Yeah its honestly so good for dealing with crisis factions that spawn. Or if you want to send 3-4 armies up north to wipe out norsca and bring them back quickly when the crisis timer starts.
I like that even though Gelt is no longer the gunpowder focused Empire lord they still gave him unique buffs Hellstorm Rocket Batteries thanks to all the memes.
Nah, i will send his ass in a bodybag back to empire. Nothing of him will remain in Cathay. The last thing Cathay needs is pajama wearing Empire troops Even cathayan peseants look more badass that empire troops.
Good thing he gets that immunity to trespassing buff, otherwise an overprotective and slightly power hungry sheriff, and his idiotic and abusive crew, might draw first blood
Imagine if Gelt and his doomstack Gold Wizards charging in the enemy while T-posing saying "Fear The Gold"'. Even the chaos Daemons would be terrified.
It's almost a shame you'd probably have to spend 20 minutes hiding in trees gathering winds of magic before you could unleash a complete storm of gold from the skies
I imagine that the author of that fanfic where Gelt goes to Grand Cathay and ends up in a romance with Miao Ying is now screaming in glee about how his fanfic's becoming more and more canon.
Triumphant Homecoming might be one of the best minor mechanics in the series. being able to have that much variety in where you go is going to give you so many options.
Yeah, him and Tyrion could use a glow up, everyone else is pretty much fine though. (or at least fine enough that they dont need a rework on this scale)
@draconomega it's the old "wh2 base lords not having a campaign mechanic" thing that is catching up to them, compared to the DLC lords. They have fixed it now for the Empire by giving Franz/Volkmar(at WH3 launch) and Gelt their gimmick. Hopefully it's coming for HE as well. But beyond that, a race wide rework of influence to be more like the new prestige would be great too. Ironic, since prestige was mostly a hamstrung influence before!
Well. Embargo said you CAN show DLC units. Just not play as them. My video abided by those rules. However there were apparently hidden rules.... You CAN show DLC units (but not too much). ....**Looks at Indy's 20 minute video about Thunderbarges**. Cool this makes sense. xD
Imperial decree is awesome. I always played defensive as empire, kinda just going around helping other elector counts ot recapturing settlements and giving them back to counts. Not going on conquest anywhere until the empire is unified. (It’s in my idea what the empire army should do right? A force that works as reinforcements for lesser factions in confederation). Which gave massive bonuses in prestige and fielty so I never had to worry about those. The problem is, once you get over like 5 thousand prestige, it never goes down cause the most expensive actions cost 2000 per turn. And in the middle game I have tens of thousands that you have nothing to spend on. This thing finally gives a reason to have it and something to spend it on. Love it.
I thought Emanuelle von Liebewitz is the real elector count of Nuln I know Elspeth is her advisor but I really I she was added. Also huge props to the new elector count system we’re finally encouraged to actually spend and it will actually give something useful. And I can’t wait to play Gelt he’s basically Empire Teclis with his new campaign starting position
@@malekiththewitchking2799 yeah exactly but just like Boris Todbringer they should bring in more significant elector counts to have a campaign of their own
@@chookee1080 to put it simply there are many characters who are essentially the political leaders of a certain faction but have no real military presence or delegate it to another character for one reason or another. Emmanuelle is a aristocrat with zero ability to be on a battlefield and thats what Elspeth is for. Other examples is Lord Gnawdwell who is the ruler of Clan Mors but Queek is shown as its military leader(this also goes for all Skaven Clans btw) and Tyrion is who you play as but the Phoenix King and leader of the High Elves is Finubar.
Man that "triumphant homecoming" sounds like it is attributed to the experimental metal band called "imperial triumphant" where the band members all wear a golden mask.
Only just realized that Belthasar Gelt got reworked. Much as I love to play Norsca and Warriors of Chaos, Gelt was my first campaign clear and just felt unique and fun with how he was a Spellcasting lord who utilized Artillery to such an insane degree. It was just so hilarious seeing how he could field an army and say, "See that army of Greenskins over there? I don't want to."
the ‘Restoration’ action that instantly heals your entire army honestly seems overpowered, even if it costs a lot, and I wouldn’t be surprised if it got nerfed at some point
As someone who has never touched an empire campaign in the trilogy yet I'm absolutely baffled to learn that this isn't how it worked in the first place.
