Ultimate Hacking Keyboard (UHK) review (Kaihua PG1511 "Kailh" Red)
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- Опубліковано 21 сер 2024
- Skip to 10:08 for a typing demonstration.
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Yes, today I genuinely review a split, ergonomic keyboard :p . Or at least, I try to! The Ultimate Hacking Keyboard was a daring donation from a company for me to take a look at. Hope you enjoy the video! :)
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I'm Thomas and I do videos and reviews on mechanical keyboards ranging from the most sickening modern RGB gaming keyboards to vintage hardware relics, or sometimes keycaps or keyswitches ranging from Cherry MX to Alps SKCM to IBM buckling springs and anything in between.
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The practice sentence was: "Hello my name is Thomas and I'm typing on a UHK right now. Ermagherd, an ergonomic keyboard that I can actually use by just ignoring all the ergonomic features, excellent!"
The typing demonstration sounded like a bunch of tiny horses with hollow ABS hooves attempting to dance the Nutcracker after a bit too much Holiday punch.
That's precisely what I was going to say.
Wow
Impressive.
WarGamingRefugee
So have you heard that sound before?
Nice English bro 💯
Who else was hoping the typing example would be in split mode?
I'm even more surprised he has a keyboard reviewing channel and doesn't know how to touch type
@@chartedlife you don't need to be able to touch type for fast typing. I don't know it is unique to me or not, but most of my programmers and sysadmins friends including me don't touch type either.
@@UltimateAlgorithm is it possible to not look at the keyboard without touch typing? if not wouldnt it slow the efficiency?
@@fattestallenalive7148 I've always thought that touch typing refers to a very specific form of typing where one keeps their fingers on the home row and makes use of all fingers. I can type without looking, using three fingers on my left hand and two on my right. I wouldn't think of it as touch typing, but I can do it quickly, and without looking.
@@fattestallenalive7148 Touch typing is literally typing just using your "Touch" feeling and you don't look at the keys when you type. Yes, looking at the keyboard will generally slow efficiency since you would have to be actively looking for the specific keys to press whilst simultaneously, trying to look and type words on your screen as fast as possible. Touch typing isn't necessarily going to make you a fast typist but just makes typing more muscle-memory and intuitive in a sense. You don't need to learn how to touch type to be fast but it can definitely make you type faster, assuming you are typing accurately, since you would only need to focus on the words on the screen and not both the keyboard and the screen.
Those led characters are hard to read because someone forgot to add the red lens over them. Seems like a silly oversight for such an expensive keyboard
Imagine paying 350$ and getting thin ABS caps
like first razer blackwidow
@@icrafterchips blackwidow was half the price of that. lol. But yeah, pretty much all early gamer brand mechs were crapola;
Nasty scratchy chatter prone Genuine Cherry MX™ and shitty laser etched painted abs.
i mean custom scene you pay more than that and dont get caps or even switches
the worst thing is that they're not double-shot or dye subbed. laser-etched caps are a nightmare.
I like nice keycaps, but the modular split design is what you're really paying for here, and I'd say that's worth it. If only it weren't row staggered.
I just think it's kinda funny that cherry is scratchier than all of the "clone" manufacturers.
It used to be, but Cherry has gotten better over the last few years and now they’re pretty comparable.
@@DanLink9000 Only with Cherry Blacks and Clears. Reds and Browns are still scratchy as hell, even more scratchy than their silent variant.
@@0name933 yeah.
@@0name933 If that's true, it's pretty ironic that most mainstream gaming keyboards that still cling to Cherry MX have phased Blacks out because Cherry themselves capitalized on the marketing that lighter (and shorter travel) = gaming. I haven't given a flying fuck about Cherry in a long time, so I can't speak from experience on whether MX Reds and Browns have improved from the re-tooling.
I don't even care about the quality of cherry switches when compared to the clone manufactures. The clone manufactures are more innovative and have a better selection of mx-switches than cherry does. When is cherry going to come out with something comparable to Kailh Box or other clone innovations? Cherry is lagging behind on their own switch.
oh my lord
your voice
please read me a bedtime story
jroid3 69 likes, nice
I showed my keyboard to a friend and at the end accidentally said "And following is a typing demonstration of me typing on this keyboard."
