I think the 3 ending have a good points and bad one. To be honest they are not perfect but real. I think these ending makes sense even in their bad parts. And of course the true ending is the gold ending♡♡♡ Thanks♡
the game has some lows on voice acting, we all know that. but listen to Serenoa saying "we will submit to Hyzante, and bring down Aesfrost in accordance to their wishes.".... you can really hear the hesitation and uneasiness
This ending spits on Dragan's legacy right in the face of his grieving father holy hell.. everything about this is awful, but that scene was the single worst
I went with Benidict's plan for the ending. I thought it was the best of the three options. Hyzant had to fall in my opinion. I thought about just fleeing and starting a new nation with Frederica, but I felt like we invested and sacrificed too much to just walk away from it all. Didn't know about the Golden ending until after.
Yeah, but now you’re under Gustadolph’s Aesfrost, where the gap between classes will continue to grow. Roland was right on that front. Hell, there’s a bigger wage gap between the richest and poorest people today than there was before the French Revolution.
As for the duels go, my suspension of disbelief was shaken a lot when she summoned a gigantic meteor and the main character just tanked it with a sword and won.
The game literally has magic in it like and it's actual inventions and how characters react to it I'm not sure why you think they're normal humans to begin with
It’s okay, she just didn’t have full TP As someone who also has used a low TP Sunfall out of desperation in-battle, can confirm the DMG output is depressing
I think the worst part of this ending for the game is, why would I want to replay helping Roland get the kingdom back if he's just gonna run away from his duty as king, weeks after being crowned? Why care about his struggle if his "best route" is to give control to another nation do the job for him? That's even without taking into account that Roland has seen and disagreed with the false peace they preach. Such an idiot
Seranoa is worse. People trusted him. He never went back for them. The part where he said to Roland “we dreamed of” makes them bad. How can you dream of a time where those you promised to protect are put at the Source?
I feel like people only diss this ending due to misconceptions of the story and the real world. For one, Hyzante has for the majority of it's citizens the best standards of living and is, if you ignore the treatment of unbelievers and the Rosellians, the most equal one, unlike Glenbrook, which is full of corrupt and disloyal aristocrats and Aesfrost, who preach freedom, but oppress a very large portion of the society for the few in power and its brutal chaos with no way to help the poor other than them becoming the few at the expense of their potential for good. It's literally meritocracy and the other is monarchy, all terrible systems with Hyzante's theocracy being obviously better, but being way more oppressive and totalitarian for the minorities who don't fit it; religious and ethnic ones in the form of the roselle. Now you all are going to say that slavery is objectively evil and I agree. It is evil and Hyzante is truly evil for using such people for their own ends. You get no word from me on this one, except for this: Benedict's ending is not better for minorities like the Roselle and the overall populace is far worse off than ever before. Salt is free and they are all now valued for their merit, but they can't improve their lives if the rich get most of it and when the gap gets better, especially when Benedict approves of them getting no help. No progress can be done under Serenoa's or rather Benedict's new regime. Norzelle needs a revolution, with a former slaver helping with it of all people. Frederica's ending is only bad, if you want to preserve Norzelle's future. If you don't then ok, it's not your business when the oppressors suffer. The Roselle are free, but the majority is engulfed in a dark age and it's not looking good right now or fir at least a few centuries. The point of this ending is that morally it is better than the other options(DISCOUNTING THE GOLDEN ENDING), since it benefits the most people, whereas Benedict harmed more and Frederica has given up on this continent. It still is the most totalitarian option and sacrifices utility, since Slavery is not the best system and I expect to see Hyzante lose it's power in the future if no one reforms it. No good ending, but from how the story presented it as, way better than for Norzelle than the other bad ending and the alternative ending, which is only bad or good, if you consider it your responsibility to help the continent. Also for a final rebuttal to the idea that this ending is the worst due to real life history: Slavery still exists in this world and it's not good. Even with Capitalism and years to get people elected in politics, slavery still exists in many countries and many of our amenities such as chocolate, coffee and some of our clothes come from slave labor. Not everything, but enough to warrant condemnation. So before you criticize Roland, look at our own world and we see not many differences. His ending is even better in some ways than our own world, but not in everything, since at least some countries acknowledge slavery as bad and we do something against it, but we have a long way to go, like Roland.
I disagree with the premise of your analysis as this ending does not benefit the most people. In reality, it only benefits Idore (and the saints to a lesser extent) who in the end gained full control over Norzelia. The people lost freedom of thinking to the point of not having the right to disagree with Hyzante's teachings without being branded as heretics and put in the source or executed. They lost access to knowledge (Ayxham intended to burn Aestfrost's library) so they can be more easily controlled and less aware of their conditions. Can we really call that "happiness" when this is the result of the combination of brainwashing, lack of knowledge and fear of being arrested ? As you pointed out, this too exists in our world in countries where political power and religion are not separated and leads to the kind of situation I described above. It's more like the happiness of the fool who is unaware of what he has lost or the ignorant not being aware of what he lacks. So no, it's not a good ending (neither are the others, that's the point of the game) but not only because of the slavery, but also because when religion makes law in a country it's generally not in the people best interests at all.
Roland was my least favorite character, just had to put that out there. Now this path is the one path I will NEVER go simply because of the "Sacrifice the few for the many". The idea that we can all live in prosperity, while a few ppl(An ENTIRE CULTURE!!!!)are stuck doing slave labor so we can all live in peace just doesn't sit well with me. At the end there (with Geela and the townsfolk) kinda surprised me. I'm glad she didnt give up the fight. Thanks for the vid and SCREW ROLAND!!!!
