Asking A 76 Year Old Shipping Billionaire If It Was Worth It

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  • @Moodboardxyz
    @Moodboardxyz Рік тому +3765

    this is this kind of interview of a genuine person who just sits there with no intention of promoting themselves, their new book, their online course or whatever. Just a man telling his story... no pitch, no marketing storytelling, no "personal branding"...
    Thank you.

    • @rkalla
      @rkalla Рік тому +61

      100% right - they aren't trying to SELL you anything which everyone else online is.

    • @Moodboardxyz
      @Moodboardxyz Рік тому

      absolutely. And it feels so refreshing @@rkalla

    • @louduncans3867
      @louduncans3867 Рік тому +26

      Thank you for recognizing that and putting it out to Michael it’s going to make him so much better in his interviews and make his channel number one

    • @Moodboardxyz
      @Moodboardxyz Рік тому

      Of course :) Are you the editor or part of his team? @@louduncans3867

    • @stoychev_enterprises524
      @stoychev_enterprises524 Рік тому +5

      Amen!!!!

  • @surlyman7970
    @surlyman7970 10 місяців тому +41

    When I was a young man, my best friend had attended a funeral of a very wealthy family friend who had much family drama surrounding his death. After the funeral, he said to me: “Wealthy people don’t suffer any less - they just get to do it in nicer clothes”
    Lesson learned. Much thanks to your guest for sharing his pain.

    • @lindanorris2455
      @lindanorris2455 29 днів тому +1

      once again, aw poor, poor guy so sorry for thembeing soooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo rich and having everything and dying. money doe snot rpevent death when will they learn?

    • @Vkpz
      @Vkpz 21 день тому

      Would you rather cry in the cold hard streets or in a nice mansion? There's a difference, not the same

  • @user-rs1fj1is8c
    @user-rs1fj1is8c 5 місяців тому +190

    Out of the gate: “I had a passion. Most people have a lust, but they don’t have a dream”. So much insight in just a few words.

  • @InPennyStock
    @InPennyStock Рік тому +961

    Shout out to Noah for letting him talk and not interrupting him during the deep moments

    • @alanaalsop2296
      @alanaalsop2296 Рік тому +17

      Beautiful interview! I just found this channel and I love it.

    • @duke5886
      @duke5886 Рік тому +21

      That's exactly what I thought. An interviewer who understands it's not about them. Just sat there and let the guy talk. Few and far between.

    • @canadude6401
      @canadude6401 Рік тому +3

      absolutely! I can learn a lot about "listening" to others (not just hearing) from this video. Noah didn't even look away from Michael when things got deep. Watch 15:46

    • @drtrishmd
      @drtrishmd 4 місяці тому

      I see what Michael meant about his heart becoming bigger; deep pain does carve out space in your heart, that you can fill, with empathy, compassion, understanding and kindness. The filling up however , starts when you stop fighting the hurt and trying to heal the wound with scars , of resentment and anger. Hard things teach you stuff while they are hurting you. I’m still trying to figure out the lessons from having my oldest son being in poor mental health for almost half his life so far. I am inspired to keep holding up, as you have done, thank you for your wisdom

    • @KingSeven007
      @KingSeven007 4 місяці тому

      That’s right! Good job!

  • @samferriere5730
    @samferriere5730 Рік тому +1286

    The best part of this interview was when he said that that grief enlarges your heart and makes you more aware of suffering. Beautiful interview and a great man. Thank you

    • @ElliottNest41
      @ElliottNest41 Рік тому +23

      I agree, it’s a tremendous insight and one that I’m going to remember.

    • @MrJens-fu5tv
      @MrJens-fu5tv Рік тому +8

      Successful trading is all about knowledge, experience and discipline, and you can achieve these virtues from anywhere with access to the markets. You can go anywhere and do anything you want, and still bring home money. What's better than going on vacation AND making money?

    • @tonyflyer8940
      @tonyflyer8940 Рік тому +2

      This is the problem! Most times people with little or no knowledge of the market try investing by themselves. It once happened to me, then I learned my lesson and contacted a US-based finance consultant by name Eleanor Johnston Sorensen and everything changed. In in the first quarter of this year i made $370k and counting.

    • @woodfreewoman6845
      @woodfreewoman6845 Рік тому +4

      first step to successful investing is figuring out your goals and risk tolerance either on your own or with the help of a financial professional but is very advisable you make use of a professional like I did. If you get the facts about saving and investing and follow through with an intelligent plan, you should be able to gain financial security over the years and enjoy the benefits of managing your money

    • @lindaneisrael2996
      @lindaneisrael2996 Рік тому

      I am surprised that this name is being mentioned here, I stumbled upon one of her clients testimonies on CNBC news last week

  • @hiltihimself
    @hiltihimself 9 місяців тому +165

    This man gets accidentally famous because of our attraction to wealth and then gives us a lesson on it. And this without rubbing it in our faces - got to respect that. Thanks.

  • @kwameeyiah
    @kwameeyiah Рік тому +1960

    This wasn't an interview, this was therapy.

    • @tc6070
      @tc6070 Рік тому +48

      ya so much wisdom, i like the plastic band analogy, some days we can take risks but then come back in again to normal and also to do it, a lot of the fear is in our heads, i am new to driving and i decided to travel in the big city today with loads of lanes and highways and motorways, i feared for days about todays trip, but i did it and God saw me through, All Glory to Him.

    • @diamondlife6052
      @diamondlife6052 Рік тому +35

      He needed this more than we did.

    • @sisi_zzz
      @sisi_zzz Рік тому +35

      A deeply moving and impactful interview. Michael is an absolute treasure to this world.

    • @layersoftheonion8168
      @layersoftheonion8168 Рік тому +3

      💯

    • @gickygackers
      @gickygackers Рік тому +10

      Everything that is good is indistinguishable from therapy

  • @Twix999S
    @Twix999S Рік тому +3880

    Noah, outstanding that you let Michael speak and not jump in when he is silent, pondering and staying in his emotions. Many thumbs up 👍

    • @josemora7288
      @josemora7288 Рік тому +85

      In all videos you can note that Noah it's old school when respecting older people, he just respect them highly. I believe he has been very touched with this interview

    • @NEUTRALDROP
      @NEUTRALDROP Рік тому +50

      Phenomenal intuition as an interviewer

    • @danarobinson6156
      @danarobinson6156 Рік тому +9

      Funny thing is I'm about 30-40 minutes away from Narragansett, MA. Went there is summer to Narragansett beach.

