The Deeper Meaning To Menace II Society That Most People Didn't Catch
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The problem was that so many dudes saw Menace, treated it solely as entertainment, and straight up continued to act the same way the characters in the movie did. The shit was baffling when I was younger. It was an obvious cautionary tale, but I really don't think cats digested it for what it was. I mean, you had Kurupt saying sht like "I'm going out looney like O-Dog". What kind of goofy sht was that? When I was younger I wrote "Niggas grew up on Menace and missed the fckin' point/No wonder they're six feet under or got football numbers in the joint." The whole movie can be summed up with what Pernell said during the jailhouse visit .. "You teach him better than I taught you, man. Teach him the way we grew up was bullshit.". Mfers did not take heed.
As a young teenager you pretty much wanna do exactly wut you r told not to do
That was a bar.
@@mvwi1appreciate ya
@@mvwi1appreciate ya
It’s 30 yrs now, I “laugh” when I hear mf’s talk about “these kids these days” ain’t nothing new going on…just didn’t learn, never truly grew up & left the gangsta rap 💩 behind them..
Is what it is..
I never sold drugs or shot nobody in my life ....and this is one of my favorite movies of all time
That's good shit congratulations
It had the good effect on you. It’s just like them old Wu tang albums as a kid. I got into shit but it wasn’t blindly like they taught. And never to knock my brother in any form or fashion
Facts bro probably my favorite movie ever
So what u want a cookie but you watched cus u entertained but won’t admit it & Yeen grow up how other mfs did so u csnt say wat you will do in a certain situation
You most likely grew up in the suburbs then but really low key wished you grew up in the hood.
Caine stuttering in the beginning lol …..”you know u f****d up right” ? 😂😂
🤣🤣🤣🤣
I’m cryyin 🤣🤣🤣🤣
I thought the same thing 😂
I was just thinken he went full into character
Think he was eating a donut before the interview
Baby boy, menace 2 society and boy in the hood had an impact on the culture
Baby boy is like a national tale. A little young guy trying to be grown, making pseudo-adult decisions while lacking maturity. Lazy, entitled, irresponsible, and selfish. This movie was basically about my cousin and a few of my uncles. That shit was so relatable, no matter what part of the country we are, everyone knows a Jodie.
I don’t know why South Central doesn’t get much attention. Great movie too.
Idk why but baby boy was hilarious to me. I laughed throughout the entire film
Players club too
& Scarface
If you make it out the hood and poverty and look back at how you lived and thought, it fills you with immense sadness. The world was so small and now i can acknowledge that I lived with immense incessant fear, both of what i was willing to do to someone and what someone could do to me. Had a psychotic break when i hit 27, and couldn’t even understand how I was still alive. I’m straight now, mostly, and go to therapy when the need calls. I’m 36 now grateful to be alive and I’m a High school principal right back in the hood making nearly 200k with a wife and kid. I drop down to my knees every so often and cry, thanking the all mighty Im still alive.
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I love this! Being from Chicago, I can totally understand. Hopefully, your testimony can help these young kids to believe they can make it out!
I’m happy for you brother and thank you for sharing. Continue to give back to the young men of your community when you can, they need positive models in their life. I grew up very rough as well. I ended up joining the military, this yr makes 16 years. I happen to be a “teacher” right now, on instructor orders, teaching new accessions their job. I get knuckle heads every few months and I find myself pulling them in and sharing my story and experience to get them on a better path. They need us.
I took it as an allegory to try and give back to the hood as best you can to help those still trapped and/or prevent it from continuing. Or better yet, inspire the rest to keep their heads up. #itsallProvidence
40 years old this past March. I too broke down at 25 when I made it past 18 and didn't know how. Looking back I'm grateful I had my grandma to give me the "rules of the game when you're a Black boy" and also keeping it real and telling what i needed to hear, not what i wanted to although TV and my environment did the heavy lifting. Not everyone is so lucky, and They designed it that way. #itsallProvidence
Glad to see Caine and A -Wax together!
🤣🤣🤣 niggaz still ain’t no snaps on the petro 😂
🐐🐐🐐
You mean Tyrin Turner and Mc eihts
@@Gameking92888 Yes that's what I meant.