As much as I hate this ending, it showcased some of the most compelling and heartwrenching voice acting from Frederica. 8:27 - 9:17 is just incredible. Roland can choke though :)
Golden Route Spoilers (just in case) As awful as it is, I’m glad this ending exists. It’s considered a bad end by most of the fanbase, and for good reason. Out of all the endings, this one makes the most players feel the most uneasy- even straight up unnerved. And I think that’s the point. All the cutscenes shown after the final battle at Aesfrost are full of peace, and a facade of happiness, with Serenoa and Roland acting truly proud of the future they built. But the game doesn’t deliberately (or explicitly- it’s stated through text) show what’s happening to the Roselle and others deemed undesirable by Hyzante. It’s disturbing to imagine what’s happening And the fact that Roland gets much more characterization in other routes is telling as well- you could argue it isn’t even his route. It’s, quite literally, the only ending in the game that doesn’t involve fucking with Hyzante in some sort of way. While all the nations in Norzelia have their fair share of corruption, it’s deemed important (by all other endings) that Hyzante in particular is crushed (or at least subject to retaliation.) In the Golden Route, even Aesfrost, the country that tore apart the peace (albeit, fragile peace) that the realm enjoyed for 30 years, was mostly spared from fighting- and was even asked to side with House Wolffort by the very nation that Aesfrost invaded. The only ending in which House Wolffort sides with Hyzante is this one. While the causes of the Saltiron War were numerous, one of the main reasons for the violence has constantly been cited to Hyzante’s salt tax. The Roselle languish at the Source, and others deemed as “nonbelievers” are cast out or worse. There is peace, but only a facade of happiness for many of the Holy State’s citizens. It’s even revealed that the Holy Teachings are fabricated- a lie meant to constrain the Roselle, the people of Hyzante, and all Norzelia. And in this ending, it’s determined that Serenoa is to side with them. The consequences of the decision are clear and blunt. Serenoa and Roland become the puppets of another nation, one whose power already brutally grips the continent. Aesfrost is burned to its foundations, and a massive center of human cultivation and knowledge is lost. The Holy Teachings will claim more and more victims, whether or not they are guilty of the crimes Hyzante accuses them of. The Roselle will continue to be oppressed for generations to come, their sweat, blood, and loves sacrificed for the peace Roland wished for so badly- even at the massive expense of them. Humanity will remain at a standstill, constricted by the lies of a so-called Holy State. There is peace, but at what cost? Of submitting yourself, your family, your house, your kingdom, the entire realm, to a tyrant- to Idore? It’s truly a bad ending in every sense of the word. That’s why I’m glad it exists. Triangle Strategy isn’t afraid to show the full brunt and consequences each decision brings, and I’m thankful for it. It doesn’t make an attempt to claim the ending as “right,” or try to make it so your choice becomes “right.” The player is never given an opportunity to change Hyzante from the inside out. Serenoa and Roland become nothing more than puppets on strings. Exharme, in all his pomp and vigor, will never see the changes he wished for realized. And nobody else, not even the most powerful in the State, the Saintly Seven, will ever stand up to Idore’s power. You couldn’t do anything from the start. Sorry, I really rambled but I find this ending very interesting, and I enjoy feeling narrative consequences in video games. Triangle Strategy makes nearly every decision have weight, and that those decisions matter. You can steer the realm in whatever way you choose- for better or for worse- and the game really made me feel that.
Thanks for your insight. Always appreciate people taking the time out to give their analysis on games. I love the fact that this game tells you that actions have consequences. All character endings show that sacrifices must be made to achieve your goal. The Golden Ending is the only happy for all ending that requires the player to make different choices through out the game. Love this game for its story and choice options. Wish this gets a sequel!
I’m glad you rambled too. This game has some of the best writing I’ve seen in an RPG, and I loved that it actually made me feel things. I’m actually gonna check out the new chapter they just dropped recently, and I have high hopes for subsequent games by this studio.
Thanks for uploading this. I wanted to 100% the game and I tried to play this route the second time through... but I just couldn't. I just couldn't stomach Hyzante's bigotry against the Roselle. Even if Roland's plan was sound (and, if we're being honest, it's a ridiculously bad plan) that wouldn't change things for me. But I'm glad I get to see the outcome, to satisfy my curiosity at least.
You’re welcome. And yeah, not many people are fans of Roland’s ending. But then again, every character ending has problems. One party member leaves and something remains amiss at the end. The true ending does leave a good taste though :) everyone remains happy and we get a good wedding (wish it played out on screen)
Sorry Roland stans I just can’t condone the horrific crimes of Hyzante to ever side with them. Saying “the needs of the many out weigh the needs of the few” is real convenient when you personally aren’t part of the people suffering. The people who whip the downtrodden will never complain about a system that puts them over others
@@vincentwong3156 I’m shocked the rosellans living near him are ok with their oppressor walking around freely in that ending like idore is actually the most evil character in the game
The ending wasn't as catostrpic as I expected but it is still bad. A villain who condones slavery wins. Not only are you forced to believe in Hyzante's said goddess. But if you don't fallow the teachings your sent to the source or the mines. That's no way to live. So far gotta say Frederica has the best thoughts on this. Leave this unsustainable land and create a new kingdom. Also on a side note I'm surprised Benedict wasn't the one to rebel against Roland's choice. I mean house Wolffort is no more if you side with Hyzante or flee with Frederica.
@@akhafasu at least it didn't end with the majority locked up working at the source or the mines. Square could have easily made Roland's ending darker than it was.
Personally my order of endings from best to worst is 1. Golden 2&3 Benedict or Frederica 4. Quitting the game when reaching this point 5. Roland’s ending
i like how pretty much everyone agree that rolands ending is the worst, and that fredericas and rolands endings are a mix of wich of the 2 is better, and gold is best
@@ChillstoneBlakeBlast yeah I put both Frederica’s and Benedict’s endings as equally ranked but if you held me at Gunn point and said “pick one as definitively better” I’d prefer Frederica’s ending as bittersweet as it was.
My first playthrough, I played through Benedict’s ending as he was one of my favorite characters in battle and in the storyline as well as the need to take down the Holy State of Hyzante. I could not imagine giving up the crown for Hyzante and justify the Rosellas suffering so others can have a better life.
I think people fail to realise the import of Benedict’s ending. Roland is gearing up for something resembling a Bolshevik revolution, which means a LOT of bloodshed.
I wish there was some kind of online poll/database in the game that has the percentages of which ending got chosen in the first run through. Just to see how little people chose to go along with Roland's dumbass ending lmaooo
@@akhafasu i personally didnt like it, my least favorite of the three, even though the majority prospered, it didnt sit right how Hyzante was intending on destroying the Archives and how they were replacing historic infrastructure since they arent part of the faith. For some reason, even though everyone was happy and prospering, it just didnt feel right for some reason. I sided with Hyzante because woah holy country awesome, but I also quickly saw how sinister Hyzante really is and just became a love-hate relationship for me lol. What I used to look up to are actually the true villains of the entire continent. Using faith as a front to subjugate the entire people. Basically went from a respectable ally to a villain I very much enjoyed fighting against. Idore is definitely a very great villain. And out of the three regular endings, Benedicts is my favorite one, though I very much enjoyed the fight against Idore in Fredericas ending.
One of my least favourites. But I had to do all endings and this one didn’t turn out all that good, in fact all normal endings has a downside to things except the true ending - which is my favourite
@@akhafasu Yeah. Benedict's ending kinda sucked. I liked Frederica's ending overall. At the very least, I actually felt good freeing the Roselle. And the people in the Wolfortt domain get looked after. The last ending I do will be the golden ending. I won't do Roland's ending.
