it was never actually approved, the makers claimed it was, wouldnt remove the marking saying it was, and was actually sued for continuing to claim it was.... i have one LMAO
I met the creator of the turbo putt, Steve Pearson, at his factory near Orlando. He gave me a box of second quality discs to try. I have a turbo putt from him, plus a Raging Inferno, with the dimple technology. My buddy swears that the T bone will get him out of anything. Sadly, we lost Steve to an aneurism. He also made one of my favorite discs, the Scream. It is kind of floppy so it will flip over and roll if you throw in wrong, but no other disc flies as far when I get it right.
I used to have a couple Grooves back in the 2000's. I had a similar disc called a Monarch, that was a fairway driver I think, and it also had a groove in the outer rim.
Absolutely loved the Turbo Putt. it was useful for getting up and over near objects because you could just pitch it and it would kinda sail out of the top of the arc like a disc schould.
I have a ching MOJO putter which is my go to putter, it has thumb grooves all around the outer edge and is slightly off center, I always get told that it is the weirdest disc they have seen...now I can point them to this video as it did not make the list
Great video! So sad to see Ching Discs omitted from this video. The Mojo/Juju, Oracle, Precision, Genesis, and Velocity all being notable in their design. All the discs were designed by the designer of the Skill-Shot basket that Innova still makes and the dye sumblimation process that Innova used.
I also found a Champion Groove in some water lol. It actually threw ok but I didn't keep it. Saw a Turbo Putt at the pro shop and held it but didn't try it or buy it. Thought about it but didn't. I have an Epic but don't bag it. Pretty much a useless disc in my opinion. I do bag the Tilt though. It comes in handy for certain situations. My most understable disc is my 133g #1 driver. It's also beat to hell but still flies as good as it did when it was brand new. Great for low power hyzer flip/turnovers.
I got a rainbow groove for christmas and I lost it (guess where) in Florida. I don't think it would have ended up in water as I threw it at "The Quarry" north of tampa and the wind took it way out over the trees. I've also since changed my phone number so it's well and truly gone. Cool disc though and I did enjoy it.
Love everyone sharing their Quest discs that didn’t get mentioned! I found a T Bone in a used bin one time and instantly had to buy it. Thing has a super pop top, almost conical and its main feature is a dimpled underside of the rim like a golf ball Claims to have 10 glide 😂
The gripe most people have with the Aerobie Epic has nothing to do with the “tuning” aspect, there are other PDGA discs that can do this. The issue is that over 90% of players lack the power it takes to use it to its potential. If you throw an overhand, it will do a full flip at the top of the flight and continue to glide, making it possible to get 500+ out of it with very little skill. But that’s only achievable if you can throw insanely hard, harder than most people could achieve even with practice. I bought one as a novelty disc about 15 years ago and quickly realized I could tomahawk it further than I could throw any of my backhand drivers, and it became my go-to for all holes over 400 feet.
10 meter brick is weirdest & worst disc I have tried. I had thrown all but those insert ones. Sinus are amazing. Missilen had the hex grid texture and flies great
The new Doomsday Discs Land Mine is a pretty odd disc.It literally feels like a lid to a can.But it does fly pretty well.Not the craziest disc ever but a strange design and feel nonetheless.
I don’t know if its weird enough for this list, but I have the elevation koi and people think its really bizarre because its super floppy. If you throw it hard enough into the side of the basket, it can bend through the holes and go in which as of 2022 counts as a good shot. Very few discs out there that are flexible enough to do that
My Gumbputt and BlowFly 2 can probably do that. While holding the Gumbputt with my backhand grip I can flick my wrist and have the disc slap the back of my hand.
Kastaplast Rask is so much fun to throw. I rarely use it seriously, but am really glad I have one. I mostly use it for super-sharp corners or for making bets with friends.
I actually bag two Kastaplsat Rask. Once beaten in they fly pretty nice for shots where you need a fast disc to drop kinda fast at the end of flight or a fast disc that won't skip like a distance driver.