Both Menace 2 Society and Boyz in the Hood taught me more about the hood and being that I grew up in a similar environment, I saw a lot of Caines and ODogs and some of them are dead and some are doing hard time. Classic movie hands down
Facts bro you told no lies. I know alot of them to. I watch those type of G's coming up and they would watch me play ball. Half dead most in prison. R.I.P Lester and D Jones 2 G's thats gone💯
How can a movie show you more than the streets???
nothing cool about it. there are some things those movies don't mention and if it did then nobody would (especially outside urban America) would think it's cool
@@aliensyndrome4280 Truth 💯 I grew up not just around it but I was involved in it.. I was around the shooters and the killers (There's a Difference between the 2 💯) and these Movies 🎥 can't show but so much and Don't show the REAL UGLY side to this shit and just how Ugly it can get 💯 They don't show the Feelings that's involved or... Anything.. They show the "cool" part about it.. but not so much the consequences.. Shit can get Real Ugly in the streets and some of them niggas be Real Deal Killers 💯 Most of the bodies dropping are coming from a select few people that have a Thirst for blood after they tasted it and know how to get away 💯 Not that that police really give a Fuck about solving murders anyway.. so.. Those Movies showed SOME but unless you REALLY been INVOLVED, you'll realize that they barely scratching the surface of this shit 💯 for instance we all got an insight on that Chicago Drill shit and who the killers and ect ect but I know enough to know that it's ALOT deeper than these people saying it is and alot of mfs got it wrong on who than did what to who.. Even the ones that they got right, it's more to it than they think it is as an Outsider looking in rather than someone in the mix that knows the details.. Even in my own city.. It's beefs going on so when Certain mfs die everybody automatically think these people did it when whole time they didn't and the mfs who really did it are a branch off from the beef and they hanging with y'all and they killed y'all man's 💯 Shit Gets Deep 💯 I know enough to know that the Main killers aren't the ones that's popular.. the real killers blend in and don't pop out as much.. It's Rare for a killer to gain alot of Fame 💯 Real Killers don't like that attention..
Odog was traumatized
that character most likely grew up in a fatherless household and suffered abused by his mother figure thus leading to extreme anger issues as a child,fistfights at school led to picking up a gun then that turned into gang affiliation,he was searching for love and acceptance like many other black males in the ghetto
Boom there it is💯💯
I wish they wouldve gave more insight into his backstory
That's why he was so respectful to Caine Grandparents. He wanted to feel part of a family, even for a moment.
@@GiantsRebel this to me shows he wasnt traumatized and all the bs people say. he saw some shit, but he knew he was taking things way too far (other than Revenge For Harold".Wax had to have seen more but kept it G. Caine saw his daddy merk someone With more back story we could humanize O dogg, without all that, hes just a madman just cause.
Caine was about to graduate and o was younger than him @@acezavala3816 they were both the young boys and o was younger. They only have 2 hours
Caine is the humanization of o dog. Some ppl too far gone. Caine was too far gone, he did too much.
Caine spoke for all of them “yeah, I do, now its too late”.
This is in my Top 10 movies of all times
What’s your top 10?
I worked at a school. And when I tell you, some grandparents are doing the parents job. Sad
New Jersey drive was another movie with many life lessons. Underground classic !
"THE HUUUNT IS ON....AND YOU ARE THE PREY"....,THAT FACE HE MADEWHEN HE SAID THAT TO HIS GPOPS ....BREAK MY HEART!
The way the camera is positioned, it looks like a giant is interviewing two normal sized men lol.
😂
Lmao 🤣 dawg. Very observant.
😂😂😂 facts
Fam 😂😂😂😂😂💀💀💀💀
A wide angle lens would of worked better,
Agreed, Eiht was & is BLESSED to have that unique deep/raspy voice to bless any track & it got him a straight ticket out the hood, young.
One of the COLDEST lines that EIHT EVER SAID…..
“ Pops thrown out,
NEVER had a Big Brother !
Put on the set when I could pick
the right colors ! “
The homey put me down with a half a key
Turned it into 3 now they buying from me
That doesnt sound like a hot line at all sounds very basic to me
That song was a low key masterpiece
"Turned to a key now they buying from me"......Classic
Nothing but the gangsta
It's HILARIOUS how he started out the video (Studdering), just like he was in the police station. 😂✌🏾
When I was coming up the gang bangers and pushers had all the dime females and that was the appeal of that life for me.