    • @panatha4life
      @panatha4life Рік тому +36

      I noticed that too and it was incredible…I wanted to hear this man’s thoughts. It was coming from his heart. What a moving movement and he allowed for it with his silence. Wow.

    • @Dream-bebe
      @Dream-bebe Рік тому +37

      “….We don’t deal the cards 🃏 in life … we have to play them….”

  • @kylewynja3031
    @kylewynja3031 10 місяців тому +97

    As an entrepreneur and a father who has lost a son I both relate to this gentleman and admire him. Likely because I find community in him. I find great truth in his words.

    • @emgregory528
      @emgregory528 3 місяці тому

      My condolences 🙏

    • @lindanorris2455
      @lindanorris2455 29 днів тому

      lots of fathers lose sons look at all the fathers who sent thier children to uvaldi and sandy brook school systems who lost thieer children through crazy shooetrs. there is a tragedy!

  • @Mugithi254
    @Mugithi254 Рік тому +1465

    "if you don't have an understanding wife , it's better not to have a wife"
    Wise Man

    • @pomskylifenova7344
      @pomskylifenova7344 Рік тому +24

      Happy wife happy life….😂

    • @neisanland2503
      @neisanland2503 Рік тому

      @@pomskylifenova7344 not anymore.

    • @andresmattos7541
      @andresmattos7541 Рік тому +35

      IF YOU NEVER HAD A WIFE YOU ARE A WISE MAN.

    • @zeus12393
      @zeus12393 Рік тому +23

      No. Better wife better life!

    • @purplegirl8036
      @purplegirl8036 Рік тому +7

      Same with a husband. No husband no kids but If I die that would suck 😂

  • @NEILSERENE
    @NEILSERENE Рік тому +563

    Im in the tanker industry About 20 years ago a company i worked for chartered out one of Michael's vessels - i was tasked with managing it. The vessel was amazing and so well looked after - my boss at the time told me these guys operate amazing vessels - so nice to watch this. Bravo

    • @cryptoslacker-464
      @cryptoslacker-464 Рік тому +11

      That's interesting facts . One of his strengths Was knowing his business. Thus evidence he ran that business well ❤

    • @Snp2024
      @Snp2024 Рік тому +13

      Which is very very good bcz a well maintained ship can save crew lives. My friend used to work in big ships also (cargo) he told me how ship maintenance was basically just above passing garde . It was depressing grimmy ship . And god forgive if it ever had to face sea storm .

    • @theresachung703
      @theresachung703 Рік тому +16

      Thanks for letting us know. Now we know that he walks the walk

    • @NEILSERENE
      @NEILSERENE Рік тому +16

      @@Snp2024 the vessels were ex-Chevron owned and essentially over-specced but as such well built ( in Japan) - he purchased them 2nd hand and continued to maintain to a high spec.

    • @SpectrumOfChange
      @SpectrumOfChange Рік тому +7

      Awesome to have his approach confirmed, thanks for sharing.

  • @garethedwards5436
    @garethedwards5436 Рік тому +212

    One of the most humble people I've ever listened to, despite all of the money... we need more billionaires like this absolute gentleman.

  • @larrylamb3480
    @larrylamb3480 Рік тому +437

    This billionaire has suffered great pain in his life ! You can see his compassion for others suffering ! He's a good man !

    • @calisongbird
      @calisongbird Рік тому +28

      @@Jazz-fg2dm This gentleman talks about the “money culture” and greed being out of control - and the interviewer runs a money channel all about how to get rich. I find this a fascinating irony.

    • @johnsigma7710
      @johnsigma7710 Рік тому

      @@rafaelw8115 You are right, having your youth and vitality is priceless. Most people don't appreciate the value of it until they get old and would give up every last dime they have to get it back.

    • @calisongbird
      @calisongbird Рік тому +8

      @@rafaelw8115 well of course he’s not happy. He lost his beloved son tragically and violently. I don’t think “body shape” is his top priority. Sounds like you need to re-think your own priorities. Did you even watch the interview??? This man is WELL aware of mortality. Get a clue.

    • @ElvinaOgil
      @ElvinaOgil Рік тому

      you sound miserable @@rafaelw8115

    • @tdyrkacz
      @tdyrkacz Рік тому +1

      @@rafaelw8115 Some of what you ask is in the interview. If you want those answers just watch it... especially before commenting and assuming you know hot happy he would be. SMH

  • @pjballa91
    @pjballa91 Рік тому +1138

    Can you bring this guy back for more? He’s a fountain of wisdom

    • @thearmy88ify
      @thearmy88ify Рік тому

      Didn't you hear?? Everything he has is because of his inherent white privilege.

    • @normansindana4366
      @normansindana4366 Рік тому +48

      Absolutely 💯 and he is so Sober Minded and it's serene and a breath of fresh air. Loved it when he emphasized being in a majority of one and happy 🎉🎉🎉

    • @btkindonesia137
      @btkindonesia137 Рік тому +23

      @@normansindana4366 totally at peace within himself......if more of us could be the same.

    • @Wasserkaktus
      @Wasserkaktus Рік тому +28

      A whole lot of elderly are: It's a tragedy of modern society that we no often longer seem to appreciate the substantial life experience of the elderly and instead often see it as a liability, given how fast life/societal advancement now moves.
      In pretty much all pre-modern societies, people like this man would be greatly respected BECAUSE of all that experience.

    • @Prin_Cess_007
      @Prin_Cess_007 Рік тому +16

      @@Wasserkaktus exactly. speaks to the gen that came up with the “ok boomer” insult. Other societies/times past respect elders and values their wisdom and life experiences. Our society mocks them and their intelligence for not knowing with instagram is, like that is actual wisdom. They are instantly idiots and to be ignored, because they’ve lived on this planet the longest . Sad state we are in.

  • @fluxfaze
    @fluxfaze Рік тому +219

    I waited until I was 50 to start my own business. My only regret is waiting until I was 50.

    • @antonioromas3124
      @antonioromas3124 9 місяців тому +17

      I'm going trough that too. I'm 50 new entrepreneur. I whish you the best of all.

    • @kuret2205
      @kuret2205 7 місяців тому

      @@antonioromas3124 Im 20 just starting, i whish both the best of all!

