Ohara jarul isn't that likely be villain Bc he was the only one in elbaf who defended Loki atleast a little maybe its that just like otohime harald might have tried to affiliate with world government and bc of nika's legacy still in elbaf or joyboy is connected to them imu declined the offer and might have sent figarland garling to kill him and killed him and Loki witnessed it and tried to stop it but couldn't do anything and with that guilt he is trying to destroy the 'world'(maybe referring to world government)and when jarul and other soldiers came to castle they saw Loki in haralds body and mistook it when they tried to kill him he would have fought back and killed the giants and that's when shanks arrived at elbaf see's the battle he quickly stops Loki and chain him up and he claims elbaf as his territory This is my theory But I have something unrelated to this that I want you to discuss this in a future video Buggy is Rocks' son Bc buggy and shanks are said to be same age right and we know that shanks was found in godvalley by Roger but ever wondered where buggy was from In the ch 1096 when Roger and rocks clash they seem a little like when whitebeard and Roger were like they fight and after they drink and tell tales and before rocks death he might have asked Roger to take care of his son and this could be the inspiration for Roger to give ace's responsibility to garp Think about it 🤯🤔🤔
The reason the Holy Knights showed up now is that Saturn was replaced. The old guys had been content scheming for decades, not making any bold moves. But Garling is much more dynamic, and eager to prove himself to Imu by handling this crisis.
They know the nika fruit is awakened and with it 2 ancient weapons. They know Luffy is hostile against the world gov and they just lost saturn and with garling moving up now they have a empty spot in the knights. They need to deal with those that still follow the sun god. They think wano is crippled with the samurai mostly gone. They do not know about pluton. They dunno that poseidon is back. They do know Loki and the giants are all about the sun god. Kinda obvious they would either decide to kill them all or have them bend the knee.
I feel like jarul and Loki are working together to keep the village from finding out that the beloved harald was selling them out to the world gov that’s why jarul is almost defending Loki at the party
What One Piece has teached us: Be *Partner* as Loyal as *Zoro* Be a *Parent* as caring as *Whitebeard* Be a *Friend* as true as *Luffy* Be a *Sibling* as caring as *Ace* Be as *patient* and *Calm* as *Shanks* Learn to *Sacrifice* for your loved ones like *Bon Clay* And as every character in One Piece taught us *Never give up* on your *Dreams* untill you die. Wish you all a Happy Day❤👍
Well… only after betraying your loved one and nearly destroying them only to realize how important they are on that last one. Just realized as I was writing you can kinda apply that to Ace, too. Pedantic as my response was up to this point, kidding aside, your message is on point.
Are you talking about him running away from magellan pr alabasta? He actually saved himself and luffy by running away, that was the right call in any universe, think if kidd had a friend like bon clay against shanks, he would be alive right now Ace never betrayed his loved ones, luffy was just a stranger when he left him in the hands of those bandits @@NewEstate4thDimension
One Piece does not teach any of that. One Piece teaches u about fighting the power, that the punks and outlaws aren't the enemy, but the system who labels them like that. It's a story about liberation and emacipation. Those are just personality traits of the characters who compose the story. Don't ruin the story for those who are understanding it.
I feel like you are describing shallowly parts of a series that is much deeper than what you're describing. What of the clear depiction of the stupidity of the masses? He includes anyone who doesn't understand this in "the stupid masses", I'm sure. Because he's aware of how stupid and easily manipulated the mob is.
Obviusly Jarul Sword in the head is based on Phineas Gage, who survived as well, but his personality changed because of damage to his prefrontal cortex.
@@tugaysavrim1533 yeah he was having trouble putting sentences together. I'm gonna guess he's a bit delirious from the sword in his head, Thank God the helmet saved him.
My personal theory is that Loki simply lied to everyone like the trickster he is. I was thinking that maybe the goverment made a deal with late King Harald that he would give them the sun god nika fruite that's passed down in the royal family of Elbaph, Loki was against it wanted to stop the deal but the king died somehow in the despite. Goverment took the fruit later and escaped and loki went after them that's why he was on the sea as a pirate. The giants on the island didn't like Loki from the moment before he was even born so they obviously acused him for the killing because they would never assume king Harald would do such a thing as make a deal about the legendary fruit of their country. The fruit that makes you the sun god which every person on elbaph wants to be. Shanks took the fruit from who's who for his own plan about making Ace the sun god but Luffy happend. Loki knowing he can't tell that he lost the fruit said he ate it so they locked him up and I'm thinking that maybe even Shanks and Loki planed for it to be that way so that Luffy would be safe for the time being as the govermet just lost the fruit and can't be sure where it is so they will just assume it is in the guy who said he did eat it.
The government would NOT give up that fruit. That’s the one fruit that changes the world imu would keep that thing locked up if it made its way to Mary joise
@@braymac657I wouldn't agree because you'd think they'd be that tight about anyone with a D title in their name. I think OP is correct, the government may have believed Loki, and thus could have seen the Nika Fruit as potentially being out of the game because it'd be way easier to keep the fruit locked up in a giants body who was literally tied to a country sized Adam tree than to try and trace it down as it literally can have a mind of its own. They could be trying to get Loki now however becuase they may now understand he doesn't have it, meaning it'd be better to recruit him than not. And if they can't get him,getting the entire country of Elbaph to fight instead would be the best they could do.
Imagine Loki playing a part like Itachi in One Piece And in the 8 years after killing his father bro was just rampaging around just to keep World Government away from Elbaph And if all this becomes true then I afraid he is going to die just like Itachi to protect Elbaph
Am i the only person who thinks thats not the right pronunciation for Jarul ?? Hes not a rapper! I think its more of a Y pronunciation than a J… like Yahrl ??
I feel like it might come out to be like The Dark Knight plotline: King Harold = Harvey Dent, was supposed to be the good king but went bad, removed his own horns and murdered 100 great warriors despising their heritage. Loki takes down Harold and, to stop the giants from turning on each other, keeps the details to himself so they can hate and blame him and continue to believe Harold was the good king. Jarul knows the truth but agrees it's the best way and forbids entry to the castle so people figure out what happened. Probably wrong, but Harold went as far as to rip out his own horns, I could see him trying to purge the giants of their ancient giant bloodline.
