Killer Drum Sounds From A Small Room? - RecordingRevolution.com
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One of the hardest instruments to record is a full drum kit.
With multiple microphones, phase issues, stereo pairs…
It’s enough to overwhelm even the most experienced producers and engineers.
Plus, what if you’re recording at home and you simply don’t have a huge live room you can use for your drum recordings?
Fret not.
In this week’s video, producer/mixer Jordan Valeriote (Silverstein / Neck Deep) shows you how to create massive drum sounds even if you’re recording a kit in a tiny space.
With these 3 simple tips, you’ll be well on your way to getting great drum sounds with this brand new video.
#drums #recording #smallroom
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Tchad Blake actualy loves the sound of the drums recorded in a small room.
I’d like to hear the full kit with the hall mic but without the reverb that was added to the close mics, I feel like that’s the purpose of the room/hall mic.
Also, using samples doesn’t give people a realistic impression of what you’ll get, so it’d be nice to hear just the actual mics with nothing but EQ and compression.
I realize using samples and quantizing drums is standard these days, but then again maybe that’s part of the reason rock music is in the state it is. We’re doing this from home and all trying our hands at audio engineering, so don’t let “industry” norms dictate your approach. Sometimes shitty is seriously better, that’s all I’m saying.
I used to record drums in a small bedroom all the time. I was never happy about the results. Funnily enough i found an old recording i had done which included a mic i had put in the hall downstairs with the bedroom door open. Once i brought that fader up it sounded great. So yeah it really works.
Hey Jordan, had the pleasure of recording in your first studio some 12 years ago and here you randomly popped up in my feed. Some great material here, great to see you're still doing what you love!
Awesome tips, thank you! Also don't let this slide past you either: if you pause the beginning, it looks like he's got 2 mics on the kick, 3 mics on the snare, 2 mics on each tom 1 and 2, mono overhead and hi hat, then the stereo room mics, 13 inputs.
The toms sound amazing!
For home recordists out there... I just got the best drum sound of my life in a normal sized room with nice reflective wooden floors and the door open to the hall. I don't have a gazillion mics so we used the overheads for the whole kit picture and honestly got the nicest tom sound I've ever had. If you're going for a more live organic rock feel then don't stress about making stuff dry, just experiment with what you have!
Love this, great vid Jordan!
EXTREMELY helpful!! Thank you so much for sharing this!
Great tips thanks. I had #1 room treatment sorted but I'm definitely going to reposition the OHs as cymbal mics and try a room mic just outside the door. Cheers
WOW, thank you for the his insane breakdown!!!! So relevant for my drum recording business I’m in the process of improving.
This was a truly incredibly bit of content man. Keep up the great work. Love from London/England
Good advice and thanks Jordan!
Dope! Thanks Jordan! :)
Excellent tips. The hird with the behind the door mic is a brilliant idea.
Really appreciate the advice. Thanks
This is a really helpful video, thanks!
Some stuff I was already working towards with the deadening and room mic but the overheads tips was an eye opener, this should improve things!
Great Info and ideas!
Amazing video!
Cheers Jordan!
Good, thanks
I must really be missing something, because I’ve never prepared any room I’ve set up in. I’m not sure why ppl think that matters so much, I record drums and live amps. I get ambience from reverbs lightly applied.
Foam works well I Record drums in a smaller room than that I get great sounding drums in my recordings Trick to it is the overhead mics height has to be lower to the kit and the distance has to be right
Hi Jordan , Thank your for sharing you setup with us , one question , your wild card Mike , how did you mix it into the stereo field ?
These great for some under ground artists
Just stumbled upon this video. Curious what the ceiling height was in that small room you talked about.
Hi Jordan! Great stuff, how did you set up the mudroom mics?
What do you guys think about building a box where the "hall" mic would go??? Would that make a similar effect??
Thanks. But I gather all these tips are in addition to having spot mics on all drums, yes?
