Silures British Celtic Tribe from South Wales
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- Опубліковано 15 вер 2024
- First episode exploring each of the Celtic tribes of ancient Britain.
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I’m from South Wales, my bloodline is from the Rhondda valleys as far back as any of us know, I have dark olive skin and black curly hair, people have always said I look Spanish but now I know, and I can also confirm that the Rhondda and the Silure warrior spirit has never and will never die 😂 ⚔️ 🏴
My nan had dark curly hair big brown eyes.olive skin
Thank you for concentrating on the Welsh Celts.
Are we really celts though ?
@@tonytrismegistusroberts5124 depends what you mean by Celt. Are the welsh descendants of the Britons, Roman Britons, Celts etc. Personally i believe you are british celts given the history. Whatever was left of roman britons would have survived amongst them when the saxons made their push.
@@joshuaperry7199 I mean Britons are not Celts that's part of a created narrative.
@@tonytrismegistusroberts5124 no such people as the Celts but there are Celtic tribes and the dna and linguistic similarities show the British isles is absolutely Celtic
@@joshuaperry7199 whatever way you look at it the Britons were Celtic and Roman occupation never changed that
Silure here, hair was jet black, very dark eyes, generally light skin, but have passed for Spanish in Spain, sibling passes for Middle Eastern. No known ancestors outside Wales/Ireland for generations upon generations.
I am born and raised in the heart of the silure tribes territory. I can tell you those type warriors are still knocking about in 2021 8n South Wales . Especially the valleys.
Filius Silurium (Son of the Silures)
From Rhondda here, and i keep telling people the Valleys are still the same as thousands of years ago. still very tribal fighting our neighbours lol.
Me too and yes I agree!
@@saguntum-iberian-greekkons7014
Meibion Siluriaid in Cymraeg.
@@BC_JoshieOld Welsh joke - I can't fight you, I don't know you 😂 👍
Silure here, I can definitely see us being an absolute stubborn pain in the arse.
Great vid mate. Interesting that Ross Broadstock and his BHH channel are discovering areas of Gwent high up in the wooded hills that may be showing evidence of being ancient Silurian villages/ burial sites with astonishing thick walls that may be thousands of years old. See Garndiffaith, the Lasgarn Wood and Blaenavon community woods, all in the Eastern Valley of Gwent with Pontypool at the centre of it. Garndiffaith translates as either the bleak grave mounds or the multitude of grave mounds. Lasgarn translates as the blue grave mounds, although the area used to be called the British Carn Woods, or the British grave mound woods. Also, re the resolution of 30 years of fighting. Some have speculated that Cardiff, Welsh Caerdydd, comes from the City of the Treaty, or Agreement, when the two sides agreed to cease fighting. The Romans then built Caerwent as the Silurian civitas, or capital. It’s a great place to visit as the Roman remains are impressive, though nearby Caerleon is more visited as it gets more publicity. Not sure they were ever subjugated, as there is evidence their leaders and king line continued down to Arthrwys, or Arthur, of Gwent, who was also of Silurian stock and bloodline. He was no legend, either, or myth, but a real King of Gwent and Glamorgan. He is regarded as a legend because of all the later English and French literature about him that introduced many fanciful romance features and even the Holy Grail.
I find it to be a very compelling era in history, sadly all too often neglected
Thank you will look
Rhi’n ni yma o hyd!
I never say I’m welsh(for it’s a Saxon word!)I say I am Silurian!
Ok space lizard
There is a docotor who villain called the silurians and doctor who was rebooted in wales i wounder if there are any connections
But you’re speaking English which is a Anglo-Saxon language
@@roses2122 because the English forced us to stop speaking our own language research the welsh not
My ancestors, Romes biggest headache! Oooh yeahhhh, c’mon fam…. ond…. Ry'n ni yma o hyd! ✊🏻🏴 Beli Mawr of Siluria is my 56th Great Grandfather.
Reading the comments that ferocious warlike tribe made many fans haha.
It would be cool to know even more on that tribe
Thank you for the video it was very interesting even if there were no mention of the battle (which i really love to read about it)
You make the Welsh people very pride, I love Welsh :) i mean CYMRU
The Silures were a Celtic Cymric tribe who spoke a common language with others. The Cymric ranged from what is now Brittany (Armorica), Cornwall, Wales, the Lake District and parts of the North of England and the South of Scotland. The communality of language was the binding factor for the Cymric. The Romans heard a language still widely spoken in Cymru (Wales) for daily interactions now. There is not a single native speaker of gaulish in the whole of France ( formerly the larger part of Gaul in Roman times), whilst Welsh is still spoken in Brittany. The great King Arthur was a post Roman Sillwyr (Silure) who was crowned at Caerleon in Silures territory. Alfred Lord Tennyson wrote the "Idylls of the King" whilst staying in the Hanbury's House in Caerleon and wrote to his wife declaring "I sit, like King Arthur, at Caerleon". As for the Welsh being driven from England, they have always occupied the land coextensive with modern Wales.