Loki - "how dare you say I'm good?? I'm bad to the bone, I'm going to destroy the world! I'm the enemy, stay unified in your hate of me" Gotta keep up the ruse.
It could have been a requirement for joining the WG reduce the mature giants that have ancient giant blood and hand the children over. The WG have trying to bio engineer ancient giants for a long time just think of the numbers that joined Kaido. It's possible that Jarul is part ancient giant he is quite big and his horns might be real. So it would make sense he would be there and opposed Harald.
This is probably how it will go. Then que having shanks pretend to beat him and make elbaph his area. So others would not mess with it. Since with so many of the old warriors dead their power has been heavily weakened. That is however... IF they are all dead and it is not fake. Remember there is a third level to elbaph. We do not know if the bones and such are actually real. It could be a whole other level of a lie. Full aizen level shit.
That can't be true. Both of loki's parents are elbaphian giants. Harrowden's mom was a giant from different country and his father couldn't marry her because of that. The king later married loki's mother became they wanted a pure bloodline. So loki being half 3 eyes tribe is most likely not going to happen
@@ProjectileGrommet blindfold is there because loki will tranform into xolotl, quezacotl's sibling if he sees the moon. I'm guessing here. Xolotl (doggy) is also said to be the god of fire and death. DOGA HA HA HA HA DOGA HA HA HA HA
@@shahnulislam9897 Actually, made me think of something. The 5 Suns myth from Aztec mythology, the first race made was Giants, 4th Sun flooded the planet for 52 years, the 5th sun will end in a catastrophic earthquake
My assumption is that Jarul, Loki and the 100 giants that died were all attacking Harold, but nearly lost the fight, and that Harold was an extremely strong opponent who could down 100 other giants. Jarul took a sword to the head and Loki attacked at the same time to kill Harold in the end. But that made them assassins, so while Jarul either intentionally or unintentionally played the victim part and Loki took the entire blame, and exiled himself. Why would all the giants close to Harold attack Harold, and nobody else? My guess is that Harold might have been in talks with the World Government to enact his "peaceful" agenda and that really pissed off the giants, or at least just Loki. Then Loki could have convinced Jarul to rally up and overthrow Harold. This would explain all the dead bodies being in one room, instead of say, outside the castle. This would also be possible because Jarul keeps trying to rationalize Loki's alleged actions, he might have liked Loki.
I've been thinking there seems to be an ongoing theme of prejudice amongst the giants. Maybe the incident with King Harold was rounding up the horned giants and asking them to cut off their horns as he had to remove their symbol of the barbaric ancient giants. Loki included in this hence why his horn seems to be bandaged it could have been a permanent break, or maybe his horns are no longer real because King Harold removed them so he could fit with his belief but Loki wears a horned helm in defiance. But the final straw for Loki was seeing him round up all those with ancient giant blood to remove their horns, essentially trying to erase their history. King Harold still technically has good intentions but taken to an extreme by removing the symbol of warriors amongst the giants. But I'm sure those who strive to be a destructive Nika would oppose the erasure of their ancient giant blood. Could also be why King Harold had a child with someone who was not part of the lineage despite being a king. He wanted to install a King who did not have as strong of a connection to the ancient blood but was met with alot of pushback
I'm so happy you are confirming the theory I had as soon as I read the spoiler! My husband agreed with the points that I made, and was seriously considering it. But hearing you say just tickles me pink 🤗🥳 Maybe I should start writing my own theories down and seeing how many come close? I know I've been far off before 😅 but who hasn't?
We can also ask why Lola rejected Loki's proposal when she really is looking for a husband herself, getting rejected hundred times. It hinted that lola don't like loki for some reason. And I think it's either misunderstood reason or pure negative reason.
very simple explanation could be racism discrimination or just straight up not liking him for some reason. it could explain lokis anger too if it is racism. since loki is not pure blood
It makes sense. Madame Shirley's prophecy has pretty much confirmed Luffy will destroy the world. He will destroy the status quo and liberate the world.
I like the part that the Nika Fruit is Elbaph's fruit not just because of its Lore in Elbaph but the fact that it is the reason why Loki set sail and MAYBEEEE the reason Shanks and Loki fought that resulted in Loki's capture. Make sense to me...
Jarul isnt ok after he lost his best friend, he grew to hate humans while Harold bred with one for Kaido and wanted alliances. Jarul was likely just protecting the giants promise to Joyboy to hold out until he returned.
There is just one thing that’s wrong though If Jaruo don’t like the peaceful nature of Elbaph Why is the peaceful teaching still on the island? HAJUDRIN cannot be a traitor, we have to many seems that shows he has honor
I think what happened actually is King Harold managed to gather many warriors with ancient Giant Blood and tried to kill them, and loki managed to survive. He probably took the blame to save face for the reputation of his father Either that or king harold wanted the throne to be passed to Hajrudin so he wanted loki to die so the throne and the devil fruit is passed to his half blood elbaph son
Just wanted to say that I’ve been waiting for a theorist to make a video exploring exactly this. I’d be keen to hear your thoughts on how the magic transportation circles that gods knight use and potential implications of if they’ve been able to use it at egghead and here the logic that someone’s visited the locations prior and hence lokis ‘betrayal’ and hate of shanks could be because shamrock infilitrated a few years back and slaughtered other giants. Interested on thoughts of why Jarul has a sword through his head but not lokis sword if Loki betrayed the giants.
The idea of Jarul framing Loki for kingslaying and sending him into exile ties it to the Lion king which is of course based on Hamlet, which Shakespeare based on old sagas, circling it all back to vikings and this arc. So maybe he is the evil uncle in this. We just need some ghost to clear things up.
Be a little careful with spoilers. When we first saw Road in his moose skull helmet a couple of spoilers said he was larger than Oars, which led to the miniaturization fruit theory on some channels...
On a higher note. Now that Hajrudin is confirmed to be the son of the late elbaf King Herold. That makes Hajrudin that largest Prince in One Piece. And for the first time. We are in an arc with no princesses.
