Inside a real genius club: the Santa Fe Institute
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- Опубліковано 21 тра 2024
- This building in New Mexico welcomes some of the world’s most prestigious minds to work together on life’s biggest questions. Step inside the Sante Fe Institute.
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Complexity arises in any system in which multiple agents interact and adapt to one another and their environments. Examples of these complex systems include the nervous system, the Internet, ecosystems, economies, cities, and civilizations.
Complexity science explores all of those systems, and more. And at the Santa Fe Institute in New Mexico, the globe’s smartest minds are researching across disciplines, cultures, and schools of thought to answer the biggest questions in science and philosophy.
Our host Kmele Foster stepped into the Santa Fe Institute - renowned for its collaborative environment of vast disciplines and schools of thought - to speak with some of the most eccentric and genius minds in our world today.
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Can we get a like 10 hour video of these guys debating/talking at the lunch table like this? It was by far my favorite part.
Omg. I would love to just have a podcast from their lunch table. Tell them anything goes and turn on the microphone. Great idea!
Let’s just have a WebCam available anytime to drop in and see what’s being discussed!
It’s called podcast.
I would love to hear and see that too. I could follow conversations between such people for hours, without any need to participate. I feel like there is great potential there for a whole host of enlightening conversations and profound duels of the mind. That said, I did not find this specific lunch table conversation to be particularly interesting, as it was quite superficial and platitude-laden. I suspect they were indulging him for the camera more than them truly wanting to engage deeply with him and as such, I think the commentator was more of an inhibitor than a catalyst in this conversation. This is almost always the case when a stranger first joins a group though, especially on camera, so it's not surprising and doesn't reflect on him in any way. That said, you can just feel the raw, untapped cerebral energy buzzing and crackling across the table between the residents of the institute. I would love to be a fly on the wall there, to hear and see the conversations when these people are fully at ease and let their minds run wild and free. It can be breathtakingly, mesmerizingly interesting hearing and seeing truly gifted people have a conversational deep-dive
They have a podcast. It's called Complexity.
I had wanted to be part of this institute for decades, but a deep personal tragedy radically altered my course, just when it was within reach.
I'm content with accepting that I'm now a 'lost polymath'. Life goes on.
I wish those of you who are able to be present in this amazing place all my best.
Same here. My academic career just didn’t work out, and that’s okay. I still ended up in Santa Fe for unrelated reasons (which is excellent for me - I love the city for reasons other than the Institute), and being away from research gives me more time to focus on my creative writing.
Brings me some sort of peace to know that there’s individuals out there going to battle with the questions of life/the universe everyday. And that there’s a safe space where science and humanities can come together to think/create/grow. I hope we see more of these kinds of spaces available to the general public in the future. There’s likely a huge population of people who are seeking the opportunity and space to explore and create things we don’t necessarily understand. But due to the constraints of individual circumstances, they will never have the opportunity or outlet to exercise their creative capacity. At the core of humanity, creativity seems to be our strongest asset. Once individuals have the freedom to fully realize the depths and wonders of their own mind - I think we will be amazed at the reality we can create together.
We’re all in this together it’s our job to support the channel South universe. Hallelujah. Praise Jesus.
Trippers
After years of isolation and quitting my career shortly after starting and starting my own business to just pay the bills while I would spend my days trying to soak up information and ponder new ways of thinking about things. My family and friends could never get past that money wasn’t a driving force for me. Iv spent so much time figuring out ways to use the comments or post by others to spark an idea but I had to accept that no real conversation could take place and most just wanted to be right. I practiced and got to where I look for ways I’m wrong and since I can never be right about anything it just opens up new perspectives. Im not smart like the people here but knowing there’s other like minded people out there is comforting. When he said how most people don’t want to pursue question’s without a answer and how thats what they do there I felt understood for the first time in years, those kinds things are really the only thing that interest me and when I noticed everyone else got uncomfortable when I’d ask about an unknown and what they thought. I finally just stopped and accepted I would have to get used to interacting only with myself in any real way. Now that I know there are communities out there I will someday find one.