absolutely loved it I am from south Wales xx
I'm planning to come there hopefully this year only ever been to North Wales. My daughter wants to see the castles and I'm going to be covering them while I'm there. Hopefully the druid capital too 😁
@@NerdWorldHistory you will get a good welcome we are a friendly lot.🙂🏴
Another thing youll be extremely interested in when you come to south wales, is the fact that glamorgan and gwent form a vast interconnected system of early warning forts, traditionally re-activated in the time of arthur(6th century), but originally used against the might of rome. These ghosts on the landscape have been largely forgotten, hidden by trees and over the last century of coal mining and resultant slag heaps. But looking on old 19th century maps it is plain to see how well defended siluria/essyllwg was. Every river and valley entrance has its promontary forts, now sadly unexplained vast tumps of earth on the hills and mountains, each one visible to at least 2 other forts. This made glamorgan n gwent extremely difficult to attack and make in roads. From swansea to the severn near forest of dean, from the coast to the brecon beacons, the entire interior was guarded. Its amazing!
@@legolasgreenleaf1961 Heddwch
Fantastic stuff! Just a shame it’s such a short video. I would love to hear more.
Hiya thank you for doing the South Wales tribe, what they beat them….. no wonder they were afraid of the welsh.
Looking at my ancestors, It looks like I may have had a distant ancestor that was of the Silure tribe area. Thanks for the info, Good video.
Silurian man here. I live 10 minutes drive from Isca, the Romans fortress in Caerleon. English did similar with their cadtles- to keep the Welsh under control!😂 Silures ymlaen !!
Thank you for this video. I will be visiting a Silures Fort this summer in South Wales
Cool, I’ve not had a chance to get down there. Where you visiting? If you don’t mind me asking?
@@NerdWorldHistory I thought I replied to this. Yeah sure the western edge of the Brecon Beacons Carn Coch. I'm pretty sure the Silures occupied the whole of the Brecon Beacons at one point in time.
Cardiffian here, been yold. i look Maltese. Did my Dna 80% Welsh 15% English 5% Irish. Been able to trace my family back a thousand years to the Princes of Powys.
very good video,south wales born.i knew about the silures,but learnt a bit more thanks
Mate thanks for thr info, its gonna help loads with the book im trying to write about the Britons point of view in the face of the roman invasion and occupation.
Great channel I’m a new subscriber now! Thanks for this. My great grandfather is Welsh ( born in Maesteg) but he didn’t have curly hair and he certainly wasn’t dark. He was blonde and blue eyes. Perhaps this is due to Viking invasions? 🧐
I think modern Britain is a bit of a mixed bag I for example have Irish, English, German and Spanish just on my mothers side over the last few centuries
More than likely that's true. Look at some dark Irish and British people: Catherine Zeta Jones is Irish and Welsh, James Mason and Cary Grant certainly looked Mediterranean. Thinking of some old Welsh rugby players who had dark looks, Gerald Davies comes to mind, Gareth Edwards too, and Mervyn Davies, who did have curly hair.
5000 thousand people from south Wales had a DNA test and I'm one and all Welsh people in south Wales were genetically the same people as all over Britain so the silures were ancient Britons DNA all the way back to ice age and don't forget king Arthur was a silure tribe member
i remember this testing. DNA don't lie.
To anybody from the south wales valleys claiming: ' I'm Silurian - I've got olive skin,curly hair' etc is frankly, fantasising.
_So_ many people moved into the valleys throughout the 19th century because of coal. For example, the population of the Rhondda in 1851 was only *1,998* ; a mere Sixty years later it was an astonishing *152,78* .
A great deal of those immigrants came from the west of England - Devon , Cornwall but also a lot of Irish.
Any Silurian blood would've been completely dilluted......
The Silures is a Roman name for the glorious, unbeaten Essyllwyr. The Welsh name for the Severn estuary and its neighbouring country was Bro Essyllt, Essyllwg, Syllyr, and or Silwria in later prehistory. This riverine district was anciently known and distinguished by the names ‘Syllwg’ or ‘Essyllwg’, ‘Tir Essyllt’, and ‘Gwlad yr Essyllt’ which are all strictly synonymous, and which included the whole of the present counties of Glamorgan and Monmouth and a part of those of Hereford, Gloucester and Brecknock. Their inhabitants were accordingly called ‘Syllwr’, ‘Essyllyr’, ‘Essyllwr’ or ‘Essyllwyr’.