I remember when the epic came out. the funny thing about it is the tuning explanation on the beck is actually opposite of the truth lol. When the turbo putt came out I remember they had their booth set up at the BG open with stacks of them with a sign that said "pdga approval applied for!" lol
I have a Turbo Putt... There's an event in Minnesota(it was a yearly event) and every year it was a different flying "disc"... It's called the Moir Mystery Madness, and the year they had the Turbo Putt I was in an I Walk boot/crutch with a broken foot... Fun disc to throw...
I throw the Sinus inside of 200’ on backhand. It’s very over stable. I bag one for putting, one for throwing and have 4 more in the backup box. Never play without it. I threw an epic back in the day Throw it straight up on a thumber and it would flatten out and glide forever. One disc you might like is the Prometheus by Salient. A high speed driver with a 23mm width 😮 Fun video 🎉
Altough the hype around Sinus har cooled of because of other os approach discs within Trilogy its still a very popular mold and found in high ranked players bag. Nikko used to bag them with great result. Feldberg may not be a MPO dominant player anymore but its still one mold from L64 that he wont take out of his mixed bag. And I also bag both the AP & SP myself ;)
As a player with stupidly accurate tomahawks (I got the hand of them and threw them for like two years as my primary drive before I learned to backhand properly) I love my Epics! Now that I can backhand drive well, I usually only reach for it when confronted with a strong head wind. In those conditions, I actually drive my farthest (YES into a headwind I drive my farthest) because the Epic can either just continue to corkscrew, or barrel roll once before leveling off and gliding out like a backhand drive drive, but from 50ft up, depending on how you bend it before throwing.
Forgot the Innova Condor as it is a 200 Gram max diameter ROC that Yes is PDGA approved since that came out roughly 5 years before I started playeing. The other big one from Innova is the Nova missing as that is so odd with the over mold design. Then you forgot the Monach a more loved disc then similar current Champion Groove most by those who like Innova discs. The other main Arobie disc back when the Disc golf discs were made was the Arrow putter, often used as a roller disc by those who did not use them as uphill downhill putters beuause they should have had a negative glide to the disc mold. Also, you do see the Sinus on the Pro/former National tour especially on the Silver Series, a few of the Latitude 64 or other brands made 100% by Latitude 64 sponsored players do use the disc due to the glide being crappier then what the brand says especially with a worn in puddle top and this works well an approach disc.
I saw a guy putting with the Sinus a few weekends ago and I thought he added those grip strips on himself! Cool to know it's the actual design of the disc.
I know someone who owns a Groove. He hates it but won't give it up. I've borrowed it for a few shots, and I've had the most success using it as a thumber and it rolls quite well. But perhaps it's proof how inconsistent their production runs were. ...A disc I own that has a similar behavior is the Prodigy X3. But it definitely doesn't thumb as far as that Innova Groove.
I actually turbo putt a lot. My regular putting is ass, and I am just somehow better at turbos. Bought a Quest set just for the turbo putter. Hated using it. Went back to turbo putting my DX Aviar. The knurled edge is nice, but that weird spiral in the middle makes it come off my hand all off angle.
The creators of the Ozone Discs Andro C are locals to the disc golf club that I am a part of. I keep 3 of the Andro C's in my bag at all time. Great discs but unfortunately they are OOP.
