UNLINKED STRETCH is awesome - demonstrating the new DWARF II firmware
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- Опубліковано 29 гру 2022
- Last time I talked about the Dwarf II firmware enhancements, I didn't have time to actually show them - until now!
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Cuiv, your outstanding reviews convinced me to purchase one a week or so ago. I am now anxiously waiting for my DWARF II, X'mas Edition. I am fortunate to live and work in one of the darkest places in the country, a place very much dedicated to space-related developments. This combination will allow me to showcase the unit as soon as I receive it. Stay tuned. Greetings from Spaceport America, New Mexico USA
I really really hope it works well! My main worry is any manufacturing fluctuation in quality, etc... Enjoy!
Ordered one a couple of weeks ago... will be shipped in February 2023...
Thanks for your feedback and the effort you are putting in this!
I hope it will work great for you!
Just ordered one of these and loving your videos! You’re the perfect person to help them get this product to its potential with your feedback and expertise! Good job 👍
Thanks for keeping us up on the latest firmware improvements! Still waiting for mine to arrive. Have a very happy New Year Cuiv!
Happy New Year Mark!
I am pretty much new to DSO astrophotography as I only have a manual 10 inch dob and phone camera to work with. I have ordered the Dwarf II and I'm really excited to see stuff I can't get to very well right now. I have no clue what "unlinked stretch" means, but I'm going to take your word that it's a good thing. Thank you for being a part of the improvement process and showing how it works!
Unlinked stretch is a very good thing :)
Thanks Cuiv for making these videos. It looks very promising 😊 btw, happy new year.
Thanks for the update Cuiv. I will be anticipating your dark skies vid with the Dwarf II, as I just received tickets to the Great Orion Dark Sky Festival in Panamint Valley in March and plan on bringing my Dwarf II.
Awesome! Enjoy the festival!
Thanks Cuiv. Happy New Year !! I'm impressed with the Dwarf 2 and have just placed an order for it. Patience is the virtue I need (and less clouds). Cheers.
Another great video sir. I'm looking very much forward to when you get to go out to some dark skies to really put this machine through the paces. Hopefully you can get some good long amount of data on some nebula to see what it can really do.
Excellent vid as always Cuiv!
If it continues like this I'm getting one next year for sure! Happy New Year Cuiv!
Happy New Year!
Great to see! They are listening to you! Makes us all luckier🎉
Ordered one yesterday. Your vids are the best
Thanks Leonard! I really hope it works out well for you!
Merci pour vos très intéressantes revues de ce produit. Je me suis laissé tenter et j'ai commandé un DWARF II: la date prévue de réception est février. Bonne année 2023! P.S.: j'ai passé l'équivalent de plusieurs années à Tokyo et je suis surpris de la qualité de vos astrophotos, compte tenu du climat.
Bonne année Serge, et j'espère que ce petit télescope vous plaira et fonctionnera bien!
The hot pixel trail is a feature! It's like star trails but with hot pixels!
Also you made a DIY telescope that is similar to Vespera. That was an awesome build, was wondering if you can do a follow up with it?
This is great..when I go into the old peoples home I can see myself using one of these..if not before..it would be great for those nights where you just know if you set up the clouds will attack...although I have just fitted a "gate motor" to my roll off roof which came with two remote control so opening and closing is not as bad as it was...I wont let old age slow me down..ok you have talked me into it I am going to buy one...
I really do like this I can see me buying one later in the new year as it will be great fro outreach.
I really hope that the overall quality will be relatively constant across production, and there won't be equipment lottery - that's my main concern!
Looking forward to some dark sky testing coming up 👍🏼😎
Hi Cuiv happy new year. Love your videos! Have ordered a dwarf lab, I normally only use visual telescopes but sometimes take photos of the moon etc through the lens. I hope they put the feature in where you can keep the final stacked image for visual observation and be able to play with the histogram. Would you mind posting your recommended ballpark settings for photographing the moon and planets? Appreciate this rig won’t be the best for pure planet photography but will still be a big jump from looking through a telescope eyepiece if can set it up right. Thanks!