    • @MrBatteryChanger1
      @MrBatteryChanger1 5 місяців тому +9

      You just weren't ready until now

    • @Documentary24
      @Documentary24 5 місяців тому +2

      what would you have done different?

    • @r.s6399
      @r.s6399 5 місяців тому +10

      I had the same fear at 26, then started a business, and years later I only regret not doing it earlier 😂

  • @Silvermoonscorpion
    @Silvermoonscorpion Рік тому +289

    The fact that he understood his sons death as a painful gift... ❤... That he understands everything in life is a lesson and instead of falling into deep dispair and staying there he grew and went on to help others is impressive.
    Takes strength and tenacity.

  • @JuanMaldonado-ik8lg
    @JuanMaldonado-ik8lg Рік тому +606

    Thats a real man, a gentleman and a great human being. These are the people that made the USA a power house.

    • @saulstearns7726
      @saulstearns7726 Рік тому +28

      They dont make men these days anymore. : (

    • @glutiusmaximus4006
      @glutiusmaximus4006 Рік тому +22

      His mindset is golden. I would trade him for our current president in a heart beat.

    • @mementomori29231
      @mementomori29231 Рік тому +11

      A truly great man. Better than most people and selfish politicians these days.

    • @nelsonc6173
      @nelsonc6173 Рік тому

      @@mementomori29231 And industrialists too who are basically sociopaths.

    • @nelsonc6173
      @nelsonc6173 Рік тому +3

      @@glutiusmaximus4006 You mean the CHOSEN ONE?

  • @Dghnufdsgji123
    @Dghnufdsgji123 7 місяців тому +82

    Dear Michael, if you ever see this message, I just want to tell you, we need more people like you in this world, sir! All the respect and love.

    • @univera1111
      @univera1111 5 місяців тому

      He should have more kids honestly.

  • @Guitargate
    @Guitargate Рік тому +292

    “People that say they never had a chance never took a chance.” That’s a line right there. This whole thing was amazingly moving. I did not expect this today. Great job my friend. Thanks for doing this work

    • @gharm9129
      @gharm9129 Рік тому +20

      Yeah bs right there, he worked in finance and wall street prior. Rich kid with connections get's richer is more like it.

    • @bonchidude
      @bonchidude Рік тому

      10000000000000% Does he want to trade places with us? I thought so. @@gharm9129

    • @seriouscat2231
      @seriouscat2231 Рік тому +4

      @@jghawk100, that's an incredible idea.

    • @seriouscat2231
      @seriouscat2231 Рік тому +1

      This resonated with me. Also when he said that people have lust but no dreams. Lust is 'luxuria' in Latin. People desire to experience luxury but not to really try out things. Probably because they are discouraged by something. Like I've always been.

    • @kristinb5121
      @kristinb5121 Рік тому +1

      Oysters and Pearls - Jimmy Buffett … this man is a pearl, although he may not see himself that way.

  • @ramonmgomez
    @ramonmgomez Рік тому +403

    Wow. "We don't deal the cards in life, we have to play them". What an excellent, authentic interview. That was REAL. Thanks, Noah and Michael.

    • @lrhoneyghan9203
      @lrhoneyghan9203 Рік тому +1

      noah, the best one so far...

    • @j.a_crypt0z
      @j.a_crypt0z Рік тому

      Read this just as he said it. a damn good one.

    • @theboyisnotright6312
      @theboyisnotright6312 Рік тому +7

      Well I'm sure he was dealt a full house in life. If your a billionaire, you screwed plenty of people over. Karma always has the last say.

    • @Gumbocinno
      @Gumbocinno Рік тому

      "You play the cards you're dealt" is a pretty common saying. He said the same thing a different way.

    • @theboyisnotright6312
      @theboyisnotright6312 Рік тому

      @@11235but and you do? I've been on the wrong end of plenty of downsizing. All guys like that do is squeeze the people that do the work. Just parasites, billionaires add no value to the world, like an intestinal worm.😡

  • @luismonroyRealtor
    @luismonroyRealtor Рік тому +52

    “The only thing worse than the way that we felt, would be if we didn’t feel that way…” wow…. I was blown away by this gem… this man been through it. Much respect to this man for continuing to move forward

    • @raulbancroft2552
      @raulbancroft2552 4 місяці тому +1

      Same when I heard him say that I literally paused it and went wow damn.

  • @peterrusich8387
    @peterrusich8387 Рік тому +480

    He represents what America used to represent. Hard work, family, successful business....... and that's just the start of the list. Great on him.

    • @slimelove3493
      @slimelove3493 Рік тому +16

      Totally agree. Really makes you long for a time when you didn’t live in such a commercial-success driven culture, but just a culture where you want a decent life and to make a name for yourself in whatever it is you want to do. Hard work, family, successful business. And he speaks so simply and elegantly about really painful complicated parts of life…

    • @kabysummit5801
      @kabysummit5801 Рік тому +18

      Indeed. However, he did work on wall street which was his way in that the majority of us don't have that avenue.

    • @pjuliano9000
      @pjuliano9000 Рік тому +6

      Yep, he reminds me of my grandparents … people were of a different ilk … now mostly people are vapid

    • @itoibo4208
      @itoibo4208 Рік тому +18

      Yes. I remember when my grandparents had 100 ships. It was a better time.

    • @bloodaonadeline8346
      @bloodaonadeline8346 Рік тому

      it’s sad now America is all about victims clamoring to suck whatever they can out of the society.

  • @raymondpetrovits2336
    @raymondpetrovits2336 Рік тому +274

    Sharing such a private moment with strangers was so therapeutic to all people involved. Having or not having money is irrelevant. Being a good person and providing for your family is key.

    • @LynGrengs
      @LynGrengs Рік тому

      What I think you need is a Financial Adviser, who can help you get in and out of any stock you buy at any time and you'd sure be in Profit

    • @KatrinUriegas
      @KatrinUriegas Рік тому

      Who would you recommend?

    • @DionneRabey
      @DionneRabey Рік тому

      Would recommend *STEPHANIE KOPP MEEKS,* cos she's very proficient in her game I have seen loads of news of

    • @TonyaDepaola
      @TonyaDepaola Рік тому

      *STEPHANIE KOPP MEEKS *, she must really be that good for her to be talked about in such a way. Is she on UA-cam? Please how do I reach her?

    • @EmiliaEnglerth
      @EmiliaEnglerth Рік тому

      UA-cam is a public place. Just do a web lookup using her full name and connect to her official webpage.