I have an Epic. Got it when they came out. Could never get it to fly very well backhand or forehand. Eventually, about a year later, I found the true beauty with the disc...overhand. It sits on my wall now
The groove you found in Florida didn't happen to be green and in Estero was it lol? I found one with no name, tried it out a few times, and chucked it into the water. Got it back and promptly threw it right back in the water. It was garbage lol
i watched someone tune an Aerobie Epic and throw a tomahawk which flattened out mid flight about 980' once it landed. theres a reason they approved it then yanked the approval shortly after
The Long Ranger was given away by the case at Morley Field S. D. With max hyzer it would turn into a roller as the only way to get any distance. Go for getting you into trouble 😈
Ive been trying to find a turbo putt with the ramped ridge for a while now. You can find the newer ones with the more perdendicular ridge, but the ramped one looks amazing to throw
Yooo I have had both turbos till I gifted them to a buddy that's his prime style now wall hangers,but I have a 10 meter brick and yes I putt with it hahaha
The monarch by Innova has a weird groove in the lip too, quest had one called the wheel made for rollers , I have the turbo putt it's fun for the back yard
Do a bit more research. The groove is infamous because there's no consistency in the various runs of production. The epic is supposed to somersault like someone else mentioned, the m5 was retooled to become the m3 etc.
still have an epic it skips so far left i use it for specialty shots that need to skip 90 degrees left, still have a groove but use my monarch more, i should mention i am older and bought these in the early 2000s when they came out
Nobody ever addresses the wheel, one of the worst roller discs ever (which was designed as a roller) actually flew decent on a regular throw and would just stick to the ground.
I love my Innova Monarch which is the "little brother" to the groove. It's an under stable disc with a low profile rim that I do pretty good as a less than amateur, especially for a forehand throw.
I lost my monarch but it's a great disc. The love I have for that disc can only me be matched by my hatred of the groove. For the life of me I can't get that thing to fly worth a damn
You didn’t mention discrafts version of the groove called the wave but they all flew different one waaay understable and the next one so over stable it might as well be a flick lol
I bought a driver and a putter that were made by Cheng, and they have grooves on top for where you’re supposed to put your thumb. I dont know anyone else who used one or had one lol
Quest AT was the brand. Also, the 10 meter putter that orginal was a stiff mold at stiffest allowable tolerances that type of plastic got stiffer over time to the point of shattering and even just cold temps not yet frezing or hitting a tree would do thos, then when discs were found in St Louis Dumpster behind Gateway, the molds were dumped there the new owner made the discs in Beloit Illinois/near there it became a disc as floppy as an Aerobe Squdgie or what ever that floppy Aerobe catch disc was called, it was the floppiest PDGA approved disc golf disc on the market ever, floppier then the also odd Steady Ed Special Discs from DGA, the Blowfly/II, the Gumputt, Gumputt Driver, and oop Gumputt putter that was a more grippy plastic Gumputt almost like eraser plasric from Gateway. The 10 Meter Putter made it so the PDGA had to imediatly write in rules so a mold could not have that center weight or made rules so a mold could not be made that way. Same thing happend with Areobie Epic change was made to rules so offset inner rims could not be made on a mold.
i bought a turbo putter last year and using that thing is incredibly infuriating
Could have mentioned that throwing the Epic overhand causes it to somersault midair and end up flying normally halfway through the flight
Thats what i used to use the tilt for when i first started the sport. It was a pretty decent tomahawk disc.
Used to have a local guy that would make them barrel-roll twice and bomb them like 450
@@mech0p why were you using a tilt to start playing disc golf lol
@@OWEN_SHEPHERD no idea why i said tilt i mean epic lol
Forgot the latitude missellen, discraft deuce, kasta berg, innova monarch, discraft rattler, loft hydrodgen, anything quest AT
A few more interesting ones are the Lattitude 64 Opto Hex technology on both the Rakuten and the Missilen.
Another crazy disc design by Quest was The Wheel, specifically designed for rollers.
it was never actually approved, the makers claimed it was, wouldnt remove the marking saying it was, and was actually sued for continuing to claim it was.... i have one LMAO
I met the creator of the turbo putt, Steve Pearson, at his factory near Orlando. He gave me a box of second quality discs to try. I have a turbo putt from him, plus a Raging Inferno, with the dimple technology. My buddy swears that the T bone will get him out of anything. Sadly, we lost Steve to an aneurism. He also made one of my favorite discs, the Scream. It is kind of floppy so it will flip over and roll if you throw in wrong, but no other disc flies as far when I get it right.