I'm almost sure Loki is a D. He refused to join the Holy Knights because that would make him a Celestial Dragon/Noble, and he states how disgusted he is with that invitation. It would fall a lot under the theme if Loki's mother was a D., and the whole Jarul scheme would take in consideration he would have to frame/get rid of the D. inside the court so Elbaph could finally join under the World Govt
Please give a thought that Jarul and Loki might have and still are working together Loki took the blame (may be willingly) for killing the king and both play the part to keep the secret Jarul ask Shanks to bring Loki back because they still have stuff to do to protect Elbaf
I wonder why King Harold never ate the fruit. It sounds like they saved it for some reason. I'm guessing Loki has the legendary Surtr fruit. A giant fire demon that brings about Ragnarok sounds fitting
I think.. King Harold was doing stuff with Jarul.. Like it will be furious for a Locked Island king to see his younger generations are serving the Marine... Until loki Stopped him and I think the destruction of Ohara took part in this time..
i´m always wondering if that "sword" sticking through Jarul´s helmet might just be a fake one like we know from cartoons for decades now. or even the entire helmet itself might be a fake one, just pretending that there is an entire and full sword going through it. And who knows, maybe the alledged battle got so heated and chaotic, that even Loki got knocked out cold and everyone is just assuming the story of Loki ending his own father to be true - Loki included - bevause Jarul told everybody that this (alledgedly) has happened. the entire battle to the d34ath might just be a hoax. mayybe everyone was drugged by Jarul (just think of the alcohol induced coma of everyone at the beginning of the Elbaf Arc). and maybe Jarul deleted everybody, except Loki; even giving him a blood stained weapon while he was unconcious. and later he just might´ve convinced Loki to flee the island and the wrath of the other giants, while telling those other giants the made up story of Loki, the father-muderer.
In a sense loki could be the straw hats version of oden. Eventually will be redeemed and go on the final journey help the strawhats and come back to be crowned king like oden should have been
What if...The great betrayer of Elbaph is not Jarule, but SAUL? I mean...He already has ties with the World Government; he has always hated Elbaph and its culture; he knew the Strawhats were coming to Elbaph; he's the LAST person one would think to betray everyone. Probably a crazy theory, but I can see it.
On the Wikipedia page, Loki is called a one sided friend of the gods in Norse mythology, that only as Ragnarok (end of the world) approaches, becomes their enemy. As in this story gods are the bad guys (tenryuubito) and even Luffy is supposed to create this event that destroys fishman island, maybe this proofs kind of a partnership between luffy and loki. Maybe this also means, that at the end of elbaf, we will see this event.
idk why its still even a theory that Loki is a good guy. Luffy's observation haki specifically is conducive to empathising with people and reading their intentions and as far as i know it hasn't failed us yet. I'd be genuinely shocked if Loki isn't a good guy.
The way loki and luffy talked was actually sweet they both got along so well like the way they talked to each other seemed to me like they already knew each other so Loki being this big evil isn’t true it can be an devil fruit power for him to see good but is evil but that’s just dumb
Much like Kuma was labelled a Tyrant I think Loki was branded a trickster to discredit him, turning Hajroden against him and ensuring that he couldn't take the throne
On the bit about the giant with a prophocy that their son will kill them. Reminds me of Baleor evil eye from irish myth he had his daughter captive to prevent the prophecy. the eye could shoot poison would work in One peice.
Wait...I just noticed something. The Oni race has to be connected to Giants. Look at Oars. His horns are the same as Kaidos. But Yamato has smaller horns located differently (may be because biologically female), we haven't seen ancient female giants. But the location of horns of king Harald are located differently (possibly like an ancient giant female). Loki, while his horns (if it is not a helmet) are rather long and thick are still located more to the front of his head instead of the sides like Oars or Kaido. Or maybe Oars was a hybrid of both the Oni and Giant race and the horns are just the representation of how the genes are dominant in the person.
What if Jarul contacted Big Mom pretending it was on the king's behalf to marry Loki with one of Big Mom's daughter, knowing that Loki would refuse the wedding to try to anger Big Mom and kill the king and Loki so it wouldn't appear as an inside plot
What makes the most sense to me right now is that Jarul planned the overthrow, killed Lokis father, blamed Loki for it, other giants believed Jarul because Loki was always mischievous, the others tried to detain him but couldn’t, Loki went on a rampage after he found out what happened to his father, shanks stepped in, detained Loki but gave Loki the advice of playing the role of a villain to protect his life and his fathers legacy of having a warriors death. Shanks knew that Luffy would eventually come to liberate him. I’m expecting some sort of twist with the actual devil fruit Loki has. Maybe he’s just claiming to be the sun god to keep up the facade of him going mad with power. I think the most fitting would be an illusion type devil fruit but I don’t think that would make him over the top stronger than all the other giants. Unless Jarul somehow massacred a bunch of giants and it took all the other giants to capture Loki because he kept making illusions of himself to evade capture. Shanks was able to capture him due to his strong observation Haki. If Loki has an illusionary type devil fruit it would complement Usopp’s way of fighting. Also the crew needs someone on par with the size of Sanjuan Wolf of Blackbeards crew.
Funny how Loki has a helmet with horns while, while his father had the real goods. Seems like the king was about to broker for something important to the natives, while Loki knew well why the ancient giants were being wiped out. So, the king was a possible sell out?
what if loki is like usopp at syrup village and he isn't even that strong of a guy but has somehow tricked the whole world except jarul into believing that he is a tough guy
There is another potential culprit if you think about it, the one that actually killed Harold could have actually been Harjudin's mother after Harold survived Jarul's assassination attempt. That would go well with my theory of her being a spy for the World Government that was sent to Elbaf through Mother Camel with the goal of seducing Harold and weakening Elbaf from the inside by having Harold change his ways.
Let's look at it more objectively. Harald is not who he seems. He became a government dog on his way to becoming a "good" "peace-loving" man. And Loki wanted to stop him. As a result, the king died.And Jarul has the king's sword stuck in his head, which is very suspicious. I have a feeling Jarul took a liking to Loki from childhood. Tried to protect Loki at one point in the fight with Herald hence the sword ( his head) Why was he the only alive with Loki that day? I think Jarul cared for Loki from childhood. Mosa guy could be Jarul.