What's the reason to put two mics in the next room if the mics aren't going to be in front of the kit to actually catch the left and right side with each mic?Can you explain how that is set up?
Great sounding drums this time. Useful and detailed knowledge, and great examples of strategic thinking, too. Great to watch.
How were the stereo mics in mud room placed? Were they spaced pair XY, as example?
Where do you point the mics in the closet?
Did you point them towards the drums while in the closet or did you point the mics away from the drums?
Thanks!
is the hall way insulated of just open with no padding?
This sounds good. I think your hallway is an ok replacement for a full tone and body of a drum / cymbal overtones.
Everything trial and error but I found many vids and heard the difference in actually keeping a snare focused angle on all surfaces gives a uniform group of sound waves. Obviously we can use , eq etc on each mic for the proper capture. While pointing mic away isolates the “noise” of that cymbal, it actually picks up unwanted room reflections instead of the direct instrument sound/balanced sound reflection resonance.
This method does require precise phasing / imaging of the sound but man it just ends up sounding great usually.
For a quick method I do like this method in vid and his results are great.
What do you think?
What is the thought process behind stereo room mics when compared to mono? I see they are hard-panned, is that adding to the "size"?
I think a single mono room mic would work just as well in a scenario like this, because in such a small space and behind a door, both mics are going to pick up the same thing. I.e., there's really not any appreciable "stereo" information to be picked up with the mics in that position.
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Awesome tips! But I must ask... how much of that example was sampled? The snare to me sounded ultra-sampled and quantized
99.9%
I watch Jordan’s channel regularly and can say that he does use samples but only as reinforcement. He does the best that he can with the real drums and blends in samples to give a little extra weight and punch in the mix.
The majority of the time Jordan uses samples very subtly, like 80% natural snare and 20% sample. Even less sometimes. This doesn’t sound ultra sampled to me personally, but I’m sure the drums are quantized. That’s just something everyone does now a days, but I don’t mind.
How important is it to center the snare in the overheads if you're high passing most of it out?
phase issues
how did you make those close mics sound so big by themselves?
samples
What if you carpet the walls and ceiling?
Did he used Drum Samples ? 🤔
Good video. People focus way to much on the spot mics on drums when in reality the overheads and room mic (or mics) are what you need to get right for a great drum sound, 2nd to kit tuning and a good player of course.
@1:15 "So how do we get those kind of results out of a small room?" I swear if he says samples...
What happened to graham?
Symbol lol
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Would have really liked to hear it without the samples!😌
Don't deaden the room, use abfusers and tube traps
Well feel like this channel is not relevant anymrore .
Keep in mind, lots a newbs start on this channel. I wish I was told about the "wildcard" mic when I started 5 years ago. The moment I threw up some mics outside my small room, made a huge difference.
Say whatever you want but for a fact Graham has helped lot of us audio hobbyist since a decade ago. Come on show some respect man..
You don't understand what les3barbes is saying at all. This is not newb or low budget content. Has not been for a little while.
@@akifakizieleo2364 graham made the channel good , now its really not what it was about this channel anymore soooooo yes not relevant anymore deal with it !!
No offense your drums sound great but a little bit generic
Hey where'd Graham go? These are great tips for a specific kind of drum sound. Sometimes you might want a more homey feel to the drums. If you want to hear a Sonor kit w/coated heads recorded in a small basement room with just 2 vocal microphones, check out my new indie alternative track on Soundcloud: soundcloud.com/brendtwatson/heartbreak-recipe ...this part just kinda bugged me --> 5:20 because there's nothing wrong with using less mics for a different sound. I personally recommend the Glyn Johns method because I've always got killer tones that way. Definitely good to use close mics if you're not using any samples...that's not very common these days tho. Personally I prefer keeping the core elements limited to as few tracks as possible - plus 2 mics was just easier to setup than 8, and an efficient workflow leads to better results in my experience - but again, that's a specific style. Still a good video, thanks for sharing!