Is This Mighty Miter Gauge Fence The Best? Review
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- Опубліковано 12 жов 2023
- In-Depth reviews of woodworking products from China. In this episode: The Hongdui Miter Gauge and Fence combination. And three Saw gauges to set up your table saw correctly!
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Here are all the direct links to the products in this video.
Link to all the products In this video: www.banggood.com/custlink/vDG...
Hongdui
combination: www.banggood.com/custlink/KKK...
Miter Gauge: www.banggood.com/custlink/mv3...
Miter Gauge Fence: www.banggood.com/custlink/vKv...
Dial Gauge Test winner!
www.banggood.com/custlink/3Dv...
Sharpening Tool: www.banggood.com/custlink/33v...
Link to episode 18, Miter Gauge: • China tools Ep.18 Does...
Link to episode 43, Sharpening tool: • With this amazing shar...
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My Personal Banggood favorites of all time!
1. Hongdui Edge Trimmer
www.banggood.com/custlink/GGK...
2. Doweling Jig / Multi-row puncher
www.banggood.com/custlink/KDv...
3. Gweike Co2 laser
www.gweikecloud.com/collectio...
4. Mohoo Sharpening system
www.banggood.com/custlink/33v...
5. Drill guide cabinet jig
www.banggood.com/custlink/KDD...
6. T-ruler
www.banggood.com/custlink/3GG...
7. Precision square
www.banggood.com/custlink/DKv...
8. Miter square
www.banggood.com/custlink/GmG...
9. Height gauge
www.banggood.com/custlink/KGG...
10. Hongdui Miter Gauge
www.banggood.com/custlink/vGD...
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My name is Dennis, and I am from Hooked on Wood.
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Products I use in my workshop.
Table saw with dust system:
Felder 740S Slider
Felder 140
Workbench:
Incra master-R-router lift
AEG 1400w router
Incra 25" SL positioner with Wonder Fence
Drill press: Jet JDP 15B
Miter saw: Festool Kapex 60
Different links to products I use
Clamps:
Axminster trade hold down clamps
Piher Rail guide clamps
Micro Jig dovetail clamps
Bessey parallel clamps
Axminster trade parallel clamps
Push blocks
Micro Jig Gripper
Incra Push block
Thank you for viewing.
Best regards,
Dennis - Навчання та стиль
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Pretty impressive tools indeed, Dennis! Thanks a bunch for the reviews! 😃
Stay safe there with your family! 🖖😊
I actually found your channel back at episode 18 because I was looking to purchase the Hongdui miter gauge and wanted to get some reviews on it from UA-cam. You didn’t disappoint and neither did the gauge. Been watching ever since 👍
Dennis, I have found your videos very informative and accurate, and indeed that is why I purchased this fence, but I think that you could improve this video by clearly mentioning that this fence is not for use on the right of a table saw. Other fences I have used could be set up for either side of the blade, and so it came as an unpleasant surprise to me that this one cannot. Banggood's information also fails to mention this limitation. While various comments have now raised the issue, it would still be possible for someone to watch the video and not read the comments, which is why I suggest that you highlight the issue either in the video itself or in your description.
Only recently found your channel and must say I love what you do, the quality and meticulousness of your work and videos is top notch, the level of detail and information is high value and you have inspired me to set up my new workshop in a similar manner. Thank you.
I buy it only if i see it on Dennis's videos!! Great, accurate and clear explanation!!
Just watched all your miter gauge review videos yesterday and boom a new review came out
Let's go 🤩
right on schedule🤪
Thank you Dennis for the review of those tools. Looks like I will be purchasing both the miter gauge tools. Excellent quality and fit. I always like to go with what you have reviewed for tools. I feel that the Netherlands has a step up in quality of woodworking in all areas - the Dutch, you can't beat them! :-)
That is beautiful! I want to be like you if I ever grow up!
I purchased the second dial indicator you reviewed. I was very impressed with it when I received it. I always wanted one and that was a lot cheaper than any other ones I saw. Amazon has since added a few more that are more affordable but i recommend that one to people all the time
Thank you Dennis for the review
Dennis, it seems you are able to read minds, because as soon as I saw this new Hongdui miter gauge fence on their website a few days ago, I immediately thought: it would be great to see a review of it on your channel!
Love your videos! I’ve bought so much stuff you recommend!
I watch and enjoy all your videos. I watched about this mitre gauge, and liked it. I went on banggood and put it in my basket yesterday . When I went to order last night it was out of stock. You have to pay £57 charges to come to England. I went back and saw you can order separate. The gauge is the only part in stock at the moment but when I ordered it there was no taxes. I'm thinking if you order both separate it negates the taxes. When the extension is restocked I will see if that's true. It might save your subscribers £50-60. Keep up the good reviews and you have an excellent workshop Dennis .
