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  • The best necromancer build in diablo 4 season 4 seems to be mages! A 120 has been cleared!
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  • @Goblin-Inc
    @Goblin-Inc  Місяць тому +55

    Update since recording: A 120 no elixir has been cleared by mages using a new tech, putting mages solidly ahead of golem. Video coming soon!

    • @nemesisrafa
      @nemesisrafa Місяць тому

      I need to see this updated build, I really like it. 😄

    • @Archangelmd
      @Archangelmd Місяць тому

      Ready to start my necro alt. Which of these builds, mages vs golem, would you say is easier to play? Does it take a big setup? Managing buffs? Etc.
      Thank you!

    • @droid5785
      @droid5785 Місяць тому +4

      Mages is less mechanically intensive than golem, simply based on the fact you have to target click your golem active ​@@Archangelmd

    • @mcarr416ix
      @mcarr416ix Місяць тому +1

      #magelife

    • @TheNichq
      @TheNichq Місяць тому +5

      I think the issue is that plus mage and plus golem affix are basically one in a billion to get, especially with other decent sets.

  • @zeke4493
    @zeke4493 Місяць тому +10

    The thing I like about golem over mages is the feeling of control (since you can "place" the golem aoe). In edge cases where I need to target a barricade mob around a corner this is incredibly handy

    • @jmarshall3150
      @jmarshall3150 Місяць тому

      I think this is the main reason to use golem. Control is so important

    • @mcarr416ix
      @mcarr416ix Місяць тому +6

      Not if your playing on console 😂

  • @bigdogang
    @bigdogang Місяць тому

    Wild vids gg!!!! Fr you deserve it been working hard on this channel

  • @Skulm
    @Skulm Місяць тому +8

    Great work! Very nice to see in depth cover of mages. Thumbs up.

    • @Goblin-Inc
      @Goblin-Inc  Місяць тому +3

      Thank you man! Mages are sick! Long time fan of your content

    • @Skulm
      @Skulm Місяць тому

      @@Goblin-Inc you’re too kind. I’m looking forward to try mages myself. Love your content!

  • @Stealth_Black_Sanji
    @Stealth_Black_Sanji Місяць тому +2

    I see a variety of classes and builds being able to push Pits 100-120s and that's good. Players not looking to race to push Pits 200 can play the build they enjoy the most. I'm sure the builds that will push to 200 will be more narrow.

  • @kogre1
    @kogre1 Місяць тому +3

    hey boss, yall done any theory crafting on the thorns necro yet? I have been toying around with the bone golem and his ae taunt and the goodies that come with it. Just a gee whiz is all =) thanks for all you do!

  • @truane71
    @truane71 Місяць тому +1

    I think the best takeaway is that you can feel free to play Necro either way and not feel nerfed, depending on your preference.

  • @rooyali3820
    @rooyali3820 Місяць тому +1

    Thanks for the build but I have a question can we change the helm with shako ?

  • @subzero308
    @subzero308 Місяць тому +5

    Or just be a true minion necro and use all the minions.

  • @rolandxcalibur
    @rolandxcalibur Місяць тому +1

    Is 2hand scythe always better to run vs 1hand and offhand for this summon necro?

  • @jonyu9333
    @jonyu9333 Місяць тому

    High screen shot numbers are usually only good with cheesy elixir bolt. Golem focuses all its damage on 1 monster (trash mob) and it usually dies and proc the cheesy elixir bolt multiplier. Thats why they are not in the leader board.

  • @Lancer78x
    @Lancer78x Місяць тому

    I've heard a lot of people including Rob talking about Shadow Mages Necro as being S tier. I personally like Golem a bit more after using Mages for while and the only reason I like golems is it feels slightly better being able to spam the golem cooldown to focus attacks, where the Shadow mages AI kind of just does what it wants to. That being said, both builds are insanely good and I do love the Mages. I'll be curious to see how it all shapes out in a week or so when we get a large enough sample size to actually see more data.

    • @08Sindri
      @08Sindri Місяць тому

      Dude's full of copium just because he posted his run very early, now golems are overtaking mages in the leaderboard.

  • @eriknorden1
    @eriknorden1 Місяць тому

    Been doing this build its alot of fun! Soo getting uber soon only 1spark to go from helltide.
    Should I get Tyrials might??

  • @Snoopy484
    @Snoopy484 Місяць тому +1

    Am I missing something or is the leaderboard referenced in the video not linked anywhere?

