Wife - Honey, what's that strange smell in the house? LPL - Huh, I don't smell anything. Wife - watch the new video of LPL on youtube LPL - moves his pillow on couch
“Master, master You promised only lies Laughter, laughter All I hear or see is laughter Laughter, laughter Laughing at my cries Fix me” -The song that plays in my head while I rake open a Masterlock in 8 seconds with a paperclip. (Master of puppets, Metallica)
Radio Shack used to sell a "Pocket-Size Twin-Gas Brazing Torch" part number 64-2165 that used butane and micronox cylinders. They claimed a pinpoint flame of up to 5000 degrees F from this tiny device.
Very nice ... liked the “wife not home” comment 👍🏻 Wonder if that is covered by the warranty ? Morale of the story: If you’re a zinc body lock, stay out of LPL’s kitchen 🤪
I hope you had the doors open, I saw a good bit of white flare around the lock and it looked like burning zinc. The fumes off that will make you real sick, so be careful 👍
"Why can I smell burned rubber and shame?" "sorry honey I melted a rubberised lock and just ashamed I couldn't get rid of the smell fast enough for you.... honest!"
It looked like the plastic resisted the heat longer than zinc. They might as well make the whole lock plastic. At least then the buyer would have a better idea of how secure these locks are (not). Great video LPL.
Since the zinc fork is in the middle of the lock and only covered by rubber.. why not drive a screw or nail through the rubber and force that fork downward?
Hey LPL I’m surprised you haven’t had the new Masterlock magnum with the outside cover that looks like faux lamination(that’s how ya know it’s a Master!). It has an 1/8” weep hole on the bottom that is a perfect pilot for a drill bit. The best part is it lines you up perfectly with the top of bible. The hardest part is getting all the pins to dump out. The cool part is the lock still works but with any Masterlock key. I did it to the one that is the same size as the No. 3. I don’t know if you can do it to the larger ones. Anyhoo keep fighting the good fight.
"Fortunately my wife is out of town right now". LOL I wish I had a dollar for every time I've thought that. Or "I wish my wife was out of town right now"...
Amazing that any lock company would use zinc in their products, and people unknowingly buy these POS's. The melting point of zinc is only about 160F more than lead..Thanks for educating us keep them coming sir!
Zinc parts need not pose a security risk if melting the zinc parts would leave the steel parts in a secure configuration. On the other hand, this lock can be decoded easily enough that the 1'40 time to open with a torch really doesn't represent any meaningful increase in vulnerability. Aluminium would see a bigger issue, since one could silently attack a hidden part of the lock and then return sometime later to pry it open.
Maybe I should have clarified by stating "zinc cased" locks... But still, I wouldn't trust big zinc parts in any lock after watching Mr. LPL's attack videos.
Given the failure mode of the lock (those rollers simply falling out of the front), I suspect you could drill out the cast zinc in 2 places and tip the rollers out the front, even faster than melting them out.
Having just watched the video 631 where LPL decodes shows how to decode master’s 875 I decided had to give it a shot myself. Foolishly I eminently grabbed my master 875, changed the combination without looking took a picture, turned off my phone and began to decode. I was unable to open the lock, the code I had taken a picture of didn't work. Left with no choice I copied the lockpicking lawyers idea of drilling the pins out on the side. Halfway through I discovered that it was far easier to drill and hacksaw through the zinc case. This took half as long as drilling through the steel pins. Eventually I made a repair with a steel rod and excessive amounts of JB weld and Duct tape.
Ay Gollies! Talk about flicking the old bic. I remember a formula for rocket fuel using zinc powder and sulfur. Wonder what would happen with a zinc bodied lock stuck into a pile of sulfur and fired up. A good flame if nothing else. I can see why you don't get into zinc locks.
Could you take a look at the Master lock key safe and show its potential flaws please? Things like can it be decoded in the same way as the Master combination padlocks etc?
I wonder if it would burn out faster with a little sulfur... Zink and sulfur does make a redox-reaction together. (might test that some time in my garage)
Now you know the real weakness is the lock body in front of the retaining pins, you could probably burn through a bit faster, by concentrating the heat at the two points in front of the pins.
Zinc is reasonably susceptible to (dilute) acid; have you tried to open locks by dissolving the body? (same principle as your gallium video, I guess...)
Could heat attacks like this be conducted with a car battery and a set of jumper cables? I know a plumbing torch isn't very loud, but that would be silent...