Been thinking that the battle was about the Nika fruit. And it's between world gov that turns out giants is losing and Loki framed behind it. shanks is actually helping Loki by put him in underworld and taking back the fruit. Shanks chained Loki is a decision he made himself that makes Loki called him coward. And in the end shanks never come back because luffy eaten the fruit.
I think it's going to have to come down to stab versus shanks, and Loki has definitely been framed, maybe he really did kill his father but like you said it is a very good possibility that his father was not what he seemed!
I'll say it again: I feel like Jarul and the other hundred giants who died were, in fact, those who attacked and killed Harold because of the latter's new policy which ended with Jarul getting Harold's sword stuck in his head forgetting the true reason why he was there and Loki being framed for his father's murder due to getting Harold's Devil Fruit and ending up in "boy who cried wolf" situation when he tried to explain his side of the story to the other Giants like when Usopp tried to tell his town that Kuro was a pirate. It also did not help that Harold had been prophesized that he would be killed by his own son which probably made Loki think that his father hated him and favored Harjudin. So Loki stopped claiming his innocence and started living as how he was viewed. As for Loki's past mischiefs, I think that it was due to perceiving Harold's new policy as Harold favoring Hajrudin, wanting Elbaf to accept Harjudin and Harjudin's mother instead of Loki whose mother had died. He caused mischief in order to gain Harold's attention only to not receive it. After years of not gaining Harold's attention, Loki started to view Harold's statement of Elbaf 'no longer needing warriors' as Harold 'no longer needing Loki himself as a son' which is why he became fixated on becoming a warrior and the Sun God to prove to Harold that he was needed. Loki went out to sea and was like the fourth emperor before Shanks became an Emperor. He tried to trick Big Mom into an alliance through Lola before Lola learned the truth and left. That part has a plot in there but anyway, Shanks became an emperor after defeating Loki kinda like how Luffy became an emperor after defeating Kaido.
Sidebar: I have a feeling that horns of Loki's helmet are not actually his own, but the ones that came of Harold's head - so by that I mean they are fixed to Loki's helmet. No evidence to support this, just a wild guess... 🫡
If Jarul turns out to be a bad guy, maybe Ussop will be the one to take him down. They can debate what bravery and strength are while Jarul is looking for a hiding Ussop to crush him.😅
I think that kid is going to be the one to unlock Loki. Loki will make the same deal that he promised luffy. Kid will want his revenge on red-haired Shanks for destroying his ship
It feels like we're so close to the end of One Piece, I want to know all the mysteries (which I still don't think we''ll get at the end of it), but I really don't want One Piece to end ;(((
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Ohara jarul isn't that likely be villain
Bc he was the only one in elbaf who defended Loki atleast a little maybe its that just like otohime
harald might have tried to affiliate with world government and bc of nika's legacy still in elbaf or joyboy is connected to them imu declined the offer and might have sent figarland garling to kill him and killed him and Loki witnessed it and tried to stop it but couldn't do anything and with that guilt he is trying to destroy the 'world'(maybe referring to world government)and when jarul and other soldiers came to castle they saw Loki in haralds body and mistook it when they tried to kill him he would have fought back and killed the giants and that's when shanks arrived at elbaf see's the battle he quickly stops Loki and chain him up and he claims elbaf as his territory
This is my theory
But I have something unrelated to this that I want you to discuss this in a future video
Buggy is Rocks' son
Bc buggy and shanks are said to be same age right and we know that shanks was found in godvalley by Roger but ever wondered where buggy was from
In the ch 1096 when Roger and rocks clash they seem a little like when whitebeard and Roger were like they fight and after they drink and tell tales and before rocks death he might have asked Roger to take care of his son and this could be the inspiration for Roger to give ace's responsibility to garp
Think about it 🤯🤔🤔
The reason the Holy Knights showed up now is that Saturn was replaced.
The old guys had been content scheming for decades, not making any bold moves.
But Garling is much more dynamic, and eager to prove himself to Imu by handling this crisis.
Then it's the other way around.
Garling was the former captain and played it safe.
Now it's Shamrock and they go hard.
They know the nika fruit is awakened and with it 2 ancient weapons. They know Luffy is hostile against the world gov and they just lost saturn and with garling moving up now they have a empty spot in the knights. They need to deal with those that still follow the sun god.
They think wano is crippled with the samurai mostly gone. They do not know about pluton.
They dunno that poseidon is back.
They do know Loki and the giants are all about the sun god. Kinda obvious they would either decide to kill them all or have them bend the knee.
I feel like jarul and Loki are working together to keep the village from finding out that the beloved harald was selling them out to the world gov that’s why jarul is almost defending Loki at the party
What happens if they do
What One Piece has teached us:
Be *Partner* as Loyal as *Zoro*
Be a *Parent* as caring as *Whitebeard*
Be a *Friend* as true as *Luffy*
Be a *Sibling* as caring as *Ace*
Be as *patient* and *Calm* as *Shanks*
Learn to *Sacrifice* for your loved ones like *Bon Clay*
And as every character in One Piece taught us *Never give up* on your *Dreams* untill you die. Wish you all a Happy Day❤👍
Well… only after betraying your loved one and nearly destroying them only to realize how important they are on that last one.
Just realized as I was writing you can kinda apply that to Ace, too.
Pedantic as my response was up to this point, kidding aside, your message is on point.
Are you talking about him running away from magellan pr alabasta? He actually saved himself and luffy by running away, that was the right call in any universe, think if kidd had a friend like bon clay against shanks, he would be alive right now
Ace never betrayed his loved ones, luffy was just a stranger when he left him in the hands of those bandits @@NewEstate4thDimension
One Piece does not teach any of that. One Piece teaches u about fighting the power, that the punks and outlaws aren't the enemy, but the system who labels them like that. It's a story about liberation and emacipation. Those are just personality traits of the characters who compose the story. Don't ruin the story for those who are understanding it.
I feel like you are describing shallowly parts of a series that is much deeper than what you're describing. What of the clear depiction of the stupidity of the masses? He includes anyone who doesn't understand this in "the stupid masses", I'm sure. Because he's aware of how stupid and easily manipulated the mob is.