Well, did you give him a typing demostration?
u wont belive this, but as i was reading your comment, this quote just played, so it was like i was lip syncing it xd
@@AnzeBlaBla pass the puff
yeah sure that totally happened
I absolutely love that they are offering a trackball, nobody offers those even though most people who use them once prefer them over all other alternatives. The keyboard sounds magnificent too!
It's weird that regular MX switches and not great ABS caps sound so good. Guessing it's the steel plate and good fit of the case?
I know that these indie keyboard companies are largely trying to stand out by offering bigger feature sets, but if you ask me, a company that wants to make a splash in the hobby can probably do so best by offering the range of BOX switches, especially if they could be the first to offer specialty BOX switches like Pinks, Jades, or Navies in an off-the-shelf pre-built keyboard. Those three, along with the three BOX heavy switches, are at least not that much more expensive than the base BOX switches. Some of them probably requires having to deal with NovelKeys as the middleman, but introducing these switches to a mainstream consumerbase could completely change the landscape of switch preferences and marketing. It'd open the floodgates to having other specialty switches put in mainstream keyboards and allowing economies of scale to finally bring down prices on Gateron Inks, BOX Royals, or Creams.
Looks like V2 which is coming out soon are offering box switches, though not navies, but they're switchable, so could swap them fairly easily I guess.
ducky keyboards come with box switches
For those who are curious, I alternate between an ortholinear Ergodox and Planck then back to standard layouts boards such as my Model M or this DasKeyboard. It's actually not hard to alternate, although they require different techniques, slightly. Practically speaking, what orthos do is force you to use the "right" finger for the job - you should be curling your middle finger down to hit C, as per "proper touch typing" - there's no such thing as proper typing when it comes to speed or accuracy, but this does cut down on big wrist movements where you might be tempted to reach over with your right or tilt your left hand to hit that C with another finger. It works best in an ergonomic split board that accommodates your natural shoulder width and arm angle (Ergodox) but can be downright infuriating and awkward with a small single board (Planck) because you have to bring your hands all the way in and curve your wrists OUT just to align with the home row. If you're already touch typing with the keyboard at an ergonomically good distance from your body, or have a split board, then ortholinear makes greats sense, it's perfectly suited for that. However, if you're used to going crazy with the "frantic spider" typing technique, you'll be frustrated at first with ortho-boards, split or otherwise, that are different and optimized for "correct" finger usage. In other words, ortholinear layout makes sense for something like the Dox, but it's questionable in a single-piece board that forces you to bring your hands into your centerline. In my opinion, anyway.
As for which is better, it entirely depends on how you type, how important it is for you to avoid certain wrist and finger movements, even your hand size, and what kind of keyboard you have. As you can tell, I write a lot and the hours of writing can take a huge toll if I'm using a standard layout. And I can directly compare because I'm switching between ergos/orthos and standard, and QWERTY and QGMLWY all day. Most people aren't professional typists and even some coders don't type that much, or they have *young supple bodies* that can weather the abuse, so they don't understand the need for ergonomic layouts or logical layouts like Colemak - and then get unnecessarily snarky to defend their own preferences. One of the reasons I like Thomas' videos is that he doesn't do that. Unless you're a fan of the My First Keyboard or that fuck-awful projection keyboards or something.
But while ergos seem strange at first, they can be learned quickly and do have immediate benefits. It's not like learning to type on a blank Dvorak, it's just using your middle finger more than you probably already do to hit the C key and stuff.
Interesting observations, thanks for taking the time to write them up.
i need to turn my subwoofer down every time i watch your videos
The legends on my ABS laser engraved keycaps have not changed a bit after over 2 years.
The way you know a keyboard works is if you can type “I hate my life”
Hi Thomas,
A wonderful review of something you don't particularly like, I am interested in these ergonomic designed keyboards. I look forward to seeing you do the ergonomical review, I should be able to handle the fruity language, as I tend to use it when my computer plays up.
Seriously, you should consider reading books for Audible or similar companies, your voice is very calming especially when listening on headphones. Truly a rare gift, just saying.
Take care and stay safe, in these troubled times.
Been watching this board in development for years. Almost as long as PFU has been promising a HHKB Pro 3. Thank you.
I don't know _how_ ive missed this channel before. Your voice is like a mix of Darth Vader and Kenny G and I need more of it in my life.
2:22 voice glitches.
I ended up getting the UHK V2, with box white switches. It's a great keyboard - I love it. It does take a few weeks to get used to the split, but once you do, it instantly makes Thomas's typing style make complete sense.