Yes, maybe even faster as you would be heating the zinc instead of the cavity at the center of the lock. The metal does absorb and transfer heat well, but no so the cavity.
Zinc body padlocks? What about other kind of locks? What about all the motorcycle locks that are made out of zinc? Is there a mechanism that prevents them from being opened if melted, why the stipulation?
Does the other side have the same clam-shell? Or is that all just one chunk of zinc? If it is, you could probably cut the time in half just going for those two pins. Just for fun, it seems as though zinc is vulnerable to chemical attack by lead amalgamation in the same way that aluminum is vulnerable to mercury amalgamation. It might be possible to use something like lead dust (used to be used as a lubricant) to contaminate a lot, wait a (potentially long) while and give it a light tap with something hard. It looks like a lot of factors control the speed of zinc pest corruption, but the main one is amount of lead usually in the alloy. Since zinc pest can spread to pure zinc parts from lead-contaminated ones, I imagine lead can also directly contaminate zinc.
D:< You've already done a more effective version of this in video 593. And I thought I was contributing something not entirely useless. I'll say something smart one of these days. I even had a comeback already in the chamber: "show me an aluminum body lock and I'll show you how to destroy it." I dont even get to use that comeback except in pointing out how I didn't get to use it, which is not the use I intended. I get the last laugh, though. YT's notifications only show me the original comment, not the edited one, so I get to internally gloat over your extremely minor grammatical mistake.
You would need an oxygen supply. These plumbing torches don’t deliver the BTUs fast enough. That said, the brass version of this lock (975) still has a zinc mechanism inside, so even if the outside doesn’t melt, the inside will.
But you can still shoot it with a rifle right? I have a belt buckle that's a master lock that was shot with a rifle that was a gift from when I managed a locksmith shop in the early 90s. I must admit I don't think it would have occurred to me to try to melt a lock so kudos.
I watched a video of them shooting locks and they had to shoot several before they got one that stayed locked. If memory serves about 3 or 4 out of ten stayed locked, the rest failed. I see it as an advertising gimmick like proving how sharp a blade is by splitting a bullet that's fired at it. A butter knife will do that so as I said, gimmick.
Damn the rubber seem to last longer to melt than the thin metal shell. Master lock would be better off making their shitty locks out of rubber instead. Thanks for the video.
Bill Randolph that could work, a silicone overmould would increase the time to failure considerably. Or they could make them out of proper steel, not shitty monkey metal, just sayin’,
zink is such a crappy material for a lock. it's quite brittle too, wonder how long it would take you just hitting the thing with a hammer. or an axe! :D
TheGreyGap I don't memorise the URLs and I thought you were probably interested enough and smart enough to use the search box yourself without me holding your hand or doing it for you. Sorry - that was very bad of me ;-)
Not a fan of zinc body padlocks - OR - Master Lock... Like it matters... Either way, pure junk. It's all deceptive marketing... Maybe we should melt a Smart Key cylinder. 😁
LockPickingLawyer thought your name was Stephen because I watched a video of bills where you sent him a reese brand trailer hitch lock but it was before you started UA-cam then a bit after he did masterlocks version and said remember the reese version that lpl sent me. Sorry buddy you must think Ime a real weirdo by now 😂😂😂
I counted only 58 seconds from the time the flame touched the lock and I was counting a bit fast but sub 2 minutes is pitiful for something I can get from the local DIY shop (the torch I mean)
![[631] Master Lock 875/975 Decoded WITHOUT ANY TOOLS !](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/bfDPtt-bnAI/mqdefault.jpg)
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![[86] HUGE Master 29 Padlock Picked and Gutted](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/SrBjaMI_LLU/mqdefault.jpg)
![[39] Master 220D Practical Melt Attack](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/MW53aqy_3uU/mqdefault.jpg)
I like how the zinc melted before the paint burned.
Should make the whole body out of paint, lol.
Motions for dismissal, 'Your Honor, it was a Master Lock. My client could not have known that entry wasnt permitted.'
LMAO. Your comment made my day. And a pretty good mitigating argument, too.
But we are not watching legal eagle
Wife - Honey, what's that strange smell in the house? LPL - Huh, I don't smell anything.
That’s stage one... stage two is the Shaggy defense. 😁
Wife - Honey, what's that strange smell in the house? LPL - Aurora borealis.
Wife - Honey, what's that strange smell in the house?
LPL - Huh, I don't smell anything.
