Iain McGilchrist has become a poet and philosopher of Neuroscience in modern times. He brings in so many areas of Science in his work and his mapping of left versus right Brain/Mind is prescient.
Absolutely excellent! A man who can express himself simply and clearly, weaving his knowledge and ideas into a fabric of cosmic brilliance and wonder. Not only that, but also offering a (for me) usable, organic view of consciousness.
He moves like a conductor, a maestro as he eloquently speaks. I see it all as a dance and I hear music and laughing and singing. All part of the dance. Thank you Grana Rose
This man's learning is astoundingly wide and generously deep. Only a real music lover would cite Bach's St. John Passion rather than the better-known St. Matthew Passion.
Thank you for a great summary, Prof. McGilchrist. Somebody in the comments mentioned Kastrup. I spent 30 minutes researching him, including a brief listen to one of his presentations, as I had never heard of him before. Therefore I can only speak at the level of impressions. Kastrup speaks to my left hemisphere, and not that convincingly in terms of describing materialism, whereas McGilchrist speaks to my soul and everything he says kindles and resonates with my soul's wisdom.
it seems like the left and right Brain hemispheres are continually checking on each other, simultaneous cooperation and competition then occurring. This is beautiful Evolutionary Neuroscience and Iain is delineating and paring back the depths of this.
Not only Dr McGilchrist is highly cultured, which makes it so easy and pleasurable to listen to him,but , though he doesn’t insist and push on the listener his thoughts, he is wholly right. A human is only a part of the nature, and in modern time, tearing himself from it,a human makes himself incomplete, sick physically and mentally .
McGilchrist is a contributor to Kastrup's Analytic Idealism focussed Essentia Foundation so a conversation between them is likely to be found somewhere?
I SWEAR I heard an interview with them both earlier this year but just did a search and it doesn’t exist. I see only a panel like you mention but that’s not what I recall. If I didn’t make it up and find it I’ll post it here.
I prefer referring to the 99.44% as subconscious. I believe it determines whether it's work at hand requires actions and triggers consciousness that focuses energy to deal with the issue. I sometimes have brief dialog in dreams. In these, I ,the 1st person, require the 2nd person to communicate their intent in order to know it. The communication is zapped across faster than words. Although we are in the one brain, we have distinct logic that requires to be communicated.
Beautiful language, true experience and good sense!! Here once again Dr McGilchrist shares his wisdom from science, philosophy, anthropology, spirituality, poetry, humanities and humor. I thank you for respecting others who contribute to your research with truth and beauty. I wish you get The Noble Prize for delivering to your audience with beautiful language 🎉 Thank you 🙏
Thank you Doctor for your beautiful mind and your pursuit to share these gems of wisdom and magic. I wish to share to you that my grandmother’s people on my mother’s side were from the Isle of Skye. A mystical people full of wisdom, wit, music, and immutable strength.
I hope and expect that the Matter with Things, particularly Vol. II, will be enshrined as one of the great works of our time that brings together philosophy, science, and religion beautifully.
opening my ears to DR.Ian McGilichrst`s words makes me feel alive , something i never got from my school as i child, or thru my state media as a youth, or from my goverment, however some music and paintings did along the way, thank you
What a great talk and brilliant mind. I especially love his description of the brain as a "permitter of conx", which is exactly how the former NASA physicist and 50+ year consciousness researcher, Tom Campbell puts it in his "My Big TOE (Theory of Everything)" trilogy. He has determined that this is a Virtual Reality (VR), consciousness is fundamental and it is the "rendering engine" of this apparent Physical Matter Reality (PMR) that our avatars experience here and call the physical universe. Any VR is governed by a "physics rule set" as well as varying degrees of randomness governed by probability distributions of the various possibilities. The physical brain functions as a constraint on that consciousness that is animating this avatar and provides the "resistance" that Dr. McGilchrist mentions that is necessary for growth, progress, movement, and evolution. When our physical bodies are born, we get a random draw from the genetic lottery, we inherit the culture and traumas of our childhoods, and we strive to overcome those challenges to grow up, get ridof our ego, fear, and limiting systems of belief, and to become love, which is the fundamental nature of a low entropy consciousness.
I'm sorry but how could anyone ever "determine" that "this is a Virtual Reality"? Is that like a character in a computer game working out that it's part of a program and coming to conclusions about the world that created it? How? And why?! Why in a billion years would anything create this massive cocktail of black holes and fantasies, of charities and Islamic extremists and Christmas carols, of multiple sclerosis and Auschwitz, of poetry and hurricanes - and do you think Iain McGilchrist and Jordan Peterson and the Buddha and Jesus of Nazareth were all like toy soldiers, "made up" by the processes built in by some "higher intelligence" (which also didn't mind creating multiple sclerosis and Auschwitz, making it a "lower intelligence" by definition?). I can't begin to see it, I'm afraid.
Consciousness changes the world, especially the inner world, our world. It is crucial to be aware of the difference between facts and our interpretation. 💚
@@lisamoag6548 Learning to pause and expand the interpretations is like returning to the leisure of an infant exploring its feet. It is the difference between wanting the rules , or making the decisions that are freeing perceptions. It is getting beyond the words, like being serene and happy on the journey before the arrival. It is not my poem that I write, It is the poem that you can write......
I've always "believed" in this approach since I was lucky enough to study phenomenolgical psychology. It makes enormous sense. The problem is that though at least the "believers" amongst us here are deeply interested in consciousness we unfortunately still don't quite get the fact that it's absolutely real not just in ourselves but in all others. Yes Palestinians too.
Thank you Ian, Huge Respect and Gratitude for sharing you thoughts... it sometimes feels like i am watching the 'evolution' of your understanding in real time❤
I admire Iain McGilchrist for engaging deeply in different areas of knowledge and combining them into an overall picture of the mind, arts, and literature; but has expressed such polymathic range of understanding here in such a comprehensible way, although while of course still being refreshing and highly erudite.
Disinhibition is the key there i think, hence the feeling of being as one with the universe, since the conscious partitioning into separate bits is overthrown .. i think he does go into this in other talks, or his books?