What I think is very funny that even if you don't use ergonomic keyboards, when you type you position your hands in a such a way that would actually lend itself to a split keyboard. Your left arm is positioned to the left and slightly up, forcing your left hand to be rotated slightly inwards.
I understand that you're not used to the split keyboard layout, but I think that you could get used to it fairly easily.
That's an interesting point. I saw another video where Thomas said he found the way he typed protected against RSI, and maybe that's why.
wow, the sound hit me with surprise! I like it a lot!
It is very solidly built, with thick mounting plates. I like mine quite a bit.
"Ergonomic nightmare" can't wait!
I guess it will be Kinesis Advantage or someting like that.
I was wondering why someone would have such a problem with split keyboard until I see how you type. I don't think I know anyone who types like that lol.
The bottom row layout is really what makes this a no go for me. But there are other issues like the too-dim LED cheapo thin lasered ABS caps, and weird/limited tenting. Not worth the money sadly. The case design is really clever and looks high quality; it feels like kind of a waste of good design.
Sounds like if the layout were more standard this could actually be a decent keyboard...
Aha! This is my main board, and I love it to pieces (sorry).
I was developing strong RSI and wanted an ergonomic board, but my work occasionally required me to use a normal keyboard, often have other people use my keyboard, and also travel quite a bit. Hardware-Dvorak and programmability were ideal, but not compulsory.
The UHK fit all my needs perfectly; my hands feel so much better, my co-workers aren't too displeased, and I don't need to use the blasted laptop keyboard on the train.
>pays out his ass for 'muh ergonomics'
>uses Dvorak
Suddenly, it all makes sense.
Seems to me like the Kinesis Advantage 2 (or whatever it's actually called) got the "ergonomic" aspect more correct, even though the layout looks like something out of some Lovecraftian nightmare.
Though I could see my hands being much more comfortable on that than something like this...and I think the KA2 is also less expensive, or at most, around the same price point as this one, though this one does seem to be infinitely more programmable for those that are into that type of thing. :P
The beachwood rests are beautiful! 😍
I really do love this keyboard but the development time to delivery was simply too long. Been waiting on the key clusters for 3 years now. I've since gone with a custom built ortho split board as my daily driver. Still, absolutely no arguments that the build quality of the UHK is phenomenal. Throw a custom keycap set on it and you're nearing Endgame.
Will probably sell my UHK once I get the key clusters, but I'll do so knowing it will probably make someone very happy to use without having to solder like I ended up doing on my board.
What do you think of the sound of Kailh Red? Kailh switches have a longer stem post and that gives them a more clacky sound (which is very evident in Panda housings).
It's okay. If I wanted a good-sounding switch I wouldn't look at anything MX-based, though.
@@Chyrosran22 dayym
Way sweet design. Love the input addons.
Ergonomic nightmare sounds fun :)
1:42 "sometimes exponentially so" what do you think exponentially means? especially in this context?
You're probably just being sarcastic but a lot of people think "exponentially" means "by a lot".
a reasonable abuse of terminology would be using it to mean non-additive / super-linear i.e. $60 for a tenting keyboard, $60 for a split keyboard, $350 for both
Beautiful, unique choice of colours. I'll stick to my cheap/shitty keyboard, though. Cuz it works!
I do like those addons. A key cluster module and a touchpad module combined might actually be a nice combo to use with this, though I'd have to construct some kind of proper tenting stand for these. Maybe 3D printing.
"My favorite of the MX switches, after blue" :)
Yeah, I even scrolled back to listen again.
Probably just meant his preferred MX switches after Blues. ie., not saying much.
@@Boyetto-san IMHO he said many times in the past that he thinks blues are the worst MX switches. They are #2 on his list of worst sounding switches, for example: ua-cam.com/video/0xH-imuniec/v-deo.html
@@noleti to clarify everything; OF THE MX SWITCHES, MX blue are my favourite (which is more correctly interpreted as "least awful"). They mostly just sound terror awful. Reds are second, they're only scratchy and too sensitive.
@@Chyrosran22 Thanks for the clarification. Didn't expect you to dislike blacks or browns more than blues. Did you try retooled newer generations of the blacks, for example?
2:41 In America we mostly have the smaller enter key on mechanical keyboards, membrane keyboards do come in both variants here too.