  • @mspencer679
    @mspencer679 9 місяців тому +3

    Noah Kagan is a star...HIs silence during this interview was breathtaking....ty

  • @louissavoy4832
    @louissavoy4832 Рік тому +119

    As a father, and as a man who shares very similar values as this gentlemen, I'm in awe of his depth and calmness of spirit. He is a truly wonderful individual.

  • @morebaileyskim
    @morebaileyskim Рік тому +335

    Well I did not expect to be in tears of empathy and compassion watching an interview with a shipping billionaire but here we are

    • @SmallSpoonBrigade
      @SmallSpoonBrigade Рік тому

      There's no such thing as a good bllionaire. They're all horrible people that steal it from the people that work for them and the general public. They are the enemy.

    • @variszarins
      @variszarins Рік тому +1

      He is not a billionaire

    • @irrelevant6769
      @irrelevant6769 Рік тому +5

      ​@@variszarins In that case, he was mislead by the title, so you can go correct the person that made the title of the video.

    • @Curiousnessify
      @Curiousnessify Рік тому +2

      thats not the point@@variszarins

    • @Automobiliana
      @Automobiliana 3 місяці тому

      You’re not alone.

  • @dalemyers9439
    @dalemyers9439 Рік тому +45

    Powerful dialog. I lost a daughter recently tragically and I know exactly how important it is live forward, and in doing so I honor my beautiful,daughter. She would expect me to be courageous and make a difference everyday in my life. It’s a challenge. Really enjoyed his perspective on living with loss. Wonderful interview!

  • @akoimichael
    @akoimichael Рік тому +55

    This was an incredible interview. TONS OF GOLDEN NUGGETS from this man.
    When I use to work at a hospital my favorite thing to do was always talk with the elders that were there. They love to talk and share their experiences and the lessons they've learned in their lifetime. This reminds me how much we can learn from those who have come before us and how we tend to just neglect them.

  • @suseyq4559
    @suseyq4559 Рік тому +255

    Mr. Hudner is so self aware. He is a walking encyclopedia of how to deal with life’s issues. I would love to say “thank you for sharing your profound insight.”

    • @Kat_12389
      @Kat_12389 Рік тому +3

      I have seen many fathers disinheriting their children from family's wealth. So, no. He has accepted his son's death and realistically knows that it's futile trying to give up billion dollars to get him back.

    • @Lo-to7zh
      @Lo-to7zh Рік тому

      Why being proud of destroying the planet with OIL trading and overconsumption? America has caused most of the OIL Shipping accidents in the world just to get more OIL to get a better army and their population to become more obese with overconsumption 😅

    • @andrewashmore8000
      @andrewashmore8000 Рік тому +1

      Indeed quite self aware

    • @marisol033
      @marisol033 Рік тому +3

      HE KNOWS HOW TO LOVE WHAT OUR GOD HAS TO OFFER HUMANITY

  • @mattkent2651
    @mattkent2651 Рік тому +13

    OMG. This interview is just gold. I find Michael Hudner just so transparent, and every single word coming of his mouth is a lesson in what it takes to become successful.

  • @Dertrend
    @Dertrend Рік тому +553

    Michael has a massive amount of wisdom, it takes huge courage to do what he did.

    • @jessicasquire
      @jessicasquire Рік тому +1

      May I ask which investments are good? I've been looking at a few different ones but want others' opinions as well

    • @Lemariecooper
      @Lemariecooper Рік тому

      You can glance her name up on the internet and verify her yourself. she has years of financial market experience!

    • @jessicasquire
      @jessicasquire Рік тому

      Thanks so much I was able to find her page and I already leave her a message

    • @patrickbrussels4454
      @patrickbrussels4454 Рік тому +1

      Heard many good recommendations about Stephanie Kopp Meeks by some YT channe|s, Seminars and other platforms.

    • @youtubecontenttowatch1037
      @youtubecontenttowatch1037 Рік тому +5

      @@Lemariecooper scammers

  • @views40
    @views40 Рік тому +149

    "If you have a passion for something, that is a form of compensation."
    - Michael Hudner

    • @canadude6401
      @canadude6401 Рік тому +5

      I liked that too! Even if the passion doesn't pay the bills, it does provide a fulfilling life.

  • @mattysqueezesofficial
    @mattysqueezesofficial Рік тому +23

    “Most people have a lust, they don’t have a dream” this was a powerful statement coming from this man because he’s spot on. I would almost bet that the majority of the folks out here today have a “lust” mentality for something (money, power, etc) very few actually have a genuine “passion” to pursue & live out their dreams. It is why many many businesses fail & don’t end up making it. Lust gets you nowhere.

    • @Owl-yc2yu
      @Owl-yc2yu 5 місяців тому

      I'd say most people let their dreams be replaced by those vague lusts for money, power, etc. You see some who whole heartedly pursue their dreams but those dreams dont necessarily make you wealthy nor popular.

  • @riamu1985
    @riamu1985 Рік тому +95

    He is rich but the heart he has is the true wealth

  • @annsmith7207
    @annsmith7207 Рік тому +46

    Losing a child is by far the most painful and difficult challenge any parent can ever experience. And there is never full closure -- it is carried through a lifetime. Mr. Hudner is one very courageous individual and I will keep referencing this video for quite some time. Blessings!

  • @zanoura
    @zanoura 5 місяців тому +5

    You showed such respect by listening and not interrupting, letting him speak about his son and pain. Thank you, you just won a subscriber.

  • @mrmilkshake9824
    @mrmilkshake9824 Рік тому +138

    Love how humble this man is. There is something about an old man talking about what he achieved and making it sound like "it is what it is" and how they made mistakes and got "lucky" and made decisions not knowing the outcomes.

    • @Gamesso1slOo0l
      @Gamesso1slOo0l Рік тому +17

      because as life is coming to a close, things become more clear. Fancy cars and fancy houses are empty pursuits. Once you get em, they remain fun for only a small amount of time and often soon just become another thing to maintain and often become a burden. To me life is about simply living an honest, fair, empathic life. I always tell my wife, whom I have known since childhood, when I pass if the vast majority of people simply say, " He was a nice guy" , well to me that is a life well-lived.

    • @hiddenname9809
      @hiddenname9809 Рік тому +11

      That's what happens when you become older. You start to see the bigger picture and you can look back at your life. Life also humbles you.