@@matthewc3135 I agree. Frederica’s was the first choice I went with during my first playthrough. Seemed to be the right one until I learnt of Serenoa’s fate. Also, if you need to complete all chapters and the Path Travelled, you’ll have to do all endings. Otherwise if you’re not looking for a game completion then you can leave it out :)
@@akhafasu Frederica's ending was also my first choice. Even with Serenoa dying, imo it's still a better ending for him. Rather it ends with him sacrificing himself to save his people, then him becoming king and executing people that are starving
I just wanted to get all the endings and yes, you are right - of all the endings, this is my least favorite. I kind of liked Frederica's. It was heartening, sad and yet served its purpose. True Ending is of course the best one for me :)
@@nomado.3855 personally I think faith and religion can be a very good thing that brings folks together. My problem is largely with organized religion that tries to make their leader a king or ruler and enforce their belief system on everyone. Hyzante is one such organized religion
I've only seen the three endings working on the true ending. I gotta say so far Roland's route is dead last. I wanna say Frederica's route is better than Benedict's but I'd be kidding myself. Maybe if there was a scene where Seranoa somehow survived but like lost his memory or something. Maybe then Frederica's route would top Benedict's. Still as it stands Frederica's route and Benedict's stand as equals.
We do at the start how he runs away from his responsibilities and always does what he wants to. In this ending he doesn’t change. But in the true ending he grows as a character
@@TheShanicpower I agree with you on this to some extent. But in Frederica’s ending he remains neutral while in Benedict’s ending, Roland has a disagreement. In both these cases there isn’t much character growth.
@@akhafasu Actually- I disagree… I personally thought Roland had some great character development in Frederica’s ending. He quickly realizes the gravity of his words and actions, and that they were heavily misguided right after Benedict leaves. He was forced to confront the reality of Hyzante- the nation he would have surrendered everything to. He is indignant at discovering the truth of Aelfric and true extent of Hyzante’s corruption and blatant disregard for humanity. Roland is once again reminded of what he had been fighting for earlier, and is no longer so easily blindsided by his desire of revenge- he’s too far away to even think of exacting it. I thought this line after the battle with Lyla was very encompassing of this- “If that’s the case, then the so-called ‘equality’ under the Goddess that Hyzante love to espouse… is nothing but hypocrisy.” With a decent grasp of his character, it’s clear that he feels immensely guilty, and that characterization works perfectly with the arc of Frederica’s ending. Roland already knew this, of course, because of the Diary of Orlaea and the Rosellan legend of salt within Norzelia. He already knew of the lie of the Goddess’s Teachings. Yet, in Frederica’s ending, the extent of Hyzante’s lies, hypocrisy, and brutality is shoved in his face. He is forced to grapple with the consequences of the decision he didn’t even get to make- of the consequences that would have happened, were House Wolffort go with his decision. HE would have been the one to be an accomplice to these acts of evil and inhumanity, and he is forced to tackle that head-on. Of course, his guilt doesn’t excuse his initial plan, no matter how hopeless and strained he may have been while making it. While he is still far (VERY FAR) from being perfect, he does recognize his mistakes and seeks to fix them by helping Frederica. For me, personally, I found it to be a very interesting characterization, one that makes sense within Frederica’s own arc- though his was in the background, for obvious reasons. It’s just… strange that he receives more development in an ending that isn’t even his own.
Just finished the game unspoiled, tho I wasn't able to get the true ending, no way in hell I'll choose this one lmao. Worst ending of all which just doesn't make any sense at all. I chose the Benedict's path not knowing it'll end there. In my mind after the Hyzante we'll get Svarog's aid and betray Gustadolph. Anyways time to start New Game+ and go for that Gold Ending. :)
Unpopular opinion but this is my favorite ending. You get to get revenge on Gustuv, the man who started this whole war. Most of the world is happy and well off. Serenoa looks happy in this ending (Unlike Benedict's), and Roland is happy too. Yet despite all that, you can't help but feel the nagging. All this good comes at a very bad price of the Roselle being doomed forever. The bittersweet feeling is done so much better here than the other non-golden route endings, and it really makes you think if the ends justify the means.
I’ve done the golden route on my first play through and Frederica’s too but for some reason every time I get to the point where I choose which ending I can never do Roland’s is just horrible I just feel so bad for Frederica
Doing this ending after finishing the Golden Route is a big pass for me especially when Svarog is shown blowing his nose in the picture after finishing it. This is will always be the ending that most of us would refuse to do.
I'm close to finishing the golden ending since i gunned for that route in my first playthrough. I decided to gun for the other endings when it fancies me but by god, I will only do Frederica and Benedict's endings since I hate this route with a passion lol Anyways, as for this ending, I hope Roland is fucking happy with himself for effectively rendering his best friend maidenless. Douche. lol
I’m glad this ending was SO FAR off the table for me my first playthrough, ESPECIALLY after finishing the Golden Route If it’s the needs of the many vs. the needs of the few, screw the needs of the many, I’m going to care for the few whom mean something to me Thankfully, the Golden Route exists
This route is a tough pill to swallow. On the one hand, the entirety of Norzelia has their basic needs met and fulfilled. Salt, water, you name it. For the most part, everyone is happy. On the other, people like Idore remain in power, and will continue to do so thanks to revelations in the Golden Route, and the Roselle are the backbone of this entire peace, and they will never rest. Though, then again, in Frederica's ending, we basically just say 'fuck all y'all' to Norzelia.
I chose this for my first playthrough because I wanted them white robes. Also, the good of the many vs. the good of the few. I didn't like that in Aesfrost, only a few got to live the good life while others hunger even for salt. In this path, everyone has salt except roselle but that's only like 10% of the population. Also, I fell in love with Roland lol. He's so hot.
Umm those who don't follow the goddesses teaching are forced into the same slavery at the mines or the source. I take it you didn't read what the end log said about that.
@@Crystal_Dylan the end log also said those who don't believe in the goddess teaching are sentenced to work at the mines or the source. Pretty sure the Roselle aren't the only ones suffering should you choose Roland's path. Though I agree with you this is terrible regardless.
@@TylerSilverscale true enough but those non believers at least had a choice that led them to it the roselle are given no such choice and that’s worse all forms of slavery and forced labor is horrible but I have much more empathy for one who is born a slave than one there by bad circumstance both aren’t good but one had a choice in the matter
I can’t bring myself to play tho route, so I will watch the video to spoil myself so that I won’t have the incentives to do it (Not that I will ever do it, I'm afraid I have to disagree 100% with this route)
@@akhafasu After that, they have to portray people viewing Frederica as a freak. The way they describe this ending might show a beautiful time for everyone. However, this is at the cost of the Roselles. It makes me feel bad and worried for Frederica; her efforts are probably all for nothing.