So they defeated 2 legions? One at the fort and another in a open battle? It is written that the tribe was changed neither by kindness or cruelty.
The records seem to be lacking as to what exactly happened to the tribe. They did eventually assimilate into the empire but how that was accomplished was left out or has been lost. At least I can't find any record of it and people I've spoken to don't seem to know. However it happened they were a stubborn bunch that took alot of effort for the empire to conquer
South Wales born and bred here :)
Cantabric (north Spain) Warrior leader vs the Romans was called COROCOTA., and he Also gave the Romans a very hard time.
So did Viriatos of Lusitania.
I'm welsh with irish and spanish roots good to know my ancestors were all a pain on the establishments ass lol
Alan wilson UA-cam talks about the legendary story of Brutus of troy and a people arriving in Britain around 1500bc or 500bc i can't remember.
Im also silure, from valleys... I have darker skin and dark curly hair so ur spot on butty boy
They were native Celts, just like a lot of modern Welsh, they had dark hair and eyes, I would guess that they spent their time farming and practicing fighting, basically a tan coupled with the darker hair gave them an "exotic" look for the time and place.
And they could have been not so genetically related to other Celtic speakers but they learned the language or had it enforced upon them. I wonder if most of those living in Western Europe before the Indo-European speaker invasions of 2,000 to1,000 BCE had dark hair and swarthy looks, and obviously some of that genetic trait is still existing today? One point to make is the Basques, whose men have the identical R1b DNA, the same variant, as exists with men in Wales, Ireland, and Cornwall. R1b DNA is predominant in Western Europe males anyway. They were never proto-Celt or Celtic speakers. Matriarchal society. If they were conquered by proto Celts, the moms taught the old language and it didn't die out. Maybe with the Silures whatever they spoke initially died out with Celtic speaking invaders, but they must have been rather isolated in South Wales to not intermix much with those with light hair and skin nearby. Also, there's that story of Milesians invading Ireland, the Gaels from the northwest of Iberia. Galicia is considered a Celtic nation in Spain.
@@ldfreitas9437 Exactly. I was just trying to express that there's no need to ascribe exotic origins to the Silurian people. There are a lot of R1B Celtic tribes living in various parts of Europe. By adapting to differing weather and nature over a long period, some Celts were very pale - like see through, whilst others look closer to southern France or Spanish people. My father Thomas Powell Jones was black haired and dark eyed. That's what attracted my mom, who was mostly Scottish with red hair, to him. She always said that she thought he looked to her like Southern European. However, he was actually a hard drinking Welsh ladies' man! RIP Tad.
@@Jamestele1 Yes, and there's Catherin Zeta-Jones, half Welsh and Irish. Sean Connery certainly was ''dark." Michael Bradley, former Irish scrum half, dark. Tony Ward, the former Irish #10, is half Russian-Jew by his father. He didn't know that until his daughters had their DNA checked and he looked more into his dad's background, since he died when he was fairly young and not around much anyway. I have a Portuguese background. Myself and some of my first cousins had blond or dirty blond hair as little kids. We all ended up with dark hair by the time we started school. My dad's father, an immigrant to America in 1915, had auburn hair, and only two first cousins of mine had it, as their dad, my uncle, inherited it.
@@ldfreitas9437 My father is a Welsh Jones and is dark looking with black hair.
@@ldfreitas9437 That totally makes sense. My father, Powell Jones, was Welsh, but looked "Southern French" or "Spanish" according to my mother - I never really met him. My mother was the more more typical Celtic looking, Irish gal with reddish hair, blue eyes, etc. She was attracted to my father at first because of his "exotic look". My Y-DNA is R1B, and I have close matches to more Spaniards than other parts of Europe, so there is evidence to your point. I could probably have great conversations with someone like you. I am a lover of cultures: Mine (Irish/Welsh), Asian, Africa (the cradle of human life), etc. I get into learning about different cultures. We are not robots, we are humans, and we're all related, which perturbs the xenophobes and racists, but I love learning and tasting all the wines and foods of the world. Peace
My Ancestry research led me to Time Team, which led me here. Very cool video.
May I commend that Wales has 750 forts some of them so big that one wonders how on earth
they went about constructing these . Then there is the fact of The Lost 10 Tribes of Israel , some
of them ended up in what is northern Turkey and were called the Cymarians andthe name Cymru . They moved into Briton around 500 BC . Their king Brutus great grand child of King
Ananaes of Troy who build a Fort on the Thames named New Troy . The Royal Line carried on in
Gwent and Glamorgan. The Kings of this Royal line reserved the right to be king over the whole of Britain in times of war. The location of Gwent and Glamorgan was ideal , protected from
immediate attack. The family tree from King Brutus goes as far as queen Helena mother of Constantine the Great , King Arthur 1 & 2 .
