I've used the original link and sensors now for going on my third season. My only complaint, especially based off of your dead sensor story, is why can't it automatically pick up where I'm playing? I don't think you should have to tell it what hole you are starting on and what your second nine will be to start your round. It should just pick up where you are and if you only play 5, 6, 7 holes before it gets dark. I live right on a course and would like to just turn it on, play the 6-12 holes, sometimes not in order and have it get my log my stats. Am I wrong for thinking that should be easy for it to figure out? Does the new sensor do that?
I thought the review was really good I just brought the pro a couple of days ago and been wondering if there was any new reviews only thing I would of liked is more on the course do you swipe the club past your pocket or does it pick it up automatically some more pics of the actual app and also I noticed you did contact your watch that would of been good to see what info that gave as well but thank you for the review it was really helpful and I look forward to when I get mine. I have been using the Garmin one but found them annoying on having to touch it to your phone all the time that why I changed
I am using the Link Pro now and have played 5 or 6 rounds with it. I have found that when I get home I have to go in and edit the holes. It. seems for me to be off about 10 shots per round. Also, I am like the other viewers in that I am not sure when I hit the button for the pin setting if it is working or not. It would be nice if it blinked or something. I did talk to an Arccos rep about something else and he stated to stand by the pin for a few seconds to ensure that it picked up the position. I would like to know if there is anything that I can do to cut down on missed shots. Great review.
Thanks for this. This is what I was looking for. Sounds like the same issues as the older Link models imo. I always found the older models to have issues if you left your phone in the golf cart and walked away with the link on your belt. I almost always have to edit those shots. I think the issue with missed shots on the Pro probably has something similar to do with the previous issues. Which, imo, makes the new one absolutely NOT WORTH $225. GTFOH with that shit. The fact that I had to pay $50 for the Gen2 feels like flat out stealing imo. If it misses more than 2 or 3 shots per round, it's not worth the money imo.
Thanks, as always for the informative videos. I have been on Arccos for 6-7 years. I have an Apple Watch Ultra and have typically used it to track shots. I purchased the Link Pro (updated old Link). The Apple Watch Ultra has been my go to, but it does prevent me from adding music (Bose Open Ultras - which are fantastic btw - worth your review). Lately, when using the watch to track, I noticed that the iPhone app is not auto-advancing to the next hole. I may try your setup and purchase the Garmin watch and still use the Link Pro. I highly recommend the Bose Ultra Open Earbuds as you can still hear your playing partners and your surroundings. Any feedback on the auto-advance problem or my setup is appreciated. I am staying with Arccos for history purposes and also like the fact that the latest update connects to GHIN.
Tried the Link Pro today. It missed a ton of shots. It was in the front left pocket... one time it actually picked up my wife's drive from another tee box - likely from audible. Seems like the Apple Watch Ultra would always be better at picking up shots based on the accelerometer. Did order the Epix Pro v2
Great review. I’ve played 2 rounds with it and so far so good. Quick question, on the shot screen it shows a white line and a black line. The white usually has an arc to it while black is straight. What are these indicating? Why 2 for one shot? Thanks
If I have an Apple Watch Ultra and the Arccos sensors will I still need the link pro to track shots and listen to music from a Bluetooth speaker? Thanks and thank you for the great reviews!
Does it matter when you mark the pin location? For example can you mark the pin right as you get to the green, and then hit your putt after? Or must it be marked after you’ve holed your putt
Is Link Pro any better at detecting shots than an Apple Watch Ultra? I get occasional misses with my wedges, and it’s overly sensitive with detecting putts.
In my experience it's been about the same. Maybe a little more accurate than the Watch, but I personally haven't had many issues withe the watch tracking - it's been a positive experience with both.
I own both the Link and Link Pro, love the Pro; the only thing I don't love is the set pin button. On mine i can't tell if I've even hit the button, the feedback isn't great. Also, the original Link has the same set pin position feature.
@@vgwizardx Yes, this is correct (which I just found out!). I last tested the original Link, and that wasn't an option when I tested it. So the Gen 2, you are able to set the pin it sounds like.