@@GamerBlaze436 I’m so glad u mentioned bon clay. I think he’s a straw hat already they way he saved luffy in impel down
Obviusly Jarul Sword in the head is based on Phineas Gage, who survived as well, but his personality changed because of damage to his prefrontal cortex.
@@tugaysavrim1533 yeah he was having trouble putting sentences together. I'm gonna guess he's a bit delirious from the sword in his head, Thank God the helmet saved him.
Maybe he was evil before the sword struck him.
@@TheUnkow maybe he was good before he got the sword
@@basillah7650 maybe he was boring at parties before the sword got in his head
My personal theory is that Loki simply lied to everyone like the trickster he is.
I was thinking that maybe the goverment made a deal with late King Harald that he would give them the sun god nika fruite that's passed down in the royal family of Elbaph, Loki was against it wanted to stop the deal but the king died somehow in the despite.
Goverment took the fruit later and escaped and loki went after them that's why he was on the sea as a pirate.
The giants on the island didn't like Loki from the moment before he was even born so they obviously acused him for the killing because they would never assume king Harald would do such a thing as make a deal about the legendary fruit of their country. The fruit that makes you the sun god which every person on elbaph wants to be.
Shanks took the fruit from who's who for his own plan about making Ace the sun god but Luffy happend.
Loki knowing he can't tell that he lost the fruit said he ate it so they locked him up and I'm thinking that maybe even Shanks and Loki planed for it to be that way so that Luffy would be safe for the time being as the govermet just lost the fruit and can't be sure where it is so they will just assume it is in the guy who said he did eat it.
I am 100% convinced that this is exactly what happened
The government would NOT give up that fruit. That’s the one fruit that changes the world imu would keep that thing locked up if it made its way to Mary joise
@@braymac657I wouldn't agree because you'd think they'd be that tight about anyone with a D title in their name. I think OP is correct, the government may have believed Loki, and thus could have seen the Nika Fruit as potentially being out of the game because it'd be way easier to keep the fruit locked up in a giants body who was literally tied to a country sized Adam tree than to try and trace it down as it literally can have a mind of its own. They could be trying to get Loki now however becuase they may now understand he doesn't have it, meaning it'd be better to recruit him than not. And if they can't get him,getting the entire country of Elbaph to fight instead would be the best they could do.
The Giants would say "hey, that's king Harold's fruit".
This doesn't make sense though it would've been an interesting path.
I'll make it more simple. Mosa is likely Morley, and didn't want the Elbaph and World Government to align.
Imagine Loki playing a part like Itachi in One Piece
And in the 8 years after killing his father bro was just rampaging around just to keep World Government away from Elbaph
And if all this becomes true then I afraid he is going to die just like Itachi to protect Elbaph
@@sankhadeepkundu6996man that makes so much sense
i agree with this but ion think hes gonna die. i mean its one piece come on man 😂
except that itachi is working with the secret group and loki is tied up, so now the more I think about it the less I think they are similar.
I bet 100$ Yaruls sword in head IS actually fake and the gag will be when he's exposed it's just a hat after all these years 😂
@@ItzPmacDoh44 PrtSc this! Its unlikely to be the case. Jarul just don't looked too smart for that kind of scheme. Just wire me the 100$ already. lol
Am i the only person who thinks thats not the right pronunciation for Jarul ?? Hes not a rapper! I think its more of a Y pronunciation than a J… like Yahrl ??
yes. we all know. we are going to continue to say Ja Rule because its fun.
What YOU (THINK). It's a figment of imagination stfu and enjoy the damn story. MFS like you are so annoying.
Ja rule clinging to any form of relevancy even if he doesn't know it
It’s been addressed before, he just likes pronouncing it the way he does and habits are hard to break so he just leans into it
Jarl (pronounced yärl) is an Viking noblilty rank meaning "chieftain"
I feel like it might come out to be like The Dark Knight plotline:
King Harold = Harvey Dent, was supposed to be the good king but went bad, removed his own horns and murdered 100 great warriors despising their heritage.
Loki takes down Harold and, to stop the giants from turning on each other, keeps the details to himself so they can hate and blame him and continue to believe Harold was the good king.
Jarul knows the truth but agrees it's the best way and forbids entry to the castle so people figure out what happened.
Probably wrong, but Harold went as far as to rip out his own horns, I could see him trying to purge the giants of their ancient giant bloodline.
Loki - "how dare you say I'm good?? I'm bad to the bone, I'm going to destroy the world! I'm the enemy, stay unified in your hate of me"
Gotta keep up the ruse.
It could have been a requirement for joining the WG reduce the mature giants that have ancient giant blood and hand the children over. The WG have trying to bio engineer ancient giants for a long time just think of the numbers that joined Kaido. It's possible that Jarul is part ancient giant he is quite big and his horns might be real. So it would make sense he would be there and opposed Harald.
This is probably how it will go. Then que having shanks pretend to beat him and make elbaph his area. So others would not mess with it. Since with so many of the old warriors dead their power has been heavily weakened. That is however... IF they are all dead and it is not fake. Remember there is a third level to elbaph. We do not know if the bones and such are actually real. It could be a whole other level of a lie. Full aizen level shit.
What if he’s blindfolded because he’s half 3 eye tribe? And the destruction refers to reading poneglyphs when he awakens the eye
Intersting 🤔
That can't be true. Both of loki's parents are elbaphian giants. Harrowden's mom was a giant from different country and his father couldn't marry her because of that. The king later married loki's mother became they wanted a pure bloodline. So loki being half 3 eyes tribe is most likely not going to happen
@@ProjectileGrommet blindfold is there because loki will tranform into xolotl, quezacotl's sibling if he sees the moon. I'm guessing here. Xolotl (doggy) is also said to be the god of fire and death. DOGA HA HA HA HA DOGA HA HA HA HA
As tahmid said this most likely cant be true since Loki is a "pure blood" elbaphian giant
@@shahnulislam9897 Actually, made me think of something. The 5 Suns myth from Aztec mythology, the first race made was Giants, 4th Sun flooded the planet for 52 years, the 5th sun will end in a catastrophic earthquake
Ohara your my favourite UA-camr,I love your “Loki’s innocent” theory keep up the good work
Something about loki is giving me that itachi plot twist vibe🤔🤔
I been feeling a reverse aizen. MAybe the giants are not dead.