The epic is pretty awesome, met a guy who'd tomahawk it and it would level out at 40+ feet and carry for about 450+ feet. It was crazy to watch.
Lol I’m one of those guys who can chuck thts thing. The best way to do it is to throw it very high and hard
What shape was it molded to? Like extremely overstable? Or... what?
Yup, crazy for that!!!
The Innova Monarch also has a groove like the Groove disc. :)
I used to have a couple Grooves back in the 2000's. I had a similar disc called a Monarch, that was a fairway driver I think, and it also had a groove in the outer rim.
Monarchs are so straight. Grooves bomb. I have multiple of both.
My dad loves his monarch, I've bought him 3 because he throws them in the watet
I think we are still in the 2000s timetravler.
i really like ur content, u should get more views
Absolutely loved the Turbo Putt. it was useful for getting up and over near objects because you could just pitch it and it would kinda sail out of the top of the arc like a disc schould.
The Innova Groove was my very 1st distance driver and I bought it like 13 years ago and I still have it and I love it lol
Missed the Blowfly
I had a Groove, best disc I ever owned, heard that no groove is like another one, so havent picked up a new one, think i won the plastic lottery
I have a ching MOJO putter which is my go to putter, it has thumb grooves all around the outer edge and is slightly off center, I always get told that it is the weirdest disc they have seen...now I can point them to this video as it did not make the list
The Andro-C doesn't have the insertable ring. It's just a fast mid or slow fairway. I've thrown them a ton.
Great video! So sad to see Ching Discs omitted from this video. The Mojo/Juju, Oracle, Precision, Genesis, and Velocity all being notable in their design. All the discs were designed by the designer of the Skill-Shot basket that Innova still makes and the dye sumblimation process that Innova used.
used to love the mojo
I just checked my Velocity and JuJu, apparently at the time their "Technology" was patent pending called "Acceleration Contours"
I loved my velocity. I still have a gummy Juju. Impossible to putt with it.
what about the discraft pulse?
I also found a Champion Groove in some water lol. It actually threw ok but I didn't keep it. Saw a Turbo Putt at the pro shop and held it but didn't try it or buy it. Thought about it but didn't. I have an Epic but don't bag it. Pretty much a useless disc in my opinion. I do bag the Tilt though. It comes in handy for certain situations. My most understable disc is my 133g #1 driver. It's also beat to hell but still flies as good as it did when it was brand new. Great for low power hyzer flip/turnovers.
I got a rainbow groove for christmas and I lost it (guess where) in Florida. I don't think it would have ended up in water as I threw it at "The Quarry" north of tampa and the wind took it way out over the trees. I've also since changed my phone number so it's well and truly gone. Cool disc though and I did enjoy it.
Love everyone sharing their Quest discs that didn’t get mentioned!
I found a T Bone in a used bin one time and instantly had to buy it. Thing has a super pop top, almost conical and its main feature is a dimpled underside of the rim like a golf ball
Claims to have 10 glide 😂
I'd give it a glide of 5. Love my TBones. I'd say it's a TeeBird with more glide.
A 6 in glide when I got to see that thrown in person.
The gripe most people have with the Aerobie Epic has nothing to do with the “tuning” aspect, there are other PDGA discs that can do this. The issue is that over 90% of players lack the power it takes to use it to its potential. If you throw an overhand, it will do a full flip at the top of the flight and continue to glide, making it possible to get 500+ out of it with very little skill. But that’s only achievable if you can throw insanely hard, harder than most people could achieve even with practice.
I bought one as a novelty disc about 15 years ago and quickly realized I could tomahawk it further than I could throw any of my backhand drivers, and it became my go-to for all holes over 400 feet.
10 meter brick is weirdest & worst disc I have tried. I had thrown all but those insert ones. Sinus are amazing. Missilen had the hex grid texture and flies great
Was this original 10 meter Brick or the newer also gone brand, so floppy Champion/Z it will not work disc?