I have a Gen 2 Link and the button works but the GPS is often wrong when i press the button so I still have to manually put in distance of putts to get useful/accurate data
I have the same issue. Overall shot tracking with the link pro has been great. Will miss the occasional short chip shot but not often enough to be an issue so far. That being said the set pin button is terrible. In 5 rounds I don’t think it has worked once. Incredibly frustrating.
I commented here earlier about doubting the Link Pro. Wanted to come back with a fair assessment. Long time subscriber to Arccos with Gen 2 sensors in the club handles. Verified every club's sensor was functional. I bit the bullet and purchased the new Link Pro. Bottom line is it is no better than the previous Link or just carrying my phone. Recent buddy trip to Myrtle Beach. I played four rounds with the Link Pro. 1 round it quit after hole 8. Maybe I bumped the off button...I'm not sure, but I have no stats for that round. The other 3, maybe one-third of the holes are completely correct. Every other hole requires some sort of adjustment. Even forgiving penalty strokes, Arccos is either off on putts (both too few and too many), extra wedge shots, wrong club detection, missed shots (no I didn't hit my driver 389 yards), shot location, etc. For $225 it is still WAY too off. No device is going to be perfect, but there is little value in this new device. If you have the old Link, stick with it. If you can handle having your phone in your pocket, at least then you can quickly make the adjustments. I wanted it to be better because I do not like carrying my phone...but it just isn't.
I just played my first round with the Arccos Link pro and it picked up all the full shots, pitches, chips flawlessly. Even when I'm far away from my phone in the cart it picks up all the shots perfectly. I do notice though that I have to edit putts often (maybe every other hole) because the sensors doesn't seem to pick that up well. It's a simple process, but still kind of annoying. I do have an Odyssey AI Jailbird putter though that comes stock with kind of a thicker grip, so I don't know if that could be the issue as perhaps I need the SuperStroke sensor or something. Just some initial thoughts anyway for those on the fence.
No monthly costs for the Link Pro specifically. But after your first year, to use Arccos it's $155/year for the service - which is the biggest downside to the system.
@@breakingeighty Thanks for the quick response! Are yearly fees the standard for these types of tracking systems or do you know of any worthwhile cheaper options for keeping historical data?
@@glossolalian It's not uncommon in the world of golf tech products. If you're looking for one without any subscription at all, definitely check out the Shot Scope X5 or V5. I'd personally stay away from their H4, as it's not an automatic system (have to tap your belt before every shot), but the others are solid. See my last video for a comparison of some of these systems. ua-cam.com/video/PL1cExSHFio/v-deo.htmlsi=5Ze88Yb7ctk2GmUk And Garmin has a "golf" subscription, but it's not really necessary for the shot tracking side of things. The one benefit their $120/year subscription will get you heat maps on the greens via the app or compatible Garmin watch.
At 3:56 you said it's good for 2 rounds. I think you meant to say 12, right? For anyone that doesn't already know, that could make or break it. Otherwise, great video, as always. Edit: Now, I think that is what Arccos says... but did you find through testing that it does/doesn't live up to that claim?
Yeah, so the charging case is good for 12 rounds. So as long as you put it back in its case after every round, you won't need to charge the case for 12 rounds. The device itself I think is 2. But I put it back in the case after every round, so I can't tell you exactly how long the device itself will last. But had zero issues during my rounds with it re: battery life.
Does the discount code work on software renewal??? I am kind of surprised you didn’t mention the software licensing fees after purchase. I loved having my Arccos sensors to learn my distances but once the free software ran out and they asked for $150 for a year I kind of balked because of how many other apps do that for free or for far less and work well with my Apple Watch. Granted it’s not as automated but when you figure that’s three or four rounds of golf, $150/year is a lot of money to spend for a software license on a product you’ve already paid for. Had it been $20 or $30 I probably would’ve bought back in.
The discount unfortunately only works on the product itself. And, yeah the subscription is definitely one of the big downsides to the product. That said, I personally think the experience is enough better than other products to warrant it - as long as you play on a pretty consistent basis throughout the year.
