Extreme discrimination…they rather employ a foreigner who never lived in Singapore before. It’s so shameful and embarrassing. I couldn’t represent the country but I would like to apologise to you.
He speaks like one of us, Singaporeans. Having brought up, educated for 20 years. Spent bulk of your childhood here. I can understand his feelings and felt sad for his plight. I believe that SG gov can be more compassionates towards the children of Gulkha. They had contribute much, 20 years, to our security! At the very least let the children stay to finish their study, of course at their own expense. If they can find a job, then give them a work pass just like any other foreigners. There are contract terms n conditions, yes. But, we should help the children to transit n cope. I believe they can be good candidates to be considered as Singaporeans one day. Get him to serve N S....
Dear Suman, Did you attend Elling Primary School for your primary education when you were in Singapore? I was Principal of Elling Primary from 1994 until its closure in 1996. Can you still remember Mr Fernandez, Mr Ang and Mr Lee?
I can relate to this. The government can make provisions when the father has served Singapore like a national service man.Having lived here and uprooting is a painful change. Gurkhas need to be given special consideration.
Your empathy is deeply appreciated. Recognizing the sacrifices and contributions of individuals who have served Singapore, especially as national servicemen, is essential. The challenges of uprooting are indeed significant, and special consideration for Gurkhas in such situations would be a compassionate gesture. Your understanding of this issue is valuable, and advocating for special provisions for Gurkhas reflects a compassionate perspective on their unique circumstances.
How is this akin to serving national service? They did it on their own will, and get paid decently with all expenses covered. The whole family is in fact living here comfortably without having to spend a single cent. They know what they signed up for, they accepted the terms, and are given them accordingly. This DOES NOT include the right to stay on after the Gurkha has finished their term here. Shall we also offer special consideration to every single foreigner who works here? Uproot all of their families and get them to migrate to Singapore and let them stay for as long as they like? What then is the purpose of Gurkhas and what mockery are you making out of the immigration laws?
As a Singaporean, I believe our government need to relook into the plight of children of the Gurkha force. Let their children to continue their studies and opportunities to work here.
What plight? They have everything provided for in Singapore. Their fathers came here of their own accord. They are mercenaries; get paid for doing their jobs here, and once the contract is up they leave, simple as that. They are not supposed to be develop a sense of homeliness or belonging to Singapore. Are you also going to fight for the rights of children of foreign construction workers and domestic workers to get jobs in Singapore as well?
I agree. They have served our country well. We should appreciate their contribution. If other countries can accept them, why can't our government do us. Give the children an opportunity to apply for citizenship.
Dame touching story ...really put myself into yr shoe and feel how unfair it is ....yoù should put on media long ago and let this debate in our Parliament...lets save many of the same kids like you ...your dad contributed in sg ....unless he did things not rite ...or else sg gov should be happy to let you all stay ...and contribute more
Gurkhas children raised in Singapore is a good pool of ready, locally acclimatised and talented workforces. Perhaps, allow the male children to serve NS and female children to serve as Nurses or others, so that they could be drafted as Citizens of Singapore, staying close and faithful to Singapore.
@@josephyeo6966. You must first, understand all Singaporean males have to serve NS unconditional. You must show that you not just for the benefits, and have non of the responsibility.
@josephyeo6966 Not gracious to be a "free-rider" in Singapore, bro. Try elsewhere. Try to find a country that welcomes free-rider. There is a country that offers free scholarships to foreign students only. It a benefit that their local residents do not even enjoy. And also come with monthly living allowance.
@@ericphua2359 No compassion, no gratitude to people who helped you when you needed them? We are not talking about exemption from NS, but allowing them to become citizens with all the normal requirements.
Extreme discrimination…they rather employ a foreigner who never lived in Singapore before. It’s so shameful and embarrassing. I couldn’t represent the country but I would like to apologise to you.
The Gurkha Regiment in SG Replaced the Sikh Regiment. Post SG Self Governance ( 1959) , ALL Crown Subjects including Sikhs, were Offered UK or SG citizenships. Given the History, Think Singapore Govt can provide some Concessions to Gurkhas for Pathway to SG PR & Citizenship… SG can continue to Benefit from Loyal & Disciplined Gurkha Community …
Your insight into the historical context of the Gurkha Regiment in Singapore and the transition after Singapore's self-governance is valuable. Considering their loyalty and discipline, it's understandable to advocate for concessions that could provide a pathway to permanent residency and citizenship specially for those Gurkha children who were born and brought up in Singapore like Mr Suman. They have rooted their ethnic connections with Singapore, where they feel and still call their home. Recognizing the contributions of the Gurkha community and finding ways to integrate them further into Singaporean society could indeed benefit both sides. It's a conversation worth having as Singapore continues to evolve and embrace its diverse communities.
I used to be from Aljunied primary school and i had a Gurkha classmate. Sadly technology wasn't advance like now and we lost contact. Still remember her thou.. 🙋🇸🇬
SG already given their children the environment to build n equip their abilities to go anywhere in the world, besides their well paid salary. SG government has to consider many other aspects of the whole society n country. There must be good reasons for what SG govt is doing. Cannot be sentimental. Go apply for work visas etc. to work here.
This is not the fault of the offsprings’ they should be given a choice whether to stay in Singapore or leave. They are as good a citizen as a Singaporean.
It's really sad actually. The kids grow up in Singapore. They have their education here , they grow up together with our local Singapore kids. They don't know much about what happened in Nepal. These kids very much adapt to Singapore culture and feeling Singaporean. But at the end they are being sent back. This very much like sending a Singapore breed children to a country that they are not familiar. It's kind of cruel☹️
This guy if allowed to continue to study +work in Singapore, would likely become a very loyal good Singaporean if he is allowed to do so . The Singapore government should change its policy , and allow the children of Gurkhas to continue to study and work in Singapore, even after their father's work contract in Singapore has ended
Gurkhas are hired as mercenaries, no? The moment they become PR or citizens, they cannot continue in the role that they had served in. As for the children, isn't it the same for all children of work permit/pass residents? Is Singapore disallowing their children to continue their education in Singapore when the parents leave Singapore? I dunno.