No matter how well you think you've aligned your miter slot to your blade, the best way to set the miter gauge fence is to square it to the miter gauge's miter bar. This is not only more accurate, it's far easier. Saw blade bodies may not be perfectly flat, and indexing off the teeth can damage your measuring instruments, not to mention compounding any error in blade to slot alignment into the miter gauge. If you think about using a miter gauge on a bandsaw or router table, you'll understand why squaring against a blade is not the best way.
Dennis really knows how to pick winners.
I have the red dial indicator, and I find it to be fine. Setup may be a little fiddley, but once it's set one shouldn't have to readjust it for the saw in the future.
I also have the Hongdui miter gauge combined with the Enjoywood miter fence. Nice setup. The Hongdui fence looks excellent, but probably not worth upgrading in all practicality.
I have the Wnew miter gauge and fence on my jobsite table saw, which I find to be more than adequate for that application.
I have the gauge without the fence and I love it. I added some 2060 aluminum extrusion to it. This fence’s features look amazing.
Wow, looks beautiful. I’m currently shopping for a fence & miter gauge. I’ll compare this with the combo from TSO
Always happy to open my workshop for you!
I call you my friend Dennis the menace you’re amazing whit this videos is so many people should this tools but they don’t have that accuracy to explain properly how the actually tools designed for thanks to do that I say hello from London and Colombia 🇨🇴 👌👌
Jessem now has a micro adjust for their fence. You can even buy a conversion kit to convert your old stop to their new micro adjust stop.
Yes, but it is not standard and you can not use it in the extended position. Besides that. I do not want to say too many bad things about the other top brands because they arre also great. But i think this fence covers the most.
Wow. They thought through woodworkers use cases. Nice product and nice review. Thanks!
Another great review! Any idea if the fence is compatible with the Wnew miter gauge?
That mitre gauge fence is next level.
Weer een top video Dennis, weet jij of de miter fence ook past op de Drill pro miter gauge?
Nice video, I've been considering updating my mitre gauge
Crazy that Hongdui may be ahead of the premium brands like Woodpeckers, Incra, and JessEm. Kudos to them for not just racing to the bottom. Hopefully they didn’t violate patents to get there.
Yes, “may be”. Need to see someone that isn’t sponsored to say that, saying it.
As far as I can tell, this is pretty much its own design, same as with the Miter Gauge. So, indeed I hope they will continue this way.
Well, I hope I showed enough so you can make up your mind yourself.
@@MKRM27 That’s def fair. I’ve used a lot of miter gauges and fences, and this thing looks as good as it gets and costs less than the others (not by a lot though). In a lineup I don’t think it’s crazy for a woodworking pro to pluck this one from a test of them all. Would like to see that video though.
This is a really informative review thanks.
Would there fence/gauge work on the right hand side of the blade? If you weren't bothered about the scale
Thanks
I don't have table saw yet and only using Festool track saw. I'm still learning and watching woodworking video for table saw. My question is, if you have the miter gauge + fence, will this be equivalent or can be alternative for sled? I see a lot of videos people building sled with different sizes, each has it's own prons and cons. It seems to me they have the same purpose but it might be missing.
Workshop tools is a hobby in itself.
I just finally got both the miter gauge and fence set up. This is 💯 % the best that I've ever seen. It's FABULOUS!
However, I think that I found an issue.
The imperial scale is off by 1/8" when using the extention fence, and there is no way I have found to make it correct. Can you give it a test and see if I'm wrong!? 😮
With the dialless gauge, you can just measure from a fixed spot on the disc of the saw blade. I don't see a need to measure from a saw tooth. As long as you are measuring from the same spot, you should be fine.
Would be great if you could convince Banggood to make these available with miterbars that fit Felder/hammer sliding tables!
Thank you for the great review on that miter gauge fence combination. Happy it arieved today but sadly i found one and really just one point what is not okey with it. It is the little screw on top of the micro adjuster it was broke off by delivery and was loose in the package and the broken thread in it quite hard to get. I don`t got the point why this single srew is made out of plastic in such a high quality product . Do you know is their a reason behind it? should i reclaim a new one by banggood or buy a new and better one somewere else becouse i'm not sure if it is a metric thread? Thank you for your help. Greetings from Austria your Fan Harry
Mine came with a shattered glass view finder on the miter gauge, and no magnets in the flip stop. Dealing with issues like this is a nightmare with Banggood
Hi,
is there any objection to use the miter gauge and fence along with a router ? I use the JessEm Mast-R-top as a router table.
regards
Raymont
this is nice !!! it is certainly pricey, but it is nice.
hi dennis thank for showing other tools. Do you know of any miter gauge where the fit into a 12,5 mm slot (metabo 254 saw) i can not find any and would like to upgrade br max
Cheers.
will this fit my In cra 120 mitre gauge?