@@e.c7667 in Frederica’s ending, the Roselle are saved but all of Norzelia goes to war. Every ending has a downside no matter which you choose. That is except the True Ending
This route gets too much hate. Let's compare it to fredericas ending. In this ending you treat the roselle badly in order to let norzelia have peace. In the frederica ending you leave norzelia to a war where hundreds of people will die so the roselle will be safe. Either way you're screwing over 1 group to save another. They're both equally bad/good people just seem to ignore it because unlike Roland frederica never mentions the downsides of her route so people either don't realise or are happy ignoring the downsides of her route. Anyway benedicts ending is the best Anyway 🤷♂️
@akhafasu no I haven't but I did assume it was the best. When I meant best I meant best of the 3h since golden routed are pretty much always the happy ending. Looking forward to it after all the tragedy in the main game. Too bad exharme doesn't survive though. Really liked that guy
@@p0oka261 Yeah, all of the 3 normal endings have some downside. It's like in the world you can't always get what you want - there will always be consequences. But the True Ending is blows it out of the park. Do let me know when you see it :)
Frederica is worse, since the most of the reason she choses the Rosellan instead of the rest of Norzelia is because of hair colour. Making her a racist who thinks only people with pink hair deserves freedom.
Except the suffering in war torn Norzelia is equal across all groups and isn’t so deeply institutionalized. It’s more open and free if you will. The Roselle are explicitly tortured and whipped for maximum profit and restrained to the last limb. Every generation is equally restrained and butchered… Again, how convenient when you guys defend this route from your comfy perspective.
@@Anth2067 yup, that’s the character endings for you. Each has a main character leaving the party over their differences. Only the Golden Ending is where everyone is happy
Hands down the worst final in my opinion. I really appreciated the video because really couldn't bring myself to waste hours of gameplay just to see it
I find Roland and Federica's endings horrible. Roland's dooms an entire race of people to eternal slavery and Federica's has you abandoning the people of the Wolfort domain. The people you have sworn to protect you just leave them to their fate.
That’s the ending. To get something you must make sacrifices. Only the true ending is happy for all. I kinda liked this because it gave a very different view
@@akhafasu Except Benedict's ending you don't have to betray hundreds if not thousands of people. The only thing you lose is Roland who lets his personal feelings towards Aesfrost lead him to abandoning the war and all the people of Glenbrook. (Which only reinforces that Serenoa should be king. Roland being king in the Golden ending is a negative for the kingdom) Benedict's ending could even be seen as the better ending in the long term. It leads to the peasantry having more freedoms. Yes the ending shows poverty is rising but economically speaking free markets will be stronger and more resilient and ultimately lead to higher standards of living than command economies based on feudal rule.
I think this in general is the ending with the best outcome, you obtain peace, general happiness of population at the cost of roselle's freedom, no ending has so Many vantages, in Frederica's ending you obtain the freedom of roselle but Northelia is at war, a very long war, and in Benedict's ending you free the roselle but they are poor and they become thugs and murderers, also you obtain the peace but there is no sign of general happiness like in roland's ending
I disagree with you, they destroyed the "science" and the books in Aesfrost, the Roselle are still slaves for the good of the majority. Now a false deity rules the world with an Immortal man behind it, not sure it's a good thing. the "general happiness" in Roland's path is a fake and bittersweet. and not all roselle are poor and become murderers in Benedict ending, but a lot of them who were just slaves cannot find their way in the "liberalism". If you want to choose the best ending, you chose the "golden route". But if you want to debate, the roland ending is the worst by far , it's like the communism by the red khmers. you killed the intellectuals and the science and you made slaves.
Nah bro this ending is the actual worst it is so easy to be ok with slavery and oppression when you aren’t the ones being personally oppressed Hyzante is what the Nazis wish they could’ve become
that's the problem with roland's ending, no sign of bodies of the slaves and just give you "general hapiness" whereas in benedict's ending ONE rosellan die in front of rolan and he is MAD. he then choose to lick idore's boot again WHich would make rosellan DIE faster in mines. hypocrite at its best. I wonder why you would think that way.
Because Idor hides ANYTHING who could hurt his cult. He wants to his people to stay DUMB, that is why he controls the SCIENCE and MAGIC only for himself. He asked exharme to destroy the books for this. This is communism based. The roland ending is full of lies. The happiness is fake. Look at what Frederica has become in this ending. At least, the benedict ending shows really what the problems are and is honest. There are still poverty but at least people are free.
In a consequentialist perspective this ending is indeed the one which gives to the maximum of people the maximum of happiness One could argue all he wants about roselle being reduced to slavery or Hyzante's saints being cynical agnostics who use religion as a social control, people in the two other endings live like shit (if ever they live lol)
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I think the 3 ending have a good points and bad one. To be honest they are not perfect but real.
I think these ending makes sense even in their bad parts.
And of course the true ending is the gold ending♡♡♡
Thanks♡
the game has some lows on voice acting, we all know that. but listen to Serenoa saying "we will submit to Hyzante, and bring down Aesfrost in accordance to their wishes."....
you can really hear the hesitation and uneasiness
Frederica's VA is so amazing. Their duel is the most heartbreaking thing in the game.
You’ve got that right.
The game awarding you +2 Morality after Sycras's final words was so wrong.
This ending spits on Dragan's legacy right in the face of his grieving father holy hell.. everything about this is awful, but that scene was the single worst
Federica is best girl and I can't go against her like that.
Say what you will about the voice acting in this game of the other characters, you have to admit Frederica and Svarog's actors did an amazing job.
True. Almost everyone did an amazing job. The VA was fantastic
I went with Benidict's plan for the ending. I thought it was the best of the three options. Hyzant had to fall in my opinion.
I thought about just fleeing and starting a new nation with Frederica, but I felt like we invested and sacrificed too much to just walk away from it all.
Didn't know about the Golden ending until after.
Cool. Aim for the Golden Ending. It’s the best one
@@akhafasu yeah but it's best to not go through it on your first playthrough cuz you don't have enough characters
@@114bleachfan agreed. I did it on my 2nd playthrough
@@114bleachfan dammit, restarted a playthrough, so now i am worried
Yeah, but now you’re under Gustadolph’s Aesfrost, where the gap between classes will continue to grow. Roland was right on that front.
Hell, there’s a bigger wage gap between the richest and poorest people today than there was before the French Revolution.
As for the duels go, my suspension of disbelief was shaken a lot when she summoned a gigantic meteor and the main character just tanked it with a sword and won.
Lol. You got that right 😂
She had one TP, so Sunfall barely scratched him
The game literally has magic in it like and it's actual inventions and how characters react to it I'm not sure why you think they're normal humans to begin with
That's why they're technology is far different and unique in comparison to technology from our world at the time by comparison
It’s okay, she just didn’t have full TP
As someone who also has used a low TP Sunfall out of desperation in-battle, can confirm the DMG output is depressing
I think the worst part of this ending for the game is, why would I want to replay helping Roland get the kingdom back if he's just gonna run away from his duty as king, weeks after being crowned? Why care about his struggle if his "best route" is to give control to another nation do the job for him? That's even without taking into account that Roland has seen and disagreed with the false peace they preach. Such an idiot
Check out Benedict’s ending and see Roland’s fate in that one
Ronald's route is absolutely not his best route his best route is the True "golden" ending route
@@Crystal_Dylan no man i hate the character so much that it pains me to let him be the king
Seranoa is worse. People trusted him. He never went back for them. The part where he said to Roland “we dreamed of” makes them bad. How can you dream of a time where those you promised to protect are put at the Source?