I was interested to see your view on the Kailh red switches since my keyboard uses them. I think they're really nice and smooth feeling, although admittedly I feel I should have gone for more typing-friendly ones since I don't really do a massive amount of gaming on it.
From the thumbnail I see that split ergo. board and all I gotta say is, I'm pretty sure this is gonna get spicy real fast XD
This little indie company called Logitech did macro buttons pretty nicely and without needing software in their 710 boards.
I honestly love the shape of the MS Natural keyboard, and had a few of them over the years, but the key feel being cheap domes is pure poop, same with the build quality with all of them I've owned either having keys that just stopped working, or feet that where very thin, and broke over time. Shame as if they where built better I would still be using one to this day to be honest, even as a Linux user. Also just to be known I have small collection of Microsoft hardware such as mice, keyboards, joystick, gamepads(from the original PC Sidewinder to XB1 gamepads), etc., and I wish their software was as good as most of their hardware(MS Natural keyboard series not withstanding as again it's poop build quality).
04:00 Rookie mistake: they forgot the black contrast contrast foil
9:19 but I thought you hated Cherry Blue!
I'm just comparing within the MX range :p .
Chyrosran22 ooohh okay 👌
I was going to buy one of these but I just decided to cut out the middleman and light my money on fire directly.
I considered this board when it was running but I decided the ergodox would be better in quality and case keycaps options also building it myself is always better
Oh! So this is for that dumb hacking scene from NCIS, where two persons are hacking while using one keyboard
Huh, so you actually like Cherry Reds somewhat. Can't believe you haven't reviewed a board with them yet.
He couldn't because the Cherry red keyboards he did have were provided by Tom's Hardware, meaning he couldn't review it on this channel
The only letdown for me about this keybaord is the keycaps. If it was ANSI standard I'd happily buy a sans cap version and deck it out with something more premium. I like their mission and the board, but those caps are way too lame for what it's worth.
>Is in the same realm as other split ergo keyboards
>Looks at my hotdox 76
>$110 kit
Yeahhh... Right.
If you haven’t already, have you ever considered building a fully custom keyboard?
Closest is Project I which I reviewed not that long ago :) .
Given that it is intending to optimize ergonomics and apparently also the usage of realstate, being just a 60%, I find the upper angled "wings" or brows + the red displays to be completely off, pretty bad choices in a design like this. Btw too pricey, even at the discounted mentioned price of $275, although I understand designs like this have extra costs compared to "typical" keyboards. A better redirection of the costs could have been better feet height customizability, so that not only negative tilting was an option, but possibly also side-ways angling. That would apply a lot more to a keyboard like this, compared to that display or even the wrist rest. The latter looks pretty nice indeed though, but a wrist rest complicates the angling options. Also, I think if using a wristrest, nothing beats a simple rolled small towel, or in a case like this, possibly two of them. I don't think wristrest(s) should be a mandatory accessory of any keyboard. It would just inflate the cost, and some users will prefer alternatives to whatever the keyboard comes with
This looks very pretty and it sounds good too
A curly wire dosnt seem like very complicated engineering to me?
Tenting saved my hands, full stop. I mean, the benefit is easy to demonstrate - just raise your hands in front of you in typing position. The most relaxed and comfortable angle your hands will naturally fall into is a 45 degree angle with the thumbs up and the pinkies down. You can clearly feel the strain in your muscles just turning them flat, thumb and pinkie in a horisontal line. Similarly, when you put your hands vertical, thumb straight up, you can also feel the forearm muscles straining a little. Ergo - as long as you know how to type properly - the only proper keyboard style is a tenting keyboard, assuming ergonomics and long term hand/carpal tunnel health are a priority. I've been typing for over a decade on a tenting model by now and I have no RSI symptoms at all, whereas with a flat plank I lost sensation in half my hands after an hour or so of use, that was just before getting the tenting ones. So the only reason to not like ergonomic keyboards, tenting keyboards, split keyboards is just if you don't have the typing skill to use them right, to be honest. Which is where knowing to properly touch type comes in handy. Most hobbyists may not want tenting ergonomics, but anyone who types for a living really should.
With regards to this keyboard, I'm not entirely thrilled. It's too small and has too few keys to be a real workhorse. I like some of the ideas, though.
Touch typing properly is where RSI starts in the first place :p .