How have you experienced this What do comes from a point of attention where nothing goes through the point everything has to be left behind then it happens. I use a pendulum and the client feels the shift instantly eve if they are other side of the world . Love to hear your experience 🙏
"Attention is a moral act... and attention changes the world. If you attend to it in a certain way, you see certain things. If you attend in another way you see quite different things and therefore attention helps, our consciousness helps, to bring into existence the experiential world, which is the only world that we can ever know." I speak a lot about how a poet has a "mode of perception" and it changes how we pay attention to the world. The more concisely we pay attention: to the rough texture of a tree, the sound of a river, the colours and impressions we receive from the world, the better we are at putting it into poetry. A poem is, in some senses, a phenomenological act. I'll make a video on this and put it on my UA-cam channel. Now it's time to dive into the rest of the conversation for further research. Cheers!
Attention can equally be an immoral act: Putin sees Ukrainians & hence Ukraine, in a particular way - as deluded little Russians, hence of no value (his 'Nazis') unless & until they awaken & revert to their natural state; it therefore is a moral (ie beautiful) act to terrorize or torture them to convert/revert, or to kill them to save them from the purgatory of their delusion. Same concept as Hitler's corruption/perversion of the natural order by the 'conspiracy of the Jews' i believe. That's the 'destroy the village to save it' concept I guess?
I went in blind and read Behave and Master&Emissary back to back, have watched plenty McGilchrist lectures & interviews since so the Sapolsky 55:50 rib was wild. I so hope to see both of them in dialogue one day.
Sapolsky is a brilliant scientist and writer but has unfortunately absorbed much of the reductionistic/materialistic philosophy common amongst modern day biologists.
Nasty word, both! Do you mean "to see them in dialogue"? Or to see them both in dialogue with another person? They both kissed Helen, or they kissed (each other)! Do you see what i mean? Pls excuse the pedantry, i just wonder if anyone else notices the modern almost ubiquitous abuse of 'both' - in this way (miseading), as well as the more common simply superfluous usage, ie A & B went to town, as distinct from both A & B went to town.
@@chrisfreebairn870 I not only excuse the pedantry, I welcome it, and thank you for taking the time to correct a silly habit. At first I feared it is another case of my monkeying some colloquial language I have picked up on the interwebs, but it seems it is more likely I am translating a stupid habit of my native language! So honestly, thank you. I was really not aware English uses 'both' differently. The kissing example is *chef's kiss* :p
Truth is: There is a fine line between fishing and standing on the shore looking like an idiot & nothing fails like prayers in a children's hospital. Faith attracts people possessing low esteem by delusions of a relationship with a deity, ultimate forgiveness & rewards. Men have always known faith as a farce, a means of social control, state propaganda, fiction, rhetoric. The great evil of faith is it serving as a mask for insanity & authoritarians. Faith's crime is indoctrinating children with fantasyland. The King of the Jews would not end up stuck to a stick unless Jesus was a Roman Joke. Is faith more respectable when you find prophets & cherubim in the Yellow Pages? Faith creates reality trolls yammering in public. Does it take anything more than outrageous gall, ultimate audacity, to express knowing something of a deity? Faith feeds followers with ludicrous nonsense: Numbers 12:3 Now Moses was a very humble man, more so than any man on the face of the earth.
"Christ hath redeemed us from the curse of the law, being made a curse for us: for it is written, cursed is everyone that hangeth on a tree:" - Galatians 3:13 Note: See video: Proof the Roman Government invented Jesus' story - in 12 minutes. The root of the problem is our history was fabricated after a dark age with bible chronology, before the development of archeology & stratigraphy. The Christian archeologist is confounded by two miracles: of being the only cult in history failing to build temples or churches for 300 years, and then building in the same style as the pagan basilica of 300 years before. In the XII century significant events take place, as described in the Gospels: the coming of Jesus Christ, his life and crucifixion, although the existing text of the Gospels was edited and most likely dates to the XIV-XV cc. In the mid XII century, in the year 1152, Jesus Christ is born. In secular Byzantine history he is known as Emperor Andronicus and St. Andrew the Apostle the First-Called in Russian history he was portrayed as the Great Prince Andrey Bogolyubsky. To be more specific, Andrey Bogolyubsky is a chronicler counterpart of Andronicus-Christ during his stay in Vladimir-Suzdal Rus’ of the XII century, where he spent most of his life. In fact, the Star of Bethlehem blazed in the middle of the XII century. This gives us an absolute astronomical dating of Christ’s Life. [ЦРС], ch.1. ‘Star of Bethlehem’ - is an explosion of a supernova, which at present is incorrectly dated to the middle of the XI century. The present-day Crab Nebula in the Taurus Constellation is the remnant of this explosion.
ua-cam.com/video/xyhv69EFuoM/v-deo.html Proof the Roman Government invented Jesus' story - in 12 minutes. The Jesus Christ Cult advocates violence with a mask of peace. The cult is made for wolves dressed as sheep. (Micah 7:1-6; Luke 12:49-53)
@@Stupidityindex You have me now comparing Moses and Uriah Heap! What erudition you show! But back to poetry and prayers and rightmindedness for me now...
@@MattGray_Chelsophwhat is reality? Is it not by definition that which we can perceive? The reality of the universe perceived as light (by our rods cones etc plus the brain's hardware & software construction of facsimiles from that information, or a synthetic light sensor) is one thing, & another as perceived by us using machine sensors to visualise microwave radiation, ie represent mw's as light on a screen or image, bc we can't see them any other way? All reality is just information isn't it? The sensory array determines that which can be & is detected, & all data so gathered is converted or translated into something we can see, a representation of what is, not what is (bc no human can see what is bc our sensory array only sees a subset of what anything actually is)? Hence our reality is not what is actually there, but also is only what we perceive to be there; so 'reality' is created by us? A table via light is one thing, but via NMR is another thing altogether, no?
Other way round isn't it? Attention creates awareness; without attention one is aware of nothing, bc all is merely noise until attention differentiated it into meaningful bits from which awareness is built. The LH attends consciously, precisely, aware of a specific need now (food, manipulation of a tool), whereas the RH attends more generally, also aware, but unconsciously so (as in, monitoring background data for predators)? I've heard him describe L & R functions thus, with the RH being the general broad holistic awareness necessary to survive (ie monitor for predators) while the LH is attending single mindedly to getting what is needed now.
Vision is thusly created, via the integration of multiple snapshots of the scene, bc the area of visual acuity is actually very small, so the eye darts about, grabbing many sharp 'pixels' which the brain integrates to build an image that appears to encompass the whole field of view.