The whole point is that he isn’t supposed to be king, though.
I feel like people only diss this ending due to misconceptions of the story and the real world. For one, Hyzante has for the majority of it's citizens the best standards of living and is, if you ignore the treatment of unbelievers and the Rosellians, the most equal one, unlike Glenbrook, which is full of corrupt and disloyal aristocrats and Aesfrost, who preach freedom, but oppress a very large portion of the society for the few in power and its brutal chaos with no way to help the poor other than them becoming the few at the expense of their potential for good. It's literally meritocracy and the other is monarchy, all terrible systems with Hyzante's theocracy being obviously better, but being way more oppressive and totalitarian for the minorities who don't fit it; religious and ethnic ones in the form of the roselle.
Now you all are going to say that slavery is objectively evil and I agree. It is evil and Hyzante is truly evil for using such people for their own ends. You get no word from me on this one, except for this:
Benedict's ending is not better for minorities like the Roselle and the overall populace is far worse off than ever before. Salt is free and they are all now valued for their merit, but they can't improve their lives if the rich get most of it and when the gap gets better, especially when Benedict approves of them getting no help. No progress can be done under Serenoa's or rather Benedict's new regime. Norzelle needs a revolution, with a former slaver helping with it of all people.
Frederica's ending is only bad, if you want to preserve Norzelle's future. If you don't then ok, it's not your business when the oppressors suffer. The Roselle are free, but the majority is engulfed in a dark age and it's not looking good right now or fir at least a few centuries.
The point of this ending is that morally it is better than the other options(DISCOUNTING THE GOLDEN ENDING), since it benefits the most people, whereas Benedict harmed more and Frederica has given up on this continent. It still is the most totalitarian option and sacrifices utility, since Slavery is not the best system and I expect to see Hyzante lose it's power in the future if no one reforms it. No good ending, but from how the story presented it as, way better than for Norzelle than the other bad ending and the alternative ending, which is only bad or good, if you consider it your responsibility to help the continent.
Also for a final rebuttal to the idea that this ending is the worst due to real life history:
Slavery still exists in this world and it's not good. Even with Capitalism and years to get people elected in politics, slavery still exists in many countries and many of our amenities such as chocolate, coffee and some of our clothes come from slave labor. Not everything, but enough to warrant condemnation.
So before you criticize Roland, look at our own world and we see not many differences. His ending is even better in some ways than our own world, but not in everything, since at least some countries acknowledge slavery as bad and we do something against it, but we have a long way to go, like Roland.
That’s a very well written analysis
Well said.
I disagree with the premise of your analysis as this ending does not benefit the most people.
In reality, it only benefits Idore (and the saints to a lesser extent) who in the end gained full control over Norzelia.
The people lost freedom of thinking to the point of not having the right to disagree with Hyzante's teachings without being branded as heretics and put in the source or executed.
They lost access to knowledge (Ayxham intended to burn Aestfrost's library) so they can be more easily controlled and less aware of their conditions.
Can we really call that "happiness" when this is the result of the combination of brainwashing, lack of knowledge and fear of being arrested ? As you pointed out, this too exists in our world in countries where political power and religion are not separated and leads to the kind of situation I described above.
It's more like the happiness of the fool who is unaware of what he has lost or the ignorant not being aware of what he lacks.
So no, it's not a good ending (neither are the others, that's the point of the game) but not only because of the slavery, but also because when religion makes law in a country it's generally not in the people best interests at all.
Frederica's VA definitely did an amazing job, plays a big part in making her the best character in the game in my opinion
I think the VA in this game is amazing overall. And their character stories further add depth to their character building
Roland was my least favorite character, just had to put that out there. Now this path is the one path I will NEVER go simply because of the "Sacrifice the few for the many". The idea that we can all live in prosperity, while a few ppl(An ENTIRE CULTURE!!!!)are stuck doing slave labor so we can all live in peace just doesn't sit well with me. At the end there (with Geela and the townsfolk) kinda surprised me. I'm glad she didnt give up the fight. Thanks for the vid and SCREW ROLAND!!!!
You’re welcome for the video and yeah, not my favourite ending either. They just destroyed his character by taking him down this route
It really doesn’t seem like Serenoa really even wants to go through this path after seeing the cutscenes
You’re right. He had to fight off his future wife to get this ending
As much as I hate this ending, it showcased some of the most compelling and heartwrenching voice acting from Frederica. 8:27 - 9:17 is just incredible. Roland can choke though :)
Agreed!!!
In my battle, Gustadolph got stuck in a roof by Ezana's paralyzing lightning then died by stepping on Rudolph's Steel Trap haha
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Late comment, but that is some god tier disrespect. I love it.
Golden Route Spoilers (just in case)
As awful as it is, I’m glad this ending exists. It’s considered a bad end by most of the fanbase, and for good reason.
Out of all the endings, this one makes the most players feel the most uneasy- even straight up unnerved. And I think that’s the point. All the cutscenes shown after the final battle at Aesfrost are full of peace, and a facade of happiness, with Serenoa and Roland acting truly proud of the future they built. But the game doesn’t deliberately (or explicitly- it’s stated through text) show what’s happening to the Roselle and others deemed undesirable by Hyzante. It’s disturbing to imagine what’s happening
And the fact that Roland gets much more characterization in other routes is telling as well- you could argue it isn’t even his route. It’s, quite literally, the only ending in the game that doesn’t involve fucking with Hyzante in some sort of way. While all the nations in Norzelia have their fair share of corruption, it’s deemed important (by all other endings) that Hyzante in particular is crushed (or at least subject to retaliation.) In the Golden Route, even Aesfrost, the country that tore apart the peace (albeit, fragile peace) that the realm enjoyed for 30 years, was mostly spared from fighting- and was even asked to side with House Wolffort by the very nation that Aesfrost invaded. The only ending in which House Wolffort sides with Hyzante is this one.
While the causes of the Saltiron War were numerous, one of the main reasons for the violence has constantly been cited to Hyzante’s salt tax. The Roselle languish at the Source, and others deemed as “nonbelievers” are cast out or worse. There is peace, but only a facade of happiness for many of the Holy State’s citizens. It’s even revealed that the Holy Teachings are fabricated- a lie meant to constrain the Roselle, the people of Hyzante, and all Norzelia. And in this ending, it’s determined that Serenoa is to side with them.
The consequences of the decision are clear and blunt. Serenoa and Roland become the puppets of another nation, one whose power already brutally grips the continent. Aesfrost is burned to its foundations, and a massive center of human cultivation and knowledge is lost. The Holy Teachings will claim more and more victims, whether or not they are guilty of the crimes Hyzante accuses them of. The Roselle will continue to be oppressed for generations to come, their sweat, blood, and loves sacrificed for the peace Roland wished for so badly- even at the massive expense of them. Humanity will remain at a standstill, constricted by the lies of a so-called Holy State.