Early Welsh writers who translated every Ancient Welsh text manuscript and genetic genealogy
registrar debunked the Trojan origin as pure fabrication Cymru/ Cambria derives from Brittonic
some confuse the name with Cimmerians and Scythians who's Culture was Iranian 2 different
origins.
@@Mia-dh4ev it cant be a fabrication mia as there are vast amounts of information on these early migrations into britain. Brittonic or celtic whichever way u look at it are modern theories, the result of which tell us nothing about any kings or battles or anything. I've continually read that cymry derives from the brittonic word 'combrogi' yet there is absolutely no proof of this. No one in wales has ever heard the word combrogi, so it would be interesting to see how academics come up with this hypothesis. Yet in ancient assyria where the ancient britons traditionally claim origin, the ten tribes are named as khymry, the exact same spelling of the ancient khymry in britain. This to me carries far more weight than simply saying we are brittonic celts.
@@legolasgreenleaf1961 indeed, and then you have Cymro mutations appearing in place names throughout the middle east. Lingustic similarities with Welsh and Hebrew. The evidence is overwhelming.
@@Mia-dh4ev Cimmerians were known as the Bet(h) Khumry, of the House of Omri by the Assyrians and we have place names that that use Welsh mutations. We also have Linguistic evidence that connects Hebrew and Welsh.
@@taffyducks544 Hebrew and Cymraeg have nothing in common besides some accidental homophones.
98 % of morden Welsh people are related to these ancient people we are one
@Anthony Mitchell why do some people assume Silures were dark skinned? there are African Americans who say the original inhabitants of Ireland and Britain were black, and we stole their identities lol.. I mean, these people are embarrassing themselves. I feel bad for them.
@@Lee-sd8uo never dark skinned as in black but tanned more Mediterranean
@@Texasmade74 Exactly. And in the Medieval period, many with dark hair and olive skin in the British Isles and Ireland were referred to as being black or dark. Ann Boleyn had that distinction, and her sister had fair skin and was blond.
Blackamoors or the moors could have been olive skinned, brown or black, but not just black as some suggest today.
@@Lee-sd8uo Yes, I agree, and there's a page here on You Tube that claims the same about the Silures, with the comments turned off! I guess some are unaware that the words black or dark in Briton and Ireland in the Medieval period was used at times to describe people with dark hair and olive skin who were Irish or Britons, as with descriptions of infamous Ann Boleyn. So, Catherine Zeta-Jones, who is British (Welsh) and Irish could have been called "black" way back then. There's an old Irish tune about "Dark-haired Jimmy Owens" that I've heard sung by the Corrs I believe?
@@Lee-sd8uo Well, they were described as such by Roman writers, but that meant this tribe might have looked more like them, Italians, or Iberians, than most of the people they encountered in Britannia or Gaul.
Love it. when people resort to deleting comments and such. Especially after saying how important open discussions are.
Three of Rome's greatest generals combined to combat Caradoc/Caractus , war king of the silures, and he beat them! NO! Wales was NEVER conquered by Rome. They concluded a treaty that gave Wales great freedom and autonomy, in return for being allowed to station a FEW troops there.
Hey dude im just glad i can talk to others that know their shit about this period in time.
Ive got a question mate, and please dont think im having a dig at Welsh pride, its just a question.
I haven't seen any evidence that the romans made a treaty with them which granted them their freedom; and if they were indeed free, then why were so many troops stationed in their land? There had to have been a reason for them to be there, a reason that benefited rome. Perhaps they collected taxes/tribute? As part of this treaty. In which case; were they really free?
Personally i believe they did become subdugated eventually, though hands down they truly were able to show the romans what Celts could do. Respect to them.