Loki is like Franky
I think it's interesting that Luffy was predicted to destroy Fishman island, and now "Sun Gos Nika" is being said to be a God of Destruction
So no one wants to talk about how Vice admiral Urban looks like an ancient giant who could hold some anwers.. crazy😅😅
Like ancient giant mixed with fairy and ogre
What if he is Squardo.
Hides his spider tatoo and waits for the day to return the favor to Akainu.
I love the Alien Vs Predator logic. The enemy of my enemy is my friend. Great video man. I always love your work
My assumption is that Jarul, Loki and the 100 giants that died were all attacking Harold, but nearly lost the fight, and that Harold was an extremely strong opponent who could down 100 other giants. Jarul took a sword to the head and Loki attacked at the same time to kill Harold in the end.
But that made them assassins, so while Jarul either intentionally or unintentionally played the victim part and Loki took the entire blame, and exiled himself.
Why would all the giants close to Harold attack Harold, and nobody else? My guess is that Harold might have been in talks with the World Government to enact his "peaceful" agenda and that really pissed off the giants, or at least just Loki. Then Loki could have convinced Jarul to rally up and overthrow Harold. This would explain all the dead bodies being in one room, instead of say, outside the castle. This would also be possible because Jarul keeps trying to rationalize Loki's alleged actions, he might have liked Loki.
To aid you.
If Mosa is Lokis Aunt Morley, the Revolutionary Army wouldn't want that alliance right?
bro ate the theory theory no mi
Lokis life reminds me of a saying: The path to hell is paved by good intentions.
I've been thinking there seems to be an ongoing theme of prejudice amongst the giants.
Maybe the incident with King Harold was rounding up the horned giants and asking them to cut off their horns as he had to remove their symbol of the barbaric ancient giants. Loki included in this hence why his horn seems to be bandaged it could have been a permanent break, or maybe his horns are no longer real because King Harold removed them so he could fit with his belief but Loki wears a horned helm in defiance.
But the final straw for Loki was seeing him round up all those with ancient giant blood to remove their horns, essentially trying to erase their history.
King Harold still technically has good intentions but taken to an extreme by removing the symbol of warriors amongst the giants. But I'm sure those who strive to be a destructive Nika would oppose the erasure of their ancient giant blood.
Could also be why King Harold had a child with someone who was not part of the lineage despite being a king. He wanted to install a King who did not have as strong of a connection to the ancient blood but was met with alot of pushback
Best theory about loki so far❤❤
Idk it did say Harald clashed with the grey beards but I don’t see him being that underhanded.
Bro was right about the two first wars nika and joy boy being different people just saw the spoilers for the next chapter
I'm so happy you are confirming the theory I had as soon as I read the spoiler! My husband agreed with the points that I made, and was seriously considering it. But hearing you say just tickles me pink 🤗🥳 Maybe I should start writing my own theories down and seeing how many come close? I know I've been far off before 😅 but who hasn't?
We can also ask why Lola rejected Loki's proposal when she really is looking for a husband herself, getting rejected hundred times. It hinted that lola don't like loki for some reason. And I think it's either misunderstood reason or pure negative reason.
very simple explanation could be racism discrimination or just straight up not liking him for some reason. it could explain lokis anger too if it is racism. since loki is not pure blood
That Ad is absolutely lovely!
It makes sense. Madame Shirley's prophecy has pretty much confirmed Luffy will destroy the world. He will destroy the status quo and liberate the world.
Nah fam, Jarul is dead and Harold is pretending to be him.
I think Shamrock has a devil fruit complementary to Shanks‘s Power, namely the Second-Hand-Fruit 😅
This could be a great drinking game. Drink everytime that Manu says Ja Rule as the rapper 🤣🤣🤣🤣
I like the part that the Nika Fruit is Elbaph's fruit not just because of its Lore in Elbaph but the fact that it is the reason why Loki set sail and MAYBEEEE the reason Shanks and Loki fought that resulted in Loki's capture.
Make sense to me...
Jarul isnt ok after he lost his best friend, he grew to hate humans while Harold bred with one for Kaido and wanted alliances. Jarul was likely just protecting the giants promise to Joyboy to hold out until he returned.
Loki’s story will probably be a microcosm of Joy Boy/Ancient Kingdom since we know Oda likes to give us mini versions first
There is just one thing that’s wrong though
If Jaruo don’t like the peaceful nature of Elbaph
Why is the peaceful teaching still on the island?
HAJUDRIN cannot be a traitor, we have to many seems that shows he has honor
Also I'm pretty sure Hajudrin wasn't even in Elbaph when it happened
I think what happened actually is King Harold managed to gather many warriors with ancient Giant Blood and tried to kill them, and loki managed to survive.
He probably took the blame to save face for the reputation of his father
Either that or king harold wanted the throne to be passed to Hajrudin so he wanted loki to die so the throne and the devil fruit is passed to his half blood elbaph son
Fleet Ad-miral justiced his way into my heart ❤
I feel a new crew member is coming after this arc
Jarul made a plot against King Harald with it's subordinates and Loki stepped them. Jarul forgot what happened after Loki defeated him
Just wanted to say that I’ve been waiting for a theorist to make a video exploring exactly this. I’d be keen to hear your thoughts on how the magic transportation circles that gods knight use and potential implications of if they’ve been able to use it at egghead and here the logic that someone’s visited the locations prior and hence lokis ‘betrayal’ and hate of shanks could be because shamrock infilitrated a few years back and slaughtered other giants. Interested on thoughts of why Jarul has a sword through his head but not lokis sword if Loki betrayed the giants.
10:04 Hi there, hello! I'm the Fleet ADmiral and I'm out here in ElbAD.
best theory rn actually
reminds me of The lion king.. Simba got framed for killing his father and ran away after uncle Scar told him so
The idea of Jarul framing Loki for kingslaying and sending him into exile ties it to the Lion king which is of course based on Hamlet, which Shakespeare based on old sagas, circling it all back to vikings and this arc. So maybe he is the evil uncle in this. We just need some ghost to clear things up.
