1x cranks like the senicx crankset have a chainline of ~49.7mm. This works for 142mm thru axle or 135mm qr but rim brake road bikes have 130mm qr. The chainline for those is usually 43.5mm. I have used a 104mm bcd spider on then used spacers on the chainring bolts to get the chainring further inwards. This might mess up the shifting due to the increased cross chaining.
the Senicx PR2or PR3 cranks have a 43,5mm chain line for road bikes. The crank used for the bike in the video is the GR2 (for gravel bikes) with a chain line of 49,7mm.
I confirm . The Vanyar is a superframe, light, responsive and absorbs the roughness of the road very well. Mounted in full mechanical Ultegra (rim brake), Hyper wheel
@@boscoboys Sorry but I am not equipped with equipment to make videos. You can read my review on Aliexpress Vanyar rim brake (I am the Frenchman who bought this frame in size 52). Be careful the steering tube is small on the Vanyar
@@lcooperdesign I haven't weighed it but it should be 7kg, or even less in Ultegra. The wheels are hyper in 50 (rim brake), old version with inner tube. They are indeed rigid wheels, aero, and which support very well the lateral winds. Disadvantages are noise from the hub (I put DT Swiss light grease on), braking isn't great when compared to my other Farsport wheels (DT 240). On the Hypers wheels, the braking surface is smooth while on the Farsports the surface is grooved. I use bLACKPRINCE.
I had a similar issue with the 1x senicx crank, but my issue, that was completely solved with a chainring. Also I've gotten so tired of that "reputable! Groupset“ mentality; it's a young brand of course there will be issues. Like the gravel groupset had the adjustable tension system (chain drop issue) , it wasn't strong enough so they sent me a new updated model that has a much stronger spring, now no chain drop, their customer support is far and away better than I've had with the big 3
"of course there will be issues". The last thing I want when being 50 miles away from home is "of course issues" with my groupset, just because I saved a few pennies.
Maybe it’s BB spacers fault? In my bike I had to swap spacers from recommended two on left side and one on right to the other way around so I could have “usable” chain line, but I use 1x8 so chain line is still silly as hell.
Trace Velo did a video on those carbon brakes. He found the same thing as you; braking performance isn't great, and he goes on to hypothesize why. They're also apparently a clone of the Ciamillo Lekki8 brakes.
CHECK THE HANGER TO SEE IF SHIFTING IS OFF. Also, move the levers up and torque just below max.. it won’t break. Adjust the spacers on the crank to fix chain line too. It’s likely 73mm she’ll chainline and not 68mm chainline
3:07 brilliant. The groupset will change everything. In our local race event, ex-national rider win the race by using 400usd frameset, lightweight rims and duraace di2. Maybe enough with winspace hyper.
I'm piecing together a somewhat light bike with an old Fuji Roubaix frame 1050g and SRAM Force 1x and Mavic carbon wheels. People say Aero is more beneficial but lightweight is just so fun and cool.
I hope SENSAH keep evolving the product and we end up with another decent option at mid tier around the 2300g mark for under 1000 monies (R7000 105 here is that). I don't think the masses would object to a cheaper-lighter groupset knowing it's not going to last long term stupendously well... just as long as it work consistently well enough.
I bought a Sensah 1x groupset for my gravel bike, finally gave up on it, and swapped it out for the Microshift Sword groupset. The Sensah was way too difficult to get working properly.
Considering the shifting suddendly being poor on the new bike: Maybe the attachment point for the derailleur on the frame isn't perfectly straight (similar effect to a bent derailleur hanger)? No idea if this is the case, just an idea. (Could probably be checked with a "derailleur bend-back-tool", no idea what its actually called, but just a device you put on the hanger and then bend it straight again...)
I rock a sensah empire 11 x 2. Not the pro version but it shifts like butter. Took a fair bit of dialing in on the indexing and took a week of use before it settled and the cables stretched out. Did you use brand new cables? That could be the issue! Looks like a fine build, either way. Maybe with some new brakes though...
