I completely forgot about this movie. I don’t know why Hollywood tries to push King Arthur and Robin Hood so often. Also reminds me of the Legend of Tarzan (2016), which I think was a flop. Episode idea?
That was both the name of an unmade Wachowski’s Robin Hood movie and there was almost a Sony Robin Hood movie simply titled Hood that would’ve been an origin story that was intended to start a franchise of Merry Men and Maid Marian movies leading to a “Mission Impossible style heist movie”
There was, and still is, an obsession to give an existing IP the “Dark Knight” treatment. Nolan had a specific vision that studios don’t seem to quite get. They think making things darker, gritty and talky is like a skin you can just slap on any previously told story.
@@TeamMBaku88 yeah Nolan's joker represents the human desire for chaos and violence while Batman represents humanity's goodness and virtue. Its a constant battle
The fact that Leonardo DiCaprio is a producer of this movie is just absolutely crazy and ridiculous to hear. That's the most shocking thing about this movie when I did my research 😅
Alan Rickman and to a lesser extent, Morgan Freeman really carry that film so hard, but Kevin Costner and Christian Slater are horribly miscast. I also really enjoyed Brian Blessed's small role as Lord Locksley
Since you mentioned Honest Trailers... I think the theory they came up with in their trailer commentary is actually very likely - some exec kept saying "more like a superhero movie, more like sulerhero movie", until the director finally went "screw this" and just did Batman, but bad
For real there's a DvD rental place in my city (yeah yeah it's in the indie theatre hipster part of town). I wanted to rent this on a lark and they said that it was so bad even they tossed it.
Fun fact: Taron Egerton has all but disowned the film, claiming that the one he signed up for was not the one that ended up being made. It - along with _Billionaire Boys Club_ , which came out the same year - seems to have crippled his career. He's still getting work, but it doesn't seem to be as big as his pre-2018 stuff. Shame, really, I like him as an actor.
@@ItcouldbebunniesI’d say he was never the next big major star he was positioned as. He’s done some fantastic stuff, but he’s more a face in a crowd of other cool young actors as opposed to the fresh faces new kid on the block he once was
I recommend you check out his role in The Dark Crystal: Age of Resistance. He does some amazing work in that series (As does the rest of the cast), and the puppetry, set design, storytelling and world building are all top notch!
This movie was so freaking bad, I turned it off at the beginning of the first "combat" scene. It looked like they were trying to recreate the Battle of Fallujah.
It feels to me they really wanted to make a dystopia version of RH but mixed in the Crusades to lay it straight in that era but already made the sets and clothes to feel timeless
I am a huge fan of both King Arthur and Robin Hood as stories. And while I loved the legend of the sword movie, I hated the Robin Hood movie. I was sad when King Arthur bombed, because “the skills and passion that make you a good criminal leader also make you a good king” is a GREAT take on King Arthur, and the montages were fun. I wasn’t surprised when Robin Hood bombed, because “what if Robin Hood was Batman?” Is a BAD idea. Robin Hood is all about companionship, pastoral settings, and folk hero theft, not sad rainy loners!! Also, my friend who hated it, said her main complaint was that they made Robin Hood an idiot. I don’t think I agree with you on the suspension of disbelief stuff though, I like the idea of a half modern and half medieval setting.
Ah, THIS Rbion Hood. The one with the assault rifle crossbows and heavy machine gun ballistas. The one that is set in some kind of strange parallel umiverse, where the medievals meet the 21st century...
Is that actually the consensus? Honestly I haven't watched them in years because they became boring and predictable but I always thought that's just me
Prince of Thieves came out when I was 16 and we laughed it out of the theater.* I can't believe how much more watchable it is in retrospect. *Except Alan Rickman's Sheriff, we all adored him.
Everyone I knew loved Prince of Thieves. Sure Kevin Costner spoke with his normal american english, but all the interviews done was up front on the fact, they didn't have time for him to learn the accent he should have and if he tried, he was honestly horrible so he just went without. The audience was very accepting about the situation and it didn't take away from the fun of the film.
@@susanruan3663 We definitely did not know/see/hear from the same group of people. I'm fascinated. EDIT - possibly because we were all horrible teenagers at the time? IDK how old you are.
Robin Hood's not the only person needing a FAR better movie. We still need a FAR more accurate, brutal and thematically complex movie after Braveheart about William Wallace, the real-life Scottish Robin Hood.
It grossed $88 million, so people were interested in it. Budget was just too high. Hollywood needs to do a better job controlling costs. More preproduction/planning, fewer expensive FX sequences, a limited number of retakes, smaller-name actors, stock music/sound fx, reuse sets; these are things studios did in the past to keep budgets in check.
My theory: whoever wrote this movie loves LOTR and Legolas and wanted to make a standalone movie about him. But since he couldnt get the rights he Googled searched for characters that use a bow and arrow and Robin Hood was the only one available.
This and the King Arthur: Legend of the Snatch were horribly ill advised "Hip" Middle Ages movies that thankfully died miserably on the vine. Both King Arthur and Robin Hood deserve Lord of the Rings level adaptions, but because everyone fears that they've been "done to death," that they have to put their own spin on it. But that's how every single previous version's maker thought. We need more leatherbound movies for leatherbound classics and less tabloid flyer movies.
I mean, isn't that the problem, though? You don't need a new way to tell the story, you just need to tell the story in a competent way. I don't need a pseudo-modernized Robin Hood, nor do I need that treatment in a story about King Arthur. Give us an old school medieval ass kicker about chivalry, archery, knighthood, magic and kings! We don't have to update them to be snappy and current, we need to embrace their era and just make something epic!