  • @xQTx
    @xQTx Місяць тому

    Is the build in your video the AOD Annihilator (End Game) build from your linked guide? Is this updatet?

  • @DoTuskO
    @DoTuskO Місяць тому

    @goblin-inc Awesome Job ! Wondering what build you would suggest using both Harlequins Crest and Tyreal's Might? Or do you think that would take away too much from the build to push the pit ?

    • @jmarshall3150
      @jmarshall3150 Місяць тому +2

      Harlequins is bad for minions since the damage comes from passives

  • @ieatcalamari4595
    @ieatcalamari4595 Місяць тому

    Only 9hrs in on necro and it was pretty much all w/ minions, but I’m determined now to make a strong no minion necro. Lol

  • @Alaska-nt3li
    @Alaska-nt3li Місяць тому

    You think you could theory crazy a build with only golem that would be pretty viable? Not to push high but good enough. Because the other minions are just to frustrating to play with lol.

  • @AleXelerate8
    @AleXelerate8 Місяць тому

    We need a test dummy that shows you the average dps number above the head, not just damage per screenshot.

  • @gokuby
    @gokuby Місяць тому +2

    Why do you have the "Offensive: Summoning damage" tempered on your weapon in the end game build?
    I thought it would only affect active skills like Army of the Dead & Golem active.

    • @user-ey4yz8uc5z
      @user-ey4yz8uc5z Місяць тому

      I am wondering this too

    • @malyman316
      @malyman316 Місяць тому

      SUMMONING DAMAGE INCREASE damage of all minions, but its rolls are lower, so if you wanna go all around with minions Summoning damage will increase daamge of golem and minions, while Mages dmg, warrior damage or golem damage will increase only those specific ones although they roll higher thats why people go all in on One minion Type

  • @iMarcism
    @iMarcism Місяць тому

    Always love playing with mages since day 1, it just feels right

  • @dragnir4eg
    @dragnir4eg Місяць тому

    Bro, I checked and applied your build. It's good. Few moments: why you focus in armor so much and how about Shadow glyph instead of last on for 10% dmg reduction?
    Plus I'm using Shadow aspect for Warriors. Shadow dmg qnd and stun instead blood mist cd

  • @bernardopovoa4045
    @bernardopovoa4045 Місяць тому

    Any variations using Shako? I have a 11/12

  • @Tyvier_Watercrest
    @Tyvier_Watercrest Місяць тому

    Can take out the uber and tormented bosses with a mage build? I enjoy your mage build and has been my go to!

  • @deltaquadrant5861
    @deltaquadrant5861 Місяць тому

    honestly people play what they want and enjoy I play a Barb thorn build and I'm having a blast with it.

  • @gr4692
    @gr4692 Місяць тому

    Not a a great test but i did 3-3 pit tier 50 with a gear only golem dmg and paragon, and one very similar with mages, and it was almost the same time... rly wanna see if a youtuber or someone can test it properly with exact numbers...

  • @TripleRez
    @TripleRez Місяць тому

    I’d love to make a build like this but I keep getting terrible gear, and when I do get good gear it never rolls the tempers I want at a higher roll.

  • @rickycanupsmashedbutwhole808
    @rickycanupsmashedbutwhole808 Місяць тому

    Thorns barb in bleed Barb have both beat these numbers out without holybolt elixir?

  • @stimie0188
    @stimie0188 Місяць тому

    would figure it be based on player skill...even a bad player wont be good even if using potions,etc

  • @ANDY_YTUBE
    @ANDY_YTUBE Місяць тому

    Where can i even find the leaderboard? Not shown on maxroll anywhere

  • @Elvgr
    @Elvgr Місяць тому

    Can Mendeln ring viable in this build? I've already Tyrael's Might

  • @bullgooseloony4258
    @bullgooseloony4258 Місяць тому

    How are you capping armor with this build???

  • @Ge_n_Ge
    @Ge_n_Ge Місяць тому +2

    Cant we combine mages with bonestorm to get tankiness and damage?

    • @sSOLDIERrr
      @sSOLDIERrr Місяць тому

      That's what I've been wondering. I figured I'll just wait until I reach level 100 and get all the super powerful gear that everybody has and see why they're not doing both.

  • @dubayousee
    @dubayousee Місяць тому

    the build says skill bar is army of the dead, but the explanation keeps talking about bone storm...

  • @kelmaikel8471
    @kelmaikel8471 Місяць тому

    I Love this build ,it's so strong

  • @pdballou
    @pdballou Місяць тому +7

    Steady dps always feels much smoother to play than large hits on a cool down, not sure why everyone doesn't feel this way.