My brakes work fine tho, yes you need to either buy thin brake pads or use old thinned ones , yes they're spongy, yes when you reverse the brake pads comes off if you're braking
Now, I’m sure the weather was not planned for a shake down ride, and it was pretty harsh test environment, for Jimmy on a new build. Very informative though! The group set should have been able to handle it, without causing mild to moderate understandable panic on occasions! Though I’m pretty light at 52kg I have to say, for rim brakes, Campagnolo, 2018 onwards calipers, levers with campagnolo blocks and AC3 brake track rims feel and work superbly well.
Hi , you should check DARKPADS (french brakes pads) they evacuate water (thanks to a hole into it ) and should buy some 105,Ultegra or Dura-ace Calipers :)
Just built one of these for myself - Falath and Aeropro Orome aero bars which can be clamped above the gripper line, I asked Elves directly and they confirmed it.
If I'm not mistaken the famous old saying is "safety second" so don't worry about the brakes and just fix the chainline. It'll be _fine_ (probably). 🤔🙃
@@Cade_Media knock-offs are not fake. They may have the same design but may differ in material used and under different brand name. The same with the ZTTO calipers you have that is a knock-off of Lekki8 carbon calipers.
Rim brakes in general don't work well in the rain. I did it before and the best you can do is lockup the wheel and just kinda slide the tires against the water until it finally stops. It's a very slow brake time
I want to build a bike like that but where i live there are some stiff climbs/descents that will kill you in an instance. Top of the line brakes and brake pads are mandatory. Madeira Island has a lot of +-14% parts and the tarmac on those are a bit harsh. Love cycling here but some parts are even dangerous descending with the bike in your hand and cleat shoes... 🤣🤣🤣 I am confused with rim brakes and disc brakes. Big guy+disc brakes+ half a mile 14% descent="Mamaaaaaa luv u!!!"
Check the derailleur hanger bolt on the mech, 1 of my 3 Sensah pros failed, couldn't get the gears and 11 tooth kept clicking, circlip wasn't fitting properly and wore the housing, loads of side to side movement.....one scrap Sensah rear derailleur!
Sure the carbon is thicker where the grip texture is? Would imagine it’s the same diameter and it’s simply the position of the grip texture, ie probably ok to position shifters higher up the bar.
Heyya, suggestion (though might not be the best one): try to get the knock-off ee brakes. Will definitely be heavier but for sure safer than those carbon brake calipers. It's on your video featuring Harry (with the Elves Falath Pro(?))
@@Cade_Media I have the Chinese ee copies. There were even little tags inside the box saying ”made in the USA”. What if they are coming out of the same factory and Cane Creek are just tripling the price? Pause for thought on ”fake”...
@@Cade_Media They're also not that good. Where they've cut corners to make manufacturing easier/cheaper it's compromised performance significantly to the point they're worse than the Tektro ones from 12+ years ago that were rebranded by all bike manufacturers as OEM.
Future challenge; a super carbon chinese lightweight fixie for hill climbs. I'm too nervous and broke (student and part time gardener) to risk this, but it hasn't stopped me from wasting precious research time procrastinating on aliexpress... Though the RideNow tubes have been a revelation, use latex on the 'best bike' but they really are just a 'gnats niggin' off latex for 'feel' on my fave fixed wheel steed. It's like when Datsun suddenly stopped making rust buckets in the 1970's to evolving into the European market as Nissan with good reliable cheap cars, though the 240Z still does it for me.
Hey Francis, what size is the chainring please? I'm about to buy one at the moment but I'm not sure if I should go for 42t or 44t. Road use mainly with 11-34 or 11-42 at the back. Thanks
Please put a spacer behind the cassette and try it as this is the only way I could get my Ribble SL CX one by to work for me, this is how it came from Ribble as well, I couldn't get the chain line as well so I put to 10 speed spacer back on and it worked, I'm no mechanic just trying to learn from watch video's like yours.