Thanks Dennis❤
This the best fence ever nothing nothings compare to the quality the accuracy is just fantastic so far what ever people talk about the Chinese tools this make you change your mind about Chinese tools quality 1000 percent woodpecker don’t even go close to this quality 👌👌👍
It would be interesting if they made a version that would work on a slider but I don’t think the slots in sliders are as standardized as on cabinet saws.
For the money is the enjoywood miter guage and fence better than this combo?
Hallo, auch passend für die Festool csc Sys 50 Akkusäge?
Would this fit into a Bosch GTS 10 XC?
Just bought that other telescope fence from enjoywood to go with the Hongdui mitre gauge. No regrets though! It's great, even if this one is slightly better :)
I enjoy the enjoy wood fence also. I use it for my router table. It does everything it needs to do and is lightweight. But I can also enjoy from these sort of "Over the top" products.
Hello Dennis, is this miter gauge fence compatible with incra miter gauges for example? Dennis thank you for your work of remarkable quality, I discovered your site recently and I have already placed a first order with banggood and a second in preparation, but I hesitate to take this miter guide not knowing if it will be compatible with my MICRA hardware.
I will look into it. Can you sent me a mail to Hookedonwood@hotmail.com That is easier for me to reply and not forget :-)
👍@@HookedonWood
Does this fit dewalt DWE7492 / DWE7491?
Can this fence be used with the Incra Mitre gauge?
I bought this fence as soon as it was out, as I already own the Hongdui miter gauge. It’s worth mentioning that, unlike the one from Incra, the telescopic fence only extends to the left, making it unusable on the right side of the blade. And I hope they would ship the fence with the 2 screws to mount on the gauge, as mine are already lost😢
How is the accuracy\precision?
Also, that is crazy that this fence only extends to the left side of the table saw blade. To me that is a major flaw.
If you take a closer look at how the fence is designed, you will see that the left side of the fence is the only side that has the angle cut, not the right side too, like the Harvey. Harvey has the angles on both sides of the fence, and you can move the fence extension to either side, Also, with the Harvey, if you have a left tilt or right tilt table saw blade, their fence makes more sense.
Have angled cuts on both sides of their fence, as well as the ability to move the fence extension to either side, and they'll have a winner, imo.
Overall, from looking at the pictures and videos, the Hongdui setup is nice, but I think they need to make a version 2.0 with the necessary updates.
@warped_woodwerks you are indeed right about the side. I think 95% use it at the left from the saw blade. So it is a choice. Compared to the Harvey, they have even forgot to add a scale and a whole lot more. So, when you use it at the left. It is the most complete fence available at this moment
@@HookedonWood Thank you for your response.
I will agree, for most of your comment. The major gripe I have is that if you have a left tilt table saw blade, the Hongdui doesn't have a left tilt miter cut in their fence, like the Harvey. I think if their fence had that ability, I would purchase their miter gauge without hesitation.
Regardless, thank you for replying to my comment.
I enjoy your content, so please keep posting the great videos!
This video is great !!! Thanks !. Also like you're new laser UA-cam channel.
I was waiting for this fence reviews for a few weeks already because the information on banggood was very lackluster. I think the price might be justified but it misses some tricks which make really unsuitable for me to buy yet another fence, especially at that price. My biggest gripe is that this (like other fences) is made to stop at or at least very close to the blade, seemingly assuming one might want to cut ridiculously short cuts as well (but then why offer a telescope function?) but short cuts are much safer and easier to execute with a sled. What I would rather like to see is a fence that has a scale which starts at a safe distance away from the blade so I can pull back the fence enough to not collide with safety features of the saw. I was checking whether it was possible to trim the included scale but it doesn't seem to be possible due to features depending to have metal bar with the scale in a defined length (also since it is reversible). Maybe Hongdui will listen and produce a version with a scale starting at 10cm (4" respectively) or offer a replancment scale with this offset so that I can actually use it properly.
You can use the pin. That would give you 3a4 cm extra. But a sled is even closer. So why does that feel safe and this not?. You can place it +_ 3cm from the fence
@@HookedonWood A sled gives you a variety of options to fixate the workpiece, includes the "sacrificial fence" and prevents (typically also small cutoffs) from being accelerated back to the user. That makes it a primary choice for small pieces. Typically, that requires removing the protective hood and replacing it with a riving knife. However for all other usecases you definititely want to use the (mandatory as product feature in some markets!) blade guard hood, which clashes easily with a fence, especially this one since it is quite a a high one...
A fence with flag stops is for me a feature to make repetitive cuts on medium to larger size work pieces where a sled or a miter saw quite literally doesn't cut it (or lacks precision). For small pieces those are much better tools...