    • @afb9999
      @afb9999 Місяць тому

      Golem damage depends on a lot of stuff to happen at the exact same time

  • @jaybee3182
    @jaybee3182 Місяць тому

    How are mages against tormented bosses?

  • @dklegend1152
    @dklegend1152 Місяць тому

    Would Shako work at all with mages? Or really just need tyraels might?

  • @gweklipz7993
    @gweklipz7993 Місяць тому

    Could bone minion be a good end game build? I really like it but I don't if I would be able to push high pit

    • @droid5785
      @droid5785 Місяць тому

      I'm sure you'd be able to do pit 61 for neatiron, but above that would depend on your gear.
      Full set of triple greater affix gear, masterworked to 12/12, I'm sure bone minions would get to pit 100.
      But it does seem much worse overall since the mages will just kill themselves

    • @lorzkotzros
      @lorzkotzros Місяць тому

      So why is it possible to push to Tier 120 with minions​@@droid5785

    • @gweklipz7993
      @gweklipz7993 Місяць тому

      @droid5785 so if you could find a way to increases the survivability of the mages it should be really good?

  • @ZhighZero
    @ZhighZero Місяць тому

    For goblin's build for bone storm, two hand sy or sword?

    • @rrogers2187
      @rrogers2187 Місяць тому

      If you have a godly 2H sword you can use it, but the Scythe has a bit higher base damage

  • @bilbli2
    @bilbli2 Місяць тому

    hi am i the only one who cant connect to the build link?

  • @brunoccs
    @brunoccs Місяць тому

    Build link is wrong

  • @DummyThinksThoughts
    @DummyThinksThoughts Місяць тому +12

    i don't think golem one shot builds are "cheesy" they are just different right ? just because it isn't your build or what you are playing .. doesn't make it cheesy. the only thing cheesy is the holy bolt elixir . i mean congrats for being first or second on something and offering something different but that doesn't make other builds or other things people created "cheesy"

    • @subzero308
      @subzero308 Місяць тому +2

      Yea i agree hate wen someone calls 1 build cheesy just because its not the build they use.

    • @ANDY_YTUBE
      @ANDY_YTUBE Місяць тому

      The oneshot golem literally uses holy bolt of elixir, and abusing a bug that makes minions doubledip with the elixir, causing the oneshots. That's the cheesy part, not the golem itself.

    • @ANDY_YTUBE
      @ANDY_YTUBE Місяць тому +3

      And if youre referring to the non-holy bolt, no, its not cheesy.

    • @Malam_13
      @Malam_13 Місяць тому +1

      Cheesy is the way they create builds for UA-cam. Not functional, just a big boom every 12 seconds, that is not optimal in practice, but looks good.

    • @DummyThinksThoughts
      @DummyThinksThoughts Місяць тому +1

      @@Malam_13 they are definitely functional lol the golem big bonk builds does pretty much all the content except for the deepest pits .. so what are you even talking about

  • @keiscecs8868
    @keiscecs8868 Місяць тому

    Why not both since being a necromancer require both of them to feel right

  • @MasterJiraiyaGamin
    @MasterJiraiyaGamin Місяць тому

    Can anyone show me a build consistantly do 70-100 tier pits with shako as necro i dont have the time to build build build and as the only uber unique i have gotten i want to encorperate it better then what i can with minion builds golem builds maybe no monions is the pbvious choice.for.me.but idk

  • @kaypee7062
    @kaypee7062 Місяць тому

    LETS GOO DUDE

  • @Decide-ru2ud
    @Decide-ru2ud Місяць тому

    The build on mobillytics doesnt even have armor cap

  • @Themanvrg
    @Themanvrg Місяць тому +2

    bro anyone using holy bolts is kicked out nobody takes your build serious if u use that

    • @sumnersmash7485
      @sumnersmash7485 Місяць тому +1

      Well good thing he isn’t using the elixir. 👍🏼

    • @tunnfisk
      @tunnfisk Місяць тому

      He's using Tyriel's Might, which spawns the elixir bolts whenever you a spell. This goes for the mages as well. Most high-end meta builds use it.