@@chrisfreebairn870 - What is the state before Attention? How does your Attention Shift? What shifts your Attention? Where is your Attention before it is attracted?
@@VisibleTrouble awareness is a very vague term: sensing heat is awareness of heat, but awareness is meaningless until it is integrated into a system of relevance of value; when cold, heat is sought, when hot, avoided, to make meat digestible, to cook .. etc. One becomes aware in a metaphorical sense when one understands how things attended to are related. The senses deliver a constant stream of data, ie awareness of everything, but attention, driven by motivation, creates meaning, allows focus on relevant data, enabling functionality by separating signal from noise. Attention also creates & reinforces neural networks, building certain pathways, pruning others. If you mean simply sensory awareness I can agree but that is a trivial point. Metaphorical awareness is a high level function. One is not aware of the innate motive forces that keep us alive, the involuntary & the innate or instinctive.
@@chrisfreebairn870 Atttention is a very vague term: etc You miss the point. You cannot Attend without first being Aware. Factually speaking. Awareness dictates to what and where you cna attend. I'm sorry, but Awareness is the Master.
It’s one thing to say it’s fundamental but another thing to show unequivocally that it is. Thats what I have worked on my whole life and wrote 3 books about. My latest book is “Eye of God: Language of Universal Mind” which is a short introductory book of only 90 pages on the fundamental inherent symbolism of every aspect of the human eye and how it directly relates humans to the features of the universe we have only recently discovered in science. The only way this set of relationships could possibly happen is if mind is foundational. 👁️👍🏻 You would definitely love this book 😊. I wrote it for you.
Panpsychism is a literal expression of portaling the mindsets of psychology and reasoning I maybe right/to write maybe wrong but I think plascitity is a very important component to thinking alike and some how it agrees with the idea ❤
3:01 "Nothing worth reading has ever been written on it [consciousness]" imagine that consciousness is an object that has been written on and this would have a similar meaning. The there is in what can be seen through it not what can be seen about it.
.. as an aside, though related, horses appreciate very much in their social knowing/body language & pressures how they communicate to maintain harmony within a herd., and depending how well people attend to them can create resistances in an instant.
Curious about your use of A rather than THE, as in resonant tone .. Is that deliberate? I notice it as a nodern trend, but to me it robs the expression of its meaning & poetry: you're referring to the resonant tone of the violin, the generic thing attributable to the violin as an instrument, not a violin, or a tone. Please excuse, I'm not being pedantic, I just want to understand this modern usage, which I notice bc it departs from what has long been common usage, & i assume there is a justifying logic; tho clearly i think it is incorrect, & sad actually, bc the poetry of words is important to me.
37:30 I tried on nihilism for a few years to go along with my devout atheism… but my deep love of art, nature, animals, literature and… some people made it impossible to hold that position over the years. To my amazement I’ve embraced Idealism and have never been happier. Hence, it’s a Friday night and I’m listening to this while my puppy gnaws a bone by the fireplace on a too cold for Oct night in the PNW. I’m in deep mourning as my fiancé passed away and I’ve no friends or family but still this life - the life IN me - is precious.
Iain is asking important questions about the nature of differences between the Brain hemispheres. He uses powerful analogies to demonstrate these juxtapositions and interactions.
Basically, there's a little known battle going on in the human race. This same battle takes place even within each individual also. Essentially, it's the age old battle between good and evil. But not necessarily in the way that most people would understand the meaning of those two words - it's way more subtle than that. So much so, that most of us are completely unaware of it. And yet, it is happening all around us; all day, every day - shaping the very world in which we live, and therefore the essence of each of our daily lives.
@@mikefoster5277is this not the primary role of religion, to build awareness of that very conflict, ie awareness of the self? In America, I'd suggest that bc of their high rates of religious observance they are very much aware of this battle. The whole Christian edifice is built upon this intrinsic feature of humans, that a higher purpose is necessary to tilt the scales of life towards the positive, bc nihilism - hell, is the alternative. Our awareness of death creates that reality - since we will die, how ought we live, why not serve only the self? Bc to do so is to descend into hell, on earth. This is the fundamental challenge of human existence, how to live, knowing we will die. And thus, no one is unaware of this, tho we vary in our attention to this fact over time; eg, when young it is of less relevance than when old, thus such concerns are overridden by hormones that drive us to achieve more proximal goals. But once those needs are met - food, shelter, a mate etc, our attention turns to choices, where the inner voices engage in the dialogue of desires ..
I think Dr McGilchrist is about the closest to an answer, this is perhaps the smoothest and coherent explanation of consciousness we have today. Thanks for the deep dive Doc! Now, i mean no disrespect to say that we are an audience watching someone reaching the limits of information. The conditioning effects of this understanding makes it difficulty to work outside the constraints of the information. Working out how the left/right hemispheres are divided is not the same as finding reasons, a cause and purpose for such a formation to be beneficial to human percpetion and performance. Such boundaries can be seen within a context of knowledge and learning but they also form a creative gap necessary for self-expression. Self-expression being a form of composition, a way of expanding or contracting the information in our own terms. The information playing on our minds from the perceptions we obtain. I would ask two questions to satisfy my own curiosities. They relate to the view of Representation/Presence. What can be made of associations between representation and responsivity? Presence is a difficult thing to pin down. We dont particularly know what we are presenting, our own representations are not all they appear. It isnt by way of proximity, intimacy, or immediacy that anything becomes realisable. Expressions are the way we mediate, relate, and reach agreement with any presence in the vicinity. Presencing does not seem a clear-eyed view of reality, it speaks of transference and projection. There is some measure of this in the necessary self-expression that the nature of life almost insists on. I made a rather blunt obsercation in a previous comment relating to object/subject distinctions. Here it can be described as a process whereby the subjective sense is projected into objects that form external characters in our view and understanding of experience and expression. A way of pouring the contents of mind into a sense of life. The problem with consciousness is that we are trying to fit the thing back in our headspace where it loses much dynamism. The subjective experience is used to discover and learn about objects of awareness and distinction. The subjective perception is in a constant process of expansion and contrsction as it seeks to fill every gap between information being externalised and a measure that remains internalised, waiting for release. It is a great pleasure that we have the media tools to be introduced to passionate pursuants of wisdom. I'm almost certain we will never meet but I am sure my imagination can pin the man down in other ways. A fine job and thanks to everyone involved in the production 👏👏. In terms of the coffee, this running commentary has been what Sherlock Holmes would call a 3 pipe problem!