I’ve heard many people say this about the pimps, players, and macks back in the ‘70s. They had money, power, respect so they also had the badd women, fly clothes, and fly whips.
Not much has changed, women love bad boys…
@@geeknsneaks the same for 2005 and now
Same....
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Kane talking like he’s back in the interrogation room.😂😂😂
Caine was already dead,, that's why he answered the question "Do you care if you live or die?" By saying "yeah but now it's too late!" he was dead in the beginning..
That's what I figured also
Noo it was just his dying thoughts
I’m from South Carolina raised by my grandparents and it just like he said heavy influence from the hood and I’m 37 now and I look back at the traumatic experience I’m honestly happy to be alive n I have a lot of homies gone
Big ups from Aiken 🌙🌴
The story doesn't always have to end like the movies. Some people get out. Anything is possible. My 17 year old son is very much the opposite of me. I'm so proud. 😢
Lmao I remember someone started a theory that Caine was living through O dogg or some dumb sh*t
You're not making sense
I read the same article yo...that was crazy
@@Fashobet You asking me if I can read after what you posted is ridiculous. What the hell does "Caine was living O dogg" mean? You must have skipped class a lot.
I remember reading some dumb ass shit like that 😂😂😂
You are referring to to fan film 🎥 theory that O-Dogg was just Caine's bad side that didn't exist in real life. Some bogus theory that don't even make sense, they must to been high when they came up with that concept.
Caine stuttered like he did in that interrogation room😂😂
On the DVD commentary, the Hughes Brothers state that the film was made for entertainment purposes and not to be educational. They drew all the inspiration from “Goodfellas” and their environment, there are many similarities between the two films. Caine narrates his life just like Henry did. However ,in most recent years, the Hughes Bros. revealed that they made Menace to show White people how a black kid can become a product of their environment. They also used the violence in Italian mob movies to show the hypocrisy in American cinema. Caine lies in the hospital trying to recover from being shot and watches old gangster movies.
Showing reality will be educational even if it’s not intentional.
@@dm7744 FACTS! It can be an eye opener for some people
I remember when young dumb white kids thought that was cool. There are some things about the hood that these movies don't mention and if they did none of the white youth would ever copy this.
One of the most impactful movies of all time for me. I actually changed my ways after watching it, I related to Caine cause he did some gangster shit but he was conflicted. In the streets you gotta be all the way in or don't fuck with it. By the time he decided to make a change all that shit caught up with him and it was too late.
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The last word's spoken by Eiht in this clip said it all 🫡.
Without getting too convoluted, because IM NOT FROM THE HOOD, but i am black and knew MFs like this, menace was about accountability. Everyone in that movie eventually was held accountable for their lifestyle, and choices. That initself is a powerful message on how to navigate life, regardless of surroundings.
All these type of movies do for young black men is foster a desire to imitate the culture that it displays! These movies don’t really teach us anything!
Odog definitely was that friend in the hood that get a 1st of the month check so he quicker to shoot a gun without thinking of consequences
🤣
😂😂😂😂😂😂
Every hood is the exact same. A few corner stores owned by foreigners that got funded when they came here and absolutely no jobs so you have to find some way of transportation if you wanna be legit.. So yes the illegal route seems way more feasible at the time and the “ adults “ don’t really know anything better either so you just on your own.
Yup. You gotta teach yourself a lot.
Movie Still Fire 🍿 #Facts
Love & respect 🙏
Cane graduated and was on his way to college for a better life he was hanging around the wrong people and at the wrong places at the wrong time
😮 algo bien mirando desde ReynoTamaulipas 🇲🇽
I literally tweeted a few weeks ago that this movie is really about the consequences of being a young black man driven by pride
That Part!!
For some reason I'm Glad Eiht put the Grandpa in there. Back then black men and women stuck together and I knew both sets of my grandparents from that generation. I personally know dudes who grew up in single parent households and they are extremely immature and actually have feminine qualities...Like jealousy, gossiping etc. I don't really hangout with dudes who come from single parent households raised by women. A lot of those dudes are very dependent on their wives and it's like their wives are head of household. They never seen a man leading.
