Surfskate Comparison (Waterborne/ Swelltech/ Carver/ YOW)
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- Опубліковано 30 чер 2024
- In this video, I compare the Waterborne Surf Adapters, Carver CX4 trucks, YOW Meraki S5 trucks, and SwellTech system. I'll be comparing how quickly each setup picks up speed from pumping, how much each truck pivots, how sharply the boards turn and carve, and the general feel and ride of each surf skate.
0:00 - Introduction
0:51 - Pumping
3:05 - Pivot
4:37 - Carving
6:15 - Feel & Conclusion
7:03 - Outro
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learned 10x about surf skate from this than from any other youtube i watched. Great job.
Well done, Mark! Great visual demonstrations.
Hey Steve, thank you! I appreciate your support😊
the reason the swelltech had the "least efficient pumping" is because you are actually doing the dreaded wiggling to pump. Its inefficient on the ST because it forces good technique. All the other surfskate promote wiggling, ST is the only surf accurate one
exactly my thoughts! Propper pumping consistrs of compress and decompress, not wiggling. Wiggling on water takes you nowhere.
Agreed, watching his technique made it obvious that this is not a good comparison
Exactly
Exactly my favorite go to everything board!!! 🎉
This isn't quite true.
Wiggling is a lot like a double pump bottom turn, where as you finish your initial bottom turn, you find yourself behind the section or just not going fast enough, so you add a wiggle to add speed as you go through the flats.
Wiggling does simulate one technique used in surfing, just not the part of surfing that most excites us.
Is the Swelltech going to simulate top turns and cutbacks pretty well? I haven't ridden one but it sure looks like it.
But it seems like no surfskate can really simulate all of surfing completeiy on flat ground. The Carver CX (C7 is really different) with more resistance, can simulate pumping for speed, where the Swelltech can simulate top turns, on flat ground.
Of course, a wave isn't flat, so transitions or surfskate-specific transitions like the wood wave, add a lot more variables.
Nice video, some useful and accurate comparisons - loved the bit where you showed the 4-split screen and how each truck moves!!!. For your next video, (or just for your own interest!) try switching/comparing each different truck - using the same board. I've done this by putting my CX on the POke instead of the 28" Super Snapper, completely different experience! I don't think it's a fully accurate comparison when you compare trucks but on different board lengths & wheelbases. Good luck with the channel!
Amazing comparisons side by side - thank you for making this video! Wishing you 1,000 subs in NO time!
Hey you’re welcome Carmen! And thank you so much!! I really appreciate it 😊🙏🏼
I’d love to see Smoothstar added to a video like this. I love the direct comparison you did on these. This was one of the best review videos I’ve seen
Excellent video! I’ve been wanting to surf skate for a bit. This is a great review!
Great quality content. Subscribed.
Cool review!!! Thank you!
Great video!
That was helpful! And congratz for your 1000 subscribers
Hey Lenny I’m glad I could help! And thank you!! 😁🙏🏼
Thanks for sharing man!
Hey iSurfat41, you’re welcome and thanks for subscribing!😁
Great to see the Poke in action again. I only started boarding three months ago so still have lots to learn. Have been running the Paris setup but have CX.4 trucks coming in a few days. So I'm hoping to have one setup for flatter longer runs and one for smaller wavier places. Great content. Maybe try a cone-cone on the CX front truck...
Hey Karl thank you! That’s awesome you’ve started😁 I’m sure you’ll like the CX.4 trucks and you’ll feel the difference between the Carver and Paris trucks. Yeah that’s a good idea that I’ll have to try out
Great video, thanks
Nice breakdown! New sub.
Thanks for subbing Daniel! 😁
Thank you for doing a comparison video buddy! :)
You’re welcome! :) thanks for watching!
@@gooz Maybe do another video with all trucks on the same deck?!
Awesome video, but for a true feeling of the CX, use the factory cones. Gives way more lean. The nipple bushings you don’t even need a riser they are so restrictive. Need at least a quarter riser on a poke with carver bushings. Not as much rebound, but still really good, with better carving and pumping. Also the 20 1/4” wheelbase on the poke really takes away more than it adds. I think if you had the factory CX bushings on a 17-18 wheelbase, it would have made a way stronger showing. I love the CX trucks if you couldn’t tell….
Thanks for sharing
Hey Mark, So far I had 2 surfkskates, slide and Swelltech. I started with the swelltech (bad idea) and had it for about 6 months. I never ride a skate in my life before the welltech, so as you can imagine, it was very difficult. I got my hands on the slide for about a week after a long wait. I hadn´t got out much, but I love it right away. The trucks system is fundamenal to compare one brand with the other, but I found that thw swelltech´s wheels was very small in comparison with Slides, It was very difficult to ride with the ST on an uneven road. Slide has giant wheels (very similar to the other boards shown here). The one thing I miss about the SW is that you can pump uphill very easy.
standard swelltech wheels are not small, they are 70mm
@@99timewaster 65 mm
@@99timewaster you have both measures. But mine was 65 mm. Not friendly at all on uneven surfaces, compared to Slide ones.
Can you get the Poke to have wheel bite? It seems tapered at the front but there is no wheel well put in.
But seriously, nice breakdown.
Great vid! Have you ever tried reversed rear trucks?
Thank you Mark! Would you recomend the Carver for a completly Beginner?
Which one do you prefer? I just fitted a Waterborne to my Omakase and would like to try the CX next…
That poke cx set up. Want!