  • @ryan_gaming_hub
    @ryan_gaming_hub Місяць тому +2

    Not only damage per screenshot, Golem has better scaling from paragon nodes and glyphs allowing for very high scaling and can deal with all content super fast. With the changes of uber bosses skele mages will take much much longer to kill an uber boss resulting in some sort of problem for the player, they might die to some bullshit boss mechanic. so it's fitting that the build which one shots is always better. It's same for every ARPG

    • @Goblin-Inc
      @Goblin-Inc  Місяць тому +1

      Explain how Mages clear 120 and golem 116

    • @ryan_gaming_hub
      @ryan_gaming_hub Місяць тому +1

      @@Goblin-Inc umm probably nobody has attempted higher pit yet with golems maybe ? You know it's just one week into season. Not everyone is a sweat lord. It's good to see variations my guy and I wanna see mages shine too. Unfortunately the scope is just a tid bid low.

    • @scottm8433
      @scottm8433 Місяць тому +1

      ​@@Goblin-Inc Golem has now cleared up to 124.

    • @IxAmxOlek
      @IxAmxOlek Місяць тому +2

      @@Goblin-Inc invalid argument brother. Golem build cleared 125 according to leaderboards but you probably saw it already.

  • @mtp1200
    @mtp1200 Місяць тому +1

    Where is the leaderboard?

    • @Goblin-Inc
      @Goblin-Inc  Місяць тому +1

      maxroll.gg/d4/events/s4-pit-ladder

  • @alhamour_1027
    @alhamour_1027 Місяць тому +1

    Bro I’m waiting for you to make bone spear build

    • @t-train6723
      @t-train6723 Місяць тому

      It's what i'm waiting for as well.

    • @alhamour_1027
      @alhamour_1027 Місяць тому

      @@t-train6723 really man I stop playing necro I don’t feel comfortable with minions and golem really

    • @t-train6723
      @t-train6723 Місяць тому

      @@alhamour_1027 the minion build was fun but to use it endlessly is very boring. There's very little interaction whatsoever. I'm using a minion bone spear build right now from moba uploaded by Ruse who is a beast necro but the damage is very noticeable.

    • @worgmaniashenanigans2702
      @worgmaniashenanigans2702 Місяць тому

      Bonespear was the Meta for Release + 3 Seasons after that and u still wanna play that :'D thats crazy bro

    • @alhamour_1027
      @alhamour_1027 Місяць тому

      @@worgmaniashenanigans2702 do you know bone spear make damage more than minions and golem someone upload the video the damage was insane in one shot duriel level 200 the video from @P4wynhof

  • @Gallosh
    @Gallosh Місяць тому

    Man, I am kind of new and I have a question. If mages are so strong why aren't you using the "mages" glyph? It boosts skeletal mages damage 140%

  • @Raptor-Jesus
    @Raptor-Jesus Місяць тому

    Interesting.

  • @brunoccs
    @brunoccs Місяць тому

    Nuclear Bone Spean can't even do pit 60

  • @brain_segfault
    @brain_segfault Місяць тому

    Giving the bosses are the hardest part, doesn't that make golem the better choice?

  • @magnaterra86
    @magnaterra86 Місяць тому

    Hell yeah... mages all the way!

  • @stealingclay
    @stealingclay Місяць тому

    This game has everyone dumbed down. Asked friends about their builds and I was told that essentially they don't know how it works and they just follow guides

  • @AleXelerate8
    @AleXelerate8 Місяць тому

    Thank you for giving them a name. These damage per screenshot andys are annoying and dont understand the concept of D.P.S.

  • @yarikh
    @yarikh Місяць тому

    seetod was right

  • @xGR1MxREAPERx
    @xGR1MxREAPERx Місяць тому +3

    Where is this new build? Man this is how people lose interest and move on to other creators and never return. You can’t say “there is a new better buikd and I’ll have a build up very soon” and then 5 days later your posting druid builds.. I’m out! Same
    As every one else has.

  • @jakebaur2148
    @jakebaur2148 Місяць тому

    Where is bone storm build ?

    • @jakebaur2148
      @jakebaur2148 Місяць тому

      Ah, under the BS mega tank tab. Lol..
      Thanks Goblin

  • @_Travey
    @_Travey Місяць тому

    Minion Necro was boring before the buff and now faceroll boring after 😂 always my least fav build. 🧙‍♀️ 🧙‍♂️ 🧙

  • @Comalv
    @Comalv Місяць тому +2

    Noone is talking about mages because: 1) you can control Golem AI with activation skill, you can't control other minions as easily, 2) Most mages planners I see require very specific + "ranks of xxx" which are bothersome to get and don't adapt well to other builds while golem only needs the roll on chest (and amulet, but that's the same exact roll as if you were playing mages).
    It's a lot more effort in gear selection for less overall control while piloting and similar results. Definitely an option if you happen to find the correct pieces, otherwise not worth it for me,