Just imagine - if children of Singapore Gurkhas police officers are allowed to settle down here in Singapore and be given citizenship, over time we will accumulate a pool of Nepalis whose dad or granddad is or used to be Gurkhas police officers. The Nepalis Gurkhas police officers are also human beings and human beings value treasure relationship like friendship, family ties etc. All these are good but when come to law enforcement, it is a double-edged sword. We are 100% confident the Nepalis Gurkhas police officers are impartial and doing their very best in their job now. But if the one committing the crime are their fellow Nepalis brothers or sisters, or offspring of their former or current Gurkhas police superior, can we still be sure the Gurkhas police officers will still be as impartial and trying their level best to enforce the law? The answer is, we can't be sure. The very reason why Nepalis Gurkhas police officers are hired here is to uphold law and order and be seen as a neutral party among the populace. If the offspring of Gurkhas police officers are allowed to settle down here, this neutrality simply disappear. Heart wrenching as it is, I guess such policy/decision by the Singapore government is what the late LKY says about leadership - a leader has to make tough decision.
Same with Singaporeans working in the police force, how can anyone be sure that they are impartial to their fellow citizens for breaking the laws, if you think Gurkhas might stick up for Gurkhas, Chinese might do that for Chinese, Tamil for Tamil, Malay for Malay, we are robbed of our rights, it’s 2024 and the first thing that comes to your mind is if we’ll taint your peaceful country, if we were granted citizenship the moment we were born into that country like most of you were, wouldn’t you and I both be Singaporean and not have discrimination against us in that sense?
I am a Gurkha fan, Singapore should at least grant the Gurkha police and their immediate PR followed by citizenship. These people laid their lives for Singapore but are treated like dirt. I am deeply sorry.... I requested our Singapore government to consider granting them at least PR first.
Imagine if sg were to allow the children of every Gurkha to stay behind even after their father contract ends, SG will be filled with them eventually and that will upset the immigration policy. That's why it's already made known upfront at the point they sign the contract to take up the job. Claiming ignorance or not understanding the contract will no longer be acceptable. Everyone can claim not to understand the contract. Knowing how sg gov work, they would surely have explained to them in Nepalese on the T&C of the contract. And fellow senior Gurkha would have also explained to his father along the way. And if still really don't understand, just don't sign or take up the job offer. Simple as that. It's his father responsibility to make sure he understands the contract before signing on it. And if in doubt, just don't take up the offer. This is how things work on earth.
Not sure if this is still the case but the sad irony in the past was that people from Nepal, those who came from Nepal and not those from the Gurkha Camp, were treated much better...they were able to get the employment/work permit/student pass and then get the PR ( permanent resident) without any issue.
Indeed, many Nepali origin individuals not directly affiliated with Singapore Gurkhas are granted Permanent Residency, allowing them to explore numerous opportunities in Singapore. It's truly saddening to learn about the challenges faced by Singapore Gurkha Children after their Gurkha father retires, particularly considering their contributions to the country's safety and security. Societies must acknowledge and appreciate the efforts of all individuals, regardless of their background or their parents' professions. Discrimination based on familial status contradicts principles of equality and fairness. Hopefully, greater awareness and efforts can be made to address these issues and ensure equal opportunities for everyone.
i think its the contract that singapore can't keep the gurkha children in singapore. They need to respect other country's too. They can't take nepal children to serve in the country. Nepal need people to serve their country too. In another word, Singapore can't just take every single nepal family, they need to have something left for them too. Its a mercenaries contract. This contract came in to keep nepal as a existing country. Just imagine been many years gurkha served the British, singapore police force how many families are there, if they took all of these families away from nepal, nepal won't exist today.
This is not a new issues,it has been like this for many years in Singapore. But will this young man join the military service if Singapore gives him a chance to stay & work as terms and conditions.
Immigration rules are often incomprehensible and painful. You may be able to apply for a job in spore from Nepal now if you would still like to live in spore.
Thank you for your comment. Just to clarify, the intention of the video is not to discuss job opportunities in Singapore but rather to shed light on the challenges faced by Gurkha children in Singapore. It's important to note that none of the Gurkha children or their families are permitted to work or stay in Singapore after the Gurkha retires from service. Additionally, Gurkha children are even prohibited from pursuing further education in Singapore. The video aims to highlight these restrictions and their impact on the Gurkha community in Singapore.
The minimum pension a Singaporean draws after the review is S$1280. The minimum pension Gurkha draws is S$950. Perhaps these differences could be addressed. Also, the Singapore government activated the mass promotion for the Gurkhas in the year 2005 while the Singapore police force had their mass promotion review in 1995. Perhaps the Gurkhas now retired from the Singapore police force must be compensated for the ten years they were not promoted.
i don't think it is a matter of checking the contract. The young lad when joining the force just want to get on with his career specially abroad. The real contract issue is what has been signed between the British, Singapore and Nepali government(if Nepali government exists 🙂) Lot of changes has happened in the British army on similar ground. And I think Singapore government now needs to step up to the time and address this genuine issues. Specially considering that thousands and thousands of foreigners get Singapore permanent resident and citizenship every year! The Gurkhas should be automatically taken in, considering their service to Singapore nation.
You bring up an important point about the age and circumstances of Gurkhas when they join the force. Many are indeed young and eager to pursue opportunities abroad, often without fully understanding the implications of their contracts. It's crucial for all parties involved, including the British, Singapore, and Nepali governments, to ensure transparency and fairness in these agreements. Considering the significant contributions Gurkhas have made to Singapore, it's reasonable to expect fair treatment and consideration for their service when it comes to residency and citizenship. It's time for the Singapore government to address these legitimate concerns and ensure that Gurkhas are given the recognition and support they deserve.