The new Doomsday Discs Land Mine is a pretty odd disc.It literally feels like a lid to a can.But it does fly pretty well.Not the craziest disc ever but a strange design and feel nonetheless.
Not as unique since the tilt exists, but the doomsday frag is pretty neat as well
AGL baobab is pretty wild as well
Ever putted with a pole cat? Its a 1 speed, and the edges and essentially vertical!
@@eggsnbeens I never have.I putt with Bergs though so I am a huge proponent of a 1 speed putter
@@eggsnbeens land mine has those flat edges as well, but has a bit more stability
I don’t know if its weird enough for this list, but I have the elevation koi and people think its really bizarre because its super floppy. If you throw it hard enough into the side of the basket, it can bend through the holes and go in which as of 2022 counts as a good shot. Very few discs out there that are flexible enough to do that
My Gumbputt and BlowFly 2 can probably do that. While holding the Gumbputt with my backhand grip I can flick my wrist and have the disc slap the back of my hand.
Kastaplast Rask is so much fun to throw. I rarely use it seriously, but am really glad I have one. I mostly use it for super-sharp corners or for making bets with friends.
Love your content
I actually bag two Kastaplsat Rask. Once beaten in they fly pretty nice for shots where you need a fast disc to drop kinda fast at the end of flight or a fast disc that won't skip like a distance driver.
I remember when the epic came out. the funny thing about it is the tuning explanation on the beck is actually opposite of the truth lol. When the turbo putt came out I remember they had their booth set up at the BG open with stacks of them with a sign that said "pdga approval applied for!" lol
I had both of thoose back in the day and actually bagged them for the get outta jail throws lol.
no latitude missilen/rakaten?
I have always wanted to find a video of someone actually throwing a turbo putt
Not anything spectacularly weird, but the tilt is pretty meme-y
I have a Turbo Putt... There's an event in Minnesota(it was a yearly event) and every year it was a different flying "disc"... It's called the Moir Mystery Madness, and the year they had the Turbo Putt I was in an I Walk boot/crutch with a broken foot... Fun disc to throw...
I throw the Sinus inside of 200’ on backhand. It’s very over stable. I bag one for putting, one for throwing and have 4 more in the backup box. Never play without it.
I threw an epic back in the day
Throw it straight up on a thumber and it would flatten out and glide forever.
One disc you might like is the Prometheus by Salient. A high speed driver with a 23mm width 😮
Fun video 🎉
Altough the hype around Sinus har cooled of because of other os approach discs within Trilogy its still a very popular mold and found in high ranked players bag. Nikko used to bag them with great result. Feldberg may not be a MPO dominant player anymore but its still one mold from L64 that he wont take out of his mixed bag.
And I also bag both the AP & SP myself ;)
As a player with stupidly accurate tomahawks (I got the hand of them and threw them for like two years as my primary drive before I learned to backhand properly) I love my Epics! Now that I can backhand drive well, I usually only reach for it when confronted with a strong head wind. In those conditions, I actually drive my farthest (YES into a headwind I drive my farthest) because the Epic can either just continue to corkscrew, or barrel roll once before leveling off and gliding out like a backhand drive drive, but from 50ft up, depending on how you bend it before throwing.
Forgot the Innova Condor as it is a 200 Gram max diameter ROC that Yes is PDGA approved since that came out roughly 5 years before I started playeing. The other big one from Innova is the Nova missing as that is so odd with the over mold design. Then you forgot the Monach a more loved disc then similar current Champion Groove most by those who like Innova discs. The other main Arobie disc back when the Disc golf discs were made was the Arrow putter, often used as a roller disc by those who did not use them as uphill downhill putters beuause they should have had a negative glide to the disc mold. Also, you do see the Sinus on the Pro/former National tour especially on the Silver Series, a few of the Latitude 64 or other brands made 100% by Latitude 64 sponsored players do use the disc due to the glide being crappier then what the brand says especially with a worn in puddle top and this works well an approach disc.