I think you should check the hub. Maybe the hub are your problem, i was happened to me when im change my wheels(my wheels included hub) then im replace hub and gear working perfect again.
More fettling required, or go with Pickle's solution Sram group set. Interesting that the saddle was reasonably comfortable considering how cheap it was.
One thing I've learned from Bike Fit Tuesdays, it's not always the amount of padding (or, maybe additionally, its pricing), but it's the shape and size that matters. Agree with Francis though that the next big question would be how long would it last
A great story, please continue to fettle and let's see this evolve into the best compromise of cheap Chinese blended with excellent knowns*. Chainline is everything ( as a fixed wheel rider as well as gears) for me and my hacks. I'm sure if chain stays allow, getting it to 42-3 mm would help, if it's as Kevin Klein says could be near 50mm. *A case of some 'known, knows' where with a mix of 'unknown, knowns' and possibly 'unknown, unknowns' (ie the gears) add to the fun of bike building, as Donald Rumsfeld would've seen it, if he was alive and rode a bike, rather than being near the big red button.
That shifting issue could be: Derailleur hanger isnt straight Play in the cassette or the rear wheel hub Disclaimer,: haven't watched the entire video yet
@@Cade_Media haven't moved my Di2 over to my falath frame yet. but the bars seems very flexible with many options. overall really impressed with elves ngl
@@leonschumann2361 yep big holes in the bars and big holes in the frame, so much so you can poke the cables through without guides and not really worry.
I'd be careful with that saddle, Francis. I don't know what research you found, but from the reviews I've read, riders as little as 60kg have broken that thing. China Cyling has a good video on chinese carbon saddles, and it's quite agreeable. He mentioned that small chinese brands are slightly more trusted than unbranded or fake branded saddles. Maybe the "Kennet" carbon saddle (89g) is safer, cheap, and worth looking into? Awesome video, as always. Thanks for sharing info on epic chinese parts.
Went did you choose 1 x anyways? Who wants to be limited to less gears when you don't have to. You don't save that much weight losing one great in the front and the front derailleur isn't that heavy, so why not use a double up front?
the best rim brakes i ever used are campagnolo chorus ( and record, super record ... same design ). Shimano is far behind ( even in direct mount rim brake )... i use both of them on different bikes
I have a rim brake bike running SRAM Red Hydro-R which are hydraulic rim brake calipers. The modulation and stopping power of these even in the wet easily match the performance of my disk brake bike. Wish they still manufactured these brakes as imho they provide incredible performance without the weight and complexity of disc brake bikes.
Maybe build a pair of aluminium lightweight wheels. If all the components can be found on ali xpress?? Being able to stop properly is overated, but can be a lifesaver.😉
enjoyed watching that, sorry you all had to suffer for my enjoyment...interesting pursuit of the non 'reputable' end of the market...interesting also because its become too expensive to test a veriety equipment to find the right fit..
@@Relevant_Irrelevance only pointing out they are available direct and not solely an AliExpress frame. I bought my Elves direct and very happy with it. The finish is as good if not better than a frame costing 4x as much.
@@Relevant_Irrelevance I too am interested to see how the build goes as Francis is one of the very few who’s letting the genie out of the bottle. Trace Velo and China Cycling are interesting channels to watch
Don't quote me on this, but I think AliExpress hold your payment so if something does happen and your order doesn't turn up then you can get a refund more easily.
I've been interested in getting the Vanyar for awhile, but their suggested size for my height (173cm) is a size 51. I'd say I'm usually a size 53-54 and I ride a 51 right now which feels way too small. Anyone know how tall Jimmy is?
Hey, wondering if you found an answer to your question ? I ordered a size 50 and i'm the exact same height as you (quite long legs for my height though), but I was thinking the opposite and maybe going for a 48 as I'd like a more agressive / aero position.