    • @akhilnama1989
      @akhilnama1989 Рік тому

      What if it happens when you are young, you wouldn't be able to justify yourself are you just an escapist or you truly see life for what it is. To justify oneself not society, one goes throw all to see if there is something. Wise People like these have guts and they just re-validate that there is nothing in there but It highly impacts the drive which is required to achieve these things and then you do things half-heartedly. Sometimes I wish I could also enjoy bliss of ignorance. Because whatever you do in this ignorance it is also part of, "it is what it is" is when you grow old.
      "Lost are those who think they found themselves". Life is not about finding out but just to be, play to win but ok to lose.

  • @melissam6037
    @melissam6037 Рік тому +82

    I wasn’t expecting this, but when he talked about going through the loss of his son, it was one of the realest things I’ve ever seen.

    • @sunstarsmoon
      @sunstarsmoon Рік тому +8

      He has 'everything' but lost a young son and his beloved wife to a brain cancer. Do we want his hand or our own?

    • @utpharmboy2006
      @utpharmboy2006 Рік тому +6

      ​@@sunstarsmoonwe are all dealt a tough hand by the end. i think its all about how you want to play it.

    • @mercyme8014
      @mercyme8014 Рік тому +6

      I was so touched to see this man be so honest which was deeply compassionate towards his son and all humanity. My father rejected receiving the cremated ashes of his bipolar alcoholic son who committed suicide. Night and day this man and my father …who provided but did not protect his family, did not get real help for his son when he could have the first time he tried to kill himself at 19.

    • @avimae4225
      @avimae4225 Рік тому

      ​@@mercyme8014😢😢😢

  • @stevel6943
    @stevel6943 10 місяців тому +3

    One of the best interviews ever. A great interviewee and a thoughtful and balanced interviewer. Excellent.

  • @henriquelaydner4080
    @henriquelaydner4080 Рік тому +161

    This was amazing! I stumbled on this video, got dragged by it’s title and all of the sudden I was getting a life lesson that I was much in need of. My wife and I have been going through a lot regarding our daughter’s mental health and hearing Mr. Hudner’s story about his son was enlightening. As a bonus, his view on what money represents, or should, reinforced my own beliefs. Thank you so much for this opportunity. This is the kind of material that makes the internet worth, despite all the garbage it produces. Greetings from Porto Alegre, Brazil!

    • @calisongbird
      @calisongbird Рік тому +13

      This gentleman talks about the “money culture” and greed being out of control - and the interviewer runs a money channel all about how to get rich. I find this ironic and fascinating.

    • @BayouBarbie504
      @BayouBarbie504 Рік тому +4

      ​@@calisongbirdvery much a wild juxtaposition, such is life!

    • @donb2527
      @donb2527 Рік тому +1

      You should look up the principle of «coincidence of wants», it explains what money is pretty well, to summarize:
      It’s to avoid the issue of bartering which occurs when someone has something you want, but they don’t want what you’re trading for it.

  • @RatherBeCancelledThanHandled
    @RatherBeCancelledThanHandled Рік тому +98

    He’s unique and a class act .

  • @finishtherace.24
    @finishtherace.24 6 місяців тому +6

    Michael Hudner, you are a remarkable person and an example for taking your pain and making it into something noble, and holding your values and a positive outlook on life and all it entails. You should be proud. I’m sure you’ve helped many people, more than you realize.
    And to you, Noah, I don’t know one interviewer that would have had, as you did, the sensitivity and constraint to respect the person and let he have his moment to pause, to catch his breath and to continue on to conclude his thoughts at his own pace, on an emotional matter. Very respectful.

  • @restassuredworship
    @restassuredworship Рік тому +26

    What a precious man. Life is so short. But empathy and true love are the priceless gemstones we unearth through the pain and sorrow.

  • @kingofcorridosfilm2154
    @kingofcorridosfilm2154 Рік тому +112

    Fantastic interview. What a special special guy. Honestly you would walk by a guy like this on the street and never know what an absolute gem of a human being he was. You did it sir. You did it.

  • @3v3ry1
    @3v3ry1 Рік тому +29

    Holy crap. I’ve heard a lot of podcasts and interviews and this is possibly the best one. Just heartbreaking and incredible and so much wisdom…. I would love to hear him again.

  • @LilianNwokike-vs4jw
    @LilianNwokike-vs4jw Рік тому +138

    My respect for this man. To be so vulnerable in this interview.

  • @carolinacruzleal
    @carolinacruzleal Рік тому +6

    This gentleman has all the qualities I value in a man. His success isn’t based nor in randomess or merely luck. Is a result of his endurance and insight of life. Thank you for such a real, open and raw conversation.

  • @gbsartworks4963
    @gbsartworks4963 Рік тому +511

    The part where he realizes that being empathetic to others was a gift from his late son was just so sad and beautiful at the same time. The most painful thing for me in the world is probably seeing your kids leave life before you. This interview was truly inspirational.

    • @pedronogueira7689
      @pedronogueira7689 Рік тому +5

      Reminds me of the book “man search for meaning”, the author survived the nazis concentration campa and observed that the survivors were not the strongest but the ones that found some meaning to want to go on and were able to endure

    • @tannhauser5399
      @tannhauser5399 11 місяців тому

      No is not. Just another billionaire in the world, where everything is almost about profit, greed, and corporatins are killing whole ecosystems (such plankton which produces over 40% of
      oxygen) in the name of the next year stock price. All about the money.
      He should have had compasion and understanging way before it, help people along the way, support various charities (animals included), be more pro active with his support (given all the money), and do something good during his life.
      At the end of his life? Screw it. Just another old guy that suddendly discovered his own mortality, and that money cannot buy everything at the end. And somehow become compassionate about everything else. And suddendly we should be more understanding or feel compasion, considering what is going on in every day life? In a world where people are literally dying because of lack of water, abuse, exploitation, and wars? No. He should have done more, long time ago if he was so compassionate about it. Just another old guy, regreting his life choices, even worse - because he had money to change a lot.
      Eat the rich, and bring out the guilottine. French had a good approach long time ago.

    • @libertarian100
      @libertarian100 11 місяців тому +1

      Great Interview. The Earth is Flat and Globalism is Done. Hyperborea may exist at Magnetic North directly under Polaris.