True
Thats black american men . Its men raised in 2 parent households who behave that way that has nothing to do with single parenthood . Men in the home STILL expect the women to only raise the children. In africa when husbands die the little boys still behave more manly than frown men. They fetch water hunt for food and take care of their families while young. In america yall are still being breastfed. The government paying for your housing fast food all around working water,light and gas. The complaining has to stop. Real masculine men are in africa with sometimes no parents at all. I dont feel bad for no man with a poverty victim mindset.
Man this ninja sound like he in the interrogation room all over again … you bought the bottle of beer at what time ??? 😂😂😂😂
The way he was stuttering when it first came on. 🤣🤣🤣
Haha lmfao😂😂😂Big Facts💪🏾💯
“Haha you see… you know you fucked up right… na na you see… you know you fucked up right?!” Niggastarted stuttering lol😂
💀🤣
You know you fuck up right 😂
One of the pieces of art that inspired me to tell The Story with this music.
I would love kind of a sequel to detail what happened to O-dog after Caine died. They barely touched on O-Dog's orgin story. Who was his mother, who was his father? Did he have a roof over his head? Did he get revenge on Caine's killer, or did he turn his life around, or did he get killed?
Probably prison, that tape was sent but he could’ve did all that before law caught em
Would be a DOPE sequel
@@OUrNit03 Or just an O-dog orgin story
@@tsunami2447 Agreed. Brilliant idea and that would flood the box office!!
@omarion7941 Or, or in a twist of poetic Justice he goes to prison and gets raped, and becomes sweet. Remember he killed that dopefiend for asking the unthinkable for a Gram of rock? It could be a movie that keeps it a brick, with no glorification. We all know if we have experience in the streets or any hood USA, that we all got a Idgaf Savage in our hood, and initially we think he is the hardest thing going, in and out of prison, got h03s, got all that real N energy, then we get older, and find out dude was flaming the entire time. I can see that being O-Dog
Im thankful cause the OGs and hustlers in my granny neighborhood saw i liked school and science so they kept me away from all that. I wanted to go with them but every time it was “ nah lil homie you got a good head on yo shoulders stick to them books” they was some real ones and i appreciate them
Thanks so much ❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤
I love this whole thing.true topics.
See, as a church kid growing up in the 90’s, i wasn’t allowed to see this movie. Thank God for my cousin Antoine, cause i saw it at his house, summer of 1993. Lol
At 44, i still get teary eyed at the end, watching Caine die.
- Signed 03/23/2024
And obviously you turned out ok and it shows your parents loved you mad facts.
Such a great CLASSIC!!
Edutainment! We need more of this in modern times
Why Tyrin interviews sound like he's lying about what time he bought the beer 😂 guilty sounding a..
This section of the interview speaks volumes
"tryna fit in in the hood" as Eiht said, can be so bad for the spirit. at least in my experience... cause as I get older I realize NO ONE is really takin the time to get to know themselves so it's like the beginning of some crazy shit
He still fine fine😍. As a former hoodchick, happy to see everyone grow up, and rise up above what we were "supposed" to do.
And the biggest question is why do we create these issues?
This conversation is very real
I agree his Grandfather's question in the movie was profound, but the CONVERSATION WITH CHARLES DUTTON WAS EPIC, " THE HUNT IS ON, AND YOUR THE PREY" CLASSICAL AND STILL TRUE TIL THIS DAY!!!!
HOOD CREDIBILITY DESTROYS OUR COMMUNITY, OUR PEOPLE NEED OPTIONS, MENACE TO SOCIETY WAS A EXCELLENT MOVIE!!!!!
Awesome
And this why POVERTY was created, lived in this nightmare too!
I could not imagine
Now this was interesting
O Dog turned back into a kid around Caine grandparents
I grew up in the 90s and the the youth didn't see it that way we saw gangster and nobody thought us better all the gangster movies come out back in the day and people my age wanted to be that it's funny how today movies and videos teatching the youth how to be gay and that's a fact
to make it out for sports now u NEED to go to camps, college visits, play offseason ball etc ALL that costs money
Caine is still studdering like he's being interrogated by Bill Duke saying you know you done fucked up right?