@@breakingeighty yeah I just can’t justify that much money for a subscription that reports on what I’ve done instead of how to get better. I know how many greens I missed. Arccos just doesn’t provide $150/yr of added value for me. That & my golf subscription fees are getting close tho the cost of club membership when you bake in sim software and GSPro and Arccos. It starts to get a little crazy so I decided Arccos was the looser as any gps app and a range finder can replace it with the on course data i need.with a one time cost. I don’t need Arccos to tell me my short game needs improvement - my scores tell me loud and clear.Like I said above, at a more reasonable price, I might buy back in but for now it just feels like the next proformance golf
How does the link pro compare to the shot scope H4? the H4 sounds like a link pro that has a screen on it, so wouldn't it be better? Or am i misunderstanding what the H4 actually does?
I have the previous generation and truthfully I would still use my phone to check my yardage etc. While Arccos suggests that the new device is more accurate with sensing the correct clubs and distances, I haven’t used by device at all. The phone works well enough.
Essentially the Link Pro will work the same way as the original, but the upgraded GPS, and microphone array makes tracking shots more accurate. The charging case is a nice quality-of-life feature. But the big question for you is: are you happy with the performance of the current Link? If so, then there may not be a reason to upgrade. Yes it should be more accurate, the charging case makes it more convenient, and I personally like being able to have it in my pocket. But if you’ve been happy with yours and its performance, then I don't think upgrading is 100% necessary. That said, the experience all the way around is better and more refined.
@@breakingeighty That's what I was thinking. I think I will go with a R10 or something first before I think about upgrading to the link pro. I'm not going to really benefit from the extra accuracy at this point in my game. 😅
Hey mate, I tried mine today but it didn't seem to pick up any of the clubs. So I had to manually open my phone every shot and add what club I used. any ideas on how to fix it? It did seem to pick up the position on where I hit the shots from but never recognised what clubs I used and therefore if I played a hole without manually adding the shots it would just say 0 shots once I've finished the hole.
Hmmm that's definitely odd. I'd contact support and see what they say. They're generally really responsive with any issues. Do you have the most up to date app and firmware for the Link?
Thanks for the video. I’ve been looking at Arccos for a while and I think I might jump in now, especially because they have a sale for the Masters. Thanks again.
Did you really mean to say that you can use the Link Pro in either front pocket? I would prefer to use my right pocket, as opposed tto my right "lead" pocket.
Their data layout has always been the best for the data collecting devices. However, and in my opinion this is a big however, why Arccos cannot come up with a more elegant solution like Shotscope with their own watch! Who wants to carry something around in your pocket (even if it is smaller)? The sensors have also always felt a bit large too me. To me, a better product would be a watch option like Shotscope with smaller sensors? I know there are others that will feel differently, but as long as they continue to insist on something in your pocket/on your belt, etc. type model it's a nonstarter for me.
I appreciate your content, but I'm not sure why you say you can't use Arcoss with a Bluetooth speaker. I do that all the time. Both with the original Link, and with Arcoss connected to my phone.
It may be different with Android, but with my iPhone, unless I'm using Link, Link Pro, or Apple Watch - you can't use both Arccos and a Bluetooth speaker. It will say it's connected to the speaker, but sound will only play out of your phone speakers.
Yep, if you want it to, it absolutely can. But the Apple Watch will essentially do all the stuff the Link Pro will. So unless you want to use the Link Pro for shot tracking to save battery life, there isn't necessarily a ton of extra benefit.
Arccos is just so wildly inaccurate for me its virtually useless unless i carefully review each shot and put it in the right place. It shows me incorrectly on or off the fairway, greens, in a trap.... Plus if you forget to move set the flag position just a few times in a round you can dramatically skew your putting stats ... How does Lou Stagner have any integrity pushing data this bad. Maybe its more accurate with a watch? I use the link and am not an apply guy Also, how is it there is not one single video of Arccos with an android watch anywhere on youtube????
Arcos just doesn't work. I really want it to work. The idea is great, the concept is wonderful. But it absolutely DOES NOT track "every" shot. Its tracks some of them, missess loads of them, doesn't jump tontye next hole, puts shots therefore on the wrong hole, requires loads of post round editing, distracts you to total distraction on the course and as a result makes you mad. Furious. Frustrated. It. Just. Doesn't. Work.
Arccos tracks 99% of my shots other than an occasional tap-in putt. I previously used an iPhone 6+, then an iPhone 14 Pro Max in my front pocket. Last year I used an Apple Watch 7. It's been almost perfect with all of them. The only time mine misses shots is when I wear long sleeves over my watch. You should contact Arccos tech and see if they can help.