I note that Nic at Backyard Bicycles has managed to cleverly stay a _million miles_ away from this endeavor
1x cranks like the senicx crankset have a chainline of ~49.7mm. This works for 142mm thru axle or 135mm qr but rim brake road bikes have 130mm qr. The chainline for those is usually 43.5mm. I have used a 104mm bcd spider on then used spacers on the chainring bolts to get the chainring further inwards. This might mess up the shifting due to the increased cross chaining.
the Senicx PR2or PR3 cranks have a 43,5mm chain line for road bikes. The crank used for the bike in the video is the GR2 (for gravel bikes) with a chain line of 49,7mm.
I confirm . The Vanyar is a superframe, light, responsive and absorbs the roughness of the road very well. Mounted in full mechanical Ultegra (rim brake), Hyper wheel
Can you do a review video on it?
Can you detail the wheelset and let us know the complete bike weight please?
@@boscoboys Sorry but I am not equipped with equipment to make videos. You can read my review on Aliexpress Vanyar rim brake (I am the Frenchman who bought this frame in size 52). Be careful the steering tube is small on the Vanyar
@@lcooperdesign I haven't weighed it but it should be 7kg, or even less in Ultegra. The wheels are hyper in 50 (rim brake), old version with inner tube. They are indeed rigid wheels, aero, and which support very well the lateral winds. Disadvantages are noise from the hub (I put DT Swiss light grease on), braking isn't great when compared to my other Farsport wheels (DT 240). On the Hypers wheels, the braking surface is smooth while on the Farsports the surface is grooved. I use bLACKPRINCE.
Hard to find reviews of this Vanyar frame. Any views 7 months on?!
I had a similar issue with the 1x senicx crank, but my issue, that was completely solved with a chainring.
Also I've gotten so tired of that "reputable! Groupset“ mentality; it's a young brand of course there will be issues. Like the gravel groupset had the adjustable tension system (chain drop issue) , it wasn't strong enough so they sent me a new updated model that has a much stronger spring, now no chain drop, their customer support is far and away better than I've had with the big 3
I think that as well. Those new brands are making a favour to the general public, lowering the prices, given the absurdity of the "reputable brands".
"of course there will be issues". The last thing I want when being 50 miles away from home is "of course issues" with my groupset, just because I saved a few pennies.
Maybe it’s BB spacers fault? In my bike I had to swap spacers from recommended two on left side and one on right to the other way around so I could have “usable” chain line, but I use 1x8 so chain line is still silly as hell.
Trace Velo did a video on those carbon brakes. He found the same thing as you; braking performance isn't great, and he goes on to hypothesize why. They're also apparently a clone of the Ciamillo Lekki8 brakes.
Love the ending, "I just find everything hard Jimmy. I'm gonna retire soon", didn't expect it at all.😂😂😂
CHECK THE HANGER TO SEE IF SHIFTING IS OFF. Also, move the levers up and torque just below max.. it won’t break. Adjust the spacers on the crank to fix chain line too. It’s likely 73mm she’ll chainline and not 68mm chainline
3:07 brilliant. The groupset will change everything. In our local race event, ex-national rider win the race by using 400usd frameset, lightweight rims and duraace di2. Maybe enough with winspace hyper.
The rain looks as wild as it felt. 😂😂😂
You're a hero for trusting the brakes in the beginning 😅😅
I'm piecing together a somewhat light bike with an old Fuji Roubaix frame 1050g and SRAM Force 1x and Mavic carbon wheels. People say Aero is more beneficial but lightweight is just so fun and cool.
Funny how lightweight is now the bomb, marketing departments just messing people around new ways to spend money.
Suddenly very happy I skipped those brakes and went with 105 calipers on my open-mold Sensah build!
Sensible and much safer!
@@Cade_Media ... and more expensive. 😏
Just fix the horn.
I had a similar issue with Sensah, one thing that helped was checking the B screw - adjusting that to be around 4-5mm gap seemed to do the trick.