There is peace, but at what cost? Of submitting yourself, your family, your house, your kingdom, the entire realm, to a tyrant- to Idore?
It’s truly a bad ending in every sense of the word. That’s why I’m glad it exists.
Triangle Strategy isn’t afraid to show the full brunt and consequences each decision brings, and I’m thankful for it.
It doesn’t make an attempt to claim the ending as “right,” or try to make it so your choice becomes “right.” The player is never given an opportunity to change Hyzante from the inside out. Serenoa and Roland become nothing more than puppets on strings. Exharme, in all his pomp and vigor, will never see the changes he wished for realized. And nobody else, not even the most powerful in the State, the Saintly Seven, will ever stand up to Idore’s power. You couldn’t do anything from the start.
Sorry, I really rambled but I find this ending very interesting, and I enjoy feeling narrative consequences in video games. Triangle Strategy makes nearly every decision have weight, and that those decisions matter. You can steer the realm in whatever way you choose- for better or for worse- and the game really made me feel that.
Thanks for your insight. Always appreciate people taking the time out to give their analysis on games. I love the fact that this game tells you that actions have consequences. All character endings show that sacrifices must be made to achieve your goal. The Golden Ending is the only happy for all ending that requires the player to make different choices through out the game. Love this game for its story and choice options. Wish this gets a sequel!
I’m glad you rambled too. This game has some of the best writing I’ve seen in an RPG, and I loved that it actually made me feel things. I’m actually gonna check out the new chapter they just dropped recently, and I have high hopes for subsequent games by this studio.
Thanks for uploading this. I wanted to 100% the game and I tried to play this route the second time through... but I just couldn't. I just couldn't stomach Hyzante's bigotry against the Roselle. Even if Roland's plan was sound (and, if we're being honest, it's a ridiculously bad plan) that wouldn't change things for me. But I'm glad I get to see the outcome, to satisfy my curiosity at least.
You’re welcome. And yeah, not many people are fans of Roland’s ending. But then again, every character ending has problems. One party member leaves and something remains amiss at the end. The true ending does leave a good taste though :) everyone remains happy and we get a good wedding (wish it played out on screen)
Sorry Roland stans I just can’t condone the horrific crimes of Hyzante to ever side with them. Saying “the needs of the many out weigh the needs of the few” is real convenient when you personally aren’t part of the people suffering. The people who whip the downtrodden will never complain about a system that puts them over others
100% agreed
Agreed.
AMEN
he was angry when a rosellan die in his present in benedict's endings. decide to lick idore's boot again.. a disgusting character.
@@vincentwong3156 I’m shocked the rosellans living near him are ok with their oppressor walking around freely in that ending like idore is actually the most evil character in the game
Am I the only one who felt bad killing Sycras :/
You and me both. I wish he was recruitable
The ending wasn't as catostrpic as I expected but it is still bad. A villain who condones slavery wins. Not only are you forced to believe in Hyzante's said goddess. But if you don't fallow the teachings your sent to the source or the mines. That's no way to live. So far gotta say Frederica has the best thoughts on this. Leave this unsustainable land and create a new kingdom. Also on a side note I'm surprised Benedict wasn't the one to rebel against Roland's choice. I mean house Wolffort is no more if you side with Hyzante or flee with Frederica.
I chose Frederica’s path on my first playthrough but had to see all the endings. And yeah, I’d consider this the worst one
@@akhafasu at least it didn't end with the majority locked up working at the source or the mines. Square could have easily made Roland's ending darker than it was.
Personally my order of endings from best to worst is
1. Golden
2&3 Benedict or Frederica
4. Quitting the game when reaching this point
5. Roland’s ending
@@Crystal_Dylan lol at quitting 😂
@@akhafasu I mean I’m not wrong though leaving it up to a mystery cliffhanger would be better than willingly going along with actual slavery
Poor Frederica. This route just breaks my heart for her, especially that ending.
I felt really bad for Serenoa in Frederica’s ending. T’was sad
i like how pretty much everyone agree that rolands ending is the worst, and that fredericas and rolands endings are a mix of wich of the 2 is better, and gold is best
Imagine bending the knee....
@@ChillstoneBlakeBlast yeah I put both Frederica’s and Benedict’s endings as equally ranked but if you held me at Gunn point and said “pick one as definitively better” I’d prefer Frederica’s ending as bittersweet as it was.
My first playthrough, I played through Benedict’s ending as he was one of my favorite characters in battle and in the storyline as well as the need to take down the Holy State of Hyzante. I could not imagine giving up the crown for Hyzante and justify the Rosellas suffering so others can have a better life.
I think people fail to realise the import of Benedict’s ending. Roland is gearing up for something resembling a Bolshevik revolution, which means a LOT of bloodshed.
I wish there was some kind of online poll/database in the game that has the percentages of which ending got chosen in the first run through. Just to see how little people chose to go along with Roland's dumbass ending lmaooo
Yeah. I agree. A scales of conviction for endings 😂
I intentionally sided with Hyzante 100% of the time in my first run 💀
@@dabbingboidabs4286 how did you find the ending then?
@@akhafasu i personally didnt like it, my least favorite of the three, even though the majority prospered, it didnt sit right how Hyzante was intending on destroying the Archives and how they were replacing historic infrastructure since they arent part of the faith. For some reason, even though everyone was happy and prospering, it just didnt feel right for some reason.
I sided with Hyzante because woah holy country awesome, but I also quickly saw how sinister Hyzante really is and just became a love-hate relationship for me lol. What I used to look up to are actually the true villains of the entire continent. Using faith as a front to subjugate the entire people. Basically went from a respectable ally to a villain I very much enjoyed fighting against. Idore is definitely a very great villain.
And out of the three regular endings, Benedicts is my favorite one, though I very much enjoyed the fight against Idore in Fredericas ending.
@@dabbingboidabs4286 I agree that Roland’s is the worst of the 3 character endings. Have you seen the true ending?
This is the one ending I refuse to do.
One of my least favourites. But I had to do all endings and this one didn’t turn out all that good, in fact all normal endings has a downside to things except the true ending - which is my favourite
@@akhafasu Yeah. Benedict's ending kinda sucked. I liked Frederica's ending overall. At the very least, I actually felt good freeing the Roselle. And the people in the Wolfortt domain get looked after. The last ending I do will be the golden ending. I won't do Roland's ending.
@@matthewc3135 I agree. Frederica’s was the first choice I went with during my first playthrough. Seemed to be the right one until I learnt of Serenoa’s fate. Also, if you need to complete all chapters and the Path Travelled, you’ll have to do all endings. Otherwise if you’re not looking for a game completion then you can leave it out :)
@@akhafasu Frederica's ending was also my first choice. Even with Serenoa dying, imo it's still a better ending for him. Rather it ends with him sacrificing himself to save his people, then him becoming king and executing people that are starving
@@matthewc3135 well said
Thanks for uploading, clearly worst ending. Doubt anyone would go this route willingly.