The trucks should have been compared in the same deck.
Yeah, maybe do another video with all trucks on one deck?!
and same wheel base!
The wheelbases of these four boards are so different that you can’t just compare how they ride. Shorter wheelbase makes a board that much more nimble which affects turns and acceleration.
You should’ve used all the trucks on the same deck.
Is drop cat 33 a good board for pumping?
your opinion on Loaded poke. Thank you!
Just a heads up, that isn't a "swelltech" model, its the older v truck model which is a LOT more loose and has tiny wheels compared to a newer model with swelltech trucks. Swelltech trucks feel completely different to the model you have in the test.
Just subbed … and I am thinking of the waterborne … mainly cause I love to longboard and cruising long distance like 5 -10+ miles … so I’m on the fence if I should go for waterborne or cx4
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The CX4’s feel closer to regular longboard trucks but they carve deeper and you can pump using them. They’ve got a bouncy feel from having bushings.
The Waterborne adapters completely changed the feel of your trucks to a more flowy, looser feel like you’re surfing.
So the Carver’s are closer to your current cruising setup while the Waterborne’s change up how your ride would feel
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The real question is what are you using the Surfskete for? I mean, if you only want to pump the city the carver experience is the best, because is the best pumper ever, but if you buy a surfskate for practicing while you are not in the beach, or in flat days... Swelltech is the best one i think because one reason: You are going to use it to train the surf moves to help you when you went back to the water!!! It's a so technique one? Yes! but this is what you really want!!! Also, the new trucks are so diferent, they improved a lot the first ones. Congratulations for the video instead, a very good edition. Hope to see you in the next actualization
Which one would you recomend for a complete Beginner? As well surfinging and skating. Carver?
Thanks for letting me know.
After a year i'd love to see the same content, I think you'll love ST more.
I have Yow, WB, Carver c7, Smoothstar (the best) then I decided to buy a ST way better.
Pura Vida 🤙🏽🇨🇷🏝
What's your recommendation for a beginner.
I have access to purchase below 2 adapters, depending on the budget and place i live.
1. Yow V4 with S4 spring, which is recommended for
I have waterbornes on a Carver deck. I feel like my ankle is going to snap when I ride it compared to my identical sized decks with CX trucks.
At this point I believe you have figured out that the wheelbase on Yow was too short for you, that’s why you were nose diving.
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it is worth remembering that they probably had Redbones bearings less St Swelltech than this one with abec 7
The Waterborn has 3 types. You drove with standard? It has also carve and mega pump mode.
I'm testing the waterborne FIN and tossed some riptide krank fatcones on the board side of the rail adapter. I have so much control now and no scary lean. It's my favorite setup now easy.
Noticed a lot of arm swinging. Was this early on when you first learned to ride surf skates or is not because the pavement is so rough ?
Hey Chris, yes this was early on before I learned the correct technique! I watched a lot of Surfskate Love and Shane Lai videos afterwards which helped.
@@gooz marvelous ! I was just curious thanks much !
You’re welcome! 😊
Put your Yow trucks and 4 president wheels on the Omakase at the 20 3/4”wheelbase.You’re welcome😎👍
and the winner is?
Hi do you sell you yow kontiki deck?
Hi, sorry no it’s not for sale!
Bro u nt pumping correctly. Use projection. This way the yow board is possible to pump even faster cos of the more stable rear trucks to pump harder for more speed. And the technique u use for swelltech is wrong. U have to engage yr whole body to get swelltech pumping in the correct way. While u wont get it faster than cx, it will be way faster than what u were doing.
Great video and thabk you for buying the 4 models to upload the review. But i muat aay as a swelltech user that your riding position is really bas. The review.is kinda biased at least for the swelltech because you're pumping it like if was a carver (and its not it have 2 springs to use them to pump insteado od moving your body that way).... Also your fret position is rrally poor, front foot ahouls be just above the 2 screws and you are puting it on the middke of the board. That way you cant generate leverage. Front foot should carry moat if the weight. I know that sounds scary but after aome.month of traininf you get it (as well after 1 year maybe learn how to pump with efficiency)
Anyway thank you for the content im not trying to hate on just to share as well!!
Good info thanks .. hey 😂you have a private message option re new truck ideas 🤔👊✌️
Nice test but Wrong comparison. The Yow board is too small(wheelbase) for the skater and he is clearly not used to swing arm. Would have been much quicker then the Carver with a board the same size and a better foot position (to much forward now!)
Good video and review format. You’ve got to get better at riding before you’re review’s will be more relevant. You aren’t riding these boards correctly, so you’re not going be able to articulate the nuanced differences between these systems for their intended users. At best, this is relevant towards other beginners. It’s got potential however.
The video is well made but the way you pump and carve are invalidating the information you give. That kinda sad. You lack of proper technique unfortunately.
its not claimed to be scientific. different wheels/ bearings/ wheel bases. I think very useful for people starting out. I got the yow, but was considering the carver,.
Seriously this dude obvi doesn’t know how to surf… and when reviewing surf skates that’s pretty much 50% of it
Yea he is def doing it wrong lol. Too much arms and stiff body.
Not to hate or nothing but your form is not good brother you gotta get lower and push with your back foot
Sorry bruh you can't carve any of them we'll be honest with yourself! I have a Swelltteck and it's by far the best and yes it cruises too! It's all about practice makes perfect 😊