    • @ifeawosika966
      @ifeawosika966 5 місяців тому

      ​@libertarian100 chill. Flat earth has nothing to do with this conversation

  • @vincerandom7715
    @vincerandom7715 Рік тому +284

    "We don't deal the cards in life. We have to play them". Wise words right there

    • @Logic101-j5i
      @Logic101-j5i 11 місяців тому +3

      Yes, and someone gets to play with an IQ of 130 while you're stuck playing with 90

    • @after_midnight9592
      @after_midnight9592 11 місяців тому

      It is like a poker match, where you fold most of what you're dealt and only play with the really good hand.

    • @thenamelessone123
      @thenamelessone123 11 місяців тому

      Ain't that the goddamn truth

    • @watamutha
      @watamutha 11 місяців тому

      @@Logic101-j5iTrue. And some people have it even worse than an IQ of 90 like having sicknesses and being born in a poor country.

  • @78ramcharger53
    @78ramcharger53 Рік тому +27

    The drive that this man had to make a living and the drive he has to carry on and be strong and helpful to others from the lost of his son are extremely impressive. I've always said we have to play the cards we're dealt ,you either play or you don't.

  • @torianjallen
    @torianjallen Рік тому +39

    This man had me crying in the car... I love his story. I have three kids, so I'm so sorry for his loss. I felt his words. That said, his story is inspirational. Noah, you did so well on this interview. I love how you navigated everything.

  • @sammymakeitmakecents
    @sammymakeitmakecents Рік тому +69

    What a delightful man. Wise. Grounded. And I love people who are true entrepreneurs like him. They have a passion and they chase the passion, and then the money just comes.

    • @garyr1522
      @garyr1522 Рік тому +1

      Perfectly put.

    • @emilgemc8913
      @emilgemc8913 Рік тому

      samanthanoellesmith
      looks like you are a Gold digger

  • @Pandydacookii
    @Pandydacookii Рік тому +37

    his best line was 'if you don't have an understanding wife, it's probably better not to have a wife.'

    • @lewiswood1693
      @lewiswood1693 11 місяців тому +3

      Man hitting us with some old man wisdom.

  • @haveaday1812
    @haveaday1812 Рік тому +390

    I’d bet you that this man would trade every cent of his fortune to have his son back. I know I would if I were in his position. This interview is a great example that you never know what battle another human being is fighting from the outside, based on what you see.

    • @Redbaron_sites
      @Redbaron_sites Рік тому +5

      Fascinating ❤!

    • @bonchidude
      @bonchidude Рік тому +9

      I would pay all I have to get my kitty back. She was a Tortie. The vets were no help at all. :(

    • @ct1762
      @ct1762 Рік тому +1

      yea and if i saw Elon Musk trapped in a raft floating on the ocean, about to die of thirst, you think i could charge him $400 million for a cold gatorade>? hed pay it in a second.

    • @junkequation
      @junkequation Рік тому +6

      I'd take that bet. I'm sure the guy loves his son, but he's also a businessman, lol.

    • @kristoffernilsson6043
      @kristoffernilsson6043 Рік тому +4

      @@bonchidude 😟... Try remember the good times you had with your kitty and take care ❤!

  • @pearlhartney9
    @pearlhartney9 Рік тому +78

    What a truly wise man. I really felt for him when he was talking about his son. Anyones worst nightmare but he found a way to look at it as a gift! What an amazing outlook. Also loved the analogy of life being like an elastic band. Great interveiw. You always find interesting people and are really good at letting them talk.

  • @jont2576
    @jont2576 10 місяців тому +2

    its funny u see so many people who became incredibly successful or even the slightest bit of celebrity online become so wrapped up in their BDE persona and success, but this guy just remains so genuine and human throughout.

  • @STJ9694
    @STJ9694 Рік тому +13

    This is one of the most impactful uses of UA-cam, period. Noah has the passion to search out successful people and walk right up to them. Many great stories and interviews. This has to be one of the most fulfilling moments for Michael, his wife, for you and for all of us.

  • @nofurtherwest3474
    @nofurtherwest3474 Рік тому +151

    Man that part about his son was intense. As a dad it’s my worse nightmare

    • @kalvinkalvarino9536
      @kalvinkalvarino9536 Рік тому +9

      Me too man me too.

    • @VicDamoneJr82
      @VicDamoneJr82 Рік тому

      Why did you have kids then? Let God take control

    • @nofurtherwest3474
      @nofurtherwest3474 Рік тому +2

      @@VicDamoneJr82 long story. i had one kid. but didn't have more yet because i'm not in a good relationship.
      but my kid is great.
      but i think all parents worry about their kids

  • @Johnsormani
    @Johnsormani 10 місяців тому +2

    Mr Hudner certainly is not a run of the mill American. What a character of a human being!

  • @redmesa2975
    @redmesa2975 Рік тому +21

    That man is the definition of humble & humility. Great interview !

  • @crf637
    @crf637 Рік тому +111

    The part about emotional pain, hits hard. So much respect Michael.

  • @appa85
    @appa85 Рік тому +28

    "The only worse thing than feeling this way is to not feel this way" - that hit hard. Appreciate this man. Your wife and son must be so proud of you.

    • @applejacks8160
      @applejacks8160 10 місяців тому

      Seriously. One of those quotes that will stick with me for a long time.

    • @Ulxshn7l
      @Ulxshn7l 6 місяців тому +1

      My best friend passed away3 years ago (at 23 years old) and her dad said exactly the same thing when I paid her family a visit. ❤

  • @TunjungUtomo
    @TunjungUtomo Рік тому +34

    Never thought I would cry watching an interview podcast about business. Not only as a father I was greatly moved by the story of the loss of his son and how he dealt with it, but I can totally relate to the motivation to become an entrepreneur. I've been an entrepreneur since the day I got out of college, and never did once my goal was to become no.X richest in where I live. I want a good life of course, but I want to achieve it by doing what I'm passionate about and can have a positive impact on society. So happy to know that a successful person out there (I'm not yet successful) has the same mindset.

  • @webuildltd
    @webuildltd Рік тому +67

    A highly emotionally aware gentleman. I could’ve listened to him all day. Thank you for sharing this ❤

  • @ironjohn5914
    @ironjohn5914 Рік тому +19

    I remember being on a ship this guy owned and let me tell you he was down to earth funny and a very kind person.