@@nerdjournalI would watch it, but a lot of people won’t watch a movie if they feel like they already know the story. The best way in my opinion would be to make it so spectacular with an insanely high budget so people will tune in just for the set pieces and enjoy the story on the side. But that’s never going to happen
Hear me out, buddy movie about both Robin Hood and King Arthur. They hate each other at first, but become unlikely friends and manage to save maid Marian and Camelot.
@@LucLB01 just because it takes place in olden times , with an old time feel doesn't mean you need to tell the same story over again. Just expand the story , give robin a flat character arc as he goes around helping people .
Oh yes as a fan of honest trailer commentaries from 2018. This film in all its crusade draft notice black hawk dawn archery glory lives in my head rent free.
@@frofrozzty yeah indeed I'm not a native speaker. Would you prefer to write in French, German or Dutch ? Ooooh you only speak one language right ? So, maybe show a bit of humility ? Anyways, please tell me now we can talk as equals, what's the difference ? I'm actually willing to learn and improve.
Nous pouvons converser en Français. Ou rive pale kreyol? Se lang mwen prefere. I speak 3 languages bro. It's a fun movie, you wanna act like a snob then I'll act like an ass. Plain and simple. An kreyòl nou rele 'a strait' yon etwat.
@@frofrozzty you did manage the ass part, granted without stress. And you missed the whole point, but no surprise there. I'm glad to see you're not limited to a single language, now that means you can probably understand simple spelling mistakes do not mean much on someone's value or the value of their answers. I was wrong in my assessment of your ignorance, apologies for that. Now I wish you a good day, and wish you can some day learn to grow up and discuss without agressivity. Und wenn das wäre für dich ganz unmöglich, fick aus, ich könnte dir nicht helfen damit.
I felt that from the interview from the director comparing bows and arrows to guns is telling he wanted to do a modern take on it. The studio decided probably late into production considering the costumes to make it medieval. 'Compromised' would be how I describe this film. As for my favorite Robin Hood it's the 1938 Errol Flynn film Adventures of Robinhood.
I was not aware of a cast member losing their life in this movie's making, so that put a damper on things. With that said, you are right, this is a perfect "turn off your brain" movie, and that is what I love about it. Spoken good or back of it, I am happy this movie is even mentioned. Great vid!
For a character who’s in the public domain, he sure doesn’t feel timeless like how one would envision. Robin Hood peaked with the animated Disney flick. And the legacy the character left was carried on through Arrow, a show that adapted the Dc comics character ‘Green Arrow’, who was basically their version of Robin Hood. It’s not that him and King Arthur aren’t popular anymore, it’s just that Hollywood doesn’t know what to do with them.
I'm not gonna lie, I liked this movie and am bummed we won't get a sequel. As an Award Winning Screenwriter, and Film Student, I can authoritively say (opinionate) this film was obviously just about having fun. Not Oscar bait. Not a definitive rendition. Not a bloody history lesson - just an excuse to do cool stunts without modern tech (guns, rockets, cars.... Etc) and cool costumes! (Come on... They know dang well they weren't historical, and we know that, but credit where it's due!) I also feel the tapped into a different side of Robin Hood, not the fun or heroic side persay - but definitely with a confident swag like the kid in class who knows he doesn't fit in, but still has your attention - even if to talk s**t to make yourself feel more relevant! Not saying your review is bad or anything - just politely disagreeing! I went into this movie just wanting to escape any semblance of reality, including the Library with its accurate history books, and just watch cool stunts with bow and arrow, with a cast having a good time! Which doesn't require one to be good at the craft! Like a person who sucks at basketball, but is happy to be on the court! You include them because you respect the heart and intentions! It's the same with this movie! Save, again, in my opinion, it looked good doing it and gave me exactly what I was looking for in ENTERTAINMENT!
two things, firstly i always find it strange when adaptations of robin hood treat the sheriff of Nottingham as some lord on the level as a king when he is a sheriff, aka a cop. he should have at most a nice small house, a horse and like 10 goons. secondly, Americans should be banned from adapting robin hood until they learn how to pronounce Nottingham correctly
Actaully the job was the High Sheriff of Nottinghamshire, Derbyshire and the Royal Forests until 1566 and most of the holders were nobility from what I can find. Also the oldest stories have the events taking place in Barnsdale Forest in Yorkshire.
i think they were trying to make a movie similar to A Knight's Tale, with that movie, you don't care that the custumes, music, slang words or even historic characters are centuries apart because it was fun and charming.
Who knew that taking a beloved classic, and doing everything they can to defile it in the name of “novelty” would maybe not work out well? A lesson Hollywood still has yet to learn about adaptation.
I feel like a modern retelling would be cool if they made him a sniper instead of an archer. They could still have him be a skilled archer and have it be present in the film.. but if they made him primarily a sniper, then I think that could be a pretty cool movie.
Ok. I'll put my green tights on and say I'm surprised no one's picked the Errol Flynn Robin Hood. I've seen most of the others and a lot of them aren't bad, but they still can't match the 1938 version. Terrific cast, that incredible score, beautiful photography, and great fights. The defining factor though is Flynn. The man just drips cocky charisma and confidence. No one else has even come close to him.
Saw about 5 minutes of the movie and that was enough for me. My favorite Robin Hood movies are: 1973 Sean Connery Robin and Marion, the Erole Flynn from the 1930's, Mel Brooks Men in Tights, Kevin Costner's 1991 and Ivenhoe (the 1980's movie and the A&E mini series).