I turn 50 this year. I am a black American man. I am not from LA, but Menace resonated with my friends more that Boyz because we generally didn’t see “college” or “Atlanta” as saving us. As Caine said, y’all act like Atlanta ain’t America, they don’t give a fuck! Boyz was a bubblegum fairytale and menace was on a whole other level. Much better film!
Menace II Society is an incredible movie. It's not just "hood" culture that loves it. A lot of white conservatives think it's a great film with major depth.
No ones realizes but A wax was one of the best characters in this movie
Ay yo Wax lemmee get some links with them grits , i'm hungerier than a mofo out here! Me and my cousins knew every single line in the movie. Mad shout out I am sure I watched this movie more times than any other movie in my life.
A WAX: "THE FUCK I LOOK LIKE ALICE BITCH???"
Mc Ehit my favorite rapper to this day
Same here!💯
Tyrin started talikin like he still being interrogated
When Caine’s grandfather asked him if he wanted to live or die and Caine said “idk” I had to pause it. Such a deep piece of the film bc you could tell he wanted to live differently but almost seemed like there was no way out.
Real Talk
I watched this when I was a Freshman in HS we could relate because we all
Had friends living with grandparents or family that wasn’t mom/dad gangs shooting drug dealing. Entertainment? No we saw a lot we were living through
It would of been cool if Jada had a job in San Francisco not Atlanta cause San Francisco would of stay in the state of California not getting out of state
2:05 #itsallProvidence I LOVE this film. I caught that "trap" Us Black males were forced to navigate. Born an only child in NYC 1984, and having cousins in Baltimore, I saw this as a teen and cried. I noticed the unavoidable trap and that black cop still triggers me. I see them all the time in the NYPD.
All that to say; I've been developing a solution to the "hood trap" I'm perfecting to limit the likelihood of agent interference and sabotage.... Nipsey, Garvey, Shabbaz, Cyrus from the Warriors, etc. My secret, I found how to use their own system against them. Ten years in the making...
*”Caine do you care rather if you live or die?” 🤔 - MELL DUNEY 616*
One of my best friends play doc in the movie called menace II society p o o h man.....
Whenever a watch menace to society, boyz n the hood, or poetic justice, it always feels like a time machine.
They repeated the kid with the liquor and kid holding a gun scene, Caine was able to hold a gun and take a sip of the liquor while Anthony got in trouble for both of them
A dream (faith or hope whatever you want to call it) is the most powerful thing you can have. Without it..life can seem pointless.
Hey bro if you watch that movie as much as me, when they're walking in the convenience store in the very beginning if you look up to where they get the beer, there's body mirrors laid sideways from the ceiling to right above the beer cooler, and you can see the camera work following right behind him You can literally see the cameraman right behind them on a rail
💯💯💯💯Factz
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I was 6 years old when this movie came out in 1993😮😮😮
Caine wasn't peer pressured,Caine wasn't looking for a way out...He was an idiot that had his grandparents,his friends dad,shareef and "gf" wanting and showing him a better way. The drive through scene shows us Caine isn't a good person. Idk why people feel sorry for him,he willingly chose the bs.
Some people really missed the story behind this movie, Boyz in the hood, Baby Boy and several others. Wrote a paper on Baby Boy years back. My sociology professor was like "...i interesting".
I did too much to turn back too much to Go On..
This movie set black America back about 100 years. 😂
As a 38-year-old male who was raised in a middle class neighborhood and is not very street smart, this movie spoke volumes. One scene in particular that stood out to me, was when Caine stomped out Ilena's cousin. It reminded me of a physical altercation that I apparently almost provoked with a Latino family in the projects where I had a haircut appointment. As I was entering the building, a guy was walking toward the exit while pushing a stroller. The mother was with them, as well as their daughter (approximately nine or ten years old) who led the way. So I held the door for them. The little girl said, "Good day to you, sir." I smiled/nodded and said "Good day to you, too." Her mother, however, showed absolutely no gratitude, and instead just walked past me, followed by her father who "sized me up." My lack of street smarts was especially evident on another day when my barber was running late. I texted "I rang your doorbell, but nobody answered. I'm in front of your building." He replied, "My dad opened the door, so you can come up and wait for me. Don't stand down there. A lot of dumb stuff happens, and I don't want you to get caught up in the middle of something. The neighborhood has its ups and downs, if you know what I mean."