Ride Vlog perfection Francis 👏🏼👏🏼 loved this one. Looking forward to more content on the Ali bike
I hope SENSAH keep evolving the product and we end up with another decent option at mid tier around the 2300g mark for under 1000 monies (R7000 105 here is that). I don't think the masses would object to a cheaper-lighter groupset knowing it's not going to last long term stupendously well... just as long as it work consistently well enough.
Sensah empire di2 would be crazy
I bought a Sensah 1x groupset for my gravel bike, finally gave up on it, and swapped it out for the Microshift Sword groupset. The Sensah was way too difficult to get working properly.
Considering the shifting suddendly being poor on the new bike: Maybe the attachment point for the derailleur on the frame isn't perfectly straight (similar effect to a bent derailleur hanger)? No idea if this is the case, just an idea. (Could probably be checked with a "derailleur bend-back-tool", no idea what its actually called, but just a device you put on the hanger and then bend it straight again...)
Hanger alignment tool - straightened that in the build because it did indeed arrive bent
Brilliant to explore different options. A few adjustments,changes and will have a great bike.
I rock a sensah empire 11 x 2. Not the pro version but it shifts like butter. Took a fair bit of dialing in on the indexing and took a week of use before it settled and the cables stretched out. Did you use brand new cables? That could be the issue! Looks like a fine build, either way. Maybe with some new brakes though...
I use Sensah SRX Pro 1x11 and my experience was similar. Took a bit to get it dialled in, but now it shifts perfectly.
My brakes work fine tho, yes you need to either buy thin brake pads or use old thinned ones , yes they're spongy, yes when you reverse the brake pads comes off if you're braking
sounds absolutely fine 😬😬😬
lol
Now, I’m sure the weather was not planned for a shake down ride, and it was pretty harsh test environment, for Jimmy on a new build. Very informative though! The group set should have been able to handle it, without causing mild to moderate understandable panic on occasions! Though I’m pretty light at 52kg I have to say, for rim brakes, Campagnolo, 2018 onwards calipers, levers with campagnolo blocks and AC3 brake track rims feel and work superbly well.
All this time I thought Jimmy just sweat a shit load and those were salt stains, and now I'm realizing that's just the jersey's design 😂
Dressed in black.
No lights.
No mudguards.
Rain.
🤔
Hi , you should check DARKPADS (french brakes pads) they evacuate water (thanks to a hole into it ) and should buy some 105,Ultegra or Dura-ace Calipers :)
My Sensah was very susceptible to B screw adjustment and cable drag but now it's right it's brilliant. 👍
Just built one of these for myself - Falath and Aeropro Orome aero bars which can be clamped above the gripper line, I asked Elves directly and they confirmed it.
this is great to know, thanks Jake
If I'm not mistaken the famous old saying is "safety second" so don't worry about the brakes and just fix the chainline. It'll be _fine_ (probably). 🤔🙃
Very interesting. I'm planning on building a 4.6 kg bike for about 2200€. Also all parts from AliExpress. 👍🏽
You should have gone to that knock off EE brakes. Very good review and with compressionless cable housing.
Nah not using an fake stuff.
@@Cade_Media knock-offs are not fake. They may have the same design but may differ in material used and under different brand name. The same with the ZTTO calipers you have that is a knock-off of Lekki8 carbon calipers.
@@WashichawbachaW I get you, I thought you meant the ones that literally say EE on them, which were in a previous video on my friend Harry's bike
Rim brakes in general don't work well in the rain. I did it before and the best you can do is lockup the wheel and just kinda slide the tires against the water until it finally stops. It's a very slow brake time
go 2x and change the brake caliper and use stem-handlebar system.....
Carbon rim brakes are awful in the wet even with dedicated pads, so glad Jimmy mentioned it.
running cheap brakes on carbon rims in rain is extreme sports lmao
I want to build a bike like that but where i live there are some stiff climbs/descents that will kill you in an instance. Top of the line brakes and brake pads are mandatory. Madeira Island has a lot of +-14% parts and the tarmac on those are a bit harsh. Love cycling here but some parts are even dangerous descending with the bike in your hand and cleat shoes... 🤣🤣🤣 I am confused with rim brakes and disc brakes. Big guy+disc brakes+ half a mile 14% descent="Mamaaaaaa luv u!!!"