Santa Fe is a capital of rich assholes who retired to begin “artist” while visiting you’ll find some interesting characters with some eventful careers but they’re hardly original , hardly anything but pompous and proud. Apparently they’re geniuses though ha . These people don’t do anything but waste space making large convoluted projects out of boredom and passing it off as creativity . It’s fun though , I’d imagine at least
@@RepentandbelieveinJesusChrist.inherently your message instills segregation. What good is a religious system if it provocates bias towards followers of the same faith? If humanity is to come together, it is with respect and accordance to common rights. It’s not a coincidence that every single society created a religion - we wanted purpose and needed accountability to be better because we are animals - it’s our mindless dissension from nature that has driven us to live unnatural lives and hold unnatural morals. Religion has done nothing than provide solace to those within the same faith and ostracize those of another, it’s laughable how backwards the role it was supposed to play has become through globalization. Now we have legal systems to hold us accountable so religion is not such an important facet. Believe whatever you want though - anything to placate the mind from the hell we’ve made Earth into
I actually liked where they discussed all the poets and writers and scientists that are just at home studying and writing but not part of the greater community. How many geniuses have toiled away in fields to survive as opposed to furthering humanity's advancement? And thoughts of the misallocation of human resources. But also just the appreciation that even though you're not at uni discussing and partaking you're not just a drone. Even the simplest of us is deeper than we'd probably expect.
Good video, Cheers mate
Good comment. Well said.
Ya, mushroom guy has such an empathetic view of the universe
To understand stand 🎉 maybe not so maybe just to remember 😅that we are in a capsule and everything is in motion forever
Yes! And to link his two ideas shows how our depth influences others and newer generations in the conversations we have and therefore the society we build. All those poems and private works of art, if not really shared, still serve as a self reflection - to see oneself, and perhaps, define ourselves in a more expressive sense which will help teach us how to show others who we are and what we think. And this in turn shapes all of us and the place we live in.
Despite all their work to understand the universe, they all still seem bereft of tangible answers to the most complex questions. Which is humbling.
27:18 O.K., so this is most definitely *not* one of the places where we want the narration drowning out the in-scene dialogue, guys.
I wanted to hear that too 😭
Yeah like the fuck😂😂😂
I love seeing intellectuals when they are happy and thinking. It leads us all forward. ❤
The timing of this video couldn't be better. I'm currently reading Notes on Complexity: A Scientific Theory of Connection, Consciousness, and Being by Neil Theise
Thanks for sharing!
Yeah interesting timing. I recently started "a theory of everyone" by michael muthukrishna.
FYI the symbols you see at 15:20 are that of Occult intent. These guys have no other intentions but to fuel their research by any means. They also work with the administraiton in return for donation from various government sectors. These people are crimlans just on another scheme level. WAKE UP PEOPLE
“Any given day we might learn something astonishing “ I love that thanks 🙏
Great video and very good job by the interviewer! This reminds me about what one AI expert said about what they've learned from researching AI - "If you try too hard to sove a particular problem, you will fail". Sometimes you need an input from outside your field, some chaos, some disturbance, to better grasp a problem and solve it.
Wonderful insight. Thank you for sharing and for spending this time with us ❤
It's nice to see this way of learning is being revived. These kinds of monastery were present in ancient Bharat temples, chaityas. Upanishads are the culmination of all worldly and other worldly knowledge known as Vedanta the end of Vedas. Similar themed monasteries like Nalanda, Vikramshila were major repositories of the world
Eugene Victor Thaw , my uncle , provided a lot of support for these brains - God bless you Geoffrey West and others 🙏- great production and insights - love what the SFI does -
It's all so exciting, what a time to be alive! Sounds like SFI is all about interdisciplinary research and people coming together to create a better understanding of what we know, how best we can share, use, and apply that collective knowledge to create a better future for all of humanity.
Which is the same premise of the ARC conference that recently took place, so I'm interested in if those two organizations know of eachother.
They receive funds from the DOE by proxy student loan contractor frauds. They are smart criminals ruining the next generation for funds... They provide services to the wealthy for money. Wake up people. Billions stolen from pell grants for this institution.
Very well done video. Thanks! Inspiring
"To love and to care..." So true. Great video, thanks.
28:13 The process is the fun part is excatly what i was thinking as he said that
Mccarthy had such an astonishing imagination. Doing Blood Meridian audio book at the moment and his ability to tell a complex, thought provoking story, to create immersive atmosphere and build believable, memorable characters is truly staggering. Genuinely like no other!
Mountain - Monastery - Metropolis is memorable. Very meta.