I just wanted to get all the endings and yes, you are right - of all the endings, this is my least favorite. I kind of liked Frederica's. It was heartening, sad and yet served its purpose. True Ending is of course the best one for me :)
I fucking hate religions, and this is a very awful ending, living a lie, golden route ending forever.
@@nomado.3855 At Sereona be king route, despite that route called freedom route, however at the end, Sereona got bound on the throne.
@@nomado.3855 personally I think faith and religion can be a very good thing that brings folks together. My problem is largely with organized religion that tries to make their leader a king or ruler and enforce their belief system on everyone. Hyzante is one such organized religion
I've only seen the three endings working on the true ending. I gotta say so far Roland's route is dead last. I wanna say Frederica's route is better than Benedict's but I'd be kidding myself. Maybe if there was a scene where Seranoa somehow survived but like lost his memory or something. Maybe then Frederica's route would top Benedict's. Still as it stands Frederica's route and Benedict's stand as equals.
I like it how the good guys now are seen as the bad guys. Roland has to be one of the worst characters for this.
We do at the start how he runs away from his responsibilities and always does what he wants to. In this ending he doesn’t change. But in the true ending he grows as a character
@@akhafasu He grows in all endings but his own.
@@TheShanicpower I agree with you on this to some extent. But in Frederica’s ending he remains neutral while in Benedict’s ending, Roland has a disagreement. In both these cases there isn’t much character growth.
@@akhafasu Actually- I disagree… I personally thought Roland had some great character development in Frederica’s ending.
He quickly realizes the gravity of his words and actions, and that they were heavily misguided right after Benedict leaves. He was forced to confront the reality of Hyzante- the nation he would have surrendered everything to. He is indignant at discovering the truth of Aelfric and true extent of Hyzante’s corruption and blatant disregard for humanity. Roland is once again reminded of what he had been fighting for earlier, and is no longer so easily blindsided by his desire of revenge- he’s too far away to even think of exacting it. I thought this line after the battle with Lyla was very encompassing of this-
“If that’s the case, then the so-called ‘equality’ under the Goddess that Hyzante love to espouse… is nothing but hypocrisy.”
With a decent grasp of his character, it’s clear that he feels immensely guilty, and that characterization works perfectly with the arc of Frederica’s ending. Roland already knew this, of course, because of the Diary of Orlaea and the Rosellan legend of salt within Norzelia. He already knew of the lie of the Goddess’s Teachings. Yet, in Frederica’s ending, the extent of Hyzante’s lies, hypocrisy, and brutality is shoved in his face. He is forced to grapple with the consequences of the decision he didn’t even get to make- of the consequences that would have happened, were House Wolffort go with his decision. HE would have been the one to be an accomplice to these acts of evil and inhumanity, and he is forced to tackle that head-on.
Of course, his guilt doesn’t excuse his initial plan, no matter how hopeless and strained he may have been while making it. While he is still far (VERY FAR) from being perfect, he does recognize his mistakes and seeks to fix them by helping Frederica. For me, personally, I found it to be a very interesting characterization, one that makes sense within Frederica’s own arc- though his was in the background, for obvious reasons. It’s just… strange that he receives more development in an ending that isn’t even his own.
@@iwoulddieforsomeanniechuns7996 agree with the last part. More development in another ending
Just finished the game unspoiled, tho I wasn't able to get the true ending, no way in hell I'll choose this one lmao. Worst ending of all which just doesn't make any sense at all. I chose the Benedict's path not knowing it'll end there. In my mind after the Hyzante we'll get Svarog's aid and betray Gustadolph. Anyways time to start New Game+ and go for that Gold Ending. :)
This is the only non golden ending where everyone’s standing like “what the fuck, we’re actually doing this?”
😅
Unpopular opinion but this is my favorite ending. You get to get revenge on Gustuv, the man who started this whole war. Most of the world is happy and well off. Serenoa looks happy in this ending (Unlike Benedict's), and Roland is happy too.
Yet despite all that, you can't help but feel the nagging. All this good comes at a very bad price of the Roselle being doomed forever. The bittersweet feeling is done so much better here than the other non-golden route endings, and it really makes you think if the ends justify the means.
That’s the thing about this ending. You get to make a great sacrifice for the benefit of the many. It’s a harsh reality but that’s what it is.
I’ve done the golden route on my first play through and Frederica’s too but for some reason every time I get to the point where I choose which ending I can never do Roland’s is just horrible I just feel so bad for Frederica
I hear ya
Doing this ending after finishing the Golden Route is a big pass for me especially when Svarog is shown blowing his nose in the picture after finishing it. This is will always be the ending that most of us would refuse to do.
You're not the only one
I'm close to finishing the golden ending since i gunned for that route in my first playthrough. I decided to gun for the other endings when it fancies me but by god, I will only do Frederica and Benedict's endings since I hate this route with a passion lol
Anyways, as for this ending, I hope Roland is fucking happy with himself for effectively rendering his best friend maidenless. Douche. lol
At least in Benedict’s ending, Frederica becomes queen of Glenbrook.
Worst. Wingman. EVER
I’m glad this ending was SO FAR off the table for me my first playthrough, ESPECIALLY after finishing the Golden Route
If it’s the needs of the many vs. the needs of the few, screw the needs of the many, I’m going to care for the few whom mean something to me
Thankfully, the Golden Route exists
Welcome to the Roland’s Ending Sucks club :)
Glad to be here 😆
@@AkemiTheSunbro lol
This route is a tough pill to swallow.
On the one hand, the entirety of Norzelia has their basic needs met and fulfilled. Salt, water, you name it. For the most part, everyone is happy.
On the other, people like Idore remain in power, and will continue to do so thanks to revelations in the Golden Route, and the Roselle are the backbone of this entire peace, and they will never rest.
Though, then again, in Frederica's ending, we basically just say 'fuck all y'all' to Norzelia.
All character endings have a downside to them. Only the true ending makes everyone happy and is best for Norzelia and it’s denizens
I chose this for my first playthrough because I wanted them white robes. Also, the good of the many vs. the good of the few. I didn't like that in Aesfrost, only a few got to live the good life while others hunger even for salt. In this path, everyone has salt except roselle but that's only like 10% of the population. Also, I fell in love with Roland lol. He's so hot.
Lol @Roland. Well we all have our reasons :D
So if you were roselle in this world and treated like absolute shit from birth until death would you still be okay with this? Don’t lie
Umm those who don't follow the goddesses teaching are forced into the same slavery at the mines or the source. I take it you didn't read what the end log said about that.
@@Crystal_Dylan the end log also said those who don't believe in the goddess teaching are sentenced to work at the mines or the source. Pretty sure the Roselle aren't the only ones suffering should you choose Roland's path. Though I agree with you this is terrible regardless.