Check the derailleur hanger bolt on the mech, 1 of my 3 Sensah pros failed, couldn't get the gears and 11 tooth kept clicking, circlip wasn't fitting properly and wore the housing, loads of side to side movement.....one scrap Sensah rear derailleur!
I built AliExpress carbon bike one year ago. Best bike purchase ever. 7.7kg with hydro disc brakes and pedals attached.
What brakes did you get?
@@pierrex3226 I just bought SRAM stuff on sale
How heavy are you?
@@nobgross4113 Pretty heavy, just bellow 100kg. I bought cyclocross frame and mtb wheels. Everything is fine.
@@mixa3 thanks for replying 👍
Have you a link to the bike?
Sure the carbon is thicker where the grip texture is? Would imagine it’s the same diameter and it’s simply the position of the grip texture, ie probably ok to position shifters higher up the bar.
Aaaaaaahhhhh the nice England's weather... I have forgotten how nice it is every day.
been waiting for this impatiently
Can imagine that saddle would be pretty hell-ish with some less good bib shorts!
I'm betting the shifting issue is due to the integrated handlebar or sharp bent at the exit point to the shifter.
I have elves vanyar and it is unreal. Would 10/10 recommend the frame
Heyya, suggestion (though might not be the best one): try to get the knock-off ee brakes. Will definitely be heavier but for sure safer than those carbon brake calipers. It's on your video featuring Harry (with the Elves Falath Pro(?))
Perhaps, but I'm not comfortable buying fake stuff like that, not fair on ee.
@@Cade_Media Fair point. Next best option would be to get the legit ones or... something that's the lightest from Campy, Sram, or Shimano.
@@Cade_Media I have the Chinese ee copies. There were even little tags inside the box saying ”made in the USA”. What if they are coming out of the same factory and Cane Creek are just tripling the price? Pause for thought on ”fake”...
@@Cade_Media They're also not that good.
Where they've cut corners to make manufacturing easier/cheaper it's compromised performance significantly to the point they're worse than the Tektro ones from 12+ years ago that were rebranded by all bike manufacturers as OEM.
@@GrahamB29 Francis actually knows these calipers, he made a vid about it not too long ago, Abt his friend's bike
0:23 What is that the Bukkake jersey for god's sake? haha
Thanks for your work.) Is there video of building process tho?
Future challenge; a super carbon chinese lightweight fixie for hill climbs.
I'm too nervous and broke (student and part time gardener) to risk this, but it hasn't stopped me from wasting precious research time procrastinating on aliexpress...
Though the RideNow tubes have been a revelation, use latex on the 'best bike' but they really are just a 'gnats niggin' off latex for 'feel' on my fave fixed wheel steed. It's like when Datsun suddenly stopped making rust buckets in the 1970's to evolving into the European market as Nissan with good reliable cheap cars, though the 240Z still does it for me.
I've already ordered some parts for my single speed bike on AliExpress. So far I'm positively surprised. 👍🏽
Hey Francis, what size is the chainring please? I'm about to buy one at the moment but I'm not sure if I should go for 42t or 44t. Road use mainly with 11-34 or 11-42 at the back. Thanks
Please put a spacer behind the cassette and try it as this is the only way I could get my Ribble SL CX one by to work for me, this is how it came from Ribble as well, I couldn't get the chain line as well so I put to 10 speed spacer back on and it worked, I'm no mechanic just trying to learn from watch video's like yours.
Yellow Swiss stop blocks... Night n day difference 💦👌
Shouldve used the SRX Pro group instead for a 1x set up. That's more proven for a 1x set up instead of an Empire gruppo that's hacked for 1x
I think you should check the hub. Maybe the hub are your problem, i was happened to me when im change my wheels(my wheels included hub) then im replace hub and gear working perfect again.