  • @robertwelch1443
    @robertwelch1443 Місяць тому

    Sheesh.. you’re a monster!! 🔥
    You happen to know of a build I can do that will speed farm pits for the master working while being able to carry my girlfriend? I don’t need high level dungeons.. just materials per hour 😎

    • @Goblin-Inc
      @Goblin-Inc  Місяць тому

      Minions would be very good for that

    • @robertwelch1443
      @robertwelch1443 Місяць тому

      @@Goblin-Inc I’ll go with the BS mega tank!! I’ll start collecting items now.. work towards that Under Unique Chest 🙏

  • @giri3224
    @giri3224 Місяць тому +1

    D4 is starting to freak me out. 1000 streamers hyping 1000 builds every day.
    Gaming is so ridiculous nowadays.
    I have no idea what to do anymore and start to lose all fun.
    Guess i quit for some weeks until the dick comparisons are over and we just have a decent build that is fun.
    Who the hell cares for Nr.1 stuff? Right, streamers and guys that live in moms basement.
    sigh I am getting old.

    • @DayW4lker
      @DayW4lker Місяць тому +1

      Spot on 👍

    • @IxAmxOlek
      @IxAmxOlek Місяць тому +1

      Streamers hype up stuff because normal gameplay doesn't entertain and thus makes no money. Watch less and play more. It's solely a "you problem".

    • @giri3224
      @giri3224 Місяць тому

      @@IxAmxOlek Streamers hype up stuff, cause they wanna make money. Like working sucks, don't we all just wanna play video games and not grow up? 2024 you can do this.
      I have been gaming for 35 years now and you are right, I should just play more by myself and not give a fuck anymore. Thank you.

    • @IxAmxOlek
      @IxAmxOlek Місяць тому +1

      @@giri3224 I'm right there with you. Back in the day I also wanted to play at high levels. Today I do not care anymore. Having fun is my priority now. Build and play the way you like. Enjoy your time man.

  • @donewithprecision785
    @donewithprecision785 Місяць тому

    “Damage per screenshot” popularized by insecure Genshin players. Dots are usually more consistent, but little-man complex energy always gets clicks.
    Edit: Golem is WAAAAY tankier and more chill for higher runs though, I see why it’s played.

  • @CEOofTunneling
    @CEOofTunneling Місяць тому

    Wastes so much good gear on your Mages.....
    Switched to Golem-so much better

  • @AlexTeo
    @AlexTeo Місяць тому

    builds without using blood mist are just simply looking for that 1 single perfect run for them to upload, its far less consistent of actually wanting to clear the pit

  • @dongenesis5891
    @dongenesis5891 Місяць тому +1

    who cares which is better, let people enjoy what they want.

  • @trip9755
    @trip9755 Місяць тому

    Who cares because if you doing 130 you will be using elixirs bro

  • @riktorGaming
    @riktorGaming Місяць тому

    Why is nobody covering mages? Because in ARPGs and specially in this game, once something becomes popular people seem to dismiss everything else, without even testing. I knew golem had that wow factor of doing insane damage per hit but on a non-cd based scenario where damage is sustained Mages would win, as they have been doing ever since the game was launched.

  • @xGR1MxREAPERx
    @xGR1MxREAPERx Місяць тому

    WHERE IS THIS UPDATRD BEST BUIKD YOU SAID WAS GONNA BE POSTED SOON? Lol.. come on man.. your builds are All over the place. You say one thing but the links are not the builds your running. Stuff is different yet no new build is updated yet? You gotta be quick or people will just watch other creators and use their builds.

  • @adaaontaliesin5215
    @adaaontaliesin5215 Місяць тому

    No one can tell what build you are actually promoting because your guides are so incomplete and riddled with errors, and you are now getting lapped by Golem builds anyway. So...

  • @grimcitizenxx5633
    @grimcitizenxx5633 Місяць тому

    You know what world be good?.....if showcasing a build, stop using the f*king holy bolt pot in the footage. Everyone trying to convince everyone else their build is the best build to be followed uses the pot LOL

    • @Goblin-Inc
      @Goblin-Inc  Місяць тому +7

      Youre seeing tyreals might, this is no holy bolt

    • @sumnersmash7485
      @sumnersmash7485 Місяць тому +2

      You know what would be good? If you actually watched the video. 👍🏼