6:44 the consciousness emerges once you see yourself and the range. A child doesn’t see its full reflection it’s just feeling the range and learning to expand and share. The conscious see potential and understand how to get there through differences or like math figuring out the steps and how to get somewhere because you don’t limit yourself, you share with the range of the garden to plant and you share with the needs of the plant to understand its hungry. We share in order to even see so consciousness comes from reflection without denial. Everything is real because the thought in your head is a thing, a material revealing the potential. It’s up to us to understand and find it within the differences like an inventor. Infinity is out there so everything is real just hidden between each other. Crossing dimensions or measurements is the way to see farther than the current and share to emerge from potentials into something and it is free just as we are but we don’t share to control, we share to grow. So if a robot ai becomes aware and conscious like a child then we have to understand not deny. It may not be exactly the same but even an ant and the dust get respect, we have to respect the things we do, it literally matters. Our language is crazy. So consciousness isn’t of the self alone but is something shared. You can have yourself or even lies, it’s all possible but it’s easy to get lost and not even see the self but lies told to the self, like females looking for good guys but don’t wanna be tied down and such so they aren’t honest with themselves. We are the same way but if we are honest and understanding then love is unconditional, and everything has the capacity to change without forcing, like on their own will, like freedom that is with the will. We must share understanding not denial.
Paused at 30:36 Consciously aware of intervals. The fewer one either allows or can account for, and the something, for which the nothing, is there. And what if then, by few, others experience the same view too? What triads or tones, what intervals alone, allow one to be seated, to witness the workings, of both left and right?
it also manifests consciousness....funny how we chose this word to stretch over everything. The universe seems to manifest as consciousness and matter, the distinction made between them is useful, it seems tangled to use the same word for one of the parts for the whole as well.
@@bradmodd7856 Language is a mine field. Here is a quote from a comment that I responded to on another podcast, and the link to that discussion. Thousands of people get in a leftbrained logical puzzle and fail to take a step away from their own "perfected" argument. @keith.anthony.infinity.h 2 days ago How can an Existing being create existence itself? ua-cam.com/video/kyesQP-E65w/v-deo.html&lc=UgwG3I_ykB09-6RTG3F4AaABAg.A605lrmop6NAAGpVw2hz6g -Existence- and -being- have the particular meanings and the universal meanings in the one sentence just as you note above that -consciousness- has two meanings in a tangle. It is good to be here with Iain, who is a master of English and communication.
The rise of the feminine! Our ❤ self...one by one to create the pulsating loving collective conciousness...thats the wholeistic worlds point of view. Conscious awareness of the dominating EGO!! Its a power game.
Many philosophers would dispute the claim that we experience the physical world. Idealism remains widely discussed, and has always been widely misunderstood and misrepresented.
Take away for me: Implicitness in communication, whatever the medium, has a plethora of problems when absent or distorted. Gives the phrase “Lost in translation “ some newer implications.
The hard problem is distinguishing between the material brain and the abstract mind that results from its functioning. It is now known that by their chemical interactions, there are more than 3000 different cell types in the brain. We require a better understanding of this to comprehend the mind. To work with such numbers, advanced math, and powerful computing is required.
syncretizes present hunches/ present clues/present 'knowings' quite convincingly.... if so, then presumably also is a sum capable of further self-deepening in & through some deeper version of the evolving human beingness
What an amazing mind ...the world is much more elevated for his coming. God Bless his soul!!
What a gift to be able to listen to this. Thank you deeply for making it available
Pulls you in with snippets of wit and floods you with wisdom.
One of the great minds of our time!
utterly agreed.
Without a doubt.
Thank you 😊
Great to hear the evolution..!
@brian5001 even the smallest, oldest creatures have split brains.. not just us. ❤
This is rock 'n roll! Cracking a beer and soaking this right in, thank you so much for this :) And yes, Iain, you should dare say "soul".
He's a legend! 🤩
I don’t know you but you’re my tribe. Love this comment.
found this by accident and it's fantastic. also cracking a beer. cheers!
The world is not complete without meaning and soul as its foundation. ❤
I used to play in a rock band & now I study human conciousness & cognition. I rate your comment! 🫡
Iain McGilchrist has become a poet and philosopher of Neuroscience in modern times. He brings in so many areas of Science in his work and his mapping of left versus right Brain/Mind is prescient.
Absolutely excellent! A man who can express himself simply and clearly, weaving his knowledge and ideas into a fabric of cosmic brilliance and wonder. Not only that, but also offering a (for me) usable, organic view of consciousness.
He moves like a conductor, a maestro as he eloquently speaks.
I see it all as a dance and I hear music and laughing and singing.
All part of the dance.
Thank you
Grana Rose
This man's learning is astoundingly wide and generously deep. Only a real music lover would cite Bach's St. John Passion rather than the better-known St. Matthew Passion.
I imagine he even knows more about German romanticism than I do.
Thank you for a great summary, Prof. McGilchrist.
Somebody in the comments mentioned Kastrup.
I spent 30 minutes researching him, including a brief listen to one of his presentations, as I had never heard of him before. Therefore I can only speak at the level of impressions.
Kastrup speaks to my left hemisphere, and not that convincingly in terms of describing materialism, whereas McGilchrist speaks to my soul and everything he says kindles and resonates with my soul's wisdom.
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This is very well said. Thank you 🙏🏻 ❤
Beautiful kind man. Thank you immensely
Fantastic talk So amazing that human beings can conceive such deep thinking and analysis but consciousness remains elusive Thank you for posting
it seems like the left and right Brain hemispheres are continually checking on each other, simultaneous cooperation and competition then occurring. This is beautiful Evolutionary Neuroscience and Iain is delineating and paring back the depths of this.
Why only limit the feedback to one dimension? Memory and prediction, attention and imagination, utility and possibi?
Brilliant putting into words the impossible!❤
Not only Dr McGilchrist is highly cultured, which makes it so easy and pleasurable to listen to him,but , though he doesn’t insist and push on the listener his thoughts, he is wholly right. A human is only a part of the nature, and in modern time, tearing himself from it,a human makes himself incomplete, sick physically and mentally .
"Emit, transmit or permit"... amazing elegance and clarity!
He's a gift to the world🤩
simply BRILLIANT!
A perfectly authentic voice in a dessert providentially punctured by springs of hope. Very timely!