The WNEW doweling jig I bought has just arrived, can someone explain why it has 7mm bushing? I thought that common size dowels are 6 and 8mm
The 7 mm is for the connectors pin. You don’t need it for the dowels
Hey Dennis,
I am currently building a MFT style worktable and I am still in the market for a fence. I was looking at the benchdog tool fences, but I am seriously impressed by this fence. Given that the price is comparable with the Benchdogs fence, I am wondering if this would be the better buy? The only downside to this Hongdui fence is that the benchdogs fence does come in longer lengths?
Hey, I’m not sure I understand your comment here. This is a miter fence for use with a miter saw that runs on a table saw. Benchdogs (and I I own a LOT of their products) make truly fantastic fences, but they’re for use only with track/plunge saws. The fence shown in this video will not work on a MFT style bench top.
@@fibbsjc I also own benchdog products and I was looking at the metric fence. I was just wondering if I could use this fence together with some quad dogs, since there is a groove in the back. Why would that not work?
@@wnxdarkraven because the fence built for an MFT top takes into account the width of a track and whatever blade you happen to use since they cut on the right side of the track. IF the fence dogs are able to be mounted to this fence then I suppose in principle there’s nothing stopping you from using this fence to measure your material, but you’d always have to add the width of the track and blade to whatever the fence says your set at and that kinda kills any convenience and adds to much possible points of human error into the mix for my liking.
@@wnxdarkraven btw, if you already own a fence from BDUK then you might not wish to pony up for cash for another, but I bought their metric/imperial fence precisely so that I could do both material measurements. That’s an option as well
@@fibbsjcThat's a good point. I guess I am just blown away by the beauty of this fence and will justify any reason to buy it. :D Thanks for the feedback. My wallet will thank you.
Hi I just recently placed my order with the hongdui miter gauge and fence but I've found out the runner can only expand 20 23 mm wide my t slot is 24 mm wide how can I make this fit my miter slot
I mean expand to 23 mm wide and mine 24 mm wide
nice
I can get an INCRA 1000se for much less. I'll go with the proven INCRA.
Would this fence fit on the wnew mitre gauge?
Any recommendations for 11 11 Banggood
Next wednesday😀
Hi Dennis, there are multiple options of this miter gauge on Banggood. Which one fits for the DeWalt 7942? The sellers answers are not very helpful..
And you as an absolute hongdui specialist can maybe help me? Thanks so much and keep up the great work
guess who is buying a new miter gauge and fence for black friday ?!😇
Can the fence be used with the drillpro miter gauge for example ?
ATTENTION: Dennis - HOOKED ON WOOD
I think Hongdui missed the boat here, just a little.
Unlike the Harvey, for example, there isn't a mitered cut in the fence on the right side, so if someone has a left tilt table saw blade, you will have to move the fence further away from the blade and then there will be a large gap.
Since one can't remove the fence extension, of the Hongdui, I am not sure why they even designed their miter fence to have a mitered\angled cut in it.
Also, you can't remove the fence extension and move it to the right side of the fence, like the Harvey. I wonder why this is?
If Hongdui made a few changes\updates to their fence (ability to move the fence extension to both sides as well as having angled\mites cuts on both sides, like the Harvey), I think they would have an even better miter gauge. Then again, wouldn't one just ultimately buy the Harvey, since they already have all of these options with their miter gauge?
Hi Dennis.
I‘m looking for a length stop for a mitre saw, i.e., for the Festool Kapex KS60. Could it be used for this case as well somehow? Or is anybody aware about better alternatives?
How many other of the mitre gauge / fence combinations that are on the market, have you experience of using?
I think Harvey, Jessem and INCRA are the most welknown brands for this. From these three, It is the most complete fence and from quality perspective on par with Harvey. But all of these other brands do have something to wish for. Especially the Harvey.
You own all of those?
No, i own the Incra 3000 which is better from accuracy point of view because it has a positive stop every half degree. But it is very industrial and the fence is very basic and you need tools when you want to use the micro adjuster or want to extend the fence. The others friends of my have
Is it available with imperial measurements?
Tell me you don’t watch the whole video without telling me you don’t watch the whole video.
Mitre Guage/Fence combo is already out of stock!
I got this back in Nov 2023. Was damaged upon arrival and still waiting for the replacement part. In my opinion, I will never order from Bangood again since the customer service in these types of circumstance is non existent. They have your money and you get damaged goods. Stick to the US or CDN made products where you will get treated much better.
I think I will stick with my Incra fence which was also cheaper than this Chinese one.
Nothing wrong with the INCRA of course. That this Fence cost more money, is obvious. Although I like INCRA, the quality of the fence is very basic, the ruler insert very simple, no sophisticated micro adjuster and you need tools to extend it or use the micro adjuster. So, it is very basic. This is of better quality, thicker aluminum, and everything can be done without tools.
Too bad it doesn't come in inches.....
it does, you can flip the ruler to inches.
@@HookedonWood oh wow that's awesome. I may have to purchase one.