  • @sheilasimpson7092
    @sheilasimpson7092 Рік тому +132

    Don’t know you. Don’t know him. But how PROFOUNDLY POWERFUL was it for you to literally just run across him on a street. Your gut, your innate curiosity led to this interview. Thank you for exhibiting patience and compassion during this interview. He NEEDED this. His story about his son was humbling and inspiring. He continues to live with purpose due to his “painful love” for his son. His purpose to help others all resulting from his wealth creation. It’s not about money. It’s about purpose! What a wonderful interview. Continue to follow your gut, be curious and genuinely interested in others. 💚

    • @calisongbird
      @calisongbird Рік тому +6

      This gentleman talks about the “money culture” and greed being out of control - and the interviewer runs a money channel all about how to get rich. I find this ironic and fascinating.

    • @Sc0pee
      @Sc0pee Рік тому

      I don't want to be a pessimist, but rather a realist here and state that the interview could've been planned and locked in place already before he "met" the guy in the street. In other words, it could've been scripted. Very common in "reality TV" and such.

    • @tmac9938
      @tmac9938 Рік тому +1

      ​@@Sc0pee we'll never know. enjoy the ride

  • @phamminhs
    @phamminhs Рік тому +23

    "The world has a lot of capital looking for a home" such impactful wisdom condensed in just a short sentence. It hits really hard especially to who (myself included);has an excuse of "but i dont have the capital" Thank you for sharing your wisdom so genuinely !

    • @leonhenry4861
      @leonhenry4861 Рік тому

      Plenty of capital, people just don’t know what to do with it..

  • @mlungisimncwabe8082
    @mlungisimncwabe8082 5 місяців тому +1

    I have never listened to any interview attentively like this one, don't know how many times I have rewind it to hear every word said, question asked,answers given! Am half way to my dream, financial issues holding me back,I've taken short cuts,I regret,complains for working too hard from my family, I've helped people financially which have put me in even tighter corner. I am deeply sorry for your loss. I've learnt a lot from this interview,thank you so much!!!

  • @deanhaycox
    @deanhaycox Рік тому +70

    What a man, want to know what a man is and how to conduct yourself in life. Noah, fantastic interview and letting him speak and talk about his son without interrupting

    • @VictoriaMill-rg9cp
      @VictoriaMill-rg9cp Рік тому

      ❤❤❤❤

    • @SulemaTrollope
      @SulemaTrollope Рік тому

      Noah is one of the most professional and sharp journalists on the job. Do you also like to watch his interviews?

  • @chron4986
    @chron4986 Рік тому +36

    I love this man, insightful, thoughtful, passionate and compassionate. These are the best people to learn from, people who have been through it… ALL. Not just how to hire, fire, and work the system, but who all knows that there is humanity sitting in the passenger seat for that ride.
    Thank you, Michael. My heart and hand go out to you.

  • @millielovedonuts7158
    @millielovedonuts7158 3 місяці тому +1

    Dang having your own child and hearing about what happened to his child really gets you good. That is one amazing gentleman!

  • @mattroguesmith
    @mattroguesmith Рік тому +21

    What an absolute gem of a youtube video from a creator I’ve not come across before. Just landed in my feed as I’m struggling with the battle of money vs health vs life at the age of 51. Grateful to you Noah, but also to your guest for being willing to share. Outstanding - and an instant subscriber here.

  • @justicelaub9094
    @justicelaub9094 Рік тому +225

    This gentleman has positively impacted me, especially with his metaphor about stretching life to its limits but not holding it there. I would love to see this man as the President, a self-made billionaire with actual American values who is humble.

    • @homo-sapiens-dubium
      @homo-sapiens-dubium Рік тому +7

      How do you mean self made? Someone enabled his education at least - nothing in isolation is - everything depends on other things. I agree that hes exceptional - no doubt!

    • @0SexPiss
      @0SexPiss Рік тому

      a billionaire in office with decent morals, i'll believe it when i see it

    • @nelsonc6173
      @nelsonc6173 Рік тому +5

      Self Made? No such thing. People ALWAYS have help and PLENTY OF LUCK along the way. If you're honest with oneself of course. Most people love to perpetuate the myth of the self made man/woman.

    • @aldozilli1293
      @aldozilli1293 Рік тому +7

      ​@@homo-sapiens-dubiumobviously 'no man is an island', but he has made his situation on his own whether that is through his honesty and humbleness that other's have seen and invested in and helped him as an individual as well as through his own skills, life experiences, dedication and knowledge. He has been responsible for his destiny.

    • @homo-sapiens-dubium
      @homo-sapiens-dubium Рік тому +3

      @@aldozilli1293 I agree with you & taking responsibility is often the key. Still think the concept of "self made" is complete egocentric bullshit. I dont see any contradictions in these two statements.

  • @Paula-rh5kl
    @Paula-rh5kl 25 днів тому +1

    Wow, “We are hostages to love in life…” the truth spoken by this man is profound. ❤

  • @ChristianThunder
    @ChristianThunder Рік тому +21

    This man is INCREDIBLE and INTELLIGENT, we need to hear and learn more from a gentleman like this. Age brings wisdom and this man is full of it.

  • @halfcentury1112
    @halfcentury1112 Рік тому +56

    Mike is inspirational - this is quite possibly one of the most touching and meaningful interviews I have ever seen

  • @C54J32A1
    @C54J32A1 5 місяців тому +1

    I understand this man's pain. He is wise enough to see the gift his son left him with, and realizes that he wouldn't had turned out as helpful and compassionate to the world had it not been thanks to his son. Really enjoyed this interview. Thank you.

  • @DamiJegede
    @DamiJegede Рік тому +78

    What an interview! This man has a big heart, and a LOT of wisdom! What a perspective! Please let him know that the community appreciates his story and words of wisdom.

    • @justinwyatt8
      @justinwyatt8 Рік тому +2

      You only clicked on him because he’s a billionaire. You’re not looking for wisdom you’re looking for money

    • @Concojone5
      @Concojone5 Рік тому +1

      I was thinking the same. This is so good we've gotta let him know!

    • @justmeagain7
      @justmeagain7 Рік тому +1

      ​@@justinwyatt8I was thinking something like that.
      Do old poor people have as much wisdom as him but nobody cares about listening to them because they are poor?.

    • @MarjorieWong-ym3ft
      @MarjorieWong-ym3ft Рік тому

      ⁠I do am old and poor ,and is replete with priceless gems of wisdom

  • @donnajalmeda
    @donnajalmeda Рік тому +25

    It's beautiful and deeply moving how this man was able to transform the devastating loss of his son into great compassion for others who are suffering.