Gurkas are a designed force, employed as a professional force in Singapore, like the military in the UK. They are to be impartial, take no sides in the society that they are protecting & to grow no roots. The Gurkas are not to assumilate into the society & blurred the lines. The father should have told the kids way earlier that they will eventually leave.
My full respect to the GC and their children. Thank you for your service. For those who made other comments, they should read what you wrote. it is the main reason. if not for that, we would be proud to have you all as one of us.
Maybe might be because there are so many over the years that if it is permitted it will affect the racial balance in terms of percentage. Or it could be because due to security reasons as their fathers are in the seccret operations there might be conflict of interests at times. Or might be because LKY wants this to be done.
It seems like if there are any racial fight among singaporean, gurkhas are deployed to have impartial treatment. So i think blending in would defeat the purpose. Do u think this is the case?
The deployment of Gurkhas in Singapore for impartial treatment in racial conflicts reflects a specific historical context and strategic decision. It is also a valid point about Singapore's multi-racial and multi-cultural society, which values foreign talent as a workforce. While Gurkhas are deployed for impartial treatment in racial conflicts, it doesn't necessarily impact the blending in of Gurkha children born and brought up in Singapore. Their desire to pursue further studies and contribute to society is a positive aspect, and their numbers are indeed negligible compared to the overall population of Singapore.
Brother being a true Nepali, an authentic Nepali’s son ! What I advise you to is become Nepali where your root is and your ancestor’s😂Singapore was nothing back in 60s,as LKY said it was muddy,defenseless island .But in 60s Nepal was thriving and industrializing !❤But now,due to political instability and uncertainty Nepal is now one of the most corrupt and impoverished countries in the world. Hope one day Nepal will be highly developed meritocracy and Nepali people will no longer have to suffer and leave their own country to make a living 😂😂
I believed this policy does not only affect the gurkhas family. A lot that are fortunate to got a job in SG, their family members may not be as fortunate.
Gurkha police have been operating in Singapore for a very long time since 1960s, many have become PR, others not so lucky. Their term of engagement plays a critical role in this matter.
The establishment of the Gurkha Contingent on April 9, 1949, is a notable milestone as they near their Platinum Jubilee. It's important to highlight that apart from a few exceptional cases, the vast majority of Gurkhas have not obtained permanent residency in Singapore, despite their dedicated service. Additionally, Gurkhas are barred from finding reemployment opportunities in Singapore once they retire from their service from the Singapore Police Force. While acknowledging the significance of their fathers' terms and conditions of service, it's crucial not to unfairly impact their children based on their fathers' circumstances.
Your father was given a fair and straightforward deal by SG. Whether you feel fair or not depends on how your dad taught and communicated with you. It's a family matter. Don't feel so entitled just because you think you have excelled and assimilated into the society.
This educated young man said NO HUMAN RIGHTS IN SG!!! What human rights you want? We have our own laws and regulations in SG. If not satisfied, just leave SG for a greener pasture.
The policy regarding the employment rights of Singapore Gurkhas' wives and children is determined by the relevant authorities. It's possible that there are specific regulations in place regarding their residency status and work eligibility. For more detailed information, it would be best to direct your inquiry to the appropriate government department or agency overseeing immigration and labor policies.
Regardless of where you were born, people that serve in the military should be given citizenship or PR if they want it. Serving in the military should be seen as a privilege that you may pay back with your life. I am surprised that SG has not taken this into account and honor the people who were there when needed, when SG Army was at its infancy and they serve as a strong deterrent. A bit like I protected you and now you take it out on my family and make them suffer. No. Do the right thing, SG.
As someone who watched the parliament proceeding of the Gurkhas debate decades ago, let me help put this in perspective. The decision was not made without compassion or empathy, but rather with great care for your community for your commitment. Ethnicity plays but a small part. The gov, led by Mr KY Lee clearly stated the reasons behind the decision. Compared to those who fought for the British empire in the wars, yet the Gurkhas had to demand that their sacrifices be respected and recognised, the Gurkhas will never be on our frontline but our citizens army like myself, that’s our moral high ground. In comparison to our people with similar academic qualification, the Gurkhas are paid handsomely beyond our citizens, the only criteria for the job is the superior fitness level and the art of warfare. Notwithstanding, Gurkhas do leave for home after their contracts expire, were able to buy land and build houses and have a comfortable retirement in Nepal or elsewhere of their choice, except Singapore. Compare this with the Singaporeans without the high financial benefits and possibly other benefits extended to their families, it would have created a class disadvantage for Singaporeans. It is harsh but as Mr KS Wong said correctly that Singapore had given you something invaluable for your family and for your future generations to come to build on for yourselves and country. You are not alone in this dilemma but the mentioned communities here too. I met a young man nearby Windsor castle studying in the UK recently, who has the same desire as you and he accepts the same said. As a Singaporean, we would not forget friends like you and would love for you to continue your affection for our land and your visits is fondly remembered by your friends here. The reason why Singapore is so attractive is because we work hard for it to be successful and prosperous, our neighbours have the same starting point and our retirees are looking for alternatives to Singapore. Life is not easy to manoeuvre but we have to make the best choice possible for the cards we have.
Sad,.. because of the Policies, Singapore may have Lost another Genuinely Passionate Human Talent, to be displaced with Merceneries Foreign Talents who may not be as Loyal as the Incumbents
No matter what our gov did lots of work planning rules n policies...is sad you need to go but thanks your dad for bringing you here to become so educated n respectful....hope you can use what you have learned n studied here with some luck to expend yr business....
Perhaps the former Gurkha residents of Singapore should prepare for their own destiny, outside of Singapore, after life in Singapore. Education in Singapore is the best in Asia, everything in Singapore is almost perfect but there is life after Singapore. Create your own business and identity outside Singapore and thank Singaporeans and their government for employing the Gurkhas and providing their family with a wonderful fringe benefits, while serving there. Life after Singapore is the perogative of the employee not the government. I still believe the Singapore government is fair to all. Thank you.