Wife - watch the new video of LPL on youtube
LPL - moves his pillow on couch
“Master, master
You promised only lies
Laughter, laughter
All I hear or see is laughter
Laughter, laughter
Laughing at my cries
Fix me”
-The song that plays in my head while I rake open a Masterlock in 8 seconds with a paperclip. (Master of puppets, Metallica)
😂
While the wife's away, the locks will melt
Lino Aque I could certainly think of other things to heat up while my wife is out of town!
👍
I do enjoy watching the heat attacks..
👍
Radio Shack used to sell a "Pocket-Size Twin-Gas Brazing Torch" part number 64-2165 that used butane and micronox cylinders. They claimed a pinpoint flame of up to 5000 degrees F from this tiny device.
They should change their name to novice lock
Be fair; they do apprentice level work from time to time.
And now Puddle Lock
Very nice ... liked the “wife not home” comment 👍🏻
Wonder if that is covered by the warranty ?
Morale of the story: If you’re a zinc body lock, stay out of LPL’s kitchen 🤪
😁👍
I hope you had the doors open, I saw a good bit of white flare around the lock and it looked like burning zinc. The fumes off that will make you real sick, so be careful 👍
Definitely.
LockPickingLawyer good lad. Stay legal.. stay safe ;)
"Why can I smell burned rubber and shame?" "sorry honey I melted a rubberised lock and just ashamed I couldn't get rid of the smell fast enough for you.... honest!"
It looked like the plastic resisted the heat longer than zinc. They might as well make the whole lock plastic. At least then the buyer would have a better idea of how secure these locks are (not).
Great video LPL.
Lol. True. 😂
Since the zinc fork is in the middle of the lock and only covered by rubber.. why not drive a screw or nail through the rubber and force that fork downward?
1- It’s not just covered with rubber. 2- the fork has nowhere to go (unless the correct combination is dialed).
Very, very interesting. Thanks! I guess Masterlock just doesn't care that so many of its models are so vulnerable.
Holly smokes not long, Another 3 mins & you could have done it with a standard lighter.
Hey LPL I’m surprised you haven’t had the new Masterlock magnum with the outside cover that looks like faux lamination(that’s how ya know it’s a Master!). It has an 1/8” weep hole on the bottom that is a perfect pilot for a drill bit. The best part is it lines you up perfectly with the top of bible. The hardest part is getting all the pins to dump out. The cool part is the lock still works but with any Masterlock key. I did it to the one that is the same size as the No. 3. I don’t know if you can do it to the larger ones. Anyhoo keep fighting the good fight.
Maybe they should make it out of cheese for extra security.
The reliable source of new year's tins.
So fun to watch. Thanks for sharing this LPL. It’s always a pleasure.....
OK, now that's the second time you've made me feel sorry for a master lock.
Lol these videos are addictive. Cheers LPL.
Thanks... don’t fight it. These are natural urges. 😳
Most guys when their wife is outta town "let's go to the strip clip and casino with the boys!"
LPL "oh boy time to burn some padlocks!"
"Fortunately my wife is out of town right now".
LOL I wish I had a dollar for every time I've thought that.
Or "I wish my wife was out of town right now"...
"(usually) non-destructive manner" -- So often it is Master Lock that you subject to these insults! :-)
Amazing that any lock company would use zinc in their products, and people unknowingly buy these POS's. The melting point of zinc is only about 160F more than lead..Thanks for educating us keep them coming sir!
Zinc parts need not pose a security risk if melting the zinc parts would leave the steel parts in a secure configuration. On the other hand, this lock can be decoded easily enough that the 1'40 time to open with a torch really doesn't represent any meaningful increase in vulnerability. Aluminium would see a bigger issue, since one could silently attack a hidden part of the lock and then return sometime later to pry it open.
Maybe I should have clarified by stating "zinc cased" locks... But still, I wouldn't trust big zinc parts in any lock after watching Mr. LPL's attack videos.
Zinc is cheap and super easy to form into complex shapes... and most people don’t know better. We’ll see lots more of it.
They need to make those locks out of Krell metal as in the movie "Forbidden Planet".
Unobtanium for the win.
Another day, another MasterLock, another complete security fail.
Given the failure mode of the lock (those rollers simply falling out of the front), I suspect you could drill out the cast zinc in 2 places and tip the rollers out the front, even faster than melting them out.
If you’re drilling, you should just drill for the top of the fork.