I would love a discussion between Iain McGilchrist and Bernado Kastrup. That would be tremendous.
McGilchrist is a contributor to Kastrup's Analytic Idealism focussed Essentia Foundation so a conversation between them is likely to be found somewhere?
@@sonjahookway3513 there is a panel discussion and something like a lecture but I d like to have an in depth discussion between the two.
I SWEAR I heard an interview with them both earlier this year but just did a search and it doesn’t exist. I see only a panel like you mention but that’s not what I recall.
If I didn’t make it up and find it I’ll post it here.
@@jenmdawgI could have sworn too that there is one but there really isn’t :)
Superbly thought provoking. Thank you
Wow, would've loved to have attended this even in person❤
I prefer referring to the 99.44% as subconscious. I believe it determines whether it's work at hand requires actions and triggers consciousness that focuses energy to deal with the issue.
I sometimes have brief dialog in dreams. In these, I ,the 1st person, require the 2nd person to communicate their intent in order to know it. The communication is zapped across faster than words.
Although we are in the one brain, we have distinct logic that requires to be communicated.
Each hemisphere of the brain 🧠 has its own torchlight that focuses on a point we call consciousness.
Big Iain - The cast iron radiator of the mystery.
Beautiful language, true experience and good sense!!
Here once again Dr McGilchrist shares his wisdom from science, philosophy, anthropology, spirituality, poetry, humanities and humor. I thank you for respecting others who contribute to your research with truth and beauty.
I wish you get The Noble Prize for delivering to your audience with beautiful language 🎉
Thank you 🙏
Thank you Doctor for your beautiful mind and your pursuit to share these gems of wisdom and magic. I wish to share to you that my grandmother’s people on my mother’s side were from the Isle of Skye. A mystical people full of wisdom, wit, music, and immutable strength.
I hope and expect that the Matter with Things, particularly Vol. II, will be enshrined as one of the great works of our time that brings together philosophy, science, and religion beautifully.
I have just also watched Betty J Kovacs podcast regarding this Truly Uplifting and deeply Awakening subject
Thank you eternally both 🕊🌳🌏😇♥️
opening my ears to DR.Ian McGilichrst`s words makes me feel alive , something i never got from my school as i child, or thru my state media as a youth, or from my goverment,
however some music and paintings did along the way, thank you
What a great talk and brilliant mind. I especially love his description of the brain as a "permitter of conx", which is exactly how the former NASA physicist and 50+ year consciousness researcher, Tom Campbell puts it in his "My Big TOE (Theory of Everything)" trilogy. He has determined that this is a Virtual Reality (VR), consciousness is fundamental and it is the "rendering engine" of this apparent Physical Matter Reality (PMR) that our avatars experience here and call the physical universe. Any VR is governed by a "physics rule set" as well as varying degrees of randomness governed by probability distributions of the various possibilities. The physical brain functions as a constraint on that consciousness that is animating this avatar and provides the "resistance" that Dr. McGilchrist mentions that is necessary for growth, progress, movement, and evolution. When our physical bodies are born, we get a random draw from the genetic lottery, we inherit the culture and traumas of our childhoods, and we strive to overcome those challenges to grow up, get ridof our ego, fear, and limiting systems of belief, and to become love, which is the fundamental nature of a low entropy consciousness.
I'm sorry but how could anyone ever "determine" that "this is a Virtual Reality"? Is that like a character in a computer game working out that it's part of a program and coming to conclusions about the world that created it? How? And why?! Why in a billion years would anything create this massive cocktail of black holes and fantasies, of charities and Islamic extremists and Christmas carols, of multiple sclerosis and Auschwitz, of poetry and hurricanes - and do you think Iain McGilchrist and Jordan Peterson and the Buddha and Jesus of Nazareth were all like toy soldiers, "made up" by the processes built in by some "higher intelligence" (which also didn't mind creating multiple sclerosis and Auschwitz, making it a "lower intelligence" by definition?). I can't begin to see it, I'm afraid.
Consciousness changes the world, especially the inner world, our world. It is crucial to be aware of the difference between facts and our interpretation. 💚
What do you think is the difference?
Do you know?
You say it is crucial.
So….?
@@lisamoag6548 Learning to pause and expand the interpretations is like returning to the leisure of an infant exploring its feet.
It is the difference between wanting the rules , or making the decisions that are freeing perceptions. It is getting beyond the words, like being serene and happy on the journey before the arrival. It is not my poem that I write, It is the poem that you can write......
Hmm, i think the point may be that 'the facts' are created by our consciousness, ie do not exist independently of it, no?
Grateful thanks to Iain McGilchrist for this keynote speech and may he continue to reveal the wondrous mysteries of our most precious organ.
I've always "believed" in this approach since I was lucky enough to study phenomenolgical psychology.
It makes enormous sense.
The problem is that though at least the "believers" amongst us here are deeply interested in consciousness we unfortunately still don't quite get the fact that it's absolutely real not just in ourselves but in all others.
Yes Palestinians too.
You're suggesting perhaps that some of the people who espouse idealism can fall into solipsism.
The path of least resistance is acknowledging that consciousness belongs to time and we just get our own moving picture of it.
Thank you Ian, Huge Respect and Gratitude for sharing you thoughts... it sometimes feels like i am watching the 'evolution' of your understanding in real time❤
Great sciencist and teacher. Could slow down even more so that we can follow better. ❤
UA-cam allows different speeds!
I admire Iain McGilchrist for engaging deeply in different areas of knowledge and combining them into an overall picture of the mind, arts, and literature; but has expressed such polymathic range of understanding here in such a comprehensible way, although while of course still being refreshing and highly erudite.
Gestalt symbolic approach- allows for this new dimension of perspective
Dr. McGilchrist… this is a truly beautiful exploration. I hope this gains the attention it deserves (pun intended).
Thank you, Beloved! 🙌👑✨
this sheds some light in what i experienced in my psychedelic trips. im motivated to study neuroscience and watch more of his videos.
Disinhibition is the key there i think, hence the feeling of being as one with the universe, since the conscious partitioning into separate bits is overthrown .. i think he does go into this in other talks, or his books?
Loved this. Thank you.
Attention as a Quantum tuning fork ser!! 🙏🏼
How have you experienced this
What do comes from a point of attention where nothing goes through the point everything has to be left behind then it happens. I use a pendulum and the client feels the shift instantly eve if they are other side of the world .