I really feel like Markus Wolfheart could have used a bit of an adjustment to his campaign mechanics once you get out of Lustria the increase to enemy strength and all stops making sense, being able to Confederate the empire is silly, and he should have a chance to get Elec state troops in some of his reinforcement supplies
Was initially not too happy with Gelt starting in Cathay, but the fact they gave you the option not only to return to the empire but seek out a place to start for yourself is AWESOME. Such a great idea that adds flavor and choice like nothing we’ve seen for the empire
How does the Elector Counts system work in an Empire Co-op? Can you still unlock state troops, runefangs etc. if your buddy is occupying Empire Provinces?
I think that since the empire is probably inspired by the holy Roman empire S in Solland should sound more like Z in zero, same as S in German word for the Sun (Sonne) .
Loving these changes and additions so far. Has me excited for the Slaanesh dlc, cause I'm definitely looking for some flavor for me Druchii and Asur lol
They should've just had Bathsalt Gelt start in control of the southern border princes. It would've been perfect, it gives the empire something to do after unifying, head south pick up Gelt, and continue south to get Volkmar the Grim, then sail to the new world to save the huntsman. Wtf is the empire doing inside of Cathay, and starting at war?
Gelt heard about the Wietcong giving Cathay trouble and decided to introduce them to the lore of Napalm. I'm 90% Gelt's new starting position was influenced by all the memes comparing him to Colonel Kilgore from Apocalypse Now. On a Meta level it's similar to the reasoning for Wulfhart's position in Lustria. Basically to give Empire players a change of scenery and new enemies to fight.
Do you still get the dilemmas that cost prestige or money? (Dilemmas that always seem to happen at the wrong time.) Or is prestige only spent using the new mechanics?
One small tweak needed is to have wood resources increase recruitment rank for halberdiers along with spearmen and archers. Once I can recruit halberdiers I don’t really recruit anymore spearmen. Also when you confederate a legendary lord you can have access to their origins campaign mechanics.
Never got into Empire before, this is gonna do it for me. Eslpeth looks like my kinda lord. Exact same thing happened to me for Wood Elves with their rework and The Sisters.
Thsy still need an update/overhaul of their roster to be more than just good enough for MP. Would also help if they got their detachments rule and were actually more cost effective (seeing how their numbers and costs are on par with elves).
Still really dumb that Gelt doesn't have Greater Arcane Conduit. He's supposed to be the most powerful non-chaos human wizard in the world, so why not? Also, gold wizard is a nice addition, but the Empire is still missing all eight of the generic Wizard Lords, as well as the Celestial Hurricanum. Colleges of Magic is still very much incomplete.
I really like that they rework older factions. I hope they give this treatment to some other factions that need it even more like vampirates or high elves.
@@darkomihajlovski3135 It's not about viability, you can win with any faction (IE). It's about mechanics and fun to play, outdated rosters (useless units) and lack of variety.
I don't know how useful this will be for the empire. It doesn't really matter but I've noticed when I'm playing any other faction besides Empire the Empire ends up getting crushed in the long game. Which makes sense lower wise but every once in awhile it'd be cool if the good guys didn't lose
He mentioned on another comment that the NDA allowed him to show but not play the new units. Turns out there were hidden rules about not showing the new units too much.
So, forgive me if I should already know this, but is there a way to get all six empire legendary heroes in one campaign without mods? Edit: I don’t actually know how to get Volkmar in the current build as Riekland. (probably not spelled correctly)
The ordertide is now so ridiculous, most 'Dark' faction campaigns simply can't go on over 200-300 turns. The whole of the old world is now a giant superpower of united Dwarves, Humans and HE or Tomb Kings. Same for lustria and the South wastes. Every Dark Elf or Vampire Coast campaign goes the same, you do well against immediate enemies, but ordertide becomes so massive, there is no way to beat it (Belakor and Changling campaigns are the only way I've been able to counter it by wiping them all out early.
It’s cool gelt gets something nice. Im just sad Tzzinse … chaos god of magic have such a hard time to get access to cataclysm spells. Gelt went from a meme to probably THE strongest wizard faction in game.
it sucks they never got around to improving Markus or Volkmar since they really suck, but I am hopeful modders can do things like adding the Marauder Chieftain mechanic to Markus's heroes.