I can't help but wonder if I overstepped my boundaries with that family. Trust me when I say I wouldn't have said anything to their daughter if she didn't display that verbal act of kindness. So I had absolutely no malicious intentions, and therefore was just politely responding back. Or was her dad's unsettling manner just his "hood instincts." Do people who live in rough neighborhoods automatically treat every stranger like a suspect?
@@socalsocal88 I never made that connection. So, did I perhaps resemble someone he’s had a run-in with?
Most of the altercations I had out here are from people who think I’m somebody else. And there ain’t no time to explain I’m not who you think I am when somebody is already convinced you are, so you have to move like it’s really your problem
Wow. Ironically, when I told an ex on Facebook who I reconnected with, that I moved into my own place, she congratulated me... until I told her where I moved. She responded, "Oh... um... you know what? I'm not gonna say anything." Of course, she wanted me to pry as to what's on her mind. Otherwise, she would've changed the subject. And naturally, I was curious, which I really regretted, because she said, "Why'd you move THERE? That's like glorified projects." My regret is not out of fear of where I live, but rather the fact that she totally rained on my parade (feeling accomplished; another stepping stone in my life, etc.). Like, who does that? Anyway, she's basically a real-life Peter Griffin -- always speaks her mind, which is why I cut ties with her after that subtle insult. I don't need that kind of negativity in my life. As for the irony, nobody in my building acts like that guy in the projects, because it's a very calm, family-friendly environment where no gang members stray. So I don't know where my ex got the idea that I was living in a ghetto area.@@socalsocal88
If it was a Latino day he was probably a cholo and they don’t like us bro
well, here's the catch: I am black, but look Latino (I'm biracial).@@theblackmonk3153
Hell shit the thumbnail for this video look like menace to society 2
Menace ll Society was a complete breakdown of what was going on in my city and hood in St. Louis! 100% Match.
Straight up. My dad moved there in the 90s with my aunt to get off of drugs. I went to live with him on the south side and I was like damn this place reminds me of Newark nj where we are from. I related to all of the car jacking in the movie.
Same in Philly well every inner city neighborhood across America can relate to menace || society
I use to watch this movie every day Lol
I lived it.....
This movie is history forever real life facts
🤍🖤🤍I love this movie on everything I can watch it over and over again because I love the story line that you should not take life as a joke that life is very Inportant and take very seriously that you don’t know what when are where it will be your last breath also make better choices .. ps.. if you have grandparents too love you by showing you the way of the lord Jesus Christ man you better take and keep life too short thanks guys for this movie because .. remember the question his grand dad asked him do you even care whether you live or die and he said he don’t know and then at the end when he died he said it’s too late …
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My favorite movie of all time
Goodmorning 🔔🇺🇲
I'm grateful for another day💙💚
What they're saying should make people in the hood have meetings to build up the hood.. They're speaking the truth, but like they said, there is so much money in the hood legal and illegal. If black people want things to get better, they can make it happen or wait for gentrification to kick in, and once it does, you won't be talking about poverty anymore..Where I grew up in West Philly was clean and now it's even cleaner..I will make a video soon.
God bless you all🇺🇲
Add “The Wood” to that collection as well
All them L.A. movies in the 80s n 90s🔥🔥🔥🔥‼️
MESSAGE!
Caine looking like me at every HR meeting 4:24-4:32
Tyrin Turner And MC Eiht OG ‘s 💯💪🏾
You ARE what you "EAT", you ARE how you was "RAISED".
The most influential part has to be when he was talking to Sherfie father .The hunt is on and your the prey!
Everything they said is true and still applies today, I thank God for letting me see there is another way! then getting the the opportunity to pursue that way, even tho the hood tried to bring me down, I made it out, not just out of the physical but out of the mental, spiritual, emotional conditions I was in and under while being taught to think this was life, when in reality that mentality is a trap and leads to death. I hope more people realize they can come out of it and truly be something and someone, because I know too many that never made it out nor wanted to, I can't believe I use to think the same, I pray us as a people do better and become more. Most end there life before they truly begin to live it. This movie tells the story of how things actually are and were for some us, the story that some don't get the chance to express.
AMEN 🙏