !🙌
What a cool swap. Great job.
I’m wanting to do the exact same build with my dirt bike frame I have with a 212 predator. Kinda lost on how to mount the engine
Check out some of my other videos on this bike, I show how I make the engine mounts in the first video.
i did this on an xr 200 old bmx bike fork with plate welded on top made an awsome engine bracket looks clean too
Put the ghost in it! Or continue to modify the current one. Orrrr even better, sell it to me and let me continue this awesome build!!
Reason why I want it is it I can’t weld but have always wanted a predator dirt bike once I saw your vids. I got the stuff for it I just can’t weld so I figured I’d ask if you’d sell it. Got a motor and all for it. I would just need to buy the frame from you haha
A modified predator like this is stronger than the ghost. The ghost is just a 212 with a stage 2 kit pre installed
I really liked the instructive nature of your filming. Well done!. That parts sponsor really missed out. I have watched many videos on the subject. This was a good video. Keep that content coming!
Thanks Thomas! I really appreciate it 🙂
Excellent video and glad you did NOT mention the source of your parts since YOU paid for them :).
You and grind hard plumbing co need to collab
Aha! Transport Col. Senders with the articulated dump truck.
@@eidolusgad3818 that would be amazing
I have mentioned to Edwin that a Tug of war with my articulating dump truck and there 4x4 go kart would be a fun one! Maybe I can work it out this fall??? Thanks guys for checking out my new video 🙂
@@Mikefestiva looking forward to that video love both you guys channels
Dame 290k views and they could've sponsored something t9 get a nice shout out. Sucks to be them
Omg I started a project like this with a 1982 Honda xl250r frame from a junk yard. I ended up having to special order a rear 420 pitch sprocket for it. I stopped working on it for now bc I needed a longer throttle cable for the stage 2 carb I put on it. I had never thought about routing it on top of the motor like that. Cool bike btw can’t wait to see some more awesome vids🤙
I want to do the same carb set-up with the bike I'm building. Going to try to mig-weld it (don't have a tig yet). I bought a billet adapter for the Mikuni knock-off but it puts the carb right where my leg needs to be for the foot-peg. Mine is getting close...can't wait to get ripping-down the trail! Thanks for the inspiration!
Get a Juggernaut front pulley for your TAV.
What he said