@@TylerSilverscale true enough but those non believers at least had a choice that led them to it the roselle are given no such choice and that’s worse all forms of slavery and forced labor is horrible but I have much more empathy for one who is born a slave than one there by bad circumstance both aren’t good but one had a choice in the matter
I can’t bring myself to play tho route, so I will watch the video to spoil myself so that I won’t have the incentives to do it (Not that I will ever do it, I'm afraid I have to disagree 100% with this route)
Yeah, Roland’s ending is probably the worst in the game
@@akhafasu After that, they have to portray people viewing Frederica as a freak. The way they describe this ending might show a beautiful time for everyone. However, this is at the cost of the Roselles. It makes me feel bad and worried for Frederica; her efforts are probably all for nothing.
@@e.c7667 in Frederica’s ending, the Roselle are saved but all of Norzelia goes to war. Every ending has a downside no matter which you choose. That is except the True Ending
@@akhafasu I haven’t even played Frederica’s route, but it’s kind of obvious what will happen to the rest of norzelia if it’s only about the Roselle’s
@@e.c7667 I’m sorry if I spoiled it for you then. I need to be more careful about such stuff. Sometimes I forget in all of my excitement 😅
Terrible ending. It made Seranoa and Roland awful characters in the end.
I agree
This route gets too much hate. Let's compare it to fredericas ending. In this ending you treat the roselle badly in order to let norzelia have peace. In the frederica ending you leave norzelia to a war where hundreds of people will die so the roselle will be safe. Either way you're screwing over 1 group to save another. They're both equally bad/good people just seem to ignore it because unlike Roland frederica never mentions the downsides of her route so people either don't realise or are happy ignoring the downsides of her route. Anyway benedicts ending is the best Anyway 🤷♂️
Have you seen the true ending yet? That’s the best one
@akhafasu no I haven't but I did assume it was the best. When I meant best I meant best of the 3h since golden routed are pretty much always the happy ending. Looking forward to it after all the tragedy in the main game. Too bad exharme doesn't survive though. Really liked that guy
@@p0oka261 Yeah, all of the 3 normal endings have some downside. It's like in the world you can't always get what you want - there will always be consequences. But the True Ending is blows it out of the park. Do let me know when you see it :)
Frederica is worse, since the most of the reason she choses the Rosellan instead of the rest of Norzelia is because of hair colour. Making her a racist who thinks only people with pink hair deserves freedom.
Except the suffering in war torn Norzelia is equal across all groups and isn’t so deeply institutionalized. It’s more open and free if you will.
The Roselle are explicitly tortured and whipped for maximum profit and restrained to the last limb. Every generation is equally restrained and butchered…
Again, how convenient when you guys defend this route from your comfy perspective.
GODDAMIT 😳😳🤯 FREDERICA USED HER MOST POWERFUL SPELL ON SERENOA?!
@@Anth2067 yup, that’s the character endings for you. Each has a main character leaving the party over their differences. Only the Golden Ending is where everyone is happy
@@akhafasu yeah i know i Made Benedict and Roland ending and they both fight Serenoa but DAMMIT Federica has The Best batle
@@Anth2067 that’s true 😅
The 'bruh moment' path.
Lol
Poor Svarog 😢
😢
Am I the only one who also feels bad for killing Gustadolph?
Gotta admit, I felt the same first time too
This should be called the twilight zone route 😂 it's creepy!
Lol
The Path of worst ending.
Ah the one vote I found too repulsive to try!
You’re not the only one, lol. The comment section is filled with similar thoughts
Hands down the worst final in my opinion. I really appreciated the video because really couldn't bring myself to waste hours of gameplay just to see it
You’re not the only one upset with Roland’s ending 😅
I find Roland and Federica's endings horrible. Roland's dooms an entire race of people to eternal slavery and Federica's has you abandoning the people of the Wolfort domain. The people you have sworn to protect you just leave them to their fate.
That’s the ending. To get something you must make sacrifices. Only the true ending is happy for all. I kinda liked this because it gave a very different view
@@akhafasu Except Benedict's ending you don't have to betray hundreds if not thousands of people. The only thing you lose is Roland who lets his personal feelings towards Aesfrost lead him to abandoning the war and all the people of Glenbrook. (Which only reinforces that Serenoa should be king. Roland being king in the Golden ending is a negative for the kingdom)
Benedict's ending could even be seen as the better ending in the long term. It leads to the peasantry having more freedoms. Yes the ending shows poverty is rising but economically speaking free markets will be stronger and more resilient and ultimately lead to higher standards of living than command economies based on feudal rule.
@@HisShadow I will admit his is better than the other two. But it still feels like being in power but not in power.
I think this in general is the ending with the best outcome, you obtain peace, general happiness of population at the cost of roselle's freedom, no ending has so Many vantages, in Frederica's ending you obtain the freedom of roselle but Northelia is at war, a very long war, and in Benedict's ending you free the roselle but they are poor and they become thugs and murderers, also you obtain the peace but there is no sign of general happiness like in roland's ending
I disagree with you, they destroyed the "science" and the books in Aesfrost, the Roselle are still slaves for the good of the majority. Now a false deity rules the world with an Immortal man behind it, not sure it's a good thing.
the "general happiness" in Roland's path is a fake and bittersweet. and not all roselle are poor and become murderers in Benedict ending, but a lot of them who were just slaves cannot find their way in the "liberalism".
If you want to choose the best ending, you chose the "golden route".
But if you want to debate, the roland ending is the worst by far , it's like the communism by the red khmers. you killed the intellectuals and the science and you made slaves.
Nah bro this ending is the actual worst it is so easy to be ok with slavery and oppression when you aren’t the ones being personally oppressed Hyzante is what the Nazis wish they could’ve become
that's the problem with roland's ending, no sign of bodies of the slaves and just give you "general hapiness" whereas in benedict's ending ONE rosellan die in front of rolan and he is MAD. he then choose to lick idore's boot again WHich would make rosellan DIE faster in mines. hypocrite at its best. I wonder why you would think that way.
Because Idor hides ANYTHING who could hurt his cult. He wants to his people to stay DUMB, that is why he controls the SCIENCE and MAGIC only for himself. He asked exharme to destroy the books for this. This is communism based.
The roland ending is full of lies. The happiness is fake. Look at what Frederica has become in this ending.
At least, the benedict ending shows really what the problems are and is honest. There are still poverty but at least people are free.
In a consequentialist perspective this ending is indeed the one which gives to the maximum of people the maximum of happiness
One could argue all he wants about roselle being reduced to slavery or Hyzante's saints being cynical agnostics who use religion as a social control, people in the two other endings live like shit (if ever they live lol)
If Serenoa was a good character, he'd say "Ugh stupid bitch" prior to dueling Frederica
Also Benedict>>>>>>>>>>
Lol