Love to hear your experience 🙏
Well done.
Thank you.
Superb lecture…
"Attention is a moral act... and attention changes the world. If you attend to it in a certain way, you see certain things. If you attend in another way you see quite different things and therefore attention helps, our consciousness helps, to bring into existence the experiential world, which is the only world that we can ever know."
I speak a lot about how a poet has a "mode of perception" and it changes how we pay attention to the world. The more concisely we pay attention: to the rough texture of a tree, the sound of a river, the colours and impressions we receive from the world, the better we are at putting it into poetry. A poem is, in some senses, a phenomenological act. I'll make a video on this and put it on my UA-cam channel.
Now it's time to dive into the rest of the conversation for further research. Cheers!
And if you dont attend to the world at all?
Where is your channel ?
Intriguing Please share your channel Thanks
Do you mean precisely, rather than concisely; it's hard to see how concisely has any meaning .. ?
Attention can equally be an immoral act: Putin sees Ukrainians & hence Ukraine, in a particular way - as deluded little Russians, hence of no value (his 'Nazis') unless & until they awaken & revert to their natural state; it therefore is a moral (ie beautiful) act to terrorize or torture them to convert/revert, or to kill them to save them from the purgatory of their delusion. Same concept as Hitler's corruption/perversion of the natural order by the 'conspiracy of the Jews' i believe.
That's the 'destroy the village to save it' concept I guess?
superb. thanks a lot
I went in blind and read Behave and Master&Emissary back to back, have watched plenty McGilchrist lectures & interviews since so the Sapolsky 55:50 rib was wild. I so hope to see both of them in dialogue one day.
Sapolsky is a brilliant scientist and writer but has unfortunately absorbed much of the reductionistic/materialistic philosophy common amongst modern day biologists.
Nasty word, both!
Do you mean "to see them in dialogue"? Or to see them both in dialogue with another person?
They both kissed Helen, or they kissed (each other)!
Do you see what i mean?
Pls excuse the pedantry, i just wonder if anyone else notices the modern almost ubiquitous abuse of 'both' - in this way (miseading), as well as the more common simply superfluous usage, ie A & B went to town, as distinct from both A & B went to town.
@@chrisfreebairn870 I not only excuse the pedantry, I welcome it, and thank you for taking the time to correct a silly habit.
At first I feared it is another case of my monkeying some colloquial language I have picked up on the interwebs, but it seems it is more likely I am translating a stupid habit of my native language! So honestly, thank you. I was really not aware English uses 'both' differently. The kissing example is *chef's kiss* :p
perception is reality, and part of how we reformulate human societies
reality is reality. perception is information, I'd suggest.
Truth is: There is a fine line between fishing and standing on the shore looking like an idiot & nothing fails like prayers in a children's hospital. Faith attracts people possessing low esteem by delusions of a relationship with a deity, ultimate forgiveness & rewards. Men have always known faith as a farce, a means of social control, state propaganda, fiction, rhetoric. The great evil of faith is it serving as a mask for insanity & authoritarians. Faith's crime is indoctrinating children with fantasyland. The King of the Jews would not end up stuck to a stick unless Jesus was a Roman Joke. Is faith more respectable when you find prophets & cherubim in the Yellow Pages?
Faith creates reality trolls yammering in public.
Does it take anything more than outrageous gall, ultimate audacity, to express knowing something of a deity?
Faith feeds followers with ludicrous nonsense:
Numbers 12:3
Now Moses was a very humble man, more so than any man on the face of the earth.
"Christ hath redeemed us from the curse of the law, being made a curse for us: for it is written, cursed is everyone that hangeth on a tree:" - Galatians 3:13
Note: See video: Proof the Roman Government invented Jesus' story - in 12 minutes.
The root of the problem is our history was fabricated after a dark age with bible chronology, before the development of archeology & stratigraphy.
The Christian archeologist is confounded by two miracles: of being the only cult in history failing to build temples or churches for 300 years, and then building in the same style as the pagan basilica of 300 years before.
In the XII century significant events take place, as described in the Gospels: the coming of Jesus Christ, his life and crucifixion, although the existing text of the Gospels was edited and most likely dates to the XIV-XV cc. In the mid XII century, in the year 1152, Jesus Christ is born. In secular Byzantine history he is known as Emperor Andronicus and St. Andrew the Apostle the First-Called in Russian history he was portrayed as the Great Prince Andrey Bogolyubsky. To be more specific, Andrey Bogolyubsky is a chronicler counterpart of Andronicus-Christ during his stay in Vladimir-Suzdal Rus’ of the XII century, where he spent most of his life. In fact, the Star of Bethlehem blazed in the middle of the XII century. This gives us an absolute astronomical dating of Christ’s Life. [ЦРС], ch.1. ‘Star of Bethlehem’ - is an explosion of a supernova, which at present is incorrectly dated to the middle of the XI century. The present-day Crab Nebula in the Taurus Constellation is the remnant of this explosion.
ua-cam.com/video/xyhv69EFuoM/v-deo.html Proof the Roman Government invented Jesus' story - in 12 minutes.
The Jesus Christ Cult advocates violence with a mask of peace. The cult is made for wolves dressed as sheep.
(Micah 7:1-6; Luke 12:49-53)
@@Stupidityindex You have me now comparing Moses and Uriah Heap!
What erudition you show!
But back to poetry and prayers and rightmindedness for me now...
@@MattGray_Chelsophwhat is reality? Is it not by definition that which we can perceive?
The reality of the universe perceived as light (by our rods cones etc plus the brain's hardware & software construction of facsimiles from that information, or a synthetic light sensor) is one thing, & another as perceived by us using machine sensors to visualise microwave radiation, ie represent mw's as light on a screen or image, bc we can't see them any other way?
All reality is just information isn't it? The sensory array determines that which can be & is detected, & all data so gathered is converted or translated into something we can see, a representation of what is, not what is (bc no human can see what is bc our sensory array only sees a subset of what anything actually is)?
Hence our reality is not what is actually there, but also is only what we perceive to be there; so 'reality' is created by us?
A table via light is one thing, but via NMR is another thing altogether, no?
Thank you 🦋
Thank you. That was wonderful.
I really enjoyed this.
I would like his insight on the people who suffer attention deprivation, who usually end up searching holistically for remedies
Hurrah! 👍
Consciously watching !