This like the King Arthur movie of the previous year failed, as they were not delivering the characters that were expected. Both had changed things so both were made in the style of a Guy Ritchie "Geezer" type movie - and when they are done well they are great but these are the wrong characters for that. You mentioned you felt that audience have no interest in this or King Arthur - I think the issue is that film makers have tried too hard to add a modern twist, and pulled them too far from their folklore origins. Stick to the core story, don't need to make them culturally relevant - just do a good story.
For the "People don't strongly relate to / enjoy these characters" I have to strongly disagree; I think the main issue with modern and live action Robin Hood adapations is that the people who are making them genuinely don't seem to understand what Robin Hood is about. They make it an action adventure hero story with a love interest and try to make a male power fantasy with bows and arrows ~ the reality of what people enjoy and love about Robin Hood's character (myself included) is that he is a man forced to do illegal things by the unjust rule of a Tyrant, pushed into the woods with his band of fellow thinkers who don't want or can't tolerate the absurd taxation on the people, which causes extreme hardship and poverty for everyone. After MUCH SUFFERING of the people, eventually Robin Hood is forced to do even more brazen and heroic acts in order to try and balance the scales any way he can - and there are consequences, and the fallout of what it means to be a hero of the people is explored. That's why in the animated Robin Hood the entire town gets arrested and he has to try and save them all in a grand escape; it's not because he's Action Man, able to Action his way out of things in a predictable manner. It's because it's what needs to be done, it's right, it's just - Robin Hood is a morality tale and SO MANY of these live action shows barely even touch on that aspect. They might show him giving away gold but they never show the families and how they benefit or need it - remember the rabbits in the animated one? Or the poor townsfolk? Characters we all met and were able to see how his help let them keep going. He's an inspiration to the people, that's all - hope for a better future and a more just ruler quantified by folks who are struggling. We just had that CEO get murked the other day, you REALLY think people wouldn't relate to a hero who tries to right such wrongs? Of course they would, they'd eat it up if it was made by someone competent and able to understand basic emotional story beats and structure and deliver something that wasn't just Standard-Action-Movie garbage. Edit: "Robin Hood peaked in 2008" Oh man, I liked you =/ why you gotta go and say dumb shit like that.
I remember the ad campaign. It is so aggressive that I immediately got red flags that it was a bad film being pushed to get as many seats filled before word of mouth ruined any chance at a profit.
I won’t go for any modernized BS that’s ashamed of its roots. Give me a honest, beautiful adaptation of King Arthur or Robin Hood and I’ll go multiple times and buy a copy. Srsly, last time it was done straight was when, in the 40’s? None of us were alive.
A fantasy movie - not a Robin Hood movie. Bombed of the same reason "King Arthur: Legend of the sword" bombed. Very little respect for the source material, neither Robin Hood nor King Arhtur are classified as "fantasy" they are both children of their eras. Fantasy is a rather new genre, starting with George MacDonald´s "Phantastes" from 1853.
Good video👍. I would personally like you to do a video on Lightyear, as it was pretty clear Pixar and Disney wanted to turn it into a big franchise until it flopped
The best adaptation of Robin Hood was in the movie Time Bandits. You can find the whole scene on UA-cam if you haven't seen it yet. While I love Disney's animated Robin Hood and Mel Brooks take; I find Time Bandits to be my favorite because it is basically a short Monty Python sketch.
This movie remind me to the 2000 blockbusters...big budget movie,starlets from the moment,action and nonsence trama😂 good days...its actually kind of entreteining
Never even heard of this garbage. The best Robin Hood adaption is the british TV show Robin of Sherwood from the 80s. Second best was the Kevin Costner movie but not the idiotic directors cut, just the original cinema version.
Dude, I discovered your channel today and I'm hooked, there's even a film so forgotten that it was worth a video, the problem is that I don't remember the name lol, the story involved a magical book in which everything written came true, does anyone remember?
The BBC TV series does not get enough love, its by far my favourite adaptation of Robin Hood and i adored Jonas Armstrong as the lead with Lucy Griffiths as Marian. Keith Allan was also an outstanding and hilarious Sheriff with Richard Armitage bringing a brilliant and emotional performance as Guy of Gisborne. Its truly and underappreciated masterpiece.
Despite seeing the trailers a lot back in the day, this is one of those movies that always slips my mind. I completely forget about it's existence until somebody on UA-cam makes a video about it, which leads to the same reaction every time: "A Robin Hood Movie? I don't remember a Robin Hoo....ooh, right. The Robin Movie that somehow wants to look modern without looking modern!"
i was surprised when i finally rented it how much i liked it. i tend to always be 'one of only 5 ppl that liked it' for random movies no one talks about or hates.
At least it’s not as bad as the Oppression fantasy Canadian show Robyn Hood,, were Robyn is a female rapper in the band call The Hood or something in the New Nothingham housing projects
The one-two punch of original & parody with Prince of Thieves & Men in Tights has hampered any subsequent production of Robin Hood because nothing can equal those, let alone the classic Erroll Flynn versions.
I grew up loving Robin Hood. In modern days, you're right. I don't know if it can hold up. It's because the story has been told. Robin Hood really doesn't have a lot to say. The story is good but very contained.
Another reason so many modern remakes/sequels fail is because they’re doing “Fast and Furiousization”. Why does every movie need some sort of big chase scene or elaborate heist scheme?