I don't understand why so many YT channels complain about their autofocusing cameras not getting correct focus when the easy solution is to turn off AF and focus manually. This is especially true in low light situations.
I've been taking pictures since '63 and know you can never trust AF, so turn it off and focus manually for critical use.
BTW, I joined my first astronomy club, the Orange County Astronomers (in SoCal), in 1970. The hobby was a wee bit different then.😄
One of the other members of the club was Alika Herring. You should read up on him. He was a part of some major projects.
Without a Bahtinov Mask I find focusing to be really difficult! I think we've been spoilt by technology and the high res we can achieve.
I wrote the current star autofocus algorithm in NINA, including curve fitting. That removes all guesswork and works better than Bahtinov, at least on the scopes I tested it in. And of course with a full kit you can automatically autofocus if HFR drifts due to thermal expansion or contraction.
That's why I want to see star autofocus in this telescope! And it's dummy proof!
@@CuivTheLazyGeek I meant the camera you used to film yourself. Use manual focus, if it has it.
just pulled the trigger and placed an order. hope it gets here and I don't get messed up and have no product.
Hope it works out well!
I'm going to receive mine in a couple of days, my uncle received it in spain and sent it for me to UK
Awesome!! Hope you enjoy!
This is a really interesting product even for us with experience. I hope you get around to go to a dark site and using darks giving it the best possible conditions. I must say I am impressed with what it can do in Tokyo. Thanks for the video 😊
Yesssss, dark site is my goal!!
I continue to be thrilled with your videos of this product - THANK YOU, Get your car fixed LOL. The only thing that would make me more happy would for me to get delivery of my order. Do you have any idea how production is going? Nothing is posted on there web site.
I have no idea on production...
Great Post as ever! Just wondering how do you prevent the field rotation star trailing approx 9mins into the video?
I already ordered mine. Then I‘ll use a wedge and take out of the city. Awesome little thing!
Hey Cuiv great info thanks.I pre-ordered one as a fun tool to play with but really I think as you say it is quite limited in alot of areas.I have been speaking with Dwarf and they seem very friendly and helpful.I really think though they should have sent you this much earlier as a beta tester and sorted all these issues you have had.It would have been a buggy terrible thing to use before you got involved and even though it's fantastic they take notice of all of these things you mentioned you are almost fixing things on the fly which seems a bit silly.I just hope they will continue to improve things- as you say it's got potential.
Completely agree there - they should have had experienced astrophographers test that early in the process. And not UA-camrs, just normal users, so there is no pressure to report on the scope in the end, positively or negatively.
@@CuivTheLazyGeek I presume it's a budget issue. Plus,feedback from those with a casual interest but limited budget. What we'd need to get started, the commitment, and still have no idea where to look for M42. This is now a non-issue. I love this box. Can't afford it yet (another gig lost to Covid) but I _almost_ pulled the trigger anyway. IF only I had heard _before_ Christmas...
This is a huge step forward in budget goto systems and introductory Astronomy. Built obviously to a price point which is night and day ahead of comparable systems, choices have been made on the optics and filtering. and some huge noise issues. Always difficult to compete with the mark 1 eyeball in terms of contrast and focus. For the cost this is brilliant. I'm all in on getting one of these.
I wonder if they would be able to add polar alignment via plate solving?
Hello Quiv, thank you for thorough testing and fast follow-ups!
A possibly stupid question,-
is it possible to attach a small monocular/telescope to DWARF II, like the ones meant for smartphones (apexel has 28x model for example), what do you think?
If yes - maybe it would be possible to do some planetary AF with the DWARF II?
Question: The Dwarf 2 team took some stacked images of the Ring Nebula, but it was very small. For objects further away, are you able to zoom in before you start the session to get a larger image in the final result?
Hi Cuiv, your dwarf is tempting me more and more!!!! Is it possible to remove the color trails (with darks or something like this).