If you're looking for a similar keyboard with more keys, I'd take a look at the Dygma Raise. Their official tenting solution is currently in development, but the community over at r/DygmaLabs has a number of 3D-printed brackets circulating with the approval and support of the manufacturer.
does kailh even make standard switches or have they completely switched over to box switches
Thanks so much for the outstanding review, Thomas! We'll offer PBT keycaps eventually and lots of other goodies. Anyone interested, please subscribe to our monthly newsletter at the bottom of our site. The palm rest actually costs $75, not $95. You probably choose an EU country in our webshop, hence $20 VAT was added.
it's cool that you can buy a trackball module, but why is the ball so tiny? I want it phat, like my logi mx ergo.
I also hate ergonomic keyboards. I think their advantage is mostly purely theoretical. Maybe there are some scientific studies showing that they have some advantages, but even then I wouldn't entirely trust them.
Sleeping pill voice, fell asleep twice while typing this.
I hope you acquired a Kinesis Advantage2 for your end of the year video. And not for the swearing btw.
Haha, no, I've got something FAR weirder than that :p .
Sometimes, non-SA keycaps, just look boring, plain, or ugly because SA keycaps are a god damn goated thing.
yes.
I thought the keyboard layout said "OwO"
It can say that, and now I'm going to do this to mine :).
Yeah thats what I thought it said at first lol
I think that key sound would get old quickly. Sounds like some gamer keyboards. Great review though, and an interesting product for anyone who is into that particular niche.
Ok, tell me people, what's the deal with shorter left Shift and dat extra "\" button?
Download the Redux STL and 3D print something just like this. Teensy 2.0++, switches, caps, diodes and wire. $50 dollar version of this keyboard.
"The _rests_ weigh almost as much as the _rest_ of the keyboard". Hmm
buys a split keyboard... doesn't demo it on split mode...
In the typing demo, I think I can see why egonomic keyboards are wasted on you. Ergonomic keyboards seem to be designed on the principle that they should be twisted to match the way your hands naturally rest; however, you seem to have an unusual typing style where your fingers hover over the keyboard in a naturally curved position.
I like the idea of ergonomic keyboards, and I'd like to experiment with them, but sometimes I wonder if we'd just be better off sticking with flat keyboards, and changing the way we type instead .... (Well, we in general; you may already type in a more ergonomic way! ;-)
Listen I despise rgb as much as the next guy but for 350 it should definitely be an option... ABS and no box switches either what a scam
I only like RGB if it's full customization.
Didn't you already do a uhk review?
I think that was an "unboxing"
That was just his unboxing video.
I would honestly die using that keyboard. I'm left handed prodominately so I never hit space with my right hand. FFS!
They meant it when they called it fully programmable. You can remap all keys as you like.
@@0LoneTech word, that would be an easy fix then
I thought the palm rests were woodgrain printed pleather lmao
Would have been better if they were. Pretty sure wood is not the most comfortable thing to rest your wrists on all day.
is this a reupload? i feel i saw this before
No, you've seen an unboxing of this keyboard before.
@@Chyrosran22 ohh right, ty for clarification
While I DO use ergo keyboards, one look glance at this board would rule out entirely - I can make do without the numpad, but no "convenience keys" or T-nav? No thanks.
by using the mod key you don't have to move your hands/wrists from the home row, that's the point
Do a review of corsair k70 and k95 pls
Already did the K70, twice xD .
200+$ for a keyboard that doesn't have Arrow keys?
That keyboard has a 60 percent layout is normal on gaming keyboards
@@mclsauce6300 even for gaming arrow keys are essential especially for emulations and racing games
wow... i wasted 16 hours of my time writing a osx app to do the mod key for ijkl => (arrow keys) ... could have just bought a keyboard like this.
I did the same with AutoHotkey. My programming just got much faster after not having to leave the home row to correct an error or skip a parenthesis! It was on Windows tho.
@@lucasmachado6202 please, can you share the file?
10:00
you ruined your coil
Can't you talk in a bit of high pitch so I can actually concentrate on the review and not get sleepy by the deep voice?
Can't you concentrate, so you can concentrate?
@@TheHadMatters can't you shut up, so you can shut up?
Can't you just look for another video? .-.
Okay wow i hate that typing noise.
I spent an embarrassingly high amount of money for my Cherry MX Blue Corsair keyboard. Over $200 USD.