This is all at the end the effect of root cause of Nepalese and british Government ! They need to change the policy to address this issue immediately !!!
The name of his restaurant is NomNom and the menu entails of Singapore-influenced food like chicken rice, currypuff, mee goreng etc. due to him wholly growing up in Singapore.
If contract already stated and your father signed on the dotted line. I believe the contract was fully explained to your father at that time. Since you have a good education, just go work anywhere. Everything is a problem when you start a new working life anywhere. Don’t blame SG and seems like you are correct about your opinions. Please don’t forget that SG gave a better life to your family and your better self for many many years.
After watching your video, let me share what I know and thinking. First of all I am a Singaporean, welcome foreigners that can contribute to Singapore.. I can feel your disappoinment. I can imagine if I will you, how I will feel. You are looking at things at your level. If you bother to find out, the reason for such policy is national race identity. If Singapore allow you to stay, over times, gradually the ethnicity make up of Singapore will change. But, if you are a Chinese, Malaysia Chinese even better because Singapore believe Malaysia Chinese can intergrate better (they can understand about race sensitivity then China Chinese). This is the bigger picture that hope you can understand. So far if I am not wrong, no country in this world allows ethnicity to change significantly.....I believe Nepalese government also will not allow China immigrants to change Nepal make up.
Thank you for sharing your perspective. While it is understandable the reasoning behind Singapore's policy on national race identity, it's disheartening to hear about the challenges individuals like Suman face. It's important to consider the broader context and implications of such policies, even if they're rooted in preserving cultural identity. Your analogy regarding other countries and their approaches to ethnicity shifts is thought-provoking. It's a complex issue with no easy solutions, but dialogue like this helps broaden understanding.
@@Humorousguy64 ... any difference?... In the Singapore workforce, foreigner restrictions is also highly regulated. If long years of working is a prerequisite for employment or citizenship then, Philippines maid, Bangladesh manual workers, etc will also ask for the same employment privilege. You must understand that the government of Singapore places Singaporeans interest at the top, not foreigners.
I reckon, the founding fathers of SG, esp. Tough Old Man and Dr. Goh had thought about this many rounds and rounds in their heads. Unlikely, the authority will allow Gurkha Family to be rooted. Without a doubt, we need Gurkhas regiment to uphold our delicate and fragile Racial Harmony in case thing went very wrong. As LKY said even to the Malay Community, yes the World is unfair!!! it is not unreal.
Namaste babuji ,u should not regret.Cos' at least ur back in a(spiritual) land!What actually is there u can find, samsara n impermanence .😢😢namaska from a not wanting 2 be a singaporean...
Namaskars! Thank you for sharing your perspective. Returning to the spiritual land indeed offers insights into concepts like samsara and impermanence. Your sentiment of not wanting to be Singaporean reflects your personal journey and beliefs, which deserve respect. It's essential to understand that this video doesn't reflect any regrets about being a son of a Gurkha. Instead, it highlights the challenges faced by Gurkha children in integrating into their society in Nepal. Each individual's journey is unique, and it's important to honor and respect their paths.
Thank you for sharing your perspective. I don’t see if this video has blamed Singapore on any context but Mr Suman has only expressed his true experiences of being a Gurkha children. It's important to acknowledge that contractual agreements and regulations are in place, and it's not fair to blame Singapore for adhering to them. Understanding and respecting each party's commitments is crucial in any agreement. It's reassuring to hear that Singaporeans respect the Gurkha community and their contributions to Singapore.
Extreme discrimination…they rather employ a foreigner who never lived in Singapore before. It’s so shameful and embarrassing. I couldn’t represent the country but I would like to apologise to you.
You came to protect us, and then we kicked you out after that. We are really really sorry that our govt treated you so badly. Shame on our govt.
Government lamented about low children birth but rejected people who study in there and wants to be Singaporean and are willing to serve NS .
He speaks like one of us, Singaporeans. Having brought up, educated for 20 years. Spent bulk of your childhood here. I can understand his feelings and felt sad for his plight. I believe that SG gov can be more compassionates towards the children of Gulkha. They had contribute much, 20 years, to our security! At the very least let the children stay to finish their study, of course at their own expense. If they can find a job, then give them a work pass just like any other foreigners. There are contract terms n conditions, yes. But, we should help the children to transit n cope. I believe they can be good candidates to be considered as Singaporeans one day. Get him to serve N S....
touching and sad. Hope the authorities will look into the plight of the children of the gurkhas. Loyal and totally assimilated already.
Dear Suman, thank you for keeping our country in your heart, regardless of the circumstances.
Dear Suman, Did you attend Elling Primary School for your primary education when you were in Singapore? I was Principal of Elling Primary from 1994 until its closure in 1996. Can you still remember Mr Fernandez, Mr Ang and Mr Lee?
on behalf of singaporeans with brains and hearts...i apologise to the gurkha community.
I can relate to this. The government can make provisions when the father has served Singapore like a national service man.Having lived here and uprooting is a painful change. Gurkhas need to be given special consideration.
Your empathy is deeply appreciated. Recognizing the sacrifices and contributions of individuals who have served Singapore, especially as national servicemen, is essential. The challenges of uprooting are indeed significant, and special consideration for Gurkhas in such situations would be a compassionate gesture. Your understanding of this issue is valuable, and advocating for special provisions for Gurkhas reflects a compassionate perspective on their unique circumstances.
Yes! At Mount Vernon Camp. They are the real faithfuls who guarded at Oxley Rise.
How is this akin to serving national service? They did it on their own will, and get paid decently with all expenses covered. The whole family is in fact living here comfortably without having to spend a single cent. They know what they signed up for, they accepted the terms, and are given them accordingly. This DOES NOT include the right to stay on after the Gurkha has finished their term here.