I saw a guy putting with the Sinus a few weekends ago and I thought he added those grip strips on himself! Cool to know it's the actual design of the disc.
I know someone who owns a Groove. He hates it but won't give it up. I've borrowed it for a few shots, and I've had the most success using it as a thumber and it rolls quite well. But perhaps it's proof how inconsistent their production runs were.
...A disc I own that has a similar behavior is the Prodigy X3. But it definitely doesn't thumb as far as that Innova Groove.
I actually turbo putt a lot. My regular putting is ass, and I am just somehow better at turbos. Bought a Quest set just for the turbo putter. Hated using it. Went back to turbo putting my DX Aviar. The knurled edge is nice, but that weird spiral in the middle makes it come off my hand all off angle.
I'm slightly surprised you didn't talk about the ching line of discs. Juju, velocity, oracle, and genesis.
I have been doing a video series like this there are some crazy disks out there!
The creators of the Ozone Discs Andro C are locals to the disc golf club that I am a part of. I keep 3 of the Andro C's in my bag at all time. Great discs but unfortunately they are OOP.
I have an Epic. Got it when they came out. Could never get it to fly very well backhand or forehand. Eventually, about a year later, I found the true beauty with the disc...overhand. It sits on my wall now
The groove you found in Florida didn't happen to be green and in Estero was it lol? I found one with no name, tried it out a few times, and chucked it into the water. Got it back and promptly threw it right back in the water. It was garbage lol
i watched someone tune an Aerobie Epic and throw a tomahawk which flattened out mid flight about 980' once it landed. theres a reason they approved it then yanked the approval shortly after
The Long Ranger was given away by the case at Morley Field S. D. With max hyzer it would turn into a roller as the only way to get any distance. Go for getting you into trouble 😈
I loved the epic. Till I lost it that is. Now to buy a pdga approved one you can find them on eBay for $350. No thanks didn’t like it that much
Another goofy AT Technologies disc was the wheel. A double sided putter built for rolling. Look it up, haha.
Ive been trying to find a turbo putt with the ramped ridge for a while now. You can find the newer ones with the more perdendicular ridge, but the ramped one looks amazing to throw
Yooo I have had both turbos till I gifted them to a buddy that's his prime style now wall hangers,but I have a 10 meter brick and yes I putt with it hahaha
Wham-O max flight and yikun twin swords. I use the twin swords for forehand hyzer flip straight shot.
I have a very weird disc. Other people can throw it 500 feet, but when I throw it, it only goes 300 feet. Weird eh?
Ahhh Luke Samson… Taught him to throw the long ball. He perfected it himself. Andy R
The monarch by Innova has a weird groove in the lip too, quest had one called the wheel made for rollers , I have the turbo putt it's fun for the back yard
I still have my Epic and Turbo Putt...and I learned how to Turbo Putt without it. ;)
Man I miss my epic soooo much! Can't find 1 anywhere. Used to absolutely bomb mine overhand
Do a bit more research. The groove is infamous because there's no consistency in the various runs of production. The epic is supposed to somersault like someone else mentioned, the m5 was retooled to become the m3 etc.
Yeah, I have a Rask in my bag. I only use it as a "get ot of jail" disc since my noodle arms can't handle the speed it requires 😂
still have an epic it skips so far left i use it for specialty shots that need to skip 90 degrees left, still have a groove but use my monarch more, i should mention i am older and bought these in the early 2000s when they came out
Why is Groove on the list and the Monarch is ignored? Monarch has the same weird grove, just smaller. it always slips me up
Nobody ever addresses the wheel, one of the worst roller discs ever (which was designed as a roller) actually flew decent on a regular throw and would just stick to the ground.