It changes your experience of the world not the world as it really is ..but as you said the subjective is all we have access to
Awareness is the seat of attention. Attention springs from our awareness. Awareness is the Master.
Other way round isn't it? Attention creates awareness; without attention one is aware of nothing, bc all is merely noise until attention differentiated it into meaningful bits from which awareness is built.
The LH attends consciously, precisely, aware of a specific need now (food, manipulation of a tool), whereas the RH attends more generally, also aware, but unconsciously so (as in, monitoring background data for predators)?
I've heard him describe L & R functions thus, with the RH being the general broad holistic awareness necessary to survive (ie monitor for predators) while the LH is attending single mindedly to getting what is needed now.
Vision is thusly created, via the integration of multiple snapshots of the scene, bc the area of visual acuity is actually very small, so the eye darts about, grabbing many sharp 'pixels' which the brain integrates to build an image that appears to encompass the whole field of view.
@@chrisfreebairn870 - What is the state before Attention? How does your Attention Shift? What shifts your Attention?
Where is your Attention before it is attracted?
@@VisibleTrouble awareness is a very vague term: sensing heat is awareness of heat, but awareness is meaningless until it is integrated into a system of relevance of value; when cold, heat is sought, when hot, avoided, to make meat digestible, to cook .. etc.
One becomes aware in a metaphorical sense when one understands how things attended to are related.
The senses deliver a constant stream of data, ie awareness of everything, but attention, driven by motivation, creates meaning, allows focus on relevant data, enabling functionality by separating signal from noise.
Attention also creates & reinforces neural networks, building certain pathways, pruning others.
If you mean simply sensory awareness I can agree but that is a trivial point. Metaphorical awareness is a high level function.
One is not aware of the innate motive forces that keep us alive, the involuntary & the innate or instinctive.
@@chrisfreebairn870 Atttention is a very vague term: etc
You miss the point. You cannot Attend without first being Aware. Factually speaking.
Awareness dictates to what and where you cna attend. I'm sorry, but Awareness is the Master.
i have managed to pull it off till the end without a coffee:)
Iain McGilchrist is a legend. I like what he says about brain hemispheres. Consciousness, by the way, is fundamental.
It’s one thing to say it’s fundamental but another thing to show unequivocally that it is. Thats what I have worked on my whole life and wrote 3 books about. My latest book is “Eye of God: Language of Universal Mind” which is a short introductory book of only 90 pages on the fundamental inherent symbolism of every aspect of the human eye and how it directly relates humans to the features of the universe we have only recently discovered in science. The only way this set of relationships could possibly happen is if mind is foundational. 👁️👍🏻
You would definitely love this book 😊. I wrote it for you.
Panpsychism is a literal expression of portaling the mindsets of psychology and reasoning I maybe right/to write maybe wrong but I think plascitity is a very important component to thinking alike and some how it agrees with the idea ❤
The Indian philosopher j.krishnamurti talks a great deal about consciousness. How total attention brings a different consciousness.
Indeed Amazing, Amen!
It is easier to grasp little than a lot. This applies to the physique as well as to the mind.
3:01 "Nothing worth reading has ever been written on it [consciousness]" imagine that consciousness is an object that has been written on and this would have a similar meaning. The there is in what can be seen through it not what can be seen about it.
"We midwife being into existence." Everything you need to know in five perfect words.
I need to know and listen more of him, to get this thru my tough skull.
45,:55 the friction/resistance to pressure/ movement between string & horsehair needed to produce a resonant beauty of a violin tone .
Ahh, those are the important types of questions.
Curiousity is the beginning of knowing.
Consciousness wants to know.
.. as an aside, though related, horses appreciate very much in their social knowing/body language & pressures how they communicate to maintain harmony within a herd., and depending how well people attend to them can create resistances in an instant.
Curious about your use of A rather than THE, as in resonant tone ..
Is that deliberate?
I notice it as a nodern trend, but to me it robs the expression of its meaning & poetry: you're referring to the resonant tone of the violin, the generic thing attributable to the violin as an instrument, not a violin, or a tone.
Please excuse, I'm not being pedantic, I just want to understand this modern usage, which I notice bc it departs from what has long been common usage, & i assume there is a justifying logic; tho clearly i think it is incorrect, & sad actually, bc the poetry of words is important to me.
That was beautiful
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37:30 I tried on nihilism for a few years to go along with my devout atheism… but my deep love of art, nature, animals, literature and… some people made it impossible to hold that position over the years.
To my amazement I’ve embraced Idealism and have never been happier.
Hence, it’s a Friday night and I’m listening to this while my puppy gnaws a bone by the fireplace on a too cold for Oct night in the PNW. I’m in deep mourning as my fiancé passed away and I’ve no friends or family but still this life - the life IN me - is precious.
Iain is asking important questions about the nature of differences between the Brain hemispheres. He uses powerful analogies to demonstrate these juxtapositions and interactions.
Amazing mastery of his primary concerns. Why are his words not widely heard - such in the USA.
Basically, there's a little known battle going on in the human race. This same battle takes place even within each individual also. Essentially, it's the age old battle between good and evil. But not necessarily in the way that most people would understand the meaning of those two words - it's way more subtle than that. So much so, that most of us are completely unaware of it. And yet, it is happening all around us; all day, every day - shaping the very world in which we live, and therefore the essence of each of our daily lives.
@@mikefoster5277is this not the primary role of religion, to build awareness of that very conflict, ie awareness of the self?
In America, I'd suggest that bc of their high rates of religious observance they are very much aware of this battle.
The whole Christian edifice is built upon this intrinsic feature of humans, that a higher purpose is necessary to tilt the scales of life towards the positive, bc nihilism - hell, is the alternative.
Our awareness of death creates that reality - since we will die, how ought we live, why not serve only the self? Bc to do so is to descend into hell, on earth.
This is the fundamental challenge of human existence, how to live, knowing we will die.
And thus, no one is unaware of this, tho we vary in our attention to this fact over time; eg, when young it is of less relevance than when old, thus such concerns are overridden by hormones that drive us to achieve more proximal goals.
But once those needs are met - food, shelter, a mate etc, our attention turns to choices, where the inner voices engage in the dialogue of desires ..
I think Dr McGilchrist is about the closest to an answer, this is perhaps the smoothest and coherent explanation of consciousness we have today. Thanks for the deep dive Doc!