One thing that is certain, that not many people seem to acknowledge, is that the british line of kings persisted right through the so called roman period of 400 years. Surely if they conquered the silures, the royal line would have been suppressed or even extinguished as in other areas of europe. The fact is you have bran then caradoc(caractacus) then ceri longsword, then baram(bonnasus,who usurped the empire in britain), after this time you have lucius who founded some of the first churches in britain. Even at this point we're still in the 160s ad! After rome wrestled some control back, by the 260s ad carawn(carausius) is running britain himself, then by the 320s ad the british empress helen is empowered enough to ensure her british born emporer son was christian, then by 383ad magnus maximus (mascen wledig) is powerful enough to lead a british army into gaul and kill roman emporer gratian, in 406ad constantine coronog(the crowned) is again showing the british to be independent by taking his armies into gaul to confront the vandals. How could honorius write to poor defenseless brits when the armies are controlling britain and gaul? There could not have been any roman domination like the experts say of 400 years, its nonsense and disrespects the kings and emporers that ruled from britain. Even caesars TWICE failed invasions of 55 and 54bc are convieniently forgotten, these military acheivements by people like arviragus, caswallon, cynfelin(cunobelinus) should be spoken of positively from the perspective of english history. These lloegrain kings of the southeast, descending from the the house of coel(old king cole)(bc) should be celebrated. For some reason the powers that be want the english people to believe that they are all descended from germanic anglo saxons, vikings and normans, and ally themselves to rome when these people had not yet arrived in britain! Its especially crazy when even now, dna wise up 60 odd percent of english people share the same ancient british genes as the welsh! In short there should be a much more positive mindset to english history with regards to their ancient khymric and lloegrian ancestry. To my mind it should be incredibly unifying!
@@legolasgreenleaf1961 mate you've just opened up a whole new category for me. I feel ashamed that i know nothing of those kings during the build up to the dark ages. Obviously i know all about Caesers attempts on Britain and then ofcourse Claudius's successful invasion.
I was so proud of my DNA results. Apparently i descend from the britons of the ancient kingdom of Strathclyde. Since finding that out i started learning welsh.
Dunno if you might be interested dude, but im currently writing a book on how i believe the tribes could have rallied together behind a figure like e.g. Vercingetorix; and drove the romans out. They would then establish a Brythonic kingdom thst would make up modt of the island. Then ofcourse what the consequences of that would mean.
@@joshuaperry7199 sorry so late responding. As to why Rome wished to maintain a garrison there- economics/trade. The amount of trade Rome had with Britain was phenomenal, measured in billions today. Such business REQUIRED a very large presence of Roman citizens,and Rome used this as an excuse to REQUEST a military presence- to protect its citizens/ interests there. Much like today, when a nation gets its ass handed to it militaraly, it then seeks to subjugate/infiltrate by economic means. As long as Rome could maintain ANY foothold they thought they had a chance- fools! Britain wasn't Romes equal, Britain and Her people out-classed Rome very nearly across the spectrum of human development. As to why Britain allowed a Roman garrison- it was a small concession seen as no threat, to continue the trade between them. The treaties were between individual tribes and Rome- they are still extant in several ancient histories, if one digs deeply( don't expect ANY help from " official academia " ).
@@legolasgreenleaf1961 There are privately published books available( not in most, if any public libraries on the subject- INCREDIBLY FASCINATING! Great amounts of DOCUMENTED information deliberatly being withheld from the public. The truth has been buried, but buried things can be exhumed. All know Britain once ruled the waves, but almost no one knows Britain once ruled Europe and Asia Minor through Her blood-line princes for more than 1500 years ( Constantine, Charlemagne,etc.). This is TRUTH: The current Queen of England can trace her lineage all the way back to King David of Israel. One only has to look at the standards/ensigns/symbols/flags of Britain, and compare them with ancient Israel to know this. This explains nearly all western history( AD ).
It is known :-) 650 A.D. after the Trojan war. The Welsh were the Khumry. Celt is rather a culture of a certain time period. The first Celts were the La Tene down my area in South Germany, former Roman Empire. Je - Rusilum was almost certainly Je- rusalem and it was located in South Wales - SILURES = Rusilum.
Wrong the Hallstatt and Urnfield were early than the La Téne culture.
I shared, so the downplaying of South Wales 30 years, woaw, so they never never conquered us then.
Great synopsis from scant sources!
The Cymru / Silures were decedents of the great migrantions from the east. Sumarria Egypt area, Cimerians / Cymru. The people's of modern day Wales share over 70 % of their DNA with the likes of king tutankhamun whilst modern Egyptians share as little as 5%. Hieroglyphics can be read using the root meaning of the ancient Cymric language / welsh. See Cymroglyphics by Ross Broadstock on u tube. The term Celt is thrown around far too much these days to pigeon hole many people's.
Oh! By the way, great programme. The native indigenous population of the Britons is usually airbrushed by mainstream Anglocentric academia. Gwaith Da, Heddwch. Good work, Peace.
So that’s probably why I had Iranian in my DNA analysis
@@daisyroots8926 yes. HEDDWCH/ PEACE
My ancestors
Interesting, I had my DNA tested with Ancestry.com for Christmas just gone. The DNA shows that 90% of DNA has been in modern Cymru borders for over 1000yrs, with 1% Ireland, 2% Liverpool (though a 1000 yrs ago it was within Cymru) 3% Scotland and the remaining 4% is equal measures Norway and Sweden (2% each) found within the isles 500-700 yrs ago. I wonder if there is a commercial test kit that goes back further than 1000yrs
Thank you Silures. With the Silures, the Romans would have overrun Wales.