Shall we also offer special consideration to every single foreigner who works here? Uproot all of their families and get them to migrate to Singapore and let them stay for as long as they like? What then is the purpose of Gurkhas and what mockery are you making out of the immigration laws?
No country would allow to export their citizens. I think there must have some agreement by both countries on this.
As a Singaporean, I believe our government need to relook into the plight of children of the Gurkha force. Let their children to continue their studies and opportunities to work here.
What plight? They have everything provided for in Singapore. Their fathers came here of their own accord. They are mercenaries; get paid for doing their jobs here, and once the contract is up they leave, simple as that. They are not supposed to be develop a sense of homeliness or belonging to Singapore.
Are you also going to fight for the rights of children of foreign construction workers and domestic workers to get jobs in Singapore as well?
Use ur own men to protect urself then. Dont bring other men.
I agree. They have served our country well. We should appreciate their contribution. If other countries can accept them, why can't our government do us. Give the children an opportunity to apply for citizenship.
I think it's time to change the policies for them, especially the children who were raised here.
Dame touching story ...really put myself into yr shoe and feel how unfair it is ....yoù should put on media long ago and let this debate in our Parliament...lets save many of the same kids like you ...your dad contributed in sg ....unless he did things not rite ...or else sg gov should be happy to let you all stay ...and contribute more
As long as an SG company is willing to hire you, you will get a working Visa. There's no other way unless you change your citizenship.
Finish is finished, Singapore had already helped your family, don't talk nonsense 😂
Singapore has helped your family aloes,don't think you wanted to be a Singaporean, now Singapore is too crowded please leave mind country
Gurkhas children raised in Singapore is a good pool of ready, locally acclimatised and talented workforces. Perhaps, allow the male children to serve NS and female children to serve as Nurses or others, so that they could be drafted as Citizens of Singapore, staying close and faithful to Singapore.
No. A sincere thank you for what you have done should be unconditional, as long as they have been law abiding.
@@josephyeo6966. You must first, understand all Singaporean males have to serve NS unconditional. You must show that you not just for the benefits, and have non of the responsibility.
@@ericphua2359 So no thank you? Not very gracious.
@josephyeo6966 Not gracious to be a "free-rider" in Singapore, bro. Try elsewhere. Try to find a country that welcomes free-rider. There is a country that offers free scholarships to foreign students only. It a benefit that their local residents do not even enjoy. And also come with monthly living allowance.
@@ericphua2359 No compassion, no gratitude to people who helped you when you needed them?
We are not talking about exemption from NS, but allowing them to become citizens with all the normal requirements.
Extreme discrimination…they rather employ a foreigner who never lived in Singapore before. It’s so shameful and embarrassing. I couldn’t represent the country but I would like to apologise to you.
Thank you for sharing! most of us were not aware until now...
The Gurkha Regiment in SG Replaced the Sikh Regiment. Post SG Self Governance ( 1959) , ALL Crown Subjects including Sikhs, were Offered UK or SG citizenships. Given the History, Think Singapore Govt can provide some Concessions to Gurkhas for Pathway to SG PR & Citizenship… SG can continue to Benefit from Loyal & Disciplined Gurkha Community …
Your insight into the historical context of the Gurkha Regiment in Singapore and the transition after Singapore's self-governance is valuable. Considering their loyalty and discipline, it's understandable to advocate for concessions that could provide a pathway to permanent residency and citizenship specially for those Gurkha children who were born and brought up in Singapore like Mr Suman. They have rooted their ethnic connections with Singapore, where they feel and still call their home. Recognizing the contributions of the Gurkha community and finding ways to integrate them further into Singaporean society could indeed benefit both sides. It's a conversation worth having as Singapore continues to evolve and embrace its diverse communities.
I used to be from Aljunied primary school and i had a Gurkha classmate. Sadly technology wasn't advance like now and we lost contact. Still remember her thou.. 🙋🇸🇬
SG already given their children the environment to build n equip their abilities to go anywhere in the world, besides their well paid salary.
SG government has to consider many other aspects of the whole society n country. There must be good reasons for what SG govt is doing. Cannot be sentimental.
Go apply for work visas etc. to work here.
This is not the fault of the offsprings’ they should be given a choice whether to stay in Singapore or leave. They are as good a citizen as a Singaporean.
It's really sad actually. The kids grow up in Singapore. They have their education here , they grow up together with our local Singapore kids. They don't know much about what happened in Nepal. These kids very much adapt to Singapore culture and feeling Singaporean. But at the end they are being sent back. This very much like sending a Singapore breed children to a country that they are not familiar. It's kind of cruel☹️
Mind country to pay you work here,in your country you have nothing
This guy if allowed to continue to study +work in Singapore,
would likely become a very loyal good Singaporean if he is allowed to do so .
The Singapore government should change its policy ,
and allow the children of Gurkhas to continue to study and work in Singapore,
even after their father's work contract in Singapore has ended
Gurkhas are hired as mercenaries, no? The moment they become PR or citizens, they cannot continue in the role that they had served in.
As for the children, isn't it the same for all children of work permit/pass residents? Is Singapore disallowing their children to continue their education in Singapore when the parents leave Singapore? I dunno.
Just imagine - if children of Singapore Gurkhas police officers are allowed to settle down here in Singapore and be given citizenship, over time we will accumulate a pool of Nepalis whose dad or granddad is or used to be Gurkhas police officers. The Nepalis Gurkhas police officers are also human beings and human beings value treasure relationship like friendship, family ties etc. All these are good but when come to law enforcement, it is a double-edged sword. We are 100% confident the Nepalis Gurkhas police officers are impartial and doing their very best in their job now. But if the one committing the crime are their fellow Nepalis brothers or sisters, or offspring of their former or current Gurkhas police superior, can we still be sure the Gurkhas police officers will still be as impartial and trying their level best to enforce the law? The answer is, we can't be sure. The very reason why Nepalis Gurkhas police officers are hired here is to uphold law and order and be seen as a neutral party among the populace. If the offspring of Gurkhas police officers are allowed to settle down here, this neutrality simply disappear. Heart wrenching as it is, I guess such policy/decision by the Singapore government is what the late LKY says about leadership - a leader has to make tough decision.