Thing about the budget, theaters keep about half and marketing isn't included, so "break even" actually means roughly double the budget. It's an extremely common mistake people make. Way, WAY more movies are technically bombs than people realize because studios hide the full cost and intake and profits/losses. It's also worse now because old models used to factor in DVD and Blu Ray sales and TV rights, but because everything goes to streaming for ??? money, the post theatrical money draw is a complete mystery box. Lots of movies were duds in theaters that went on to become timeless classics and financial successes due to TV or DVD, ie Wizard of Oz, It's a Wonderful Life, Fight Club, Blade Runner. I don't think it happens as much with streaming.
You should check out the kids show "Maid Marian and her Merry Men", really really funny show. Loved it as a kid! Written by the same Tony Robinson, who worked on Blackadder.
I can not stress another key factor in the dislike people have towards the two latest Robin Hoods: None of them are "normal" Robin Hood stories. Disney's Robin Hood and Prince of Thieves are more or less what you image when you think of a Robin Hood movie, the 2010 has like 5 minutes of Robin Hood doing Robin Hood stuff and the 2018 takes place in some weird mix between modern and medieval times.
4:45 I read Ridley Scott’s Robin Hood was originally called “Nottingham”. It would have been about the Sheriff of Nottingham. He was a tragic anti-hero. A widowed, single father that does what he needs to do to support his iill daughter and mother. Robin Hood was planned to be a thuggish rogue. After a series of murders the sheriff uses 14th century forensics to find the killer. The only part of Nottingham that made it into Scott’s final cut was the battle at the castle.
My headcanon is that this movie is set in a post-apocalyptic far-future where everything is kinda medieval again. Sort of like The Last Knights from 2015.
I'm surprised they didn't just call it "Hood"
I think they did for a bit during production. One of the people on set, with a clapperboard, has Hood written on it in the behind the scenes.
Abandoning the title "Robbin' Hood" was their biggest mistake.
I completely forgot about this movie. I don’t know why Hollywood tries to push King Arthur and Robin Hood so often. Also reminds me of the Legend of Tarzan (2016), which I think was a flop. Episode idea?
@@robertjackson8246 That is a complete missed opportunity 😂😂. Should've made it into a Black Panther esque blaxploitation movie lmao
That was both the name of an unmade Wachowski’s Robin Hood movie and there was almost a Sony Robin Hood movie simply titled Hood that would’ve been an origin story that was intended to start a franchise of Merry Men and Maid Marian movies leading to a “Mission Impossible style heist movie”
There was, and still is, an obsession to give an existing IP the “Dark Knight” treatment. Nolan had a specific vision that studios don’t seem to quite get. They think making things darker, gritty and talky is like a skin you can just slap on any previously told story.
That's why you don't hire marketing people to write your movies
@@TeamMBaku88 Nolan's batman is still on the side of good tho, doesn't want to kill nobody
@@TeamMBaku88 joker is still the bad guy who was proven wrong by batman, the good side still won in those movies
@catpurrito5586 you're so correct. Wow.
@@TeamMBaku88 yeah Nolan's joker represents the human desire for chaos and violence while Batman represents humanity's goodness and virtue. Its a constant battle
Someone made the joke about this movie: Ah, the Nordstrom era of medieval England.
lol that's spot on
That was Honest Trailers that made that joke
they should have done it steampunk in the 19th century. the set up for the sequel could have been jack the ripper.
@@whitleypediathat’s a good ass idea
Thanks! They obviously wanted it to be steampunk@@Leonardo-oq2qf
The fact that Leonardo DiCaprio is a producer of this movie is just absolutely crazy and ridiculous to hear. That's the most shocking thing about this movie when I did my research 😅
His company produced the Orphan movies too. He's far from the first or even latest celebrity to have a production company.
@@kolonarulez5222 I know he has a production company, I'm just baffled how his name as a producer could be attached to something like this
@@Erasureeraserwell, the name wasn’t. money was.
All time Favorite is Disney's Robin Hood with the Fox as Robin Hood, Then Robin Hood Men in Tights and Finally Prince of Thieves
Alan Rickman and to a lesser extent, Morgan Freeman really carry that film so hard, but Kevin Costner and Christian Slater are horribly miscast. I also really enjoyed Brian Blessed's small role as Lord Locksley
Love the Disney. My close second. But The Errol Flynn version is still the gold standard.
Since you mentioned Honest Trailers... I think the theory they came up with in their trailer commentary is actually very likely - some exec kept saying "more like a superhero movie, more like sulerhero movie", until the director finally went "screw this" and just did Batman, but bad
@@yavoth5850 The Dan rant on the mask falling is good stuff
8:38
That clip of the guards moving fire out of the way would make a great meme.
This movie flopped so hard it was literally erased from history
For real there's a DvD rental place in my city (yeah yeah it's in the indie theatre hipster part of town). I wanted to rent this on a lark and they said that it was so bad even they tossed it.
I hope it will be
Fun fact: Taron Egerton has all but disowned the film, claiming that the one he signed up for was not the one that ended up being made. It - along with _Billionaire Boys Club_ , which came out the same year - seems to have crippled his career. He's still getting work, but it doesn't seem to be as big as his pre-2018 stuff. Shame, really, I like him as an actor.
What are you talking about? He won a Golden Globe for Rocketman in 2019 and got a lot of positive attention for Black Bird just last year.
@@ItcouldbebunniesI’d say he was never the next big major star he was positioned as. He’s done some fantastic stuff, but he’s more a face in a crowd of other cool young actors as opposed to the fresh faces new kid on the block he once was
I recommend you check out his role in The Dark Crystal: Age of Resistance. He does some amazing work in that series (As does the rest of the cast), and the puppetry, set design, storytelling and world building are all top notch!