While they put up a bell of a stand against the Romans, Rome ruled all the UK south of Hadrians wall in the end.
Dr who and the Silurians. Get your John Pertwee on 😉
Lizard people walk among us, don't let people tell you any different! And there are dinosaurs in space!
The Silures who were described as "swarthy complexion" and "prevalence of curly hair" likely came from Iberia and likely mixed with the western isles...Spain hadn't existed at the time of the Silures. very good video! My question is why you have those pale faced 6Kings(ViKings) on the thumbnail ....contradicts the description.
Why is an African concerned with history that doesn't involve him? 😂
There a tonnes of people going on a wild goose chase in the comment
Loved this thank you !
ZIL (PRONOUNCED AS AN S) = SPROUT UR = WATER . That sound like basque a lot. -Sprouted form the Sea.-
I am descended from the Silures and we and the Irish are descended from Basques. We are the same peoples.
One of the celtic tribes some of my ancestors come from
Many darker skinned Welsh can be found in south Wales, I have this complection and we don't lose our hair
The Silures were basically " cheddar man " looking people. Definitely got wiped out by the roman catholic church😪
I can still speak my celtic language
And I. From Southwales mad that's right were I am from in wales we are darker than the city people
love your channel
The Jews have black curly hair also
Some experts think Welsh are "The lost tribe of Israel" maybe they did come here. but there were people in Wales already since 10's of thousands of years ago.
Which battle is it that the Silures defeated the Romans?
Annoyingly the Romans don't tend to record their defeats too well, I'm sure I once read the battles name years ago but on my life I can't remember it, but it was the Roman second legion that was beaten
@@NerdWorldHistory yeah true, but not only Rome but most big empires don't record their defeats, thx for answering sir
@@NerdWorldHistory 9th legion wasn't it
Ooh I'm king of silura. There's not alot of Information about it though.
Silures were not Africans. They might have been dark, but that does not mean they were some lost sub-Saharan African tribe in Britain as suggested in another video on this site. There are dark looking Britains/Irish. I'll mention some: Catherine Zeta Jones, James Mason, and Cary Grant, rugby player Martin Johnson. They spoke Celtic, but might not have been genetically connected as much to other Celtic tribes in Britain or the Continent. Were they more related to Celt-Iberians or Iberians? Were they there from the end of the last Ice Age? Historian Barry Cunliffe, by the way, has suggested that Celtic customs were adapted by the Indo-European invaders who became Celtic language speakers. In the Late Stone Age, there seems to have been an "Atlantic Fringe" people who built the stone circles along and near the Atlantic shores from Morocco to Denmark. The Bell Beaker people occupied much of Western Europe during the Bronze Age, proto-Celts if you will. Then came the Iron Age Celts.
Lol that’s not what Tacitus of Rome thought. He said they were swarthy which dark black according to the original Old English and he believed they crossed over the Iberian Peninsula 😂 they looked like the aborigines of Australia most likely.
Swarthy at that time was NEVER used to describe white/red people. It was used to describe “black peoples/Moors/blackamoors/negros/nigers.
You changed the definition of the word recently to “olive skin” but we have books to prove it meant “black” written by your ancestors.
"lost" the people who introduced sea navigation, would not likely get "lost"...don't let your prejudice blind you. I'm a "swarthy" complexion ...the color of copper with Irish and British genealogy ..last name is Moore(O'Moor, Ó Mórdha).....Catherine Zeta Jones etc dark relative to TODAYS British ...you can't ignore the genocide and expulsion of the Dark skinned (not Catherine Zeta Jones who is likey all kinds of mixed) people of Europe during the 15th-17th century and the laws passed like the changing of surnames... Heraldry goes back to Kenneth MacAlpins line and most of nobility is connected in one way or another with this bloodline ....Moorish Pictish blood.........research 'Niger Val Dubh', Duncan, Constantine Malcolm I read John of Fordum's (Historian)accounts.....Queen Elizabeth I, whos mother Anne Boleyn was very dark ebony and would apply white powder which was popular during the tudor era...three out of six of Henry VIII's were described as very swarthy..Mary of the Scots, daughter of King James V, descended from Ferus Moor....Ancestral father of Kenneth Macalpin Niger Val Dubh and Kenneth the Niger(not the negative) from which evolved the Stewarts. She married dark skinned Dauphin Francis II and became Queen of France...Francis II died, his mother the Negress Catherine de Medici(of African descent) became ruler forcing Mary back to Scotland as Queen (THe sagacious Medicis, of African ancestry ruled france and italy). Soon after Mary's arrival she married her half first cousin the swarthy Henry Stewart (darnley), and became the mother of James Stewart VI, who became England's first Stewart Scottish King...After James dies she was exiled for marying Lord Bothwell(James Hepburn) and the throne was given to her infant son James.Which is why some consider her the true heir and not elizabeth which is why she was arrested adn confined to bBlack Bull Inn for 19 years until her execution in 1587 ......point being....No ....when history says dark complexion and swarthy more times than not they don't mean Catherine Zeta Jones or James Mason unless you're referring to modern day people ...who are mixed but identify as anything but "dark".