“If that slips off whilst I’m out of the saddle, giving it beans…” he’ll be toast
what model is that endura rain jacket? I like the way it looks & it also appears to be functional in inclement weather
More fettling required, or go with Pickle's solution Sram group set. Interesting that the saddle was reasonably comfortable considering how cheap it was.
True. But how long will it last 👀
One thing I've learned from Bike Fit Tuesdays, it's not always the amount of padding (or, maybe additionally, its pricing), but it's the shape and size that matters. Agree with Francis though that the next big question would be how long would it last
@@Cade_Media Good point you wouldn't want that snapping mid ride into your unmentionables.
I got one of those £14 carbon saddles of ali express and its literally my favourite saddle. Its comfy and weighs about half a pube.
Derailleur hanger is off, or distance from upper jockey wheel to casette is too long
A great story, please continue to fettle and let's see this evolve into the best compromise of cheap Chinese blended with excellent knowns*.
Chainline is everything ( as a fixed wheel rider as well as gears) for me and my hacks.
I'm sure if chain stays allow, getting it to 42-3 mm would help, if it's as Kevin Klein says could be near 50mm.
*A case of some 'known, knows' where with a mix of 'unknown, knowns' and possibly 'unknown, unknowns' (ie the gears) add to the fun of bike building, as Donald Rumsfeld would've seen it, if he was alive and rode a bike, rather than being near the big red button.
whats with the upside down cross ozzy 🤘
Bike looks great but kinda scared for Jimmy…those brakes…yikes
What brakes? 🫤😆
@@Jimmidoesstuff to save more weight you could just take them off altogether & as Pickle said it could be a great _climbing_ bike (only!) 😉
How on earth did you get the elite drive wheels and the elves vanyar from AliExpress? I have never seen one or the other there?
I wonder if the cassette is Shimano or sram compatible? The Sensah is Sram. If you use a shimano cassette, you may have skipping issues
SRAM compatible, it even fits an XD freehub!
@@Cade_Media maybe just try your old heavy cassette to troubleshoot?
That shifting issue could be:
Derailleur hanger isnt straight
Play in the cassette or the rear wheel hub
Disclaimer,: haven't watched the entire video yet
it's not either of those!
Stop this 1x madness... enough! 😎 Does Jimmy have life insurance?
Yis
try swiss stop yelow pads they much better on wet
what about the cable routing?
it's pretty neat
@@Cade_Media haven't moved my Di2 over to my falath frame yet. but the bars seems very flexible with many options. overall really impressed with elves ngl
@@leonschumann2361 yep big holes in the bars and big holes in the frame, so much so you can poke the cables through without guides and not really worry.
Mad weather.
I have the same brake and are working perfectly. Obviusly not with that pad!!!
I'd be careful with that saddle, Francis. I don't know what research you found, but from the reviews I've read, riders as little as 60kg have broken that thing. China Cyling has a good video on chinese carbon saddles, and it's quite agreeable. He mentioned that small chinese brands are slightly more trusted than unbranded or fake branded saddles. Maybe the "Kennet" carbon saddle (89g) is safer, cheap, and worth looking into? Awesome video, as always. Thanks for sharing info on epic chinese parts.
Went did you choose 1 x anyways? Who wants to be limited to less gears when you don't have to. You don't save that much weight losing one great in the front and the front derailleur isn't that heavy, so why not use a double up front?
I guess it was because they were trying to make the lightest bike they could for the money
the best rim brakes i ever used are campagnolo chorus ( and record, super record ... same design ). Shimano is far behind ( even in direct mount rim brake )... i use both of them on different bikes
Totally agree, and can add SRAM red to that rim brake list. Difference becomes even more pronounced when combined with AC3 brake surface.
I have a rim brake bike running SRAM Red Hydro-R which are hydraulic rim brake calipers. The modulation and stopping power of these even in the wet easily match the performance of my disk brake bike.