Thank you for your hard work and also... FINALLY letting my brain have a conversation about so so many movies.
thank you for watching!
This movie was so freaking bad, I turned it off at the beginning of the first "combat" scene. It looked like they were trying to recreate the Battle of Fallujah.
Agree, they seem to carry M4A1's instead bows and arrows in close spaces.
It feels to me they really wanted to make a dystopia version of RH but mixed in the Crusades to lay it straight in that era but already made the sets and clothes to feel timeless
I am a huge fan of both King Arthur and Robin Hood as stories. And while I loved the legend of the sword movie, I hated the Robin Hood movie. I was sad when King Arthur bombed, because “the skills and passion that make you a good criminal leader also make you a good king” is a GREAT take on King Arthur, and the montages were fun. I wasn’t surprised when Robin Hood bombed, because “what if Robin Hood was Batman?” Is a BAD idea. Robin Hood is all about companionship, pastoral settings, and folk hero theft, not sad rainy loners!! Also, my friend who hated it, said her main complaint was that they made Robin Hood an idiot. I don’t think I agree with you on the suspension of disbelief stuff though, I like the idea of a half modern and half medieval setting.
Ok, admittedly I don’t watch TV, but I’m online constantly, and I have never heard of this movie. I literally had no idea this existed
It’s made zero impact on pop culture and vanished
Robin of Sherwood (1984) was my favorite adaptation of the Robin Hood legend.
Ah, THIS Rbion Hood. The one with the assault rifle crossbows and heavy machine gun ballistas. The one that is set in some kind of strange parallel umiverse, where the medievals meet the 21st century...
If it was about Garrett, from the Thief franchise, would have worked better with all that weirdly modern crap.
The idea of someone dapping up CinemaSins or Honest Trailers in 2024 is the real mystery here.
Is that actually the consensus? Honestly I haven't watched them in years because they became boring and predictable but I always thought that's just me
Honest Trailers is funny... CinemaSins, yeah, no...
What does 'dapping up' mean? I tried Googling it but it didn't come up with a clear answer.
I'm glad I grew up with the Disney Robin Hood adaptation when it was released on home media. That is so much better than this version.
Disney Robin Hood is gold tier
Prince of Thieves came out when I was 16 and we laughed it out of the theater.* I can't believe how much more watchable it is in retrospect.
*Except Alan Rickman's Sheriff, we all adored him.
Kevin Costner basically played a Gary Cooper style cowboy and it was very effective if you can get past the accent
Yeah, the accent was one of the things that kept taking us out. But the movie is definitely less bad than I remember.
Everyone I knew loved Prince of Thieves. Sure Kevin Costner spoke with his normal american english, but all the interviews done was up front on the fact, they didn't have time for him to learn the accent he should have and if he tried, he was honestly horrible so he just went without. The audience was very accepting about the situation and it didn't take away from the fun of the film.
@@susanruan3663 We definitely did not know/see/hear from the same group of people. I'm fascinated.
EDIT - possibly because we were all horrible teenagers at the time? IDK how old you are.
Robin Hood's not the only person needing a FAR better movie. We still need a FAR more accurate, brutal and thematically complex movie after Braveheart about William Wallace, the real-life Scottish Robin Hood.
I know it's not about Wallace, but I felt Outlaw King did a lot of this.
It grossed $88 million, so people were interested in it. Budget was just too high. Hollywood needs to do a better job controlling costs. More preproduction/planning, fewer expensive FX sequences, a limited number of retakes, smaller-name actors, stock music/sound fx, reuse sets; these are things studios did in the past to keep budgets in check.
My theory: whoever wrote this movie loves LOTR and Legolas and wanted to make a standalone movie about him. But since he couldnt get the rights he Googled searched for characters that use a bow and arrow and Robin Hood was the only one available.
So, not even Green Arrow, or Thief, yeah that game. Not any of that?
Actaully I think more Robin Hood is public domion and as such they can do what ever they like with him.
This and the King Arthur: Legend of the Snatch were horribly ill advised "Hip" Middle Ages movies that thankfully died miserably on the vine.
Both King Arthur and Robin Hood deserve Lord of the Rings level adaptions, but because everyone fears that they've been "done to death," that they have to put their own spin on it. But that's how every single previous version's maker thought.
We need more leatherbound movies for leatherbound classics and less tabloid flyer movies.
Don’t remember why I never saw this movie… but I remember seeing the trailers and wanting to. Now I’m interested in another one of your videos!
While I love the legends of Robin Hood and Arthur, I have no idea how to tell those stories today.
I mean, isn't that the problem, though? You don't need a new way to tell the story, you just need to tell the story in a competent way. I don't need a pseudo-modernized Robin Hood, nor do I need that treatment in a story about King Arthur. Give us an old school medieval ass kicker about chivalry, archery, knighthood, magic and kings! We don't have to update them to be snappy and current, we need to embrace their era and just make something epic!
@@nerdjournalI would watch it, but a lot of people won’t watch a movie if they feel like they already know the story. The best way in my opinion would be to make it so spectacular with an insanely high budget so people will tune in just for the set pieces and enjoy the story on the side. But that’s never going to happen
Hear me out, buddy movie about both Robin Hood and King Arthur. They hate each other at first, but become unlikely friends and manage to save maid Marian and Camelot.
@@ko379 I hate that I love this. This could totally work!
@@LucLB01 just because it takes place in olden times , with an old time feel doesn't mean you need to tell the same story over again.
Just expand the story , give robin a flat character arc as he goes around helping people .