Thanks! Appreciate this. So well explained.
Same with Singaporeans working in the police force, how can anyone be sure that they are impartial to their fellow citizens for breaking the laws, if you think Gurkhas might stick up for Gurkhas, Chinese might do that for Chinese, Tamil for Tamil, Malay for Malay, we are robbed of our rights, it’s 2024 and the first thing that comes to your mind is if we’ll taint your peaceful country, if we were granted citizenship the moment we were born into that country like most of you were, wouldn’t you and I both be Singaporean and not have discrimination against us in that sense?
He has spoken to Wong Kan Seng when Wong was deputy PM. It must be 13 years ago. Wong has retired from the post in 2011.
I am a Gurkha fan, Singapore should at least grant the Gurkha police and their immediate PR followed by citizenship. These people laid their lives for Singapore but are treated like dirt. I am deeply sorry.... I requested our Singapore government to consider granting them at least PR first.
Imagine if sg were to allow the children of every Gurkha to stay behind even after their father contract ends, SG will be filled with them eventually and that will upset the immigration policy. That's why it's already made known upfront at the point they sign the contract to take up the job. Claiming ignorance or not understanding the contract will no longer be acceptable. Everyone can claim not to understand the contract. Knowing how sg gov work, they would surely have explained to them in Nepalese on the T&C of the contract. And fellow senior Gurkha would have also explained to his father along the way.
And if still really don't understand, just don't sign or take up the job offer. Simple as that.
It's his father responsibility to make sure he understands the contract before signing on it. And if in doubt, just don't take up the offer. This is how things work on earth.
Not sure if this is still the case but the sad irony in the past was that people from Nepal, those who came from Nepal and not those from the Gurkha Camp, were treated much better...they were able to get the employment/work permit/student pass and then get the PR ( permanent resident) without any issue.
Indeed, many Nepali origin individuals not directly affiliated with Singapore Gurkhas are granted Permanent Residency, allowing them to explore numerous opportunities in Singapore.
It's truly saddening to learn about the challenges faced by Singapore Gurkha Children after their Gurkha father retires, particularly considering their contributions to the country's safety and security. Societies must acknowledge and appreciate the efforts of all individuals, regardless of their background or their parents' professions. Discrimination based on familial status contradicts principles of equality and fairness. Hopefully, greater awareness and efforts can be made to address these issues and ensure equal opportunities for everyone.
To be fair,not only you .There are a lot out there wanting to migrate here. All wanting to come here for better lifehood .
i think its the contract that singapore can't keep the gurkha children in singapore. They need to respect other country's too. They can't take nepal children to serve in the country. Nepal need people to serve their country too. In another word, Singapore can't just take every single nepal family, they need to have something left for them too. Its a mercenaries contract. This contract came in to keep nepal as a existing country. Just imagine been many years gurkha served the British, singapore police force how many families are there, if they took all of these families away from nepal, nepal won't exist today.
This is not a new issues,it has been like this for many years in Singapore. But will this young man join the military service if Singapore gives him a chance to stay & work as terms and conditions.
The government should just objectively view their skills sets to approve their stay in sg
Well done, bhai for opening a restaurant that is not just a restuarant but a hangout for us to reminisce about our childhood days. Bagus!
Immigration rules are often incomprehensible and painful. You may be able to apply for a job in spore from Nepal now if you would still like to live in spore.
Thank you for your comment. Just to clarify, the intention of the video is not to discuss job opportunities in Singapore but rather to shed light on the challenges faced by Gurkha children in Singapore. It's important to note that none of the Gurkha children or their families are permitted to work or stay in Singapore after the Gurkha retires from service. Additionally, Gurkha children are even prohibited from pursuing further education in Singapore. The video aims to highlight these restrictions and their impact on the Gurkha community in Singapore.
👌 thank you for the clarification.
The minimum pension a Singaporean draws after the review is S$1280. The minimum pension Gurkha draws is S$950. Perhaps these differences could be addressed. Also, the Singapore government activated the mass promotion for the Gurkhas in the year 2005 while the Singapore police force had their mass promotion review in 1995. Perhaps the Gurkhas now retired from the Singapore police force must be compensated for the ten years they were not promoted.
i don't think it is a matter of checking the contract. The young lad when joining the force just want to get on with his career specially abroad. The real contract issue is what has been signed between the British, Singapore and Nepali government(if Nepali government exists 🙂)
Lot of changes has happened in the British army on similar ground. And I think Singapore government now needs to step up to the time and address this genuine issues. Specially considering that thousands and thousands of foreigners get Singapore permanent resident and citizenship every year! The Gurkhas should be automatically taken in, considering their service to Singapore nation.
You bring up an important point about the age and circumstances of Gurkhas when they join the force. Many are indeed young and eager to pursue opportunities abroad, often without fully understanding the implications of their contracts. It's crucial for all parties involved, including the British, Singapore, and Nepali governments, to ensure transparency and fairness in these agreements.
Considering the significant contributions Gurkhas have made to Singapore, it's reasonable to expect fair treatment and consideration for their service when it comes to residency and citizenship. It's time for the Singapore government to address these legitimate concerns and ensure that Gurkhas are given the recognition and support they deserve.
Gurkas are a designed force, employed as a professional force in Singapore, like the military in the UK. They are to be impartial, take no sides in the society that they are protecting & to grow no roots. The Gurkas are not to assumilate into the society & blurred the lines. The father should have told the kids way earlier that they will eventually leave.