Did u guys see the spoilers that just dropped! PEAKKKK
Yeah man, it's freakin juicy! The lurking legend might be revealed and Shanks/Shamrock twin was confirmed
@@bpr9627 the spoiler are crazy elbaf gonna be best arc
Be a little careful with spoilers. When we first saw Road in his moose skull helmet a couple of spoilers said he was larger than Oars, which led to the miniaturization fruit theory on some channels...
Yes my theory of two wars and two Nika's which I predicted few chapters back became reality,
Let me guess, gear green?
I kinda remember when apoo said numbers that they we're a ancient giant, is the numbers the descendants of the old ancient giants ?
On a higher note. Now that Hajrudin is confirmed to be the son of the late elbaf King Herold. That makes Hajrudin that largest Prince in One Piece. And for the first time. We are in an arc with no princesses.
13:53 holy cow, didn't thought about this one
That's was exactly my idea. To add to that I will even say he was part of a plot to join the world government and will be betrayed too by Shamrock
I'm almost sure Loki is a D.
He refused to join the Holy Knights because that would make him a Celestial Dragon/Noble, and he states how disgusted he is with that invitation. It would fall a lot under the theme if Loki's mother was a D., and the whole Jarul scheme would take in consideration he would have to frame/get rid of the D. inside the court so Elbaph could finally join under the World Govt
Loki is a shapeshifter , could be that the Loki chained up is not even Loki.
Please give a thought that Jarul and Loki might have and still are working together
Loki took the blame (may be willingly) for killing the king and both play the part to keep the secret
Jarul ask Shanks to bring Loki back because they still have stuff to do to protect Elbaf
Tha dude Jarul got the killua treatment they gon pull out the sword and he gon remember and might go on giant demon time
I wonder why King Harold never ate the fruit. It sounds like they saved it for some reason. I'm guessing Loki has the legendary Surtr fruit. A giant fire demon that brings about Ragnarok sounds fitting
I think.. King Harold was doing stuff with Jarul.. Like it will be furious for a Locked Island king to see his younger generations are serving the Marine... Until loki Stopped him and I think the destruction of Ohara took part in this time..
I wish Oda would give more information if the Oni race is descended from ancient giants
Shamrock ☘️ has three leaf asuming leaf as head and wolf are highlighted because shamrock wanted to spare that wolf so he should be cereberus 😂
i´m always wondering if that "sword" sticking through Jarul´s helmet might just be a fake one like we know from cartoons for decades now. or even the entire helmet itself might be a fake one, just pretending that there is an entire and full sword going through it. And who knows, maybe the alledged battle got so heated and chaotic, that even Loki got knocked out cold and everyone is just assuming the story of Loki ending his own father to be true - Loki included - bevause Jarul told everybody that this (alledgedly) has happened. the entire battle to the d34ath might just be a hoax. mayybe everyone was drugged by Jarul (just think of the alcohol induced coma of everyone at the beginning of the Elbaf Arc). and maybe Jarul deleted everybody, except Loki; even giving him a blood stained weapon while he was unconcious. and later he just might´ve convinced Loki to flee the island and the wrath of the other giants, while telling those other giants the made up story of Loki, the father-muderer.
In a sense loki could be the straw hats version of oden. Eventually will be redeemed and go on the final journey help the strawhats and come back to be crowned king like oden should have been
The Oden-Loki parallel is kinda wild to thing about
What if...The great betrayer of Elbaph is not Jarule, but SAUL? I mean...He already has ties with the World Government; he has always hated Elbaph and its culture; he knew the Strawhats were coming to Elbaph; he's the LAST person one would think to betray everyone. Probably a crazy theory, but I can see it.
no, he left the marine if you remember. Because his ideologi was different from theirs.
On the Wikipedia page, Loki is called a one sided friend of the gods in Norse mythology, that only as Ragnarok (end of the world) approaches, becomes their enemy. As in this story gods are the bad guys (tenryuubito) and even Luffy is supposed to create this event that destroys fishman island, maybe this proofs kind of a partnership between luffy and loki. Maybe this also means, that at the end of elbaf, we will see this event.
You had me at Ad Miral 😂
idk why its still even a theory that Loki is a good guy. Luffy's observation haki specifically is conducive to empathising with people and reading their intentions and as far as i know it hasn't failed us yet. I'd be genuinely shocked if Loki isn't a good guy.
The way loki and luffy talked was actually sweet they both got along so well like the way they talked to each other seemed to me like they already knew each other so Loki being this big evil isn’t true it can be an devil fruit power for him to see good but is evil but that’s just dumb
Much like Kuma was labelled a Tyrant I think Loki was branded a trickster to discredit him, turning Hajroden against him and ensuring that he couldn't take the throne
What if they thought they gave the Nika fruit to Shamrock but in actuality it was Shanks. And that’s how he ended up with it
On the bit about the giant with a prophocy that their son will kill them. Reminds me of Baleor evil eye from irish myth he had his daughter captive to prevent the prophecy. the eye could shoot poison would work in One peice.
Wait...I just noticed something. The Oni race has to be connected to Giants. Look at Oars. His horns are the same as Kaidos. But Yamato has smaller horns located differently (may be because biologically female), we haven't seen ancient female giants. But the location of horns of king Harald are located differently (possibly like an ancient giant female). Loki, while his horns (if it is not a helmet) are rather long and thick are still located more to the front of his head instead of the sides like Oars or Kaido. Or maybe Oars was a hybrid of both the Oni and Giant race and the horns are just the representation of how the genes are dominant in the person.
Like Zangief said "Just cause Zangief bad guy not mean Zangeif bad guy"
So you’re telling me Loki Low-key isn’t a bad guy?
You're telling me Loki isn't a bad guy? There is fixed it for you.
@@breal84
Nah lowkey you broke it
He had an indent in his head missing his skull 😂
Jarul being chieftain is funny because his name looks like "jarl" (pronounced yärl) an viking nobility rank that means "chieftain"
Do keep in mind many things are simply named differently in Wano, devil fruit vs jutsu
Haki vs ryuo
Ancient Giant vs Oni...
What if Jarul contacted Big Mom pretending it was on the king's behalf to marry Loki with one of Big Mom's daughter, knowing that Loki would refuse the wedding to try to anger Big Mom and kill the king and Loki so it wouldn't appear as an inside plot
I think it's that Mosa is not him. and why the dendenmushi has hair is because as it was said that it is cold resistant version.