Your on a streak of some hidden bangers ironically
Oh yes as a fan of honest trailer commentaries from 2018. This film in all its crusade draft notice black hawk dawn archery glory lives in my head rent free.
A very apt description of this movie. 👍🏾
Gotta be 'Prince of Thieves'. It's unironically such a fun adaptation with stellar performances.
If you take out Alan Rickman it really becomes "meh" to strait bad movie. But just love him as the Sheriff
@Cancoillotteman I mean that's your opinion, and you don't know the difference between "straight" and "strait" so
@@frofrozzty yeah indeed I'm not a native speaker. Would you prefer to write in French, German or Dutch ? Ooooh you only speak one language right ? So, maybe show a bit of humility ? Anyways, please tell me now we can talk as equals, what's the difference ?
I'm actually willing to learn and improve.
Nous pouvons converser en Français.
Ou rive pale kreyol? Se lang mwen prefere. I speak 3 languages bro. It's a fun movie, you wanna act like a snob then I'll act like an ass. Plain and simple. An kreyòl nou rele 'a strait' yon etwat.
@@frofrozzty you did manage the ass part, granted without stress.
And you missed the whole point, but no surprise there. I'm glad to see you're not limited to a single language, now that means you can probably understand simple spelling mistakes do not mean much on someone's value or the value of their answers.
I was wrong in my assessment of your ignorance, apologies for that.
Now I wish you a good day, and wish you can some day learn to grow up and discuss without agressivity.
Und wenn das wäre für dich ganz unmöglich, fick aus, ich könnte dir nicht helfen damit.
I felt that from the interview from the director comparing bows and arrows to guns is telling he wanted to do a modern take on it. The studio decided probably late into production considering the costumes to make it medieval. 'Compromised' would be how I describe this film. As for my favorite Robin Hood it's the 1938 Errol Flynn film Adventures of Robinhood.
I was not aware of a cast member losing their life in this movie's making, so that put a damper on things. With that said, you are right, this is a perfect "turn off your brain" movie, and that is what I love about it. Spoken good or back of it, I am happy this movie is even mentioned. Great vid!
For a character who’s in the public domain, he sure doesn’t feel timeless like how one would envision. Robin Hood peaked with the animated Disney flick. And the legacy the character left was carried on through Arrow, a show that adapted the Dc comics character ‘Green Arrow’, who was basically their version of Robin Hood. It’s not that him and King Arthur aren’t popular anymore, it’s just that Hollywood doesn’t know what to do with them.
I’d also say the early 2000’s BBC series did him justice
I'm not gonna lie, I liked this movie and am bummed we won't get a sequel.
As an Award Winning Screenwriter, and Film Student, I can authoritively say (opinionate) this film was obviously just about having fun.
Not Oscar bait. Not a definitive rendition. Not a bloody history lesson - just an excuse to do cool stunts without modern tech (guns, rockets, cars.... Etc) and cool costumes! (Come on... They know dang well they weren't historical, and we know that, but credit where it's due!)
I also feel the tapped into a different side of Robin Hood, not the fun or heroic side persay - but definitely with a confident swag like the kid in class who knows he doesn't fit in, but still has your attention - even if to talk s**t to make yourself feel more relevant!
Not saying your review is bad or anything - just politely disagreeing!
I went into this movie just wanting to escape any semblance of reality, including the Library with its accurate history books, and just watch cool stunts with bow and arrow, with a cast having a good time!
Which doesn't require one to be good at the craft! Like a person who sucks at basketball, but is happy to be on the court!
You include them because you respect the heart and intentions!
It's the same with this movie! Save, again, in my opinion, it looked good doing it and gave me exactly what I was looking for in ENTERTAINMENT!
Thanks award winning screenwriter for your input
@newyardleysinclair9960 thanks, buddy!
two things, firstly i always find it strange when adaptations of robin hood treat the sheriff of Nottingham as some lord on the level as a king when he is a sheriff, aka a cop. he should have at most a nice small house, a horse and like 10 goons.
secondly, Americans should be banned from adapting robin hood until they learn how to pronounce Nottingham correctly
Actaully the job was the High Sheriff of Nottinghamshire, Derbyshire and the Royal Forests until 1566 and most of the holders were nobility from what I can find. Also the oldest stories have the events taking place in Barnsdale Forest in Yorkshire.
Along the same vibe, would love a video about the 2013 Hansel & Gretel
Iim not proud to admit i actaully enjoyed that movie unironically
Okay, I actually enjoyed this movie for all the weird reasons. Gemma Arterton was such an eye candy lol
@@Erasureeraser ...was?
@@Erasureeraser You're not the only one mate ! She was the main reason I ever watched it at all
That movie was so fun!
“Men in Tights” is the greatest Robin Hood movie of all time
"Another Stab at Robin Hood" perfectly encapsulates this film.
You should do anayze failure of Borderlands 2024.
I'm sure it'll happen in due time, but the movie came out this year. Part of the fun of these reviews is the fact that no one remembers the movies.
Borderlands was so bad I think most people have repressed the memory of it
All I remember from this movie is that i tried to watch it and got so bored that I just switch movies
It's interesting how you mention the last 15 minutes were really bad, I never made it that far. It was one of the few movies I walked out in.
this reminded me they tried to an "updated" take on Robin hood on TV last year.. robyn hood. had to check to confirm that show was canceled lol
Az endured that crap and his suffering will not be forgotten.
@thientuongnguyen2564 I forgot it even came out lol watching that would be rough
@thientuongnguyen2564 Poor guy has suffered so much, so we don't have to.