Some people party when wife is outta town, others melt locks in garage, haha :)
Hell, the plastic seemed to hold up better than the zinc case! :)
Lol. True.
Having just watched the video 631 where LPL decodes shows how to decode master’s 875 I decided had to give it a shot myself. Foolishly I eminently grabbed my master 875, changed the combination without looking took a picture, turned off my phone and began to decode. I was unable to open the lock, the code I had taken a picture of didn't work. Left with no choice I copied the lockpicking lawyers idea of drilling the pins out on the side. Halfway through I discovered that it was far easier to drill and hacksaw through the zinc case. This took half as long as drilling through the steel pins. Eventually I made a repair with a steel rod and excessive amounts of JB weld and Duct tape.
To the garage! The wife is out of town! Lol!
Do a household chemical attack series. Got to be a chemical zinc is easily reactive to.
HCl. Muriatic acid at any home store.
LockPickingLawyer that works nicely on zinc.
We’ve seen gallium on an aluminium padlock, not really a household chemical but spectacular anyway.
Here's hoping your next episode doesn't come from the lock picking doghouse!
Ay Gollies! Talk about flicking the old bic. I remember a formula for rocket fuel using zinc powder and sulfur. Wonder what would happen with a zinc bodied lock stuck into a pile of sulfur and fired up. A good flame if nothing else. I can see why you don't get into zinc locks.
Hmm... I’ve got some sulphur around here somewhere.
Could you take a look at the Master lock key safe and show its potential flaws please? Things like can it be decoded in the same way as the Master combination padlocks etc?
I wonder if it would burn out faster with a little sulfur... Zink and sulfur does make a redox-reaction together. (might test that some time in my garage)
Can you do a tour of your lock collection?
A note to the LPL. This video currently appears twice in a row in your LPL Destructive Entry playlist.
Now you know the real weakness is the lock body in front of the retaining pins, you could probably burn through a bit faster, by concentrating the heat at the two points in front of the pins.
Agreed... and I’d also use a rod to clear the material.
Zinc is reasonably susceptible to (dilute) acid; have you tried to open locks by dissolving the body? (same principle as your gallium video, I guess...)
You should be careful of melting zinc; the fumes can be extremely dangerous.
Yup, I was. Garage door open, mask on.
Keep 'em coming LPL
Can the reverse sidebar mechanism be used on such code locks and would it help them naking them not so easily decodable with tension on the arc?
Sure... the spring loaded forks that you see on several combination locks operate just like a reverse sidebar.
Could you possibly do a destructive test on the Abus 83/55?
Nice looking frame. Looks like it was in a nuclear explosion
Could heat attacks like this be conducted with a car battery and a set of jumper cables? I know a plumbing torch isn't very loud, but that would be silent...
Something like video 545?
Ah, I haven't binge watched back that far. I'll check it out!
If the sides near the locking rollers were heated, would the lock not melt and let the rollers pop out?
Not this fast.
Yes, maybe even faster as you would be heating the zinc instead of the cavity at the center of the lock. The metal does absorb and transfer heat well, but no so the cavity.
Found one of these on the side of the road and said ohhhh free metal, thought the outer layer was brass but don't mine getting zinc
Built a thermic Lance and see what it can do. I reckon this lock would be in bits in less than a minute.
Eheeheh,deeeeeztroyed,that lock stood bo chance :)
And did it stink up the garage? Nice video.
LockPickingLawyer what do you think to place the small Master Lock on a Container.
Zinc body padlocks? What about other kind of locks? What about all the motorcycle locks that are made out of zinc? Is there a mechanism that prevents them from being opened if melted, why the stipulation?
Maybe he doesn't ride.
Does the other side have the same clam-shell? Or is that all just one chunk of zinc? If it is, you could probably cut the time in half just going for those two pins.
Just for fun, it seems as though zinc is vulnerable to chemical attack by lead amalgamation in the same way that aluminum is vulnerable to mercury amalgamation. It might be possible to use something like lead dust (used to be used as a lubricant) to contaminate a lot, wait a (potentially long) while and give it a light tap with something hard.
It looks like a lot of factors control the speed of zinc pest corruption, but the main one is amount of lead usually in the alloy. Since zinc pest can spread to pure zinc parts from lead-contaminated ones, I imagine lead can also directly contaminate zinc.
Yes, see video 631 to see both sides. As for lead... it might be faster to let the wind erode it. 😋
D:< You've already done a more effective version of this in video 593. And I thought I was contributing something not entirely useless. I'll say something smart one of these days.