One question that as nothing related to Astronomy : where are you from? Because you used a typical french "word" : oulala. (Which could expresses excitation or as well that something is going wrong. )
Have a happy end of year.
Could you demonstrate making dark frames and flat frames with the DWARF II (i ordered one for EAA)
Is it possible to use LPR filters (IDAS 1.25") with the dwarf II
Looks like it's being constantly improved. I guess that FITS file saving, raw video etc will be newer additions in firmware soon?
For planetary imaging, the minimum would be an equivalent of 2000mm focal length for 35mm cameras, in my opinion?
I don't know what's on the roadmap for it tbh! I'm just providing feedback to them :)
@@CuivTheLazyGeek I see that they just uploaded a tutorial, it seems that they are quickly improving the software side.
ua-cam.com/video/vAshLBiQjic/v-deo.html
I suspect that they are already thinking about a DWARF III in the next year...
In my dwarf 2 app I cannot access the area I see in your video that shows those slide faders and graph (in the “more area”) after you choose the number to be stacked. How do I find that area for color adjustment? I have version V1.1.6B2. I have tried this app on iPad and iPhone and still can’t find this area in the app. Help please.
I want to know how to fix this field rotation, red , blue and green circular arc pattern? will u talk to DwarfLab about this problem that may be solved it by next firmware update?
Cuiv, for planetary imaging, would it help if the 2x2 binning was turned off and the gain was reduced? I believe that the increase in resolution by getting rid of the binning would be justified, since the planets are so much brighter than the nebula and galaxies that it is currently optimized for. Let me know what you think. Thanks!
How come after you looked at the moon, you put the ir filter on again? Should it be off for astrophotography. Presume ir pass us off, ir cut is on? Is that the case?
If they do something to get the planet function to a decent level either software or a lens that attaches to the filter so u can get acceptable planet views, then this thing is a no brainer.
Cuiz, does each individual frames used in the final stacked image still available in the album ?
Not directly in the album interface in the app, but they're all in the SD card under the same folder
Hey Cuiv, finally got mine a couple days ago. Haven’t had the weather nor time to do much with it. I did get a quick image of the Orion Nebula before weather shut me down. A couple things I found is the battery life is really short. Full battery went to 15% in less than an hr, mind you it was -5c outside. I will be using a external power source from now on. Also there is no histogram anymore… or I can’t find it. But there is brightness, contrast, hue and saturation settings. Im really appreciative for the time you’ve put into the videos you’ve made for this little unit or i would have been very frustrated. Thanks again
Thanks for the feedback! Overall glad it seems to be working! You're right, at -5 I'd expect the battery life to be very short - the thing is effectively a smartphone with motors always running at full speed, so I'm not surprised. I always have a small 10,000mAh external battery
This looks very promising, especially for someone like me who would like an easy-in to astro-photography.
Having looked at the spec on their website, it says the wide angle lense has a 2mp sensor, and the 100mm tele has an 8mp sensor. These seem very small to me. My phone 20 years ago had a 2mp camera and it was rubbish. Am I missing something? Surely even 8mp will produce very low quality images?
Is it a toy, or for some purpose i haven't considered?
Thank you for these reviews and updates. I wish the manufacturer had involved someone like you from the initial design phase!
Hi Cuiv happy new year. Love your videos! Had a simple question : like a lot of other smart telescope, can you connect the DwarfII with your PC emulating Android or with a ChromeBook instead of your smartphone ? Thanks for your feedback and the effort you are putting in this!
Hey! I read in a star photography forum that a chromebook with the android app works 👍
@@erebostd superb! this makes the dwarf2 even better ! Thanks ;-)
Is unlinked stretch automatic on the Seestar? If so, it seems like Dwarf II could do it, too.
How does the app connect to the Dwarf 2? Does it use Bluetooth or WiFi? When I downloaded the app to my phone and tablet to have a look, in both cases it tells me that my device needs to support 5G band WiFi, which they don't. Any thoughts on this. I seem to recall you saying that 5G band WiFi wasn't legal outside in Tokyo when you were setting up Stellarmate.