The Taking Heads reference got me to sub officially
i think they were trying to make a movie similar to A Knight's Tale, with that movie, you don't care that the custumes, music, slang words or even historic characters are centuries apart because it was fun and charming.
The action clips feel like im play through a mission of assassins creed on the 360 but in live action.
they were straight up washing money in this one
The main character oozes uncharisma from every pores
Another "crap" movie I enjoyed (along with King Arthur: Legend of the Sword). My taste sucks. 😂
Given how much this movie "borrowed" from The Dark Knight trilogy, I'm supprised Christopher Nolan didn't try to sue the filmmakers.
Who knew that taking a beloved classic, and doing everything they can to defile it in the name of “novelty” would maybe not work out well? A lesson Hollywood still has yet to learn about adaptation.
I actually liked the movie, especially the background in trickshooting it used for irs bow technique
I feel like a modern retelling would be cool if they made him a sniper instead of an archer. They could still have him be a skilled archer and have it be present in the film.. but if they made him primarily a sniper, then I think that could be a pretty cool movie.
You forgot the best one though: Men in Tights, best Robin Hood - change my mind
I literally have never heard of this movie.
Ok. I'll put my green tights on and say I'm surprised no one's picked the Errol Flynn Robin Hood. I've seen most of the others and a lot of them aren't bad, but they still can't match the 1938 version. Terrific cast, that incredible score, beautiful photography, and great fights. The defining factor though is Flynn. The man just drips cocky charisma and confidence. No one else has even come close to him.
Absolutely right!!
My favorite and the best Robin Hood movie was from the 30s.
I love this channel and am amazed at how many recent(ish) Hollywood flops you pull out to comment on.
Saw about 5 minutes of the movie and that was enough for me. My favorite Robin Hood movies are: 1973 Sean Connery Robin and Marion, the Erole Flynn from the 1930's, Mel Brooks Men in Tights, Kevin Costner's 1991 and Ivenhoe (the 1980's movie and the A&E mini series).
This like the King Arthur movie of the previous year failed, as they were not delivering the characters that were expected. Both had changed things so both were made in the style of a Guy Ritchie "Geezer" type movie - and when they are done well they are great but these are the wrong characters for that.
You mentioned you felt that audience have no interest in this or King Arthur - I think the issue is that film makers have tried too hard to add a modern twist, and pulled them too far from their folklore origins. Stick to the core story, don't need to make them culturally relevant - just do a good story.
Next is THE LEGEND OF TARZAN & KING ARTHUR & THE THREE MUSKETEERS with Milla Jovich. Oh FRANCHISE KILLERS with Antonio Banderas Zorro
For the "People don't strongly relate to / enjoy these characters" I have to strongly disagree; I think the main issue with modern and live action Robin Hood adapations is that the people who are making them genuinely don't seem to understand what Robin Hood is about. They make it an action adventure hero story with a love interest and try to make a male power fantasy with bows and arrows ~ the reality of what people enjoy and love about Robin Hood's character (myself included) is that he is a man forced to do illegal things by the unjust rule of a Tyrant, pushed into the woods with his band of fellow thinkers who don't want or can't tolerate the absurd taxation on the people, which causes extreme hardship and poverty for everyone. After MUCH SUFFERING of the people, eventually Robin Hood is forced to do even more brazen and heroic acts in order to try and balance the scales any way he can - and there are consequences, and the fallout of what it means to be a hero of the people is explored. That's why in the animated Robin Hood the entire town gets arrested and he has to try and save them all in a grand escape; it's not because he's Action Man, able to Action his way out of things in a predictable manner. It's because it's what needs to be done, it's right, it's just - Robin Hood is a morality tale and SO MANY of these live action shows barely even touch on that aspect. They might show him giving away gold but they never show the families and how they benefit or need it - remember the rabbits in the animated one? Or the poor townsfolk? Characters we all met and were able to see how his help let them keep going. He's an inspiration to the people, that's all - hope for a better future and a more just ruler quantified by folks who are struggling. We just had that CEO get murked the other day, you REALLY think people wouldn't relate to a hero who tries to right such wrongs? Of course they would, they'd eat it up if it was made by someone competent and able to understand basic emotional story beats and structure and deliver something that wasn't just Standard-Action-Movie garbage.
Edit: "Robin Hood peaked in 2008" Oh man, I liked you =/ why you gotta go and say dumb shit like that.
I remember the ad campaign. It is so aggressive that I immediately got red flags that it was a bad film being pushed to get as many seats filled before word of mouth ruined any chance at a profit.
I won’t go for any modernized BS that’s ashamed of its roots. Give me a honest, beautiful adaptation of King Arthur or Robin Hood and I’ll go multiple times and buy a copy. Srsly, last time it was done straight was when, in the 40’s? None of us were alive.
A fantasy movie - not a Robin Hood movie. Bombed of the same reason "King Arthur: Legend of the sword" bombed. Very little respect for the source material, neither Robin Hood nor King Arhtur are classified as "fantasy" they are both children of their eras. Fantasy is a rather new genre, starting with George MacDonald´s "Phantastes" from 1853.
Good video👍. I would personally like you to do a video on Lightyear, as it was pretty clear Pixar and Disney wanted to turn it into a big franchise until it flopped
The best version of robinhood was in star trek, the next generation. Lieutenant wharf declared he was not a merry man
I never knew about this film, guess I won't have to see it now.
Can you please do Valerian and the City of a Thousand Planets?