  • @madelinebrennan7603
    @madelinebrennan7603 Рік тому +12

    I have a brother, and had a mother (who passed), with schizophrenia. I understand some of his pain and I appreciate what he tells us his son left him with--an ability to grow his empathy and turn it into action. What a painful lesson--all the more reason that his learning it was so humbling and significant. Thank you for sharing that, Michael Hudner. I'm with you in heart. It's a heartbreaking illness.

  • @Milestonemonger
    @Milestonemonger Рік тому +749

    As a mother, I'm willing to bet that he would give away that billion dollars just to have his son back 💔

  • @michaelwoythaler
    @michaelwoythaler Рік тому +20

    There're certainly a few diamonds and many golden nuggets from this wise man. What a great father honoring his son by becoming charitable and lending hands to the less fortunate. Good guy in my book.

  • @marbarosi
    @marbarosi Рік тому +8

    He sounds like he would be a great father. Very humble and very solid outlook on like.

  • @anamosa1574
    @anamosa1574 Рік тому +19

    What I love most about this is how lighthearted it starts
    Hey man you look rich … what do you do
    And before you know it that innocent question captures the hearts of millions
    Great episode

  • @thatoff-roaddude9515
    @thatoff-roaddude9515 Рік тому +158

    You don't get over losing a child but, you learn to live with it.... That's deep😔

    • @fouzianuura2327
      @fouzianuura2327 Рік тому +4

      Right that's very powerful words ❤

    • @earl2688
      @earl2688 Рік тому +5

      I've also heard it said that, "The grief doesn't go away, but it changes." Both are true.

    • @classicalretroback
      @classicalretroback Рік тому +1

      Fact ✅

    • @RAYSUNITED
      @RAYSUNITED Рік тому +5

      I lost my 2-month-old daughter over 12 years ago. And I can say, I know precisely what he's going through and more. You can see the goodness and compassion in him.
      GREAT INTERVIEW!!!

    • @thatoff-roaddude9515
      @thatoff-roaddude9515 Рік тому +1

      @@RAYSUNITED sorry for your loss.

  • @emm1086
    @emm1086 Рік тому +7

    "If you have a passion for something, it is a form of compensation. It gets you through the hard times. "

  • @LuciusMaximusReal
    @LuciusMaximusReal Рік тому +18

    Even that this interview is for us the audience to get inspired with the possibility to pursue our dreams, It broke my heart and my eyes to tears when he talked about his dead son... It was so real and human. Noah, thank you.

  • @rickertpropertygroup
    @rickertpropertygroup Рік тому +29

    I absolutely loved this interview. One of the best ever! Noah let the flow work and the life lessons from Mr. Hudner gave me strong pause, and emotions. We dont want to wreck our life for money. Being nearly 64 something I needed to hear. My condolences on the loss of your Son. Mark Rickert

  • @lifehacks1019
    @lifehacks1019 Рік тому +4

    A wealthy man,rich in wisdom and with a golden heart! It can't be better than this. Thank you Mr Hudner for your inspiration and thank you Noah for bringing him on and letting him pour his heart and gems out.

  • @thomasconroy6975
    @thomasconroy6975 Рік тому +16

    Noah, your gift is allowing people to tell their stories without interrupting

  • @waynerichardson414
    @waynerichardson414 Рік тому +33

    A very wise man giving valuable nuggets of gold in wisdom. Thank you for this inspiring interview and podcast, Noah.

  • @sentient24
    @sentient24 Рік тому +8

    I can empathize with him regarding his son. We lost our son from the same condition, years of dealing with medications and therapies. It is true, once you have this kind of situation, it teaches you that life is not just about success or material acquisition. In the end, you become richer in terms of compassion and willingness to help others. My goal now is to find balance in life. This is not as easy as it sounds, but at the end of the day, whatever brought you fulfillment with some peace and willingness to keep going, is what matters to me most. Money can get you comfort but not replace dear people in your life whom you have lost, especially children.

  • @proadlekopy
    @proadlekopy Рік тому +48

    Shout out to Michael for sharing such personal stuff and Noah for letting him speak

  • @jacques42
    @jacques42 Рік тому +10

    Great that the interviewer kept quiet and let the interviewee speak his heat out uninterrupted. Thank you for this and allow this flow.

  • @samanthabrueckner8582
    @samanthabrueckner8582 Рік тому +37

    This was the first time I have cried whilst watching a business video. Thanks for reminding us what is important in life.

    • @Super_Stan
      @Super_Stan Рік тому +1

      as long as you didnt laugh, as chris d elia would say. thats unproffesional

    • @mb8kr
      @mb8kr 6 місяців тому

      But people to tend to forget soon enough because of character change

  • @jacobhoke581
    @jacobhoke581 Рік тому +86

    I feel this man needed to get this out there in the world like he wanted to help as many people as possible by sharing his life and emotions and it helps bring some humanity to how millionaires are people as well he seems really down to earth

    • @rroman2752
      @rroman2752 Рік тому +3

      Absolutely, lived a similar situation without millions. I also feel it has been a blessing in disguise!

  • @hello_world_104
    @hello_world_104 Рік тому +61

    Noah does a good job of just letting the person talk. And i feel like it would've been a shame for everyone if this guy never got to come on and share his thoughts

    • @bradtrades
      @bradtrades Рік тому +1

      Noah is, by far, one of the best interviewers in this format space.

  • @ordinarypablo
    @ordinarypablo Рік тому +73

    "People who say they never had a chance, never took a chance"
    "We are all hostages of love"
    "We do not deal the cards in life, we have to play them"

  • @neilf335
    @neilf335 Рік тому +17

    Compare Michael's values & sincerity with those of today's shallow, self gratifying, attention seeking 'celebrities': almost impossible, he's not only in a different league he's in a different universe! We, and they, can all learn a lot from him. Thank you for sharing this Michael & Noah.

  • @mikesed860
    @mikesed860 Рік тому +20

    This interview turned into one of the best conversations I've heard in quite some time, this gentleman aloud us the viewers to enter his private life and showed us his soul. Beautiful expression of honest emotions of a life well lived.

    • @SulemaTrollope
      @SulemaTrollope Рік тому +1

      He's a great gentleman and I don't think there are many like him existing on the internet.

    • @marisol033
      @marisol033 Рік тому

      OR IN THE WORLD@@SulemaTrollope