Probably the original inhabitants, not immigrants given the skin pigment of Cheddar man and later beaker people. Celts were the immigrants.
Cheddar man is nowhere near as old as paviland “lady”, so why assume cheddar man is an original inhabitant ?
Are these the people that at times stained blue?
They’re sometimes shown like that according to ancient sources they would put woad on their skin to colour it blue and line and other stuff in their hair to make it blue. Just try not to think about stuff they used to mix in, allegedly, 🤢 The picks from Scotland are the most famous for it I think though in later centuries
Silures: Sue jones-davies, ioan gruffudd
Solomon and Gaenor?
Me!
i hear and feel my forefathers running in my DNA
Tacitus described the Silures having "Ethiopian" complexion. Black Celt Lives Matter 💪🏽
Edomites don’t really believe in the Bible and they hate The Truth about our people 😂
@THE VOICE OF THE GOYIM Those aren't your people lmao clown
"Celts" Were an invention. The only true Celts were in modern day Switzerland and had absolutely nothing to do with Britain. The Silures produced the first royalty of Britain and were the only native tribe to defeat Rome's famous 9th legion. All Britons were migrants, came in two migrations between 1200ad and 650bc and it is recorded. The lemnos stone. The Romans never got into Wales by force, only through marriage. Cardiff was created thanks to the peace treaty between the Welsh Britons and the Romans. Caer Dydd. As for subjugation, I call nonsense because most roman emperors after 150ad were either British born or of British (Welsh) Ancestry and came from The Silures tribe. How do we know, we have Roman and Cymro lineage records that match when they ruled and died, with Welsh names given to those in Cymru, why on earth would they exist (in welsh) if they were under foreign occupation. They survived because they (Cymro Britons) ruled Western Rome for a time.
If you say so I must be wrong I hope you open a book one day now stop getting so angry on the internet little boy and go reflect on yourself for a while and think at I am arse hole? You’re getting stuck on definitions and not looking at the bigger picture and letting you prejudice determine your revisionist view of history.
@@NerdWorldHistory Angry? Little? Revisionist also? Wow,...Yeah, all that written evidence from Roman scholars, Welsh Scholars and English Scholars has indeed been revised, and it occurred under the Hanovarians to make the Britons look weak and pathetic, all the while stealing Brythonic titles and changing them to terms like "Prince of Wales". Next you'll be telling me all about how Iolo Morgannwg invented all the linguistic Coelbren evidence found throughout the middle east and the Mediterranean hundreds of years before he was born. I wasn't once personally confrontational so whats with that....?
@@taffyducks544
The Celts originally inhabited the territory of the Danube in central Europe, the proto-Celts were the same group that created the Hallstatt culture, related to the Urnfield culture in Germany.
The Swiss Celts like the Helvetti were not the original Celts, the Hallstatt Celtic(1200 B.C.) group were the original Celts that migrated to Britain from the mainland of Europe.
The word Celt comes from the Greek word _Keltoi_ and was a ethnonym applied to the people living in the Alps(Cisalpine Gaul/Cisalpina Gallia) and Transalpine Gaul beyond Italy, the Romans mention red hair as an unusual characteristics of the Celts, not common in Italy.
Check your info dude.