That movie was awful
The best adaptation of Robin Hood was in the movie Time Bandits. You can find the whole scene on UA-cam if you haven't seen it yet. While I love Disney's animated Robin Hood and Mel Brooks take; I find Time Bandits to be my favorite because it is basically a short Monty Python sketch.
I wanted more of the Call of Duty: Third Crusade stuff. Such a bonkers concept.
This movie remind me to the 2000 blockbusters...big budget movie,starlets from the moment,action and nonsence trama😂 good days...its actually kind of entreteining
Never even heard of this garbage. The best Robin Hood adaption is the british TV show Robin of Sherwood from the 80s. Second best was the Kevin Costner movie but not the idiotic directors cut, just the original cinema version.
Robin... the Hooded Man...
Dude, I discovered your channel today and I'm hooked, there's even a film so forgotten that it was worth a video, the problem is that I don't remember the name lol, the story involved a magical book in which everything written came true, does anyone remember?
Inkheart perhaps?
@@isenhartproductions2677 Yes ! exactly, thank you
The BBC TV series does not get enough love, its by far my favourite adaptation of Robin Hood and i adored Jonas Armstrong as the lead with Lucy Griffiths as Marian. Keith Allan was also an outstanding and hilarious Sheriff with Richard Armitage bringing a brilliant and emotional performance as Guy of Gisborne. Its truly and underappreciated masterpiece.
Despite seeing the trailers a lot back in the day, this is one of those movies that always slips my mind. I completely forget about it's existence until somebody on UA-cam makes a video about it, which leads to the same reaction every time:
"A Robin Hood Movie? I don't remember a Robin Hoo....ooh, right. The Robin Movie that somehow wants to look modern without looking modern!"
Inkheart video when? Feel like I’m the only person who remembers that movie
i was surprised when i finally rented it how much i liked it. i tend to always be 'one of only 5 ppl that liked it' for random movies no one talks about or hates.
At least it’s not as bad as the Oppression fantasy Canadian show Robyn Hood,, were Robyn is a female rapper in the band call The Hood or something in the New Nothingham housing projects
Just the short clip at 11:37 is enough of dealbreaker to make me never watch the movie
My favorite take on Robin Hood to rewatch is actually the 2010 one from Ridley Scott. It gets a lot of hate but I very much enjoy it every time!
Man, I didn't even know this movie existed. But I gotta say, that style of medieval that looks modern actually looks interesting
The one-two punch of original & parody with Prince of Thieves & Men in Tights has hampered any subsequent production of Robin Hood because nothing can equal those, let alone the classic Erroll Flynn versions.
I grew up loving Robin Hood. In modern days, you're right. I don't know if it can hold up. It's because the story has been told. Robin Hood really doesn't have a lot to say. The story is good but very contained.
They should have explained it as a post-apocalyptic spin on the Robin Hood story.
I will argue that the archery and the set pieces were actually really freaking cool.
I like Disney Robin hood 😍 ☺️ 😌
I only remember this because of the Folding Ideas video calling it Zero Dark Loxley.
They tried to make Robin hood like batman and it doesn't work for that character
2:05 this subtle bash LOL
Do 2019 Hellboy
I really like these Videos
Another reason so many modern remakes/sequels fail is because they’re doing “Fast and Furiousization”. Why does every movie need some sort of big chase scene or elaborate heist scheme?
This came out six years ago? Damn, it really did come and go didn't it?
I thought it was older tbh
I got my wife to watch this movie just the other day and man is it a fun one to watch and say "what the fuck were they thinking?"
Thing about the budget, theaters keep about half and marketing isn't included, so "break even" actually means roughly double the budget. It's an extremely common mistake people make. Way, WAY more movies are technically bombs than people realize because studios hide the full cost and intake and profits/losses. It's also worse now because old models used to factor in DVD and Blu Ray sales and TV rights, but because everything goes to streaming for ??? money, the post theatrical money draw is a complete mystery box.
Lots of movies were duds in theaters that went on to become timeless classics and financial successes due to TV or DVD, ie Wizard of Oz, It's a Wonderful Life, Fight Club, Blade Runner. I don't think it happens as much with streaming.
You should check out the kids show "Maid Marian and her Merry Men", really really funny show. Loved it as a kid! Written by the same Tony Robinson, who worked on Blackadder.
My favorite Robin Hood is BBC's 2006 television serial; a delight to watch!
I can not stress another key factor in the dislike people have towards the two latest Robin Hoods: None of them are "normal" Robin Hood stories. Disney's Robin Hood and Prince of Thieves are more or less what you image when you think of a Robin Hood movie, the 2010 has like 5 minutes of Robin Hood doing Robin Hood stuff and the 2018 takes place in some weird mix between modern and medieval times.
dude i would LOVE for you to a video of Sleepless with Jamie Foxx, PLEASE
A modern, gangster adaptation of Robin Hood is a soild idea. They just didn't go all in.
oh yeeeah the writer from that King Arthur movie, i forgot about that joint. i meant to watch that years ago 😂
4:45 I read Ridley Scott’s Robin Hood was originally called “Nottingham”. It would have been about the Sheriff of Nottingham. He was a tragic anti-hero. A widowed, single father that does what he needs to do to support his iill daughter and mother. Robin Hood was planned to be a thuggish rogue. After a series of murders the sheriff uses 14th century forensics to find the killer. The only part of Nottingham that made it into Scott’s final cut was the battle at the castle.
My headcanon is that this movie is set in a post-apocalyptic far-future where everything is kinda medieval again. Sort of like The Last Knights from 2015.
You’re becoming more sassy in every video lol
This film deserves the sass lol