That is not my experience. I have 100 rounds in Arccos and it almost never misses for me. I guess it might miss 1 shot every 3 rounds max. I always carry the Link or now Link pro in my leading leg pocket with nothing else in the pocket. It always jumps to the next hole for me, as long as you have a sensor on the putter.
I am somewhere in between you two. 12k shots over 160 rounds on Gen 2 sensors. Definitely misses multiple shots per round, but I wouldn't categorize it as "loads". More than it should, but detects most of the shots. On my second Link...and it is not worth the $$$. Hesitant to invest in the Link Pro for more of the same. May just go back to carrying my phone. As much as I hate it, that does seem to do the best job of shot detection. I also wonder about the environment. Cell phone coverage at my home course is spotty at best. I can't find any evidence one way or the other that this affects shot tracking, but I do wonder if that has anything to do with it.
I've used the original link and sensors now for going on my third season. My only complaint, especially based off of your dead sensor story, is why can't it automatically pick up where I'm playing? I don't think you should have to tell it what hole you are starting on and what your second nine will be to start your round. It should just pick up where you are and if you only play 5, 6, 7 holes before it gets dark. I live right on a course and would like to just turn it on, play the 6-12 holes, sometimes not in order and have it get my log my stats. Am I wrong for thinking that should be easy for it to figure out? Does the new sensor do that?
Love your videos, you have an incredible way of presenting. Well done!
I thought the review was really good I just brought the pro a couple of days ago and been wondering if there was any new reviews only thing I would of liked is more on the course do you swipe the club past your pocket or does it pick it up automatically some more pics of the actual app and also I noticed you did contact your watch that would of been good to see what info that gave as well but thank you for the review it was really helpful and I look forward to when I get mine. I have been using the Garmin one but found them annoying on having to touch it to your phone all the time that why I changed
I am using the Link Pro now and have played 5 or 6 rounds with it. I have found that when I get home I have to go in and edit the holes. It. seems for me to be off about 10 shots per round. Also, I am like the other viewers in that I am not sure when I hit the button for the pin setting if it is working or not. It would be nice if it blinked or something. I did talk to an Arccos rep about something else and he stated to stand by the pin for a few seconds to ensure that it picked up the position. I would like to know if there is anything that I can do to cut down on missed shots. Great review.
Thanks for this. This is what I was looking for. Sounds like the same issues as the older Link models imo. I always found the older models to have issues if you left your phone in the golf cart and walked away with the link on your belt. I almost always have to edit those shots. I think the issue with missed shots on the Pro probably has something similar to do with the previous issues. Which, imo, makes the new one absolutely NOT WORTH $225. GTFOH with that shit. The fact that I had to pay $50 for the Gen2 feels like flat out stealing imo. If it misses more than 2 or 3 shots per round, it's not worth the money imo.
Thanks for the cool review. Just ordered using your discount code. ❤
Thanks David! Much appreciated!
Thanks, as always for the informative videos. I have been on Arccos for 6-7 years. I have an Apple Watch Ultra and have typically used it to track shots. I purchased the Link Pro (updated old Link). The Apple Watch Ultra has been my go to, but it does prevent me from adding music (Bose Open Ultras - which are fantastic btw - worth your review). Lately, when using the watch to track, I noticed that the iPhone app is not auto-advancing to the next hole. I may try your setup and purchase the Garmin watch and still use the Link Pro. I highly recommend the Bose Ultra Open Earbuds as you can still hear your playing partners and your surroundings. Any feedback on the auto-advance problem or my setup is appreciated. I am staying with Arccos for history purposes and also like the fact that the latest update connects to GHIN.
Tried the Link Pro today. It missed a ton of shots. It was in the front left pocket... one time it actually picked up my wife's drive from another tee box - likely from audible. Seems like the Apple Watch Ultra would always be better at picking up shots based on the accelerometer. Did order the Epix Pro v2
Great review.
Great review. I’ve played 2 rounds with it and so far so good. Quick question, on the shot screen it shows a white line and a black line. The white usually has an arc to it while black is straight. What are these indicating? Why 2 for one shot?
Thanks
If I have an Apple Watch Ultra and the Arccos sensors will I still need the link pro to track shots and listen to music from a Bluetooth speaker? Thanks and thank you for the great reviews!