I've had it for at least half a decade, and aside from two of the LEDs becoming loose and needing to be reattached, it's no different than it was when I bought it. It's a metal frame, too. I'd caution people against a metal frame Cherry MX Blue keyboard however. It's massively addicting, and I basically don't ever want to use anything else. It's as if someone designed the perfect keyboard for my preference, and Jesus fuck is it pricey! (⊙﹏⊙✿)
Have you ever tried non clickjacket clickies?
@@magusperde365 I haven't. I didn't know that was a thing. What's the appeal?
@@TheRealFaceyNeck Its because the MK community has gaslit themselves for years into thinking only the cherry kind of switch existed or was "mechanical". This specific youtuber has been very vocal about how meh he thinks cherry switches are and how he wishes more of the old tech came back. Theres nothing wrong with Cherry mx blue except the high pitch rattle they call a click but it just sucks that theres not that many other options nowaday. We do have all the Kailh boxes with clickbar which are suprisingly great. And all the buckling spring keyboards, wither model m or model f, the new ones or the old 80's stuff on ebay. If you already paid a lot for your keyboard and you are satisfied its perfectly fine. But theres so much great stuff out there. Might even be a bad idea if you try a model f and love it so much you end up spending 400$ US like I did lol.
@@magusperde365 Thanks for the info!
The reason why I said it was an embarrassingly large amount of money for my keyboard is because I know there are better options out there for the money.
A backlit Model M-style of some kind will likely be my next purchase.
For thst price tag you can get a Hall-effect keyboard. This begs the question: what's the mothereffing point?
Dem ergonomics.
Although it's best to spend that extra "ergo" money on a nice mouse that is tilted (trackball optional) if you decide to go with a hall effect keyboard.
@@SimGunther I got a RollerMouse RED (that name is extremely inaccurate btw) which is a super ergonomic """mouse""" but it is very expensive, yet it is STILL cheaper than this keyboard! But anyway, real talk, look up photos on the RollerMouse RED, its trippy looking (again, "mouse" is a lie)!
@@SimGunther you'd have to have a lot more money than common sense to waste your money on 'muh ergonomics'.
It's a different story for mice, obviously, as they can really harm your wrists if they don't suit your hands. But with keyboards? Come on. Ergonomic keyboards have been memed time and again and it has remained as much of a hoax as Dvorak.
you and i both cant stand ergo keyboards i need my battleship model f
You and me both, brother xD .
Tommy Innit keyboard
How many Keyboards do you actually own !? Haha
Those Microsoft Ergo keyboards are trash, horrible keyboards with horrible ergonomics, the spacebar is huge and unwieldy. The ultimate hacking keyboard looks interesting, I'Ve been eyeing an Ergodox but the lack of a function key row is something that is keeping me from pulling the trigger. I am well aware that keyboards like this have layers but I don't want an extra keypress for function keys.
hotswap please 🌚
Are you the google translate voice?
is this linus tech tips? can i single handedly destroy the mainframe? can i hack Microsoft. Give me keyboard
yes, you can, thank you for asking
vccum
i have ended the United States governent
Abs bad
Nice.....
whomst'd'ven't
I'm gonna say it... The "6" key should be on the right side!
What I got from all this: don’t buy into bullshit overpriced gimmicky computer peripherals ESPECIALLY if they have anything associated with “hacking” hacker” or “hax0r” 🤣
I thought tbe keyboard was broken, but nope, it was supposed to look like that. IT LOOKS LIKE SHIT!!!
happy hacking keyboard ?
no?
he already reviewed that
Good review of an absolutely GARBAGE keyboard. Money hungry greed driven sociopaths. $300? For what? It isn't in any way actually "ergonomic", and wtf does it do to make it the ultimate for "hacking"? $100 for a WRIST REST? Do they think they are Apple? Let's sell a $300 keyboard, make them screw in their own feet, NOT give them enough feet, charge them $100 for the (nice soft comfortable SOLID WOOD) wrist rest, and if they want the only interesting thing about it (the modules) then let's bring the total up to $475 ($525 if you'd like a module on both sides). Yes, you won't be able to read the abs keys surfaces after a year, because we intentionally chose to manufacture them in the cheapest and worst way possible, but we can sell them upgrades and replacements!
"QWR" Looks like OWO to me chief
Damn thing is useless! Useless I say! They put the top row 6 key on the wrong side like just about every damn "ergo" shite design. Why yes, I do type like a spastic spider, that's how I was taught on an Olivetti manual typewriter.