What makes the most sense to me right now is that Jarul planned the overthrow, killed Lokis father, blamed Loki for it, other giants believed Jarul because Loki was always mischievous, the others tried to detain him but couldn’t, Loki went on a rampage after he found out what happened to his father, shanks stepped in, detained Loki but gave Loki the advice of playing the role of a villain to protect his life and his fathers legacy of having a warriors death. Shanks knew that Luffy would eventually come to liberate him. I’m expecting some sort of twist with the actual devil fruit Loki has. Maybe he’s just claiming to be the sun god to keep up the facade of him going mad with power. I think the most fitting would be an illusion type devil fruit but I don’t think that would make him over the top stronger than all the other giants. Unless Jarul somehow massacred a bunch of giants and it took all the other giants to capture Loki because he kept making illusions of himself to evade capture. Shanks was able to capture him due to his strong observation Haki.
If Loki has an illusionary type devil fruit it would complement Usopp’s way of fighting. Also the crew needs someone on par with the size of Sanjuan Wolf of Blackbeards crew.
Why feel like Loki will join the straw hats crew as new members
Alright. The AD-Miral got me ice cold xD
same
loki got the oden treatment from that dam king just like how orochi did but loki never died he destroyed there carrior
But Mosa says hes never met Loki in person. So it cant be Jorul.
maybe Jarul just uses a different voice
Funny how Loki has a helmet with horns while, while his father had the real goods. Seems like the king was about to broker for something important to the natives, while Loki knew well why the ancient giants were being wiped out. So, the king was a possible sell out?
Loki is going to join the Straw Hats.
what if loki is like usopp at syrup village and he isn't even that strong of a guy but has somehow tricked the whole world except jarul into believing that he is a tough guy
There is another potential culprit if you think about it, the one that actually killed Harold could have actually been Harjudin's mother after Harold survived Jarul's assassination attempt. That would go well with my theory of her being a spy for the World Government that was sent to Elbaf through Mother Camel with the goal of seducing Harold and weakening Elbaf from the inside by having Harold change his ways.
Let's look at it more objectively. Harald is not who he seems. He became a government dog on his way to becoming a "good" "peace-loving" man. And Loki wanted to stop him. As a result, the king died.And Jarul has the king's sword stuck in his head, which is very suspicious. I have a feeling Jarul took a liking to Loki from childhood.
Tried to protect Loki at one point in the fight with Herald hence the sword ( his head)
Why was he the only alive with Loki that day?
I think Jarul cared for Loki from childhood.
Mosa guy could be Jarul.
I think I know who Mosa/Shaggy is, Hajrudins mother Morley of the Fur. It fits too well...
Maybe the animals that loki is in good spirits with are protecting him from people trying to hurt him.
Been thinking that the battle was about the Nika fruit. And it's between world gov that turns out giants is losing and Loki framed behind it. shanks is actually helping Loki by put him in underworld and taking back the fruit. Shanks chained Loki is a decision he made himself that makes Loki called him coward. And in the end shanks never come back because luffy eaten the fruit.
Chapter 1138 , BANKAI! 🔥
Maybe the giant knew you had to die to awaken the Nika fruit and Loki killed his father hoping it would trigger the awakening
Okay but imagine Loki was talking to hajrudin's mother and she was manipulating him. She was done dirty by the giants. 🤯
I think it's going to have to come down to stab versus shanks, and Loki has definitely been framed, maybe he really did kill his father but like you said it is a very good possibility that his father was not what he seemed!
I'll say it again: I feel like Jarul and the other hundred giants who died were, in fact, those who attacked and killed Harold because of the latter's new policy which ended with Jarul getting Harold's sword stuck in his head forgetting the true reason why he was there and Loki being framed for his father's murder due to getting Harold's Devil Fruit and ending up in "boy who cried wolf" situation when he tried to explain his side of the story to the other Giants like when Usopp tried to tell his town that Kuro was a pirate. It also did not help that Harold had been prophesized that he would be killed by his own son which probably made Loki think that his father hated him and favored Harjudin. So Loki stopped claiming his innocence and started living as how he was viewed.
As for Loki's past mischiefs, I think that it was due to perceiving Harold's new policy as Harold favoring Hajrudin, wanting Elbaf to accept Harjudin and Harjudin's mother instead of Loki whose mother had died. He caused mischief in order to gain Harold's attention only to not receive it. After years of not gaining Harold's attention, Loki started to view Harold's statement of Elbaf 'no longer needing warriors' as Harold 'no longer needing Loki himself as a son' which is why he became fixated on becoming a warrior and the Sun God to prove to Harold that he was needed.
Loki went out to sea and was like the fourth emperor before Shanks became an Emperor. He tried to trick Big Mom into an alliance through Lola before Lola learned the truth and left. That part has a plot in there but anyway, Shanks became an emperor after defeating Loki kinda like how Luffy became an emperor after defeating Kaido.
Sidebar: I have a feeling that horns of Loki's helmet are not actually his own, but the ones that came of Harold's head - so by that I mean they are fixed to Loki's helmet.
No evidence to support this, just a wild guess... 🫡
To be fair: the current leader of the giants can only be someone who survived the attack. Someone who died cant be the leader.
Plot Twist: Big Mum didn't end Jorul... but Jarul did
If Jarul turns out to be a bad guy, maybe Ussop will be the one to take him down. They can debate what bravery and strength are while Jarul is looking for a hiding Ussop to crush him.😅
I think that kid is going to be the one to unlock Loki. Loki will make the same deal that he promised luffy. Kid will want his revenge on red-haired Shanks for destroying his ship
Sounds like the Lion King with Scar and Simba but Simba got caught.
Kaido uses thunder, he could be a descendent of Thor maybe?
I trust Shanks judgement. I don’t think Shanks would prison someone that poses no harm to common folks. Loki is a bad guy.
It feels like we're so close to the end of One Piece, I want to know all the mysteries (which I still don't think we''ll get at the end of it), but I really don't want One Piece to end ;(((
Hey, how about making a video of how to create the ultimate Seraphim!
Harold is the sword in jarul's head.