Does it matter when you mark the pin location? For example can you mark the pin right as you get to the green, and then hit your putt after? Or must it be marked after you’ve holed your putt
Nope you can mark it anytime. And if you play later in the day, there's a good chance someone earlier will have already marked it.
Is Link Pro any better at detecting shots than an Apple Watch Ultra? I get occasional misses with my wedges, and it’s overly sensitive with detecting putts.
In my experience it's been about the same. Maybe a little more accurate than the Watch, but I personally haven't had many issues withe the watch tracking - it's been a positive experience with both.
I own both the Link and Link Pro, love the Pro; the only thing I don't love is the set pin button. On mine i can't tell if I've even hit the button, the feedback isn't great. Also, the original Link has the same set pin position feature.
I was thinking that to if you have a Gen 2 Link it has set the pin function all you have to do is press the power button once.
@@vgwizardx Yes, this is correct (which I just found out!). I last tested the original Link, and that wasn't an option when I tested it. So the Gen 2, you are able to set the pin it sounds like.
Agreed , that button sucks it’s somehow hard to push and yet mushy and I press it 3 times just to make sure I actually pressed it
I have a Gen 2 Link and the button works but the GPS is often wrong when i press the button so I still have to manually put in distance of putts to get useful/accurate data
I have the same issue. Overall shot tracking with the link pro has been great. Will miss the occasional short chip shot but not often enough to be an issue so far. That being said the set pin button is terrible. In 5 rounds I don’t think it has worked once. Incredibly frustrating.
I commented here earlier about doubting the Link Pro. Wanted to come back with a fair assessment.
Long time subscriber to Arccos with Gen 2 sensors in the club handles. Verified every club's sensor was functional. I bit the bullet and purchased the new Link Pro. Bottom line is it is no better than the previous Link or just carrying my phone.
Recent buddy trip to Myrtle Beach. I played four rounds with the Link Pro. 1 round it quit after hole 8. Maybe I bumped the off button...I'm not sure, but I have no stats for that round. The other 3, maybe one-third of the holes are completely correct. Every other hole requires some sort of adjustment. Even forgiving penalty strokes, Arccos is either off on putts (both too few and too many), extra wedge shots, wrong club detection, missed shots (no I didn't hit my driver 389 yards), shot location, etc. For $225 it is still WAY too off. No device is going to be perfect, but there is little value in this new device. If you have the old Link, stick with it. If you can handle having your phone in your pocket, at least then you can quickly make the adjustments.
I wanted it to be better because I do not like carrying my phone...but it just isn't.
I just played my first round with the Arccos Link pro and it picked up all the full shots, pitches, chips flawlessly. Even when I'm far away from my phone in the cart it picks up all the shots perfectly. I do notice though that I have to edit putts often (maybe every other hole) because the sensors doesn't seem to pick that up well. It's a simple process, but still kind of annoying. I do have an Odyssey AI Jailbird putter though that comes stock with kind of a thicker grip, so I don't know if that could be the issue as perhaps I need the SuperStroke sensor or something. Just some initial thoughts anyway for those on the fence.
Great review! Are there any monthly costs? I'm mainly interested in the historical stat tracking capabilites. Thanks!
No monthly costs for the Link Pro specifically. But after your first year, to use Arccos it's $155/year for the service - which is the biggest downside to the system.
@@breakingeighty Thanks for the quick response! Are yearly fees the standard for these types of tracking systems or do you know of any worthwhile cheaper options for keeping historical data?
@@glossolalian It's not uncommon in the world of golf tech products. If you're looking for one without any subscription at all, definitely check out the Shot Scope X5 or V5. I'd personally stay away from their H4, as it's not an automatic system (have to tap your belt before every shot), but the others are solid. See my last video for a comparison of some of these systems.
ua-cam.com/video/PL1cExSHFio/v-deo.htmlsi=5Ze88Yb7ctk2GmUk
And Garmin has a "golf" subscription, but it's not really necessary for the shot tracking side of things. The one benefit their $120/year subscription will get you heat maps on the greens via the app or compatible Garmin watch.
@@breakingeightyhey the lights on my link pro charging case stay illuminated… is this normal?
The music sold me. Done. Purchased.