Hey brother. Have you gone cold on the Dwarf? Others appear to be touting a new update!!
Please help us !
Hey Cuiv, I was wondering if you could somehow use this just piggybacked on a bigger scope to take wide angle pics. Basically it would just have to stay still and take 30secs shots. The guide and mount would do the rest of the work.
Well in standard photo mode it should work, the question would be: why? A cheap DSLR would likely be much better in that case!
I guess to use the IR sensitivity, weight vs DSLR with lenses and also the shutter actuation limits.
Hi Cuiv, thought of a question, do you remember if you got a response to the suggestion of allowing 1:1 binning, I don’t have a good handle on advantages or disadvantages but in general I prefer to shoot native for max detail even if it takes longer to collect the photons….. just curious if you anticipate us getting to do that
Not yet! But with the tracking capabilities of the scope, I'm getting the feeling that 2x2 might be for the best
@@CuivTheLazyGeek yeah,I was waiting for another reviewer to run some test because I was suspecting some type of continuous plate solving to be going on for it to still be working properly once tilted…. I suppose if that’s true then tweaking that algorithm could improve tracking further…. All speculation, I suppose if it is platesolving then it should be attempting to track no matter what position it’s in
I have one on order. Question: How would you eliminate the walking noise in post processing? Would the dark frames allow that to happen?
Walking noise is due to error of alignment. My guess would be to move the location of the picture (manual dithering) slightly so the walking noise is filtered through dark frames. Although I'm not sure how maneuverable this piece of equipment is for that.
My guess is you will always have some walking noise until they implement dithering in the future, however you can minimize with dark frames and attempt to polar align, both should help, just keep expectations low, I feel it will get to a point to where it’s acceptable for eaa …. Ie just enjoying the captures without trying to impress anyone
In my tests, processing manually with manually taken darks, there was no walking noise, so dark calibration seemed to work quite well!
@@CuivTheLazyGeek that’s good to hear , and thanks for the comment on how you took darks, I’ll remember that
What about doing the black frames.
How is the widefield camera at taking night photographs? Worth for meteor livestreaming?
Probably not - it looks fairly unsensitive to me, although I'd need to test more
I'm curious how much storage would be recommended for shoots? I can't begin to imagine what size individual images or collections of them will be. Was the included SD card enough for few hours, or few nights? What'd be your recommendation?
It supports up to 500gig cards… they are relatively cheap so might as well get one
Included SD definitely good for a few nights. Each individual image is around 3MB if I remember correctly. However it saves all the images used for plate solving as well (in separate folders) so that takes some space
I can't get the unliked strtch to show on the app . I have the most up to date firmware but nothing shows
It's automated - there's no setting
What is the dark patch
Dwarflab should just hire you as a consultant
Then he wouldn’t be impartial.
The best way to promote the hobby is by being fully unattached
They did give him a free cam, that’s pretty nice I thought
@@familylopes7230 It's possible to do both :). Work for the company and promote astrophotography without mentioning any Dwarf products
Nah, I prefer to NOT depend on any manufacturer for a living. Wouldn't be able to criticize their products if I find flaws and issues...
@@bulbal100 agree but it’s still nice, lots of companies expect them back when sent out for review, all of these early reviewers got to keep these
The hot pixels are disheartening... any solution to eliminate them?
They get removed very well with darks - either manually in post, or automatically with the Astro Darks feature of the Dwarf!
@@CuivTheLazyGeek thx… my dwarf 2 is about to arrive this week. Really looking forward to having a good time with it. Btw, my son is in Tokyo too.
Need to divest myself of some clutter to generate funds, so sale time soon…
OK, I have one on order - thanks for the inspiration Cuiv.
Thanks for this video Cuiv, you are not lazy and these Dwarf telescope company knows it. But Nah, not worth it, images are not good.
What is dwarf2
what a lemon
Lemonade's good though!