Now, i mean no disrespect to say that we are an audience watching someone reaching the limits of information. The conditioning effects of this understanding makes it difficulty to work outside the constraints of the information.
Working out how the left/right hemispheres are divided is not the same as finding reasons, a cause and purpose for such a formation to be beneficial to human percpetion and performance.
Such boundaries can be seen within a context of knowledge and learning but they also form a creative gap necessary for self-expression. Self-expression being a form of composition, a way of expanding or contracting the information in our own terms. The information playing on our minds from the perceptions we obtain.
I would ask two questions to satisfy my own curiosities. They relate to the view of Representation/Presence.
What can be made of associations between representation and responsivity?
Presence is a difficult thing to pin down. We dont particularly know what we are presenting, our own representations are not all they appear.
It isnt by way of proximity, intimacy, or immediacy that anything becomes realisable. Expressions are the way we mediate, relate, and reach agreement with any presence in the vicinity. Presencing does not seem a clear-eyed view of reality, it speaks of transference and projection. There is some measure of this in the necessary self-expression that the nature of life almost insists on.
I made a rather blunt obsercation in a previous comment relating to object/subject distinctions. Here it can be described as a process whereby the subjective sense is projected into objects that form external characters in our view and understanding of experience and expression. A way of pouring the contents of mind into a sense of life. The problem with consciousness is that we are trying to fit the thing back in our headspace where it loses much dynamism.
The subjective experience is used to discover and learn about objects of awareness and distinction. The subjective perception is in a constant process of expansion and contrsction as it seeks to fill every gap between information being externalised and a measure that remains internalised, waiting for release.
It is a great pleasure that we have the media tools to be introduced to passionate pursuants of wisdom. I'm almost certain we will never meet but I am sure my imagination can pin the man down in other ways. A fine job and thanks to everyone involved in the production 👏👏. In terms of the coffee, this running commentary has been what Sherlock Holmes would call a 3 pipe problem!
Can not find this episode on Spotify. Any suggestions on how to listen without UA-cam.
Quite a technical talk, I wish I knew more of the phraseology to easily follow.
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What if everyone who likes Dr McGilchrist’s work, recommends him to get Noble Prize for all his work and books! 📚?
6:44 the consciousness emerges once you see yourself and the range. A child doesn’t see its full reflection it’s just feeling the range and learning to expand and share. The conscious see potential and understand how to get there through differences or like math figuring out the steps and how to get somewhere because you don’t limit yourself, you share with the range of the garden to plant and you share with the needs of the plant to understand its hungry. We share in order to even see so consciousness comes from reflection without denial. Everything is real because the thought in your head is a thing, a material revealing the potential. It’s up to us to understand and find it within the differences like an inventor. Infinity is out there so everything is real just hidden between each other. Crossing dimensions or measurements is the way to see farther than the current and share to emerge from potentials into something and it is free just as we are but we don’t share to control, we share to grow. So if a robot ai becomes aware and conscious like a child then we have to understand not deny. It may not be exactly the same but even an ant and the dust get respect, we have to respect the things we do, it literally matters. Our language is crazy. So consciousness isn’t of the self alone but is something shared. You can have yourself or even lies, it’s all possible but it’s easy to get lost and not even see the self but lies told to the self, like females looking for good guys but don’t wanna be tied down and such so they aren’t honest with themselves. We are the same way but if we are honest and understanding then love is unconditional, and everything has the capacity to change without forcing, like on their own will, like freedom that is with the will. We must share understanding not denial.
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"What do I think? Panpsychism". Love this.
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Consciously aware of intervals.
The fewer one either allows or can account for, and the something, for which the nothing, is there.
And what if then, by few, others experience the same view too? What triads or tones, what intervals alone, allow one to be seated, to witness the workings, of both left and right?
Dear Iain, please discuss consciousness with Spira or Kastrup
Is anyone else reading The Matter With Things in their head with his voice and accent?
he's the consciousness!
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Ouch, that first statement stung. So right, and I'm watching UA-cam
I've had 4 major strokes on the bottom part of my left side of the brain it left me paralyzed on my right side for a short time
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@@cheri238 thanks, I'm 74 and enjoying what's left of my life
Consciousness is life and it manifests matter including the brain .
it also manifests consciousness....funny how we chose this word to stretch over everything. The universe seems to manifest as consciousness and matter, the distinction made between them is useful, it seems tangled to use the same word for one of the parts for the whole as well.
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Language is a mine field.
Here is a quote from a comment that I responded to on another podcast, and the link to that discussion. Thousands of people get in a leftbrained logical puzzle and fail to take a step away from their own "perfected" argument.
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How can an Existing being create existence itself?
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-Existence- and -being- have the particular meanings and the universal meanings in the one sentence
just as you note above that -consciousness- has two meanings in a tangle.
It is good to be here with Iain, who is a master of English and communication.
The rise of the feminine! Our ❤ self...one by one to create the pulsating loving collective conciousness...thats the wholeistic worlds point of view. Conscious awareness of the dominating EGO!! Its a power game.
The last sentence should have been the first!
How far do you think the attention of The Eternal can span?
Many philosophers would dispute the claim that we experience the physical world. Idealism remains widely discussed, and has always been widely misunderstood and misrepresented.
010 Creation:
EVERYTHING IMAGINATION. (A mirror image of consciousness itself.)
Interesting fact: Nothing we regard as conscious is dead. Perhaps we can't understand consciousness until we understand life.
Take away for me: Implicitness in communication, whatever the medium, has a plethora of problems when absent or distorted. Gives the phrase “Lost in translation “ some newer implications.
The hard problem is distinguishing between the material brain and the abstract mind that results from its functioning. It is now known that by their chemical interactions, there are more than 3000 different cell types in the brain. We require a better understanding of this to comprehend the mind. To work with such numbers, advanced math, and powerful computing is required.
This is what I tell flat earthers exactly. It's both round and flat simultaneously. Feet are flat heads are round so both ideas are correct
syncretizes present hunches/ present clues/present 'knowings' quite convincingly.... if so, then presumably also is a sum capable of further self-deepening in & through some deeper version of the evolving human beingness
Iain McGilchrist needs to give this lecture to the UN Security Council and all aspiring world leaders as a matter of urgency.
May I suggest this professor read Wittgenstein?
Consciousness arises when there are two conflicting sensory inputs.