At 3:56 you said it's good for 2 rounds. I think you meant to say 12, right? For anyone that doesn't already know, that could make or break it. Otherwise, great video, as always. Edit: Now, I think that is what Arccos says... but did you find through testing that it does/doesn't live up to that claim?
Yeah, so the charging case is good for 12 rounds. So as long as you put it back in its case after every round, you won't need to charge the case for 12 rounds. The device itself I think is 2. But I put it back in the case after every round, so I can't tell you exactly how long the device itself will last. But had zero issues during my rounds with it re: battery life.
Does the discount code work on software renewal???
I am kind of surprised you didn’t mention the software licensing fees after purchase. I loved having my Arccos sensors to learn my distances but once the free software ran out and they asked for $150 for a year I kind of balked because of how many other apps do that for free or for far less and work well with my Apple Watch. Granted it’s not as automated but when you figure that’s three or four rounds of golf, $150/year is a lot of money to spend for a software license on a product you’ve already paid for. Had it been $20 or $30 I probably would’ve bought back in.
The discount unfortunately only works on the product itself. And, yeah the subscription is definitely one of the big downsides to the product. That said, I personally think the experience is enough better than other products to warrant it - as long as you play on a pretty consistent basis throughout the year.
@@breakingeighty yeah I just can’t justify that much money for a subscription that reports on what I’ve done instead of how to get better. I know how many greens I missed. Arccos just doesn’t provide $150/yr of added value for me. That & my golf subscription fees are getting close tho the cost of club membership when you bake in sim software and GSPro and Arccos. It starts to get a little crazy so I decided Arccos was the looser as any gps app and a range finder can replace it with the on course data i need.with a one time cost. I don’t need Arccos to tell me my short game needs improvement - my scores tell me loud and clear.Like I said above, at a more reasonable price, I might buy back in but for now it just feels like the next proformance golf
How does the link pro compare to the shot scope H4? the H4 sounds like a link pro that has a screen on it, so wouldn't it be better? Or am i misunderstanding what the H4 actually does?
I have the previous generation and truthfully I would still use my phone to check my yardage etc. While Arccos suggests that the new device is more accurate with sensing the correct clubs and distances, I haven’t used by device at all. The phone works well enough.
One thing I didn't really hear you mention is if you have the Link is the Link Pro worth the upgrade?
Essentially the Link Pro will work the same way as the original, but the upgraded GPS, and microphone array makes tracking shots more accurate.
The charging case is a nice quality-of-life feature.
But the big question for you is: are you happy with the performance of the current Link?
If so, then there may not be a reason to upgrade. Yes it should be more accurate, the charging case makes it more convenient, and I personally like being able to have it in my pocket. But if you’ve been happy with yours and its performance, then I don't think upgrading is 100% necessary. That said, the experience all the way around is better and more refined.
@@breakingeighty That's what I was thinking. I think I will go with a R10 or something first before I think about upgrading to the link pro. I'm not going to really benefit from the extra accuracy at this point in my game. 😅
Will it work with the sensors in the grips?
Yep! That's what I use for most of my clubs.
Hey mate, I tried mine today but it didn't seem to pick up any of the clubs. So I had to manually open my phone every shot and add what club I used. any ideas on how to fix it? It did seem to pick up the position on where I hit the shots from but never recognised what clubs I used and therefore if I played a hole without manually adding the shots it would just say 0 shots once I've finished the hole.
Hmmm that's definitely odd. I'd contact support and see what they say. They're generally really responsive with any issues.
Do you have the most up to date app and firmware for the Link?
Thanks for the video. I’ve been looking at Arccos for a while and I think I might jump in now, especially because they have a sale for the Masters. Thanks again.
If you’re using the link pro can you still get distances etc on the Apple Watch while you’re using it?
Yep!
i have the link and link pro. There often won't be a hole it misses shots. Or behaves randomly. Would this be a paid review?
Do you need the grips as well so that it works or is it enough to have the link pro in your pocket? Cheers
You need to have the sensors or smart grips. The Link Pro won't work without the rest of the Arccos system.
that’s a shame; I thought it’s maybe like the Apple Watch in which case you do not need any sensors I guess
Can you listen to music through phone while using Arccos with Apple Watch Ultra?