I even had a comeback already in the chamber: "show me an aluminum body lock and I'll show you how to destroy it." I dont even get to use that comeback except in pointing out how I didn't get to use it, which is not the use I intended.
I get the last laugh, though. YT's notifications only show me the original comment, not the edited one, so I get to internally gloat over your extremely minor grammatical mistake.
LOL yes I laughed. Let us know if your wife could tell when she gets home lol.
None the wiser. 😁
How long would it take to attack a brass Padlock that way? Would it work?
You would need an oxygen supply. These plumbing torches don’t deliver the BTUs fast enough. That said, the brass version of this lock (975) still has a zinc mechanism inside, so even if the outside doesn’t melt, the inside will.
Zinc poisoning is not good - adequate ventilation is essential. Visually, a very nice exploit.
But you can still shoot it with a rifle right?
I have a belt buckle that's a master lock that was shot with a rifle that was a gift from when I managed a locksmith shop in the early 90s.
I must admit I don't think it would have occurred to me to try to melt a lock so kudos.
I’d rather shoot it with something bigger and slower... 1oz slug from a shotgun, and you’d have trouble finding the pieces.
I watched a video of them shooting locks and they had to shoot several before they got one that stayed locked. If memory serves about 3 or 4 out of ten stayed locked, the rest failed. I see it as an advertising gimmick like proving how sharp a blade is by splitting a bullet that's fired at it. A butter knife will do that so as I said, gimmick.
Nice, I figured about 2 minutes to get in.
I think we should all organize and agitate for pewter locks.
😂
I have a 175 no other codes anywhere. That i can't even get soda can metal between reel and body. Help?
Good job!! Happy wife=Happy life!!
So very true. 👍
Come on over boys, the wife's out of town! Let's do something stupid!
Damn the rubber seem to last longer to melt than the thin metal shell. Master lock would be better off making their shitty locks out of rubber instead. Thanks for the video.
Bill Randolph that could work, a silicone overmould would increase the time to failure considerably.
Or they could make them out of proper steel, not shitty monkey metal, just sayin’,
How about the butane style jet lighters?
Temp is high enough, but I doubt they would deliver the BTUs faster than the lock would dissipate them.
Grat video brother and thanks for sharing it with us
How embarrassing for Master Lock!
tough under fire...I think not!
what would you recommend to replace the 875/175 locks? needs to be a combo lock
zink is such a crappy material for a lock. it's quite brittle too, wonder how long it would take you just hitting the thing with a hammer. or an axe! :D
Change my pitch up! Smell my garage up!
I thought he was the LockPickingLawyer, not the LockMeltingLawyer
speechless
Yum; smells like metal fume fever.
:D
that's an annealing flame, not cutting
what pick set do you use?
Fire
He already has a video on that exact topic
redgrittybrick welldone tellin me he has it and not tellin me which number the vid is
I don’t use a set... my case has tools from many different companies.
TheGreyGap I don't memorise the URLs and I thought you were probably interested enough and smart enough to use the search box yourself without me holding your hand or doing it for you. Sorry - that was very bad of me ;-)
No lock should contain zinc.. that's just poor design.
Not a fan of zinc body padlocks - OR - Master Lock... Like it matters... Either way, pure junk. It's all deceptive marketing... Maybe we should melt a Smart Key cylinder. 😁
Not a bad idea... not in a door, but they have the padlock version. 😈
Great video Stephen good work! 👍🏼
Stephen?
LockPickingLawyer thought your name was Stephen because I watched a video of bills where you sent him a reese brand trailer hitch lock but it was before you started UA-cam then a bit after he did masterlocks version and said remember the reese version that lpl sent me. Sorry buddy you must think Ime a real weirdo by now 😂😂😂
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great
I counted only 58 seconds from the time the flame touched the lock and I was counting a bit fast but sub 2 minutes is pitiful for something I can get from the local DIY shop (the torch I mean)
Very cool my friend nice job😊😊👍😎👍👍
did you hate masterlock so much because it always so easy to bypass and then you deciding to burn it...?
you could have sold it instead destroy. Gas wasted for nothing.
irwin6 IP but then there would be no fun video...
Fun to watch but obviously not practical at all.
🍎 📷 👌 太好了。 谢谢
Master Lock Take Notes !
Oh great now I can break into my neighbors garage
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