My full respect to the GC and their children. Thank you for your service. For those who made other comments, they should read what you wrote. it is the main reason. if not for that, we would be proud to have you all as one of us.
Please go through the proper way to apply PR then citizenship. As you are similar to those working parents from other countries.
Maybe might be because there are so many over the years that if it is permitted it will affect the racial balance in terms of percentage. Or it could be because due to security reasons as their fathers are in the seccret operations there might be conflict of interests at times. Or might be because LKY wants this to be done.
Young Nepalese people must be pushed Nepal Government to do create jobs good salary and no one go any other countries
There could be a blind spot here. Hope they relook at this situation soon 🙏🙏🙏
It seems like if there are any racial fight among singaporean, gurkhas are deployed to have impartial treatment. So i think blending in would defeat the purpose. Do u think this is the case?
The deployment of Gurkhas in Singapore for impartial treatment in racial conflicts reflects a specific historical context and strategic decision. It is also a valid point about Singapore's multi-racial and multi-cultural society, which values foreign talent as a workforce. While Gurkhas are deployed for impartial treatment in racial conflicts, it doesn't necessarily impact the blending in of Gurkha children born and brought up in Singapore. Their desire to pursue further studies and contribute to society is a positive aspect, and their numbers are indeed negligible compared to the overall population of Singapore.
They are neutral peace-keepers.
Sorry
Please mention where you are watching from.
me from Butwal....me too and Ex- GC vanja born and raised in SG KK womens hospital.......missin sg alot
Good to know. I hope Suman’s story and experiences relates and resonates to most of bhanja-bhanjis (Gurkha Children).
Brother being a true Nepali, an authentic Nepali’s son ! What I advise you to is become Nepali where your root is and your ancestor’s😂Singapore was nothing back in 60s,as LKY said it was muddy,defenseless island .But in 60s Nepal was thriving and industrializing !❤But now,due to political instability and uncertainty Nepal is now one of the most corrupt and impoverished countries in the world. Hope one day Nepal will be highly developed meritocracy and Nepali people will no longer have to suffer and leave their own country to make a living 😂😂
Agree, there must be made a provision for these children whom parents has served for Singapore.
a story of failure. many. if you succeed. story will be different. it is individual. nothing about country. sir
feel sorry about what happened to you
It is indeed a sad reality.
I believed this policy does not only affect the gurkhas family. A lot that are fortunate to got a job in SG, their family members may not be as fortunate.
Why Ang Mo can become Singaporean. There must be a very sinister reason behind.
Gurkha police have been operating in Singapore for a very long time since 1960s, many have become PR, others not so lucky. Their term of engagement plays a critical role in this matter.
The establishment of the Gurkha Contingent on April 9, 1949, is a notable milestone as they near their Platinum Jubilee. It's important to highlight that apart from a few exceptional cases, the vast majority of Gurkhas have not obtained permanent residency in Singapore, despite their dedicated service. Additionally, Gurkhas are barred from finding reemployment opportunities in Singapore once they retire from their service from the Singapore Police Force. While acknowledging the significance of their fathers' terms and conditions of service, it's crucial not to unfairly impact their children based on their fathers' circumstances.
Your father was given a fair and straightforward deal by SG. Whether you feel fair or not depends on how your dad taught and communicated with you. It's a family matter. Don't feel so entitled just because you think you have excelled and assimilated into the society.
This educated young man said NO HUMAN RIGHTS IN SG!!! What human rights you want? We have our own laws and regulations in SG. If not satisfied, just leave SG for a greener pasture.
Should use the connections and education to build businesses back in Nepal and attract the high net worth people to holiday there.
I want to share some question 😢
Why don't give some work for Singapore police wife and citizenship 😢
The policy regarding the employment rights of Singapore Gurkhas' wives and children is determined by the relevant authorities. It's possible that there are specific regulations in place regarding their residency status and work eligibility. For more detailed information, it would be best to direct your inquiry to the appropriate government department or agency overseeing immigration and labor policies.
so sad to hear about this in SG.
Regardless of where you were born, people that serve in the military should be given citizenship or PR if they want it.
Serving in the military should be seen as a privilege that you may pay back with your life. I am surprised that SG has not taken this into account and honor the people who were there when needed, when SG Army was at its infancy and they serve as a strong deterrent.
A bit like I protected you and now you take it out on my family and make them suffer. No. Do the right thing, SG.
As someone who watched the parliament proceeding of the Gurkhas debate decades ago, let me help put this in perspective.
The decision was not made without compassion or empathy, but rather with great care for your community for your commitment. Ethnicity plays but a small part.
The gov, led by Mr KY Lee clearly stated the reasons behind the decision. Compared to those who fought for the British empire in the wars, yet the Gurkhas had to demand that their sacrifices be respected and recognised, the Gurkhas will never be on our frontline but our citizens army like myself, that’s our moral high ground.
In comparison to our people with similar academic qualification, the Gurkhas are paid handsomely beyond our citizens, the only criteria for the job is the superior fitness level and the art of warfare. Notwithstanding, Gurkhas do leave for home after their contracts expire, were able to buy land and build houses and have a comfortable retirement in Nepal or elsewhere of their choice, except Singapore. Compare this with the Singaporeans without the high financial benefits and possibly other benefits extended to their families, it would have created a class disadvantage for Singaporeans. It is harsh but as Mr KS Wong said correctly that Singapore had given you something invaluable for your family and for your future generations to come to build on for yourselves and country. You are not alone in this dilemma but the mentioned communities here too.
I met a young man nearby Windsor castle studying in the UK recently, who has the same desire as you and he accepts the same said. As a Singaporean, we would not forget friends like you and would love for you to continue your affection for our land and your visits is fondly remembered by your friends here. The reason why Singapore is so attractive is because we work hard for it to be successful and prosperous, our neighbours have the same starting point and our retirees are looking for alternatives to Singapore.
Life is not easy to manoeuvre but we have to make the best choice possible for the cards we have.