I really don't get the pdga approval thing, the discs that don't get the approval are rubbish so why do you care that somebody uses them
I love my Innova Monarch which is the "little brother" to the groove. It's an under stable disc with a low profile rim that I do pretty good as a less than amateur, especially for a forehand throw.
I lost my monarch but it's a great disc. The love I have for that disc can only me be matched by my hatred of the groove. For the life of me I can't get that thing to fly worth a damn
i really like the Rask from kastaplast :) , did an ace in 226Ft with rask
You didn’t mention discrafts version of the groove called the wave but they all flew different one waaay understable and the next one so over stable it might as well be a flick lol
Banger/Banger-GT and the Monarch. Which is a super flippy groove
I have both Epic and 10 M Brick. Haven't thrown them lately though :)
Quest AT also made a disc called The Wheel. Look that sucker up. I think it is even weirder than the turbo putt.
I bought a driver and a putter that were made by Cheng, and they have grooves on top for where you’re supposed to put your thumb. I dont know anyone else who used one or had one lol
Innova XB was a reverse groove essentially. The groove is on the top. I've got one somewhere.
I have a turbo putt! It's a good idea, the only thing is that it is way too light for a putter, especially for turbo putting.
No mention of the Aerobie Arrow? Really fun disc unlike anything I have ever seen
check of Epic and Rask. Another Aerobi disc that are strange is the sharpshooter with the rim outside instead of inside.
I have a Turbo that I throw when I want to make my buddies angry that they exist in the first place
Love me a Turbo Putter.
Back when I putted that way, it was the only way to go.
I want to hear more about the 10 Meter Brick, that's just hilarious.
Quest was full of weird discs. the inferno and defender had golf ball dimples on the rim.
I was waiting for Latitude 64 Bite. Really weird and unique design
Feldberg bags a Sinus. He speaks really highly of them.
There is also a 3d printed disc that is half a zone and half a teebird IIRC.
So weird seeing my buddy in the ferris state ultimate photo just out of nowhere lmao
The epic is an insane thumber disc. If you have one, try it a watch it fly.
I played with the groove with a lost and found random disc. Hated it lol
Lol my nephew got a Rask from Luke at worlds this weekend!
Weird disc video but doesnt mention the entire ching discs line up. Feels wrong
I found a epic once but couldn't figure it out. Gave it away.
The question wildfire never gets talked about
The blow fly didn't make this list? Love me my blow fly
You miss the aerobie sharpshooter! I've got one only reason I thought of it
Missilen and raketen with opto hex pattern from latitude
i got my first ever ace with a groove and the epic is in my bag currently
I have a Groove in my garage right now. Don’t like it though.
I've got a 09 innova groove I need to get around to throwing it someday
Got the turbo putter as a present and maybe my least favorite disc ever
I had some aerobies. They go far if you tune them right.
The bot fly and the ju ju were both really different
Been many years but I used to throw a groove and a monarch
I have a Champion Groove. Do I have any bids?
Quest also had a disc called Wildfire, which sported a round bumped out mold shape at top center of disc making it looking like a space ship.
Quest AT was the brand. Also, the 10 meter putter that orginal was a stiff mold at stiffest allowable tolerances that type of plastic got stiffer over time to the point of shattering and even just cold temps not yet frezing or hitting a tree would do thos, then when discs were found in St Louis Dumpster behind Gateway, the molds were dumped there the new owner made the discs in Beloit Illinois/near there it became a disc as floppy as an Aerobe Squdgie or what ever that floppy Aerobe catch disc was called, it was the floppiest PDGA approved disc golf disc on the market ever, floppier then the also odd Steady Ed Special Discs from DGA, the Blowfly/II, the Gumputt, Gumputt Driver, and oop Gumputt putter that was a more grippy plastic Gumputt almost like eraser plasric from Gateway. The 10 Meter Putter made it so the PDGA had to imediatly write in rules so a mold could not have that center weight or made rules so a mold could not be made that way. Same thing happend with Areobie Epic change was made to rules so offset inner rims could not be made on a mold.