Yes, if you're using the watch for shot-tracking, you can also play music through Bluetooth speaker
I had these before with the iPhone app and it was terrible. Was doing so many corrections that i might as well just right down the stats myself
Did you really mean to say that you can use the Link Pro in either front pocket? I would prefer to use my right pocket, as opposed tto my right "lead" pocket.
I think it will probably work better in your "lead" pocket, but I've personally used it in both, and haven't had any issues when using it in either.
I just ordered the link for about $75 dollars less. I hope it works as advertised.
Their data layout has always been the best for the data collecting devices. However, and in my opinion this is a big however, why Arccos cannot come up with a more elegant solution like Shotscope with their own watch! Who wants to carry something around in your pocket (even if it is smaller)? The sensors have also always felt a bit large too me. To me, a better product would be a watch option like Shotscope with smaller sensors? I know there are others that will feel differently, but as long as they continue to insist on something in your pocket/on your belt, etc. type model it's a nonstarter for me.
I appreciate your content, but I'm not sure why you say you can't use Arcoss with a Bluetooth speaker. I do that all the time. Both with the original Link, and with Arcoss connected to my phone.
It may be different with Android, but with my iPhone, unless I'm using Link, Link Pro, or Apple Watch - you can't use both Arccos and a Bluetooth speaker. It will say it's connected to the speaker, but sound will only play out of your phone speakers.
@@breakingeighty yeah, I have an android, so that makes sense.
So can you use a Bluetooth speaker with the original link?
Yes you can. That's one of the big selling points for using any of the Link devices from my perspective.
The link didnt work on my second try
Does this device work with the Apple Watch so you can have the best of all worlds
Yep, if you want it to, it absolutely can. But the Apple Watch will essentially do all the stuff the Link Pro will. So unless you want to use the Link Pro for shot tracking to save battery life, there isn't necessarily a ton of extra benefit.
I somehow lost the censor on my 58 degree wedge and I noticed yep its picking up the shots with my 58 without a sensor.
How is that possible?
@@jaegeratseait’s not
No - but a good fill light is worth that, & more. ;>
I have the original link. Don’t see any advantage to the Pro for me.
Too bad the original link misses shots all the time. I'm ready to be done with the entire platform honestly.
Arccos is just so wildly inaccurate for me its virtually useless unless i carefully review each shot and put it in the right place. It shows me incorrectly on or off the fairway, greens, in a trap.... Plus if you forget to move set the flag position just a few times in a round you can dramatically skew your putting stats ...
How does Lou Stagner have any integrity pushing data this bad.
Maybe its more accurate with a watch? I use the link and am not an apply guy
Also, how is it there is not one single video of Arccos with an android watch anywhere on youtube????
Arcos just doesn't work. I really want it to work. The idea is great, the concept is wonderful. But it absolutely DOES NOT track "every" shot. Its tracks some of them, missess loads of them, doesn't jump tontye next hole, puts shots therefore on the wrong hole, requires loads of post round editing, distracts you to total distraction on the course and as a result makes you mad. Furious. Frustrated.
It. Just. Doesn't. Work.
Arccos tracks 99% of my shots other than an occasional tap-in putt. I previously used an iPhone 6+, then an iPhone 14 Pro Max in my front pocket. Last year I used an Apple Watch 7. It's been almost perfect with all of them. The only time mine misses shots is when I wear long sleeves over my watch.
You should contact Arccos tech and see if they can help.
That is not my experience. I have 100 rounds in Arccos and it almost never misses for me. I guess it might miss 1 shot every 3 rounds max. I always carry the Link or now Link pro in my leading leg pocket with nothing else in the pocket. It always jumps to the next hole for me, as long as you have a sensor on the putter.
@timshears2099
I may try the link pro - but it drove me mad
I am somewhere in between you two. 12k shots over 160 rounds on Gen 2 sensors. Definitely misses multiple shots per round, but I wouldn't categorize it as "loads". More than it should, but detects most of the shots. On my second Link...and it is not worth the $$$. Hesitant to invest in the Link Pro for more of the same. May just go back to carrying my phone. As much as I hate it, that does seem to do the best job of shot detection. I also wonder about the environment. Cell phone coverage at my home course is spotty at best. I can't find any evidence one way or the other that this affects shot tracking, but I do wonder if that has anything to do with it.
Dat klopt