Sad,.. because of the Policies, Singapore may have Lost another Genuinely Passionate Human Talent, to be displaced with Merceneries Foreign Talents who may not be as Loyal as the Incumbents
🥹❤❤🍀🍀🙏🙏
khaling - painful to watch this video
I believe Gurkhas are employed through the British, maybe SG should give it thought for student that excel here.
No matter what our gov did lots of work planning rules n policies...is sad you need to go but thanks your dad for bringing you here to become so educated n respectful....hope you can use what you have learned n studied here with some luck to expend yr business....
Perhaps the former Gurkha residents of Singapore should prepare for their own destiny, outside of Singapore, after life in Singapore. Education in Singapore is the best in Asia, everything in Singapore is almost perfect but there is life after Singapore. Create your own business and identity outside Singapore and thank Singaporeans and their government for employing the Gurkhas and providing their family with a wonderful fringe benefits, while serving there. Life after Singapore is the perogative of the employee not the government. I still believe the Singapore government is fair to all. Thank you.
Maybe it is gov to gov promise that we can’t keep the children.
This is all at the end the effect of root cause of Nepalese and british Government ! They need to change the policy to address this issue immediately !!!
Did the contract not stating the fact clearly , before signing??
Why is the father not seated beside him answering all this questions??
Singapore is indebted to the Gurkhas.
Actually, it’s both ways. Win win situation. 😄
I wanted to seriously watch the video, but i got irritated of the background music. Great to see you suman
Noted. Sorry for that.
Wong Kan Sing? The worst ever DPM.
Watching from bhairawa nepal my grandfather was a retired gc inspector enlisted on 1952
Certainly! I'd be interested in having a conversation with him to uncover some forgotten history about the Singapore Gurkhas.
What is the name of your restaurant n where it is?
The name of his restaurant is NomNom and the menu entails of Singapore-influenced food like chicken rice, currypuff, mee goreng etc. due to him wholly growing up in Singapore.
If contract already stated and your father signed on the dotted line. I believe the contract was fully explained to your father at that time. Since you have a good education, just go work anywhere. Everything is a problem when you start a new working life anywhere. Don’t blame SG and seems like you are correct about your opinions. Please don’t forget that SG gave a better life to your family and your better self for many many years.
After watching your video, let me share what I know and thinking. First of all I am a Singaporean, welcome foreigners that can contribute to Singapore.. I can feel your disappoinment. I can imagine if I will you, how I will feel. You are looking at things at your level. If you bother to find out, the reason for such policy is national race identity. If Singapore allow you to stay, over times, gradually the ethnicity make up of Singapore will change. But, if you are a Chinese, Malaysia Chinese even better because Singapore believe Malaysia Chinese can intergrate better (they can understand about race sensitivity then China Chinese). This is the bigger picture that hope you can understand. So far if I am not wrong, no country in this world allows ethnicity to change significantly.....I believe Nepalese government also will not allow China immigrants to change Nepal make up.
Thank you for sharing your perspective. While it is understandable the reasoning behind Singapore's policy on national race identity, it's disheartening to hear about the challenges individuals like Suman face. It's important to consider the broader context and implications of such policies, even if they're rooted in preserving cultural identity. Your analogy regarding other countries and their approaches to ethnicity shifts is thought-provoking. It's a complex issue with no easy solutions, but dialogue like this helps broaden understanding.
He just hope can work here not become Singaporean
@@Humorousguy64 ... any difference?... In the Singapore workforce, foreigner restrictions is also highly regulated. If long years of working is a prerequisite for employment or citizenship then, Philippines maid, Bangladesh manual workers, etc will also ask for the same employment privilege. You must understand that the government of Singapore places Singaporeans interest at the top, not foreigners.
yeah last time i agree now all sorts of nationalities now become new citizens, filipinos, etc.. lol
@@premiermitsui5818 ... The main goal of new citizens is still the 3 main races. Others (including Nepalese) have to fight for that 1 or 2%...
Dherai ramro bholnu vayo.
Katmanthu best👍✌️🙏
I reckon, the founding fathers of SG, esp. Tough Old Man and Dr. Goh had thought about this many rounds and rounds in their heads. Unlikely, the authority will allow Gurkha Family to be rooted. Without a doubt, we need Gurkhas regiment to uphold our delicate and fragile Racial Harmony in case thing went very wrong. As LKY said even to the Malay Community, yes the World is unfair!!! it is not unreal.
get this to Pritam maybe he can help
Namaste babuji ,u should not regret.Cos' at least ur back in a(spiritual) land!What actually is there u can find, samsara n impermanence .😢😢namaska from a not wanting 2 be a singaporean...
Namaskars! Thank you for sharing your perspective. Returning to the spiritual land indeed offers insights into concepts like samsara and impermanence. Your sentiment of not wanting to be Singaporean reflects your personal journey and beliefs, which deserve respect. It's essential to understand that this video doesn't reflect any regrets about being a son of a Gurkha. Instead, it highlights the challenges faced by Gurkha children in integrating into their society in Nepal. Each individual's journey is unique, and it's important to honor and respect their paths.
Pls don’t blame Singapore for that, this is our rules and regulations in the contract, Singaporean respect every Gurkha Singapore 😊
Thank you for sharing your perspective. I don’t see if this video has blamed Singapore on any context but Mr Suman has only expressed his true experiences of being a Gurkha children. It's important to acknowledge that contractual agreements and regulations are in place, and it's not fair to blame Singapore for adhering to them. Understanding and respecting each party's commitments is crucial in any agreement. It's reassuring to hear that Singaporeans respect the Gurkha community and their contributions to Singapore.
We should do the right thing. Look at UK and how they treated and valued the Gurkhas. Shame shame shame on us.
those involved in the June 2008 scuffle in Mount Vernon protest, no chance 😅
Appreciate whoever did this video to cut off the background music! It's damn irritating!