Wish they still manufactured these brakes as imho they provide incredible performance without the weight and complexity of disc brake bikes.
if you get super short chianstays the angles are hella extreme
Maybe build a pair of aluminium lightweight wheels. If all the components can be found on ali xpress?? Being able to stop properly is overated, but can be a lifesaver.😉
I thought you would have bought the 'ee' brakes that Harry bought for his AliExpress bike build.
this is why I've never trusted a carbon wheel with a rim brake, disc is the best. But my favorite is the rim brake with alloy wheels.
Influencer risking his best friends life for youtubemoney. Nice video. Really curious how good the bike is gonna be in the end.
Holy fog! Did you guys passed through Silent Hill?
😂😂😂😂
@cade_media Did you ever do anything else with this bike?
Hey Francis, off-topic for the video, but have you tried friction shifting? Such as Gevenalle road shifters?
Not for a few years, I had friction shifters on my tt bike!
What sect wears the St Peters cross?
I reckon those "EE" brakes Harry uses on his bike would have worked on these
enjoyed watching that, sorry you all had to suffer for my enjoyment...interesting pursuit of the non 'reputable' end of the market...interesting also because its become too expensive to test a veriety equipment to find the right fit..
throw a DAG on the derailleur hanger. It isn't uncommon for that part to come out of true.
Very nice en fun video, really enjoyed it 👌🏻
Would be nice to see what the chainline issue looks like on the stand. There wasn't any footage of that in this video.
will try and get a shot when we fix it, but it's just really far out from the frame
Show us the chainline!
Are the brake pads compatible on carbon rims?
Yes
I swear it always rains in your videos lmao
Why would you wear black on a rainy/misty day ?
I still like the look of rim bikes, will die never owning a disc braked bike.
The moment I saw this, I clicked to watch it. I cant wait to see what happens with the ali express bike.
Not really AliExpress as it’s available directly from the manufacturer who have a good reputation
You know what Francis means. I’m using it similarly. No need to be pedantic, friend.
@@Relevant_Irrelevance only pointing out they are available direct and not solely an AliExpress frame. I bought my Elves direct and very happy with it. The finish is as good if not better than a frame costing 4x as much.
@@Relevant_Irrelevance I too am interested to see how the build goes as Francis is one of the very few who’s letting the genie out of the bottle. Trace Velo and China Cycling are interesting channels to watch
@@TheTrev53 Love Trace Velo's videos. He's made me want a Sensah.
I laughed my arse off when Francis said Jimmy’s bike, ‘Should feel SNAPPY’
Snap. Py. Not want you want to hear riding a cheap carbon frame.💥
Is the derailleur hanger straight? Many frames arrive new with bent hangers
It indeed arrived with a bent hanger but we straightened it.
The Deraileur Hanger might not be aligned
Elves bikes are cheaper direcly from their website, from what I've seen 🧐 any reason to buy them at Ali ?
Don't quote me on this, but I think AliExpress hold your payment so if something does happen and your order doesn't turn up then you can get a refund more easily.
@@Cade_Media good point !
I've been interested in getting the Vanyar for awhile, but their suggested size for my height (173cm) is a size 51. I'd say I'm usually a size 53-54 and I ride a 51 right now which feels way too small. Anyone know how tall Jimmy is?
Hey, wondering if you found an answer to your question ? I ordered a size 50 and i'm the exact same height as you (quite long legs for my height though), but I was thinking the opposite and maybe going for a 48 as I'd like a more agressive / aero position.
did you use carbon brake pads...?
you need SENSAH SRX PRO derailleur to run x1
That's a long cage derailleur which will allow you to run a bigger cassette, but you should be able to run a empire pro 1x without any issues.
Haha. Do you two never check a weather forecast before going on a ride. 🤷♂️😂😂
Why the 1x??? Going to a double would solve everything…
Wearing black in full weather. Far more stupid than buying off Alliexpress.
Bike tweaks I'm sure will follow up in a future video🤞, felt a bit sorry for you guys in those "moisture" 🌧 ridden downpours!
Oh man UK weather