Complex Systems Theory is one of my favorite topics. This video is awesome. It's so cool seeing people with a similar passion. For anyone who is curious, you don't need to be a genius to understand this stuff. There are some decent books out there that cover the ABCs of complex systems theory in an easy to digest way. Thinking in Systems by Donella H. Meadows is pretty good and the audiobook is on Audible is great for listening to while exercising. It's not such a heavy lift you have to sit down and think about hard about it.
The cool thing about complex systems is it opens ones consciousness up to perspectives larger than one self -- how we fit into the world, and how to make clear sense of difficult problems. It imo is a topic I wish politicians were familiar with, because it would aid in finding verifiable solutions to difficult problems, instead of squabbling about proposed solutions.
Thanks for sharing your experience here. Amazing.
Excellent video. Wasn’t sure I was hearing what I was hearing lol. PhDs in maths talking about love. Of course anyone can talk about love. Just these people seem genuinely happy in content and context.
Love is one of the most powerful forces in the universe 😉
What a marvelous video. Thank you!
Thank yall for this upload!!
"Mountain, monastery, and metropolis" - what a beautiful metaphor!
Beautiful video! ❤ I’m thankful to have people who care
Thank you for being here ❤
I'm not sure if I agree that there is a point or a meaning to all of this, but if there is, I'll vote for love and understanding! That was both surprising and beautiful.
The point and meaning of it is decided by the people who created the organisation so that just means you don't understand it really
They are funded by criminal money, criminals they help in exchange for funds.... Lately, that's DOE stolen pell grants
I used to live in Santa Fe, for reasons obvious to all who know me, I was not invited to join this club.
Complexity, love, peace and truth ❤️🔥
Wow @bigthink thank you for this. Amazing video and great upload ❤
“ don’t feel aggrieved or put upon when someone doesn’t agree with you”. This is the true scientific method. Unlike, Paid research which is drinking your own Kool-Aid or worse yet drinking someone else’s Kool-Aid.
I don't agree with you. It appears you have succumbed to the Mandela Effect in erroneously using the 1978 Jonestown, Guyana events and their lethal drink of choice which was, in fact, FlavorAid, not Kool-Aid.
M^3-
“This led to this Tripartite creative workflow, which is, if you want to be really original and challenge convention, you’d better be on your own; it’s a solitary pursuit. That’s the mountain you’re going to the mountain, but at a certain point, you’ve drunk a little bit too much of your own kool-aid, and you need a community that is congenial and understands you to give you honest feedback; that’s the monastery. Your benedictines, your cistercians, your friends; you’re the same order, same values, but you’re still competitive. That’s where you take the idea next, to really cultivate it in community. And then, when you’re pretty certain that it’s robust and correct, you take it to the metropolis, (where everyone is out to kill you), and trade it with the world.”
This precisely aligns with the story of my life, leading up to the present; I happen to be one of those rare polymaths who ran away from home at 15 and circled the globe multiple times, somehow managing to slip between just about every societal crack imaginable (whilst amassing a lifetime worth of ‘top shelf’ Craic, along with multimodal autodidactic meanderings ranging from the most abstract of the arts to the equally abstract of quantum mechanics/m-theory)
So, I’m now at a stage in my life, wherein I’ve sampled the full-spectrum of my own Kool-Aid and despite it being a broad and diverse set of unique flavors, it simply isn’t the Community that my soul is seeking. So, my question is the following: How can we meet and have a conversation?
It goes without saying that I enjoyed this video, however, I’ll extend my deepest gratitude regardless.
Audentes Fortuna Iuvat
I love David Krakauer, such a wonderful mind!
12:21 I was not expecting this. Wonderful.
Same! How gratifying to hear.
thats a great contrubution., i love the ideas of santa fe institute!
I loved this!
Great video! love this longer content
Jeffrey West on the point of life...marvelous!
I need to get here
Amazing
Wonderful program & people
damn!! This place is like a Heaven for me, i really wish if i could study there. Remind me of "Great Library of Alexandria".
amazing words on uncertainty, randomness and unknown.
Not only intelligent people, but with a great sense of humor and purpose in life!
They are funded by donations from the DOE and other wealthy elites... DOE money is stolen pell grant funds due to the policies these individuals and Gruber helped create. They are criminals ruining this country but people are so unaware 🤦♂️
this is such an interesting place to learn from different people, I hope the admission team could offer more scholarships for international students.
What real world products or services have come out of SFI?
Missing the point of an academic institution. This is a place for intellectuals to progress their work without the distractions that come with university appointments (like administration & teaching).