@@taffyducks544 please stop making us Welsh look dumb
@@Anselm_237 there are no such people as the Celts but there are Celtic tribes such the Brigantes Iceni,etc
The thing is, with the 'celtic' idea of the welsh, there is conveniently very little knowledge of the people. If you read the true, old histories, before the word celt started being used during the 18th and 19th centuries, you get a completely different picture. Instead of tribal chiefs with no names and or no genealogies, you find kings and princes that are named in succession over hundreds of years. Caradoc was the son of Bran, who was the first christian king in the world. Now this was before Rome set foot in Britain. After caradocs great war, and after he and his family were taken to Rome, his son Ceri "longsword" continued the fighting. After him his son baram, who "usurped the empire in Britain ", this is 80ad to 125ad, so this idea of 400yrs of Roman control is nonsense really. What there was, was a trading relationship and many deals were struck. The reason the people of south wales, and western britain generally are darker is because they came from the middle east centuries before and were known as khymry. They had an ancient alphabet that was the forerunner of Greek. This alphabet is preserved in Wales today although not many people realise, it is called coelbren, and is linked to Etruscan, pelasgian and even found in Egypt. This is why today the dna haplogroup of Britain and Egypt is almost identical. Rather than European Celts, it seems that the brits are descended from the ten tribes, these tribes were known to ancient assyria as khymry, recorded on baked clay tablets. The Welsh/British have always claimed descent from this region in their age old traditions. The lloegrian people of what is now England were largely of the same stock as the khymry. They repelled Caesar TWICE and its strange how this is never celebrated. There also is a great Trojan tradition with Brutus being the first great king, and every single king HAD TO be able to claim linear descent from him. And we haven't even got to king Arthur! Crowned at Caerleon in Wales by a welsh saint whos buried in Cardiff....in Wales. It is very odd how academia ignore these facts. Siluria was known to the khymry as essyllwg, e...sull....oog, the romans calling them sull....oo...res. later known as glywyswg in the time of Arthur, and then morganwg after his son Morgan. Later the Normans called it Glamorgan, from gwlad morgan(the land of morgan). Its great to see south wales represented for once lol! So great video!!
Half of what you said is revisionist garbage
@@Texasmade74 thats a strange analogy buddy, how are these facts garbage when its written into our history?
@@Texasmade74 any comment on why its revionist garbage? I have several books from 1661 to the 19th century displaying a very different history to barbarous celts. Be good to see if u can show the british were known as celts before the 18th century, i cannot find any celt references.
@@legolasgreenleaf1961 you having some old texts from before academia was really a thing means absolutely nothing. There is no connection with Wales and Assyria or Wales and the Hebrews
@@legolasgreenleaf1961 Caratacus never became a Christian and Christianity wasn't even a factor in the British isles til the 200s CE although it was recorded as having been there in extremely small numbers in the first century CE
i alway wonder why celtic look like german when they actually came from somewhat Mediterranean and spread out to northen europe
No Celtic tribes ever came from the Mediterranean i.e. Spain,Portugal,Italy,etc but there are definitely Iberian Celtic tribes that lived in the Iberian peninsula and Greece...they were never indigenous to there though 🙄
Even some Roman sources say some of the Celtic tribes had red hair
They are called the Picts
Says who?
So frustrating..WE ARE NOT CELTS THERE ARE NO CELTS IN BRITAIN. THEY COME FROM THE SOUTH OF FRANCE.
Not Celtic - British
Arguably the same same dude, celts do represent a wider group, but many tribes in Britain were related to the Gauls and possibly the Germanic tribes.
@@joshuaperry7199 Agree on the lineage, but they were long established inhabitants of Britain, therefore were British. If not, then the question is at what point in time did they stop being Celtic and actually become British?
@@waynejones1054 agreed mate, its all up for debate really. Personally i agree more with you there. The Celts who resided here were Britons where as the ones in Ireland i believe were Hibernians? France obviously were Gauls etc . . . All different identities yet all related. All the same in the eyes of rome.
@@joshuaperry7199 I believe . from studying John Rhys's work , that the word Britannic' comes from the word 'Pretannic' - an early translation into English via Latin , though it is likely to refer to the Welsh word 'Prydain' which a living Welsh speaker , Gwyn Rhys - kindly explained to me that it means the whole of what is geographically ' The British Isles ' , or the both islands of Britain and Ireland . There was no distinction racially or politically between the two islands before Roman times . You can find outlying groups of the Silures in both Gwynedd and Donegal . There is a theory that the Silures were part of the Venetti of Brittany , and came to West Britain in 2nd Century BC , and the connections between the line of Arthur and Brittany is very strong all through pre-medieval history . An amalgamation between the Picts of South Wales and the Silures is very likely as a combined front against the Beaker settlers , as is the likelihood that the Silures inhabited the West of Britain during the earlier period of Dolmen building until the weather deteriorated . The fact that peoples who went to Egypt , reputedly from Atlantis , also came to Britain , would account for the fact that similar DNA is found , but if you believe as I do that Atlantis was merely the land that was once uncovered by the sea , then there is no need to try explain us away as being a migration from the East . The land beneath the sea is still remembered in Welsh folklore .
@@epilobia1 its all so fascinating isn't it. But i do agree with you that yes there were no national identities like we know today. They were simply Celtic tribes inhabiting both islands. I often fantascise that all the tribes of Britannia and Hibernia would unite whenever a foreign invader i.e. rome would chose to come. Sadly obviously it wasn't meant to be.
So I've decided to erite a book on it instead lol.
You need to do some proper research ..