I just wish they add option or code that let us make 40 units army like previous WH I and II. That way we can make a REAL army fighting against demons.
So say I’m playing as Karl Franz, if I confederate Elspeth do I get access to the Nuln gunnery school? I’m gonna say probably not, but I feel that should be a thing. I mean it’s still the empire.
Another change: the "Summon the Elector Counts" action now teleports all non garrisoned Elector Counts to Karl Franz location. Pretty cool!
Yeah its honestly so good for dealing with crisis factions that spawn. Or if you want to send 3-4 armies up north to wipe out norsca and bring them back quickly when the crisis timer starts.
1:40 You kinda skipped over that SUMMON THE ELECTOR COUNTS is changed from replenishing elector state troops to now being a deathstack summon.
Wow
Yeah that one's kinda cool, I imagine it'll be very useful if an endgame crisis is threatening to mess you up
Me: (stopped playing WH3 just before first DLC)
CA: "We've made changes to Empire Factions"
Me: (reinstalls WH3)
THE NATION CALLS!
Plus... hot scythe wielding death witch that has new gun tech.
Yes please
@@grilledleeks6514I just need a single Reiksguard heavy infantry then it will be perfect
reinstall and the DLC is not ready yet. sad
@@grilledleeks6514Hot ? How ? You can only see her face and hands , you need to get laid buddy.
I like that even though Gelt is no longer the gunpowder focused Empire lord they still gave him unique buffs Hellstorm Rocket Batteries thanks to all the memes.
Isnt elspeth the gun powder lord now?
@@hydreigon2709Who’s the gunpowder lord now?
@@SparKOps I thought it was you ?!
@@hydreigon2709 sad Hochland noises
So Gelt went to 'nam and there is a choice to end his tour and go home, or stay there. No matter what you choose a part of him will stay there tho.
It ain't me,it ain't me, I ain't no Elector Count's son, son!
Nah, i will send his ass in a bodybag back to empire. Nothing of him will remain in Cathay. The last thing Cathay needs is pajama wearing Empire troops
Even cathayan peseants look more badass that empire troops.
Good thing he gets that immunity to trespassing buff, otherwise an overprotective and slightly power hungry sheriff, and his idiotic and abusive crew, might draw first blood
"I will blur it for spoilers sake" lol I'm willing to bet at least 75% of us are also subscribed to The Great Book of Grudges
I bet Heir of Carthage too, and Turin, and Moon cookies as well 😆😂😂
and a few major kill as well
Same
So erm yeah
Truu
Sure am, I've been consuming ALL ToD I can find.
Imagine if Gelt and his doomstack Gold Wizards charging in the enemy while T-posing saying "Fear The Gold"'. Even the chaos Daemons would be terrified.
TasTE GoLd mAgIC!
It's almost a shame you'd probably have to spend 20 minutes hiding in trees gathering winds of magic before you could unleash a complete storm of gold from the skies
I imagine that the author of that fanfic where Gelt goes to Grand Cathay and ends up in a romance with Miao Ying is now screaming in glee about how his fanfic's becoming more and more canon.
Or, squeeing.
Sauce?
@@thesittingacheroraptor7565 I too demand sauce!
@@thesittingacheroraptor7565 The title is "Love is More Valuable Than Gold, Or So They Tell Me…" at ArchiveOfOurOwn I believe.
@@codenamegnetne8209 huh it was a half joke, but thanks man
Triumphant Homecoming might be one of the best minor mechanics in the series. being able to have that much variety in where you go is going to give you so many options.
At last!! They brought your standard Gold Order battle wizard!
Now finally won't feel like Balthazzar owns a monopoly of the Metal Lore!
The price of the Lore of Metal came crashing down.
I appreciate how much thought seems to have gone into these re-works of the older factions!
8:40 😂
What an addition to the Empire! Looks very nice! Puts Teclis to shame. Hopefully we get a HE rework with the eventual Slaanesh DLC!
Yeah, him and Tyrion could use a glow up, everyone else is pretty much fine though. (or at least fine enough that they dont need a rework on this scale)
@draconomega it's the old "wh2 base lords not having a campaign mechanic" thing that is catching up to them, compared to the DLC lords. They have fixed it now for the Empire by giving Franz/Volkmar(at WH3 launch) and Gelt their gimmick. Hopefully it's coming for HE as well. But beyond that, a race wide rework of influence to be more like the new prestige would be great too. Ironic, since prestige was mostly a hamstrung influence before!
Thank God you now start with Helmgart!!
This is definatly within the embargo this time..... isn't it?
Poor Zerkovich, I'm sure that CA has not been very consistent with their embargoes, because he is not the first to leak something innocently
What embargo?
@@anna-flora999The reveals time. He is saying it because yesterday big Z released a video showing the dlc units, and that wasn't allowed yet :b
@@draconomega ah, an embargo from CA, makes sense
Well. Embargo said you CAN show DLC units. Just not play as them. My video abided by those rules.
However there were apparently hidden rules.... You CAN show DLC units (but not too much). ....**Looks at Indy's 20 minute video about Thunderbarges**. Cool this makes sense. xD
Imperial decree is awesome. I always played defensive as empire, kinda just going around helping other elector counts ot recapturing settlements and giving them back to counts. Not going on conquest anywhere until the empire is unified.
(It’s in my idea what the empire army should do right? A force that works as reinforcements for lesser factions in confederation). Which gave massive bonuses in prestige and fielty so I never had to worry about those.
The problem is, once you get over like 5 thousand prestige, it never goes down cause the most expensive actions cost 2000 per turn. And in the middle game I have tens of thousands that you have nothing to spend on.
This thing finally gives a reason to have it and something to spend it on. Love it.
I thought Emanuelle von Liebewitz is the real elector count of Nuln I know Elspeth is her advisor but I really I she was added. Also huge props to the new elector count system we’re finally encouraged to actually spend and it will actually give something useful.
And I can’t wait to play Gelt he’s basically Empire Teclis with his new campaign starting position
Emmanuelle von Liebwitz is the elector countess of Wissenland, and countess of Nuln.
@@malekiththewitchking2799 yeah exactly but just like Boris Todbringer they should bring in more significant elector counts to have a campaign of their own
She's not here for the same reason Finubar isn't here, she's not a warrior.
@@chookee1080 to put it simply there are many characters who are essentially the political leaders of a certain faction but have no real military presence or delegate it to another character for one reason or another.
Emmanuelle is a aristocrat with zero ability to be on a battlefield and thats what Elspeth is for.
Other examples is Lord Gnawdwell who is the ruler of Clan Mors but Queek is shown as its military leader(this also goes for all Skaven Clans btw)
and Tyrion is who you play as but the Phoenix King and leader of the High Elves is Finubar.
Makes me think:
Did Emmanuelle ever hold the Runicfang of Wissenland?
Man that "triumphant homecoming" sounds like it is attributed to the experimental metal band called "imperial triumphant" where the band members all wear a golden mask.
I love that band and I now love them even more with the Gelt head canon
Naughty boy posting new units up 👀, (thank you though)
yeah - i paused the vid before the dwarfs and when i came back,.. :(
I had time to download that video
@@sjdjjsjsjs3991 just rub my face in it why dont you :P
I knew I wasnt crazy! Lucky for me, I got see the video before it was erased xD
@@stephenlyon1358same, i thought i was dreaming later cause i went to sleep
Finally Empire looks polished
Only just realized that Belthasar Gelt got reworked. Much as I love to play Norsca and Warriors of Chaos, Gelt was my first campaign clear and just felt unique and fun with how he was a Spellcasting lord who utilized Artillery to such an insane degree. It was just so hilarious seeing how he could field an army and say, "See that army of Greenskins over there? I don't want to."
the ‘Restoration’ action that instantly heals your entire army honestly seems overpowered, even if it costs a lot, and I wouldn’t be surprised if it got nerfed at some point
Clan Eshin has it as a Rite, and it is stupidly overpowered
As someone who has never touched an empire campaign in the trilogy yet I'm absolutely baffled to learn that this isn't how it worked in the first place.
Zerk not knowing how to say Cassus Belli really shows he's never played a paradox game 😂
And that he was never taught Latin.
His pronunciation of “Machinations” and “secessionists” also hurt my ears.
Who’s hyped to start their 100th campaign as Franz because I sure am!
There was a showcase video for the Thrones of Decay's units here, but it's gone now. How dat happened?
However, he let his tongue slip, Zerk
He might have not been allowed to reveal that yet xD
I really feel like Markus Wolfheart could have used a bit of an adjustment to his campaign mechanics once you get out of Lustria the increase to enemy strength and all stops making sense, being able to Confederate the empire is silly, and he should have a chance to get Elec state troops in some of his reinforcement supplies
Was initially not too happy with Gelt starting in Cathay, but the fact they gave you the option not only to return to the empire but seek out a place to start for yourself is AWESOME. Such a great idea that adds flavor and choice like nothing we’ve seen for the empire
How does the Elector Counts system work in an Empire Co-op? Can you still unlock state troops, runefangs etc. if your buddy is occupying Empire Provinces?
Thank goodness you blurred it! It was almost spoiled! Hahaha
I think that since the empire is probably inspired by the holy Roman empire S in Solland should sound more like Z in zero, same as S in German word for the Sun (Sonne) .
Loving these changes and additions so far. Has me excited for the Slaanesh dlc, cause I'm definitely looking for some flavor for me Druchii and Asur lol
"Summon the Elector count" now call for reinforcement, and a fellow Empire count pod will Land next to you
They should've just had Bathsalt Gelt start in control of the southern border princes. It would've been perfect, it gives the empire something to do after unifying, head south pick up Gelt, and continue south to get Volkmar the Grim, then sail to the new world to save the huntsman. Wtf is the empire doing inside of Cathay, and starting at war?
Gelt heard about the Wietcong giving Cathay trouble and decided to introduce them to the lore of Napalm. I'm 90% Gelt's new starting position was influenced by all the memes comparing him to Colonel Kilgore from Apocalypse Now. On a Meta level it's similar to the reasoning for Wulfhart's position in Lustria. Basically to give Empire players a change of scenery and new enemies to fight.
Do you still get the dilemmas that cost prestige or money? (Dilemmas that always seem to happen at the wrong time.) Or is prestige only spent using the new mechanics?
One small tweak needed is to have wood resources increase recruitment rank for halberdiers along with spearmen and archers. Once I can recruit halberdiers I don’t really recruit anymore spearmen. Also when you confederate a legendary lord you can have access to their origins campaign mechanics.
No trespass is huge for franz !
3 games in and they still can't do custom elector counts for Stirland, Averland, Nordland, Talabheim or Hochland
I think if you take an empire territory as Markus and Volkmar, you get to use the elector count system
Never got into Empire before, this is gonna do it for me. Eslpeth looks like my kinda lord.
Exact same thing happened to me for Wood Elves with their rework and The Sisters.
Your unit overview videos are what motivate me to actually buy DLC, should've kept it up to get more pre-orders
Thsy still need an update/overhaul of their roster to be more than just good enough for MP.
Would also help if they got their detachments rule and were actually more cost effective (seeing how their numbers and costs are on par with elves).
I'm late, but good overview. Only thing I was wondering about that wasn't covered was whether the generic lords/heroes got overhauled.
Can Karl Franz actually ally with other empire factions now? Before he could only sign non aggression pacts and Confederate
Yes you can.
@@Nikolas5842 nice!
Anyone else watching the previous video when it was taken down? Hopefully it was Zerk and everything is okay
Imagine if weapons and armor showed on the models and changed animations. That would be an insane amount of work though.
Wait, what the F is „summon the elector counts“? I have over 1500 hour‘s in WH3 and never noticed that button😮
8:44 I hope CA doesn't fix this because whats a better way to demoralize your opponent than to A pose on a horse?
Still really dumb that Gelt doesn't have Greater Arcane Conduit. He's supposed to be the most powerful non-chaos human wizard in the world, so why not?
Also, gold wizard is a nice addition, but the Empire is still missing all eight of the generic Wizard Lords, as well as the Celestial Hurricanum. Colleges of Magic is still very much incomplete.
Thanks for the video. Very informative.
I had to stop and check that it wasn't April 1st!
Did anyone else see the unit showcase video before it went down?
did warrior priest heroes get buffed i really wanted some two hammer options or better support options with warrior priest?
As an empire player, I am so happy too have all this! Fuck this is going to be fun!
Me who has just started an empire campaign 2 weeks ago and now can't use nothing of this:
😢
I really like that they rework older factions. I hope they give this treatment to some other factions that need it even more like vampirates or high elves.
I get vampires but why high elfs? there pretty good tho they can definitely use some new mechanics for their starter lords
@@darkomihajlovski3135 It's not about viability, you can win with any faction (IE). It's about mechanics and fun to play, outdated rosters (useless units) and lack of variety.
Holy crap the update is a breath of fresh air. Campaign 100 Franz lets go!
so whats going on with the other 2 legendary lords? the huntsmatial and volkmar?
is there a metal wizzard between the capitan and the jade wizzard?
I don't know how useful this will be for the empire. It doesn't really matter but I've noticed when I'm playing any other faction besides Empire the Empire ends up getting crushed in the long game. Which makes sense lower wise but every once in awhile it'd be cool if the good guys didn't lose
This dlc i wait. Empire and Dawi are my favorite races. Cant wait to play for them with this update!
For my first decree, Gotrek and Felix are pardoned of all crimes, Felix is elector count of Ostermark, window taxes are doubled.
8:40 Amazing! XD
where is all DLC units video, stumbled on embargo?
He mentioned on another comment that the NDA allowed him to show but not play the new units. Turns out there were hidden rules about not showing the new units too much.
So, forgive me if I should already know this, but is there a way to get all six empire legendary heroes in one campaign without mods?
Edit: I don’t actually know how to get Volkmar in the current build as Riekland. (probably not spelled correctly)
This is awesome!
One population surplus is pretty cool !
were unit video?
Got axed, he probably didnt have permission to show that yet xD
Why doesn't Gelt get the imperial authority for integrating the Empire too? But to be honest this magic mechanism is quite awesome
The ordertide is now so ridiculous, most 'Dark' faction campaigns simply can't go on over 200-300 turns. The whole of the old world is now a giant superpower of united Dwarves, Humans and HE or Tomb Kings. Same for lustria and the South wastes. Every Dark Elf or Vampire Coast campaign goes the same, you do well against immediate enemies, but ordertide becomes so massive, there is no way to beat it (Belakor and Changling campaigns are the only way I've been able to counter it by wiping them all out early.
Sounds like a good rework of the Empire. My prayers have been answered :)
I screamed of relief when I heard about the fort
Finally. I love every bit of it
Not the greatsword beard changing colors mid step lol
Did they rework the general and arch lector lords or are they still useless?
1:45 Espleth voice reveal??
It’s cool gelt gets something nice.
Im just sad Tzzinse … chaos god of magic have such a hard time to get access to cataclysm spells.
Gelt went from a meme to probably THE strongest wizard faction in game.
No Empire dragon?
With what they did with Gelt, I'm gonna need new pants
Gold Wizard is also a Master of Horse... what an absolute chad! LOL 🤣
When does this all go active ?
So its now almost impossible to jabe all the empire LL join Franz withoit mods 😢
When does it come out?
belt campaign looks great
Hello, does someone know if the New skill are going to apply on m'y ongoing Gelt campain and if i'll be able to recruit Elspeh if i purchase the DLC ?
Sorry but your save is gona be broken and youll have to start a new game
so when exactly this DLC coming?
Yeah this is good , but this mods can do it also , I expected something more like new heroes (like valten + Ludwig...)+ rework of emperor appearance
The masters of the lore of T-posing within the ranks of the Empire? Preposterous!
it sucks they never got around to improving Markus or Volkmar since they really suck, but I am hopeful modders can do things like adding the Marauder Chieftain mechanic to Markus's heroes.
What happened to your yesterday's video? Had to take it down due to spoilers?
Thank god these changes are awesome. It just feels right.
I just wish they add option or code that let us make 40 units army like previous WH I and II. That way we can make a REAL army fighting against demons.
Soo when do we get the rework for high elves to make them feel like the best mages CA?
And what about confederating with Gelt after rework, if you play for Karl, for example?
“WELCOME TO CATHAY GENTLEMEN”-Balthasar Gelt
*Sighs and starts up another Karl campaign*. Question for all, will you have Karl grab the crown?
Gelt being moved super far away really blows
So say I’m playing as Karl Franz, if I confederate Elspeth do I get access to the Nuln gunnery school? I’m gonna say probably not, but I feel that should be a thing. I mean it’s still the empire.
Gold Wizard: Master of Horses😂
They should update the voice lines for the empire and dwarves
Casus Belli, Ca-sus (Amoogus) Belly. Somebody needs to play more Stellaris were we all learn that term.