Excellent video. Would love to spend some time there. Feels like it would allow the creative output to flow
Thank you so much for watching and for taking the time to comment ❤
31:00 very well said
Awesomeness!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
This video gives me hope.
What an incredible thing to say ❤Thank you for being here with us.
Beautiful!! Do that again ...
This is my sign to put a whiteboard in the living room ty
interesting video - I think its a pity that women were so underrepresented in the interviews. I am sure that they bring refreshing points of views to the discussions.
Amazing video
Rest in Peace Cormac McCarthy
I think SFI would enjoy my (c-b)/a scale-symmetry work. Exponential functions.
Thank you to Geoffrey West for his scale-symmetry work. Power law.
I wish this was 8 hours long
This was wonderful 🙏
29:34 the sense of purpose he is referring to is decreasing local entropy. Asking the question how do we decrease local entropy on Earth and beyond.
Would be interesting to know the institutes views and thoughts on transhumanism, genetic changes to the human genom and A(G)I G standing for general in this case not generativ.
I know im spamming comments but i got worried nobody else was thinking of such things. Its really exciting for me. Ive been waiting for half my life to find a place like this.
I waited half a lifetime to get out of places like that. But I did make the break. Okay, now I really must go. Hope it's a good video for you.
My boy just learned about relativity and metaphysics lol. I’m glad one is hype about it instead of a degrading perspective
Welcome friend…. Tell the channel to everyone you know please!
@lukedowneslukedownes5900 You literally have a degrading perspective on my comment. I of course understand those areas but haven't seen a place dedicated to just thinking. Come on bro.
@@RepentandbelieveinJesusChrist.Peopke should repent for believing in an immoral book that endorses slavery and encourages punishing people infinitely for finite crimes 😢
I love this! I thought this level of free thinking only existed on college campuses, this is refreshing to see!
Thank you for watching and commenting! We're so glad you're here ❤
thx for the inspire❤
One is all, all is one.
I tend to think of the search for knowledge as an ever unfolding and ever compounding system. Once one door is opened, ten more doors might be discovered. In this way, the more we know the less we realize we know.
I don't know if there is a meaning of life. I don't agree that it's to understand, however. As soon as we nail down something, it all comes unraveled.
I'm sure everyone is ever so interested in what I have to say. . . 😊
“I would not belong to any club that would have me as a member.” - Groucho Marx
Part of Los Alamos Lab? Military Industrial Think Tank?
No. Complexity science is now its own academic discipline, like physics or biology. Many universities have complexity science departments/projects. This is where the field was born as a collaborative effort.
Big Cormac!
I would be willing to be their janitor or handyman or groundskeeper for the privilege of hanging out there for a while! I might even have an idea or two that they probably wouldn't hate talking about! When I was a teenager, I knew some actual geniuses working on what was the hot topic of the day; string theory, and I was a part of some enjoyable conversations with them. I am no genius, but I've always been interested in the "sophomoric" questions!
Wow! This place is so cool! I wish I had found someplace like this when I was a kid, and much smarter than I am now. Every state should have a couple of Santa Fe Institutes.
Why are you replying to your own comment
@@tuckerbugeater ..."string" indicates to me, the OP likely didn't grow up online, and may not be familiar enough with commenting on various platforms to know/notice it can be edited. didn't bother me, but somehow, you pointing it out does a bit. chill?
So on que for the times.
Had to click for the papa McCarthy thumbnail alone.
Im ready and prepared to work with the worlds most incredible people to bring about the second rennaisance and intergalactic civilization.
Complexity Science can become a living study if one can come to India, and watch and understand its functioning society.
Hahaha any society but India more so probably indeed haha
A good company is a fine company. 😊
I will love to sees table debating with top 4 people!!!! Any subject.
28:50 They missed his comment! I wish they would've explored that WHY he said that not just give a definition
It reminds me of a thought I've had. People say the universe doesn't revolve around one person, but from one person's view, it does.
@@josiahamaze I imagine they were uncomfortable by that statement because those same words were used to establish Jesus of Nazareth’s divinity. It would seem by this presentation, SFI avoids religious contemplation.
I didn't really watch the video as I figured it'd be the usual circle jerk from academics afraid to leave their safe space, a space always funded by doing terrible things to the surface of the planet (all university funding always), but I thank you for identifying a very interesting Mooji-style moment. I observe and pass through. Thank-you. @@936Zach
Big think
I really want to go here, but I feel like I need to write ten complexity studies to enter.
❤️☀️🌙 with hope to joining 😊
8:21 🎯 🙏
We all stand on the shoulders of giants.
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With science being the dominant religion of the West, it's appropriate that its high priests join a club called Santa Fe (Holy Faith). --Thor
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I tried to edit my comment to fix it. The internet won't let me.
Personally i think the trees know more then we like to give them credit for.
We can't understand them we don't know wat they can understand.
I have gone through life being very, very intelligent.
In the deep stillness of your soul's embrace,
Unveil the universe within, a sacred space.
For love, the highest form of wisdom's flight,
Transcends all bounds, ignites our inner light.
Consciousness, a canvas vast and wide,
Where life's brushstrokes dance in joyful stride,
Creating a masterpiece, our existence's grace,
A journey within, a timeless, boundless place.
True evolution's song, a melody so fine,
Resides not in changing, but in the divine,
Awakening the infinite, within our hearts' call,
Love's universal language, uniting one and all.
The journey of self-discovery's brave start,
Begins with the courage, to search within our heart,
Ending with the wisdom, to embrace all that is,
A tapestry of existence, where unity and diversity kiss.
Every moment, an opportunity to elevate and shine,
Contributing to the awakening, in this grand design,
The power of intention, a force to behold,
Align with love, and miracles unfold.
In this tapestry of life, each thread so rare,
A unique expression of the divine, we share,
Honor the diversity, cherish the unity,
For in this grand creation, we find our community.
14:00 wow
The rocket is a symbol of everyone playing a key part to create something bigger.
good vid
When I started watching this I didn't know where you were going. I had no idea how this episode will turn out.
I was pleasantly surprised in this video was edited beautifully
Joe Dirt or GTA-5? Which rocket is this one?😂
You should visit a Orthodox monastery in Arizona or New Mexico
My question is what are the name of the songs if anyone knows? Starting from 0:00
Maybe Religions Can Have A "Lets Find Out IF We Can MESH our 'Diciplines'" i.e., to see if we are all headed to the same Golden Gate--just diffent route. :-)
If the universe had nothing to do( had no purpose ), why would it be here? That's one of my questions that gives me purpose; And, whether it's scientifically provable or not, I would not be here if I had nothing to do. . .
Who finds the inner door open with a giant roar
CGJ
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My dreams is visit this place to do research
8:12 *Quality of mind* 17:20
It's not a problem to be solved just an answer to Be found. It's already here. Some things are so simple only a child can clearly see it.
I used to think intellectuals weren't inclusive. In some sense it is true, dealing with morons is tiresome and intellectuals can these days be barraged by the worst of society a healthy skepticism is warranted. But t have never met honest curiosity being anything but rewarded lauded and included in intellectual societies. I find "united ignorance" of the modern world whether it's in doomsday religiosity or collective instrumental science denial the biggest danger to our planet.
If you have a system however complex, if the system works together coherently then we know A-Priori that each of the disparate parts work via a singular relation which allows all its parts to work together!! And the relation I believe is consequence which is what the causal order relies on!! That relation is also the conservation of symmetry which is what logical consequence is, which is the singular principle on which all of mathematics is built on!! Take special relativity, in spite on time being relative we can determine each relative value via equations which would not work could not work without the principle symmetry or logical consequence acting as a thread running through every equation, it is what glues every part together!! We know there is a relation running through and which is applies to all parts A-Priori as we know when we see a coffee mug that there must be a single force or factor keeping all those atoms of the mug together, so it is an A-Priori knowing!!
Wow this world knows only chaos which will eventually settle with uniform at a certain point and time . I am a Nigerian youth i grew up in a society that believes in either the white man or tradition or even both, but my mind tend to wonder why and how it came to be from the beginning, why am i the observer, why do other observers sometimes have other observations...did man exist to know or to be known... I always fill like i have a malfunction in the way i think not until i heard of SFI... i wish to be there and learn from those great minds for my entire life ..
At first the title brought to mind the Mensa genius club. As far as I know, Mensa has absolutely no value. It's just a mutual congratulatory club and ego orgy. The Santa Fe institute seems very different from that.
30:04 I hate this so much, him putting down people who are not ''as intellectual'' only because he doesn't see their depth. And I am so glad the guy gave him a propper answer.