My hypothesis without seeing or throwing the disc: If thrown with the same speed and torque, it flies exactly the same no matter where you hold it. However, if you throw it the same way every time without accounting for the rim sizes, then those differing rim sizes will lead to differing torques on the disc out of the hand, leading to the illusion of different stabilities.
In theory different rim size may change your grip strength and by that way lead to different flies, but looks like size difference is pretty small and probably not affect.
I also wonder if the difference in weight on either side of the disc makes any difference. It seems to me that it could be possible for a higher weight on the edge of the disc opposite from where it's gripped could cause a slightly higher spin rate, resulting in slightly different flight characteristics than if the disc was gripped from the heavier side.
@@ryanfaber9384 Good point. I might require for effort, to get more spin, when the thick side is further from your rotation point. But in the end, the rotational inertial should be the same for both, so I'm still skeptical. Attaching a tech disc/game proofer to the disc would be a good way to check the spin.
It's a weird move by TP, but they're gonna sell a billion of them. Gonna be like the Tilt or Rollo, but so much bigger because everyone is gonna be able to throw it.
This is what’s missing is the professional side of disc golf. FUN! Throwing discs should just be fun and discs like this keep me excited to go out and throw more!
the move would be to get a techdisc made out of one of these and see if your rotation (or possibly speed) changed based on where you hold it. my bet would be that it would.
My best guess is that it's more in how you grip and release it differently, theoretically at the same speed, spin, and angle it should fly the same regardless of how it starts, but holding a different part of the rim will lead to it coming out of your hand with more or less spin, both from how much skin contact you have with the disc, and how the disc catches the air during your throwing motion. Probably very hard to get it close to being as consistent as just having two separate discs with the flight characteristics you want. But a cool concept regardless, and for some specific shots like that tomahawk, you might want a disc that flies a certain way, but it's hard to get the proper grip on a uniform disc that gives you that flight.
That thing was looking like a real Sus McGee at first, but it started coming around towards the end. SIKE, that thing is crazy. Can't wait to dislocate my shoulder.
My hypothesis is that the gyroscopic affect will differ depending on where you grip. Gripping from the thinner side puts more torque on the disc because the thicker rim (more weight) is on the outside and vice versa.
I wonder if it flies different because it’s weighted differently. So if you hold the thin side and whip the thick side around when you throw it, it’ll get spinning faster than if you hold it on the thick side. But I think I would have to hold it to see if that makes sense.
I won't be getting this personally, but if I were to I would mark out and number locations on the underside so I could reliably line up on a certain part of the disc.
Haven't read the comments, but I predict you are getting more spin holding the thin side when thrown backhand. This could be because of the weight of the thicker side whipping around your hand.
y'all were bending it to be more under stable by making it more Domey. I use the epic and you need to bend it up a bit more and i have gotten it to go 500 before. i used you play baseball as well. So excited for the e.t.! also the epic is a lighter disc so wonder if the et was lighter if you could achieve the same type of flight, because at the end of the flight it almost looks like it wants to turn at the end.
@@MDestroyerX the Ozone is a super fun disc. I feel like it’s flippier than it’s -3 turn. I really enjoy it and it’s a fun backhand disc but I’ve also had some luck with the sidearm hyzer flip too. This one seems like it’s gonna be more stable. So really depends on what you’ve got in your bag. I’m definitely picking one up as soon as it hits my local brick n mortar!
@@DolphaysDiscGolf I have a ozone I am also very new to disc golf and play primary with a for mid range a shark distance a photon or DXdestroyer and a putter a nomad
@@MDestroyerXozone is a great beginner driver. Probably stay away from the ET for now. Just keep throwing and slowly add discs to your bag. You’ve got a great set for a beginner
@@DolphaysDiscGolf I am up to like 18 discs (mostly found) and currently play mostly at a place called fort Washington disc golf (silver) and I average 4 over par I used to average 16 over a few months ago
I live in DFW area also, it’d be awesome to see you out there making a video! Or even better, if we could do a 1v1 at a course of your choice! Love Fritz park, very forgiving yet technical course. The hole that you birdied smells terrible 😂
The centroid of the angular moment of inertia (sort of the center of mass) relative to the pivot point (your hand) changing will change the rotation speed because of the way that you throw discs. Flight speed of your hand might not change but the rate of rotation will change.
The center of mass will be the same. But if you were throwing a hammer from the end of the handle vs throwing the head, I imagine youd throw with much more rotation. I would expect higher RPMs when thrown from the thinner rim.
since the TP extraterrestrial and the aerobie epic are both PDGA legal, should I play a tourney with only them???😳
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Definitely
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That would be a sick vid
My hypothesis without seeing or throwing the disc:
If thrown with the same speed and torque, it flies exactly the same no matter where you hold it. However, if you throw it the same way every time without accounting for the rim sizes, then those differing rim sizes will lead to differing torques on the disc out of the hand, leading to the illusion of different stabilities.
This 100%
In theory different rim size may change your grip strength and by that way lead to different flies, but looks like size difference is pretty small and probably not affect.
I also wonder if the difference in weight on either side of the disc makes any difference. It seems to me that it could be possible for a higher weight on the edge of the disc opposite from where it's gripped could cause a slightly higher spin rate, resulting in slightly different flight characteristics than if the disc was gripped from the heavier side.
@@ryanfaber9384 Good point. I might require for effort, to get more spin, when the thick side is further from your rotation point.
But in the end, the rotational inertial should be the same for both, so I'm still skeptical.
Attaching a tech disc/game proofer to the disc would be a good way to check the spin.
I like your theory, but this is scaled-down Aerobie Epic.
This should be fun! Only for the Phun Guys and Gals.
It's a weird move by TP, but they're gonna sell a billion of them. Gonna be like the Tilt or Rollo, but so much bigger because everyone is gonna be able to throw it.
Yo, this might actually be revolutionary
Love the editing and work you put into these vids, they're so entertaining to watch
Bro, I am the guy from the clip in the epic vid. Love the epic disc, was looking for alt discs and see you referencing me......wild. Hit me up!!
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Not even in the middle yet, just wanted to say thank you for creating disc golf content that is so grabbing for younger audiences and so fun in nature
This is what’s missing is the professional side of disc golf. FUN! Throwing discs should just be fun and discs like this keep me excited to go out and throw more!
😂😂the putt he kept showing went in. The video cuts
Somebody got some splainin to do
@CIA would love to know your thoughts on this
He needed to drag out the video longer, he couldn’t have a birdie on the first hole!
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Lmao dave woth the course gar, never seen that before😂
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@trashpandadiscgolf do we have a release date yet??
Please take my money already!
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This thing is SICK. Def changes a bit depending on where you hold it. BANGER as always, Mr. Milly
the move would be to get a techdisc made out of one of these and see if your rotation (or possibly speed) changed based on where you hold it. my bet would be that it would.
My best guess is that it's more in how you grip and release it differently, theoretically at the same speed, spin, and angle it should fly the same regardless of how it starts, but holding a different part of the rim will lead to it coming out of your hand with more or less spin, both from how much skin contact you have with the disc, and how the disc catches the air during your throwing motion. Probably very hard to get it close to being as consistent as just having two separate discs with the flight characteristics you want. But a cool concept regardless, and for some specific shots like that tomahawk, you might want a disc that flies a certain way, but it's hard to get the proper grip on a uniform disc that gives you that flight.
Chainstar does what it wants. Never the same, sometimes a good vibe, sometimes not.
That thing was looking like a real Sus McGee at first, but it started coming around towards the end. SIKE, that thing is crazy. Can't wait to dislocate my shoulder.
How much will it cost?
My hypothesis is that the gyroscopic affect will differ depending on where you grip. Gripping from the thinner side puts more torque on the disc because the thicker rim (more weight) is on the outside and vice versa.
Probably getting less spin when holding it on the thick side vs thin side which would explain why it’s more stable that way
disc is spooky... I'm in.
We need a MackTown J-Milly collab!
I wonder if it flies different because it’s weighted differently. So if you hold the thin side and whip the thick side around when you throw it, it’ll get spinning faster than if you hold it on the thick side. But I think I would have to hold it to see if that makes sense.
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I won't be getting this personally, but if I were to I would mark out and number locations on the underside so I could reliably line up on a certain part of the disc.
Haven't read the comments, but I predict you are getting more spin holding the thin side when thrown backhand. This could be because of the weight of the thicker side whipping around your hand.
watching you miss putts makes me feel better about my round of disc golf today lol I did so bad
y'all were bending it to be more under stable by making it more Domey. I use the epic and you need to bend it up a bit more and i have gotten it to go 500 before. i used you play baseball as well. So excited for the e.t.! also the epic is a lighter disc so wonder if the et was lighter if you could achieve the same type of flight, because at the end of the flight it almost looks like it wants to turn at the end.
Oh sick New Jmilly always gets ya stoked to toss!
cone on J-Milly, you're an engineer. you know that velocity and speed aren't the same thing. otherwise, great video as always.
I might pick one of these up but idk what is it best at and would u recommend getting it over something like a ozone
@@MDestroyerX the Ozone is a super fun disc. I feel like it’s flippier than it’s -3 turn. I really enjoy it and it’s a fun backhand disc but I’ve also had some luck with the sidearm hyzer flip too.
This one seems like it’s gonna be more stable. So really depends on what you’ve got in your bag. I’m definitely picking one up as soon as it hits my local brick n mortar!
@@DolphaysDiscGolf I have a ozone I am also very new to disc golf and play primary with a for mid range a shark distance a photon or DXdestroyer and a putter a nomad
@@MDestroyerXozone is a great beginner driver. Probably stay away from the ET for now. Just keep throwing and slowly add discs to your bag. You’ve got a great set for a beginner
@@DolphaysDiscGolf I am up to like 18 discs (mostly found) and currently play mostly at a place called fort Washington disc golf (silver) and I average 4 over par I used to average 16 over a few months ago
Need to get a Techdisc on one of these. I bet the spin changes depending on which side you're holding
I live in DFW area also, it’d be awesome to see you out there making a video! Or even better, if we could do a 1v1 at a course of your choice! Love Fritz park, very forgiving yet technical course.
The hole that you birdied smells terrible 😂
So I checked the web page and it says “for public release August 5th, 2024”. So that’s pretty hype.
Just started getting into disc golf and was wondering what would be a good fairway for me
Flippy vs Stable depending on what part of the rim I hold? Guess I won't need 32 discs in my bag anymore! I'm all in on throwing weird stuff!
What camera you use for your disc golf videos?
where do you get your hats?
they are dropping august 1st 👀
What does the max distance compare to? 9/10/11?
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I am 5 hours late 😭
Jmilly = epic
I think the epicyclic design of the Epic and E.T. are very similar and that's why he keeps comparing the two.
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Nice setup
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The putt on 1☠️
I think you cant get as much spin when you hold the thick side. That might be the reason it flew different.
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you made the birdy on the first hole
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slow it down on the first hole put and he makes it the guys hat changes directions. why?
when's the next in the bag🎒
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p.s. we have the same name
thanks for new vid
Sp00ky vid. Got scared.
J milly has not posted in so long 😢😢😢
Epic
I wan to seet the thumber
EPIC was great for thumber as well.
I did not know that Jessie was going there. Show me a thumber please.
Holding the disc on the different rims won't affect the flight because the disc would spin and fly the same.
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It is unlikely to spin the same
The centroid of the angular moment of inertia (sort of the center of mass) relative to the pivot point (your hand) changing will change the rotation speed because of the way that you throw discs. Flight speed of your hand might not change but the rate of rotation will change.
The center of mass will be the same. But if you were throwing a hammer from the end of the handle vs throwing the head, I imagine youd throw with much more rotation.
I would expect higher RPMs when thrown from the thinner rim.
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wraith or grace?
Imagine Jake wolf throwing the